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Old September 20th, 2019 #21
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I agree....our media is controlled one hundred per cent.

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Old September 20th, 2019 #22
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. . . The English police-force was held up high . .

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I'm guessing you've not read the books then?

Doyle was at times contemptuous of the police, even going so far as to work a couple of cold cases in real life, to have verdicts overturned.

The primary officer used in his writings, Lestrade, was credited as Scotland Yards finest, but was almost always reliant on the amateur Holmes to get results for him.
 
Old September 21st, 2019 #23
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I'm guessing you've not read the books then?

Doyle was at times contemptuous of the police, even going so far as to work a couple of cold cases in real life, to have verdicts overturned.

The primary officer used in his writings, Lestrade, was credited as Scotland Yards finest, but was almost always reliant on the amateur Holmes to get results for him.
Holmes was a 'state-servant' . .
 
Old September 21st, 2019 #24
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Holmes was a 'state-servant' . .
Holmes, like his creator, Doyle, was a Liberal unionist, & the early stories were predominately set under Conservative governments.

Holmes respected the idea of the state, but was contemptuous of the government.

You should really read the books, not because they are particularly good, they're actually quite dated, in a lot of aspects now, but because it might give you an idea of the subject you're posting about.
 
Old September 21st, 2019 #25
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Holmes, like his creator, Doyle, was a Liberal unionist, & the early stories were predominately set under Conservative governments.

Holmes respected the idea of the state, but was contemptuous of the government.

You should really read the books, not because they are particularly good, they're actually quite dated, in a lot of aspects now, but because it might give you an idea of the subject you're posting about.
. . the fact is that he was in service of the British government . . As far as I know even the consultant of the London police . .

He fought 'criminals' . .

I've already said in post No. 1 that the societal shift especially in old England was harsh.

Make no mistake about it . . A detective is even higher in rank than a copper.

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Furthermore . . it is proven that Arthur Conan Doyle was a freemason . . The freemasons were the 'snobs' , the 'bourgeois' of old . .

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On a side note . . since we have already discussed the fictitous character of 'Holmes' . .

. . concerning 'the Batman' . . Bruce Wayne in the Batman-stories is characterized as an "extravagant millionaire in good relations with Gotham City officials , some politicians and even bankers" . . If that isn't an allusion to the life of a freemason then I don't know what is . .
 
Old September 25th, 2019 #26
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I agree....our media is controlled one hundred per cent.
. . it's more than obvious . .
 
Old September 25th, 2019 #27
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Make no mistake about it . . A detective is even higher in rank than a copper.

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A "private" detective holds no rank.

You really haven't read the books, have you?
 
Old September 25th, 2019 #28
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A "private" detective holds no rank.

You really haven't read the books, have you?
. . sorry but . .what does me having or not having read the books have to do with the fact that "Holmes" was a law-enforcer ?

For the record , I haven't read the books yet everyone is familiar with Sherlock Holmes . .

I also do not watch copper-series . .


It's all a game by the NWO . .





 
Old September 25th, 2019 #29
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. . sorry but . .what does me having or not having read the books have to do with the fact that "Holmes" was a law-enforcer ?
In simple terms it means you haven't got the first clue about what you are talking about, hence you talking inaccurate nonsense most of the time.

Had you read the books you would know, for example, he wasn't a law enforcer.

Read, learn, educate yourself & THEN talk.

That's the correct order.
 
Old September 25th, 2019 #30
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In simple terms it means you haven't got the first clue about what you are talking about, hence you talking inaccurate nonsense most of the time.

Had you read the books you would know, for example, he wasn't a law enforcer.

Read, learn, educate yourself & THEN talk.

That's the correct order.
. . so you mean to tell me a detective isn't a law enforcer . .?

. .it would appear to me you like the books too much to admit that the whole NWO-game of always heroising police-force started with him . .

. . I also have the suspicion that may be the reason why you start to stick to ad hominem attacks ( "you are talking nonsense" . . "you aren't educated" et al) because you might fear you cannot win this argument . .
 
Old September 25th, 2019 #31
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. . so you mean to tell me a detective isn't a law enforcer . .?
Some are, some aren't.

But you'd know that if you stopped playing games & got educated.

I have no patience for ignorant, uneducated role players.

You might get you rocks off playing games on the internet, but I'm a LOT more serious than that.
 
Old September 25th, 2019 #32
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Some are, some aren't.

But you'd know that if you stopped playing games & got educated.

I have no patience for ignorant, uneducated role players.

You might get you rocks off playing games on the internet, but I'm a LOT more serious than that.
. . why should detectives NOT be law-enforcers ?

"some are . . some aren't" ?

lol . .

And . . you confirmed my suspicion about you sticking to ad hominem . . thank you . . .

. . I backed up every claim in this thread ..

.. and if you claim "Holmes" whom people hired to "solve cases" , who , in the novels , got people into prison , to the gallows, WASN'T a law-enforcer .... wow.

Hope you didn't find this (((too uneducated))), my if-I-can't-win-I'm-going-ad-hominem friend . .

Thank you . . on my side this exchange is over.
 
Old September 25th, 2019 #33
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.. and if you claim "Holmes" whom people hired to "solve cases" , who , in the novels , got people into prison , to the gallows, WASN'T a law-enforcer .... wow
This is how I KNOW you are not serious & just playing games on the internet.

