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Old August 30th, 2013 #241
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Cut through the bullshit: no one cares what the NYT of any of these clowns have to say. The opportunities are real. If you need a job? Go up there where the good ones are and grab one. This media blather will blow over in days. No one can do shit about whites buying up land and property in Leith or anywhere else. All this other extraneous blather is IRRELEVANT.
 
Old August 30th, 2013 #242
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You're wasting your time trying to reason with that self-confessed coward. He doesn't base his comments on whether or not he agrees with your points of view, but solely on whether or not he likes you.
Untrue. I don't like you but I agree with your politics. We differ on tactics. Mainly, what century we're in. That's the cross I bear.

I do like Alex and some others, but I also disagree with them at times, as I'm sure they do me.

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You can never know when he's being honest, so it's best to ignore him, unless you enjoy BS'ing in circles, void of objectivity. Examples: Fred O'Malley and Craig Cobb, to name just two examples of his soccer-momming.
That's quite a pair, I'll give you that.
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Old August 30th, 2013 #243
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Cut through the bullshit: no one cares what the NYT of any of these clowns have to say. The opportunities are real. If you need a job? Go up there where the good ones are and grab one. This media blather will blow over in days. No one can do shit about whites buying up land and property in Leith or anywhere else. All this other extraneous blather is IRRELEVANT.
Exactly. The same approach can be applied anywhere, and has proved effective throughout time.

Keep your nose clean, be smart and get out there (where ever your "there" is) and fucking take it.
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Old August 30th, 2013 #244
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Hey Serbian, now here's a selfless and highly objective WN. Even though he's presently on the outs with Craig, he nevertheless not only sing's Craig's praises for WN jobs well done, he even gives out free contact information to those wanting to send money to Craig. Alex always asks, "is it or he, good for our Cause?"

See the difference ??
I'm following Rounder's example. See? Even when I disparage the South, if I find someone doing something right, I COPY IT. If I find someone with a better argument than mine, I BORROW IT. And like Mr. Hand, and unlike MLK, I see that they get FULL CREDIT.

Craig and I had a talk this morning. We talked about Donnie and other things. We disagree on the nature of proof and evidence. There is no reconciling our views in this regard. No evidence has been established that Donnie is Mark Pitcavage or any other anti. Craig's proof is:

Donnie registered as Hibernian (whether this is true, I don't know) originally, and Craig thinks in relation to our abortive White Freedom Party, Craig thinks with the intention of collecting names and addresses, saying he wanted to participate. I told Craig Donnie has faithfully made high quality posts on VNN for years, and helped with our funds drives (even initiating them when I wasn't doing so regularly), and contributing to our paper too. Craig thinks because of Donnie's being in Ohio, and or having some email address, that proves he's Pitcavage, and James Bowery's math proves this. I said the assumptions are wrong, so the math is irrelevant, and Bowery is simply humoring you. Craig resents Donnie's mocking him for, one winter, living in a hole. I agree that I don't like this either, although it is not against VNN rules. Sometimes I sense some embourgeoisement in Donnie. Trying to use the old 'respectability' fears to push WN away from radicalism. Then again, I can't complain if he's using facts Craig himself brought up to defend himself when he's attacked by same irrationally and without evidence.

My only personal concern re Donnie is his continued mocking of those who can see the WTC buildings were not destroyed as the Official Conspiracy Theory claims they were.

Oh wait. I forgot one thing. I told Craig I would ask Donnie straight up if he were Mark Pitcavage. So, Donnie, are you? I would appreciate a direct, one-world answer, yes or no.

Anyway, this is where it stands. I won't let Craig back because it will lead to the same problems. Donnie has not broken the rules. Craig, whether he gets it or not, does not agree with my rules, and will continually break them, operating on the rules he thinks the forum should be run by. I won't have that. We have reached a good place here, with only one known paranoid among us, and that being a non-white and non-troublemaking one (kathsung).

As I respect Craig's efforts and moxie, I will do what I can to help him while staying true to VNN's rules and vision.

The bottom line here is:

GREAT OPPORTUNITIES IN NORTH DAKOTA FOR WHITE MEN AND WOMEN.

Craig will help you explore them.

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Old August 30th, 2013 #245
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Oh my, what a charming couple. She loves him dearly, it's plain to see.

Wait'll he spends all her money, or turns 62 and starts drawing his OWN social security check. Assuming of course, he doesn't slit her creepy cracker throat first, after watching a Mississippi Burning re-run, stoned on crack.

Oh, glory day.


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Old August 30th, 2013 #246
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One wonders what the old nigger was doing before he met the old mudshark?
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Old August 30th, 2013 #247
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Man, what I wouldn't give to be 16 and in high school and reading this shit... It is a COMPLETELY different world today than when I was young.

If you are young - get in touch with Cobb. Get the fuck up there, make a boatload of money, retire by 30. Buy houses outright...support white politics. Don't waste your time with "college" that leads nowhere but dead.

This is an INCREDIBLE OPPORTUNITY for anyone who is YOUNG, STRONG and UNSKILLED.
Yeah, me too. BUT....

What's needed is more specific, concrete and updated information on the job opportunities. White racialist groups should be beating each other's brains out providing this info to any young men who might read their sites. Anyone can research via internet but it would seem much more plausible and realistic coming from people who are up there and know about it firsthand (I don't mean Cobb. He's alone and has already contributed significantly. Where are the Gaede-types who're allegedly trying to sell PLEs?).

If you want to populate the area with white people like yourselves you'll overlook the fact that young men don't seem to be the pioneers you were, or thought of yourselves as, at that age, and do what you can to lead them.
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If someone else can get the EXTRA pics, please post them. My "10 free articles" have run out so I can't get them.
Have you tried signing up with another throw-a-way email address and deleting your cookies? That often works.
 
Old August 30th, 2013 #249
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Yeah, me too. BUT....

What's needed is more specific, concrete and updated information on the job opportunities. White racialist groups should be beating each other's brains out providing this info to any young men who might read their sites. Anyone can research via internet but it would seem much more plausible and realistic coming from people who are up there and know about it firsthand (I don't mean Cobb. He's alone and has already contributed significantly. Where are the Gaede-types who're allegedly trying to sell PLEs?).

If you want to populate the area with white people like yourselves you'll overlook the fact that young men don't seem to be the pioneers you were, or thought of yourselves as, at that age, and do what you can to lead them.
Craig knows the details. I don't. Basically, you just need to get up there. How much hand-holding do people need?

It's like Pierce said: whites today don't have any initiative.
 
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My only personal concern re Donnie is his continued mocking of those who can see the WTC buildings were not destroyed as the Official Conspiracy Theory claims they were.
Well, I'm not going to say I see something that isn't there to get along with people, Alex. I have zero interest in 9/11 theories. I don't bring the subject up.

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Oh wait. I forgot one thing. I told Craig I would ask Donnie straight up if he were Mark Pitcavage. So, Donnie, are you? I would appreciate a direct, one-world answer, yes or no.
No.

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Anyway, this is where it stands. I won't let Craig back because it will lead to the same problems. Donnie has not broken the rules. Craig, whether he gets it or not, does not agree with my rules, and will continually break them, operating on the rules he thinks the forum should be run by. I won't have that. We have reached a good place here, with only one known paranoid among us, and that being a non-white and non-troublemaking one (kathsung).
I never will break the rules. I have self-control.

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As I respect Craig's efforts and moxie, I will do what I can to help him while staying true to VNN's rules and vision.
Insha'Allah. And yeah, I had to look up embourgeoisement.
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Have you tried signing up with another throw-a-way email address and deleting your cookies? That often works.
I don't care that much, and someone else already posted them.
 