IF you'd read the books you'd KNOW you were talking nonsense & having seen more posts from you than anyone else on this forum (mainly because you post quite prolifically), without yet finding one that isn't riddled with nonsense & that isn't factually inaccurate, it shows to me you're more interested in talking crap & getting attention than actually being serious, or productive.

That shows me you are redundant & that your father would have served the world better by wearing a prophylactic sheath during intercourse.

The fact you are still trying to bluff your way through this & to redeem yourself with spurious arguments, despite us already establishing you have no knowledge of facts of the subject just confirms that theory further.

Maybe you are what this forum wants, maybe the owner likes attention seeking, role playing morons, but you are not what the future of this planet needs.

You're a joke & it doesn't take long to see through you.
 
Old September 25th, 2019 #34
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ad hominem . . .
ad hominem . .

ad hominen . . .
Man . . I really must have pissed you and you really must feel butt-hurt for confirming the old phrase "If you can't win an argument , go ad hominem" tenfold . .

Feel seen-through . .?

. .that's why you make up bullshit concerning me . . .

I won't respond any further , just , without words , enjoy the fool you're making out of yourself , my 'can't-win-an-argument-go-ad-hominem'-friend
 
Old September 25th, 2019 #35
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Thank you . . on my side this exchange is over.
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I won't respond any further ,
BTW an ad hominem, typically refers to a fallacious argumentative strategy whereby genuine discussion of the topic at hand is avoided by instead attacking the character, motive, or other attribute of the person making the argument, or persons associated with the argument, rather than attacking the substance of the argument itself.

What I've done is not an ad hominem as I've proven your argument to be groundless & spurious, as well as proving you are an idiot playing games on the internet.



Educate yourself & you'd know that, but once again you've shown no interest in furthering yourself, just proving you're a joke.
 
Old September 25th, 2019 #36
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BTW an ad hominem, typically refers to . . .
. . I do not need pseudo-explanations from a poser like you . .

. . or does that argument reek of guilt . .?

Feeling guilty that you think you're forced to spew nonsense about what an ad hominem actually is . .?

Actually I 'm surprised you know enough latin to even understand 'ad hominem' . .

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. . a fallacious argumentative strategy whereby genuine discussion of the topic at hand is avoided by instead attacking the character, motive, or other attribute of the person making the argument, or persons associated with the argument . .
. . exactly what you did . . Idiot . .

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. . rather than attacking the substance of the argument itself.

What I've done is not an ad hominem as I've proven your argument to be groundless & spurious, as well as proving you are an idiot playing games on the internet.



Educate yourself & you'd know that, but once again you've shown no interest in furthering yourself, just proving you're a joke.
Ad hominem , ad hominem . .

All you can do . .

And , if I may say so . . stop disturbing a thread about state-oppression with your totally irrelevant garbage about a single person I mentioned: Sherlock Holmes.

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Oh . . and in case you're wondering why I still even respond to a cheap flamer-loser like you . .

I was hoping I could merely laugh at your stupidity . . But some things need to be cleared up before I put your flaming-loser ass in its place . . Or before your flaming ass is banned . .
 
Old September 25th, 2019 #37
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I thought you said?

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Thank you . . on my side this exchange is over.
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I won't respond any further ,
Struggle with the truth, don't you?


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. . I do not need pseudo-explanations from a poser like you . .
A) It's not a pseudo-explanation, it's an actual definition

B) You've resorted to ad hominem, & what was it you said?

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'can't-win-an-argument-go-ad-hominem'-friend
You're a fake & a fraud & you've been exposed.

You're worthless, redundant, you have no future, you're either cattle to the "New world order", or obsolete to the alternative.

You're an extinct bloodline waiting to happen.

Now I'm sure you'll come back once again & try & bluff again, but it's to late, I've got your number.
 
Old September 25th, 2019 #38
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Talking Man , I love these internet-toughguys . .




. .

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I thought . .
. . why do you do something which apparently is so hard to you to begin with . . . ? !
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. . you said . .
I didn't think your arguments would be THAT stupid

. . you constantly provoke me to flame your sassy ass
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Struggle with the truth, don't you?
. . nope . . I'm struggling with AN IDIOT ( you )

Let's see what idiocy you brought this time

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A) It's not a pseudo-explanation, it's an actual definition
. . you are an idiot by defintion

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B) You've resorted to ad hominem, & what was it you said?
Again , how come a mental midget like you even knows that word ?

. . do you have an Oxford-dictionary window open . .?

Oh . . and you STARTED . .

But if you want to play that . . don't think I cannot fight fire with fire . .

Especially against a loser like you . .

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You're a fake & a fraud & you've been exposed.

You're worthless, redundant, you have no future, you're either cattle to the "New world order", or obsolete to the alternative.

You're an extinct bloodline waiting to happen.

Now I'm sure you'll come back once again & try & bluff again, but it's to late, I've got your number.
I'm amused how desperate you get

. . oh and I see at the time I'm writing this you also trolled my "fav. cartoon characters"-thread with mindless accusations . .

That's how it is with pieces of shit . . they keep hanging on your ass
 
Old September 25th, 2019 #39
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More irrelevant ad hominems?

Was that your last last word or will you be back to embarrass yourself further?

You're a fake
 
Old September 26th, 2019 #40
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More irrelevant ad hominems?
. . and this from you . .

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Was that your last last word or will you be back to embarrass yourself further?
Nope . . I'll be back to embarass YOU . .

Oh wait . . you already do that yourself

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You're a fake
I am as real as you are a thread-disturbing , unproductive flamer . . which is MUCH
 
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