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Well, I'm not going to say I see something that isn't there to get along with people, Alex. I have zero interest in 9/11 theories. I don't bring the subject up.
I don't expect that. I'm just saying, it does change my view of you. And others. Because I consider it that obvious the planes alone did not bring down the buildings.

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No.
Ok, I greatly appreciate this answer. And I accept it. I have conveyed it to Craig. I doubt he will accept it, but that's as far as we can go. I have no reason to believe you are not who you claim to be: an ex-marine, ex-Klansman, living in Ohio, if I'm not mistaken. I can't remember if you were ever a member of NA, I don't think so.

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I never will break the rules. I have self-control.
And I appreciate that.
 
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Old August 30th, 2013 #254
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Well, I'm not going to say I see something that isn't there to get along with people...
It looks to me like this is exactly what you're doing, Donnie.

Your position implies that you see a viable cause for the collapse of the Solomon Building.

Many of us do not.

On matters more appropriate to your skill set, what message is Sherrill tying to communicate to Bobby Baboon in this photo?


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Old August 30th, 2013 #255
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Alex is right about the nugget in all this: If you are White, young, hungry and unskilled, go to the Bakken near Williston, North Dakota. Or to the Williamsport, Pa area in the Marcellus. These are latter-day boomtowns. Live frugally (ie, White) and you can squirrel away hundreds of thousands of dollars in a relatively short number of years. And you'll gain real skills in a short amount of time. Contrast that with the gigantic waste which is college judeo-miseducation, where you come out indebted, unskilled and even stupider. It's a no-brainer to head to the shale fields. Do it.

You don't have to live like Cobb. I think he's nuts, but he's also a valuable resource on this, and he is unjustly persecuted. In fact, I'd advise 13ers not to be involved publicly in any sort of Nazism, nor to be confrontational in any way to people's Christian beliefs. Stuff like that can only be used against you when you're out on your own, and the locals are in no way hindering you otherwise. So from a practical standpoint, it's a low upside, deep downside play. The locals are your people, so treat them that way. You're not perfect either. And they were there first.

If you don't want to contact Cobb directly, here is the thread where he described his experiences and what a young person would need to get going:

http://vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=130890 .

We owe Cobb a debt of thanks for this, at least.

There aren't many opportunities like this over the decades, and again, it's a hell of a better deal than judeo-college, which leaves you poorer and stupider for your trouble, and where you're relegated to competing (at a legal disadvantage due to judeo-employment laws that hamstring Whites in their own country) with equally credentialed semi-humans for low-paying junk jobs upon your ejaculation, I mean graduation.
 
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what message is Sherrill tying to communicate to Bobby Baboon in this photo?
"Don't worry, Bobby, you'll soon be White. Remember how Jewsus turned that water to wine?"

 
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We owe Cobb a debt of thanks for this, at least.
Ditto that. Drawing a line in the sand and kicking some of it into the face of the New York Times deserves some well-earned recognition.
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I don't expect that. I'm just saying, it does change my view of you. And others. Because I consider it that obvious the planes alone did not bring down the buildings.
It changed my view of you as well, Alex. So I know exactly where you're coming from, man. I don't bring it (9/11) up, and rest assured I won't start doing so.

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Ok, I greatly appreciate this answer. And I accept it. I have conveyed it to Craig. I doubt he will accept it, but that's as far as we can go.
He's not posting here, so that's plenty far for me. I do regret making light of Cobb's tenure in Montana, I did take some cheap shots, which I normally don't do. I'm a lover, not a fighter. I now publically apologize to him for those, and I consider the matter between us settled, at least on my end.

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I have no reason to believe you are not who you claim to be: an ex-marine, ex-Klansman, living in Ohio, if I'm not mistaken. I can't remember if you were ever a member of NA, I don't think so.
I've been a lot of things.

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You're most welcome. Hey, you gotta have at least a few rules or it's chaos.
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Assuming of course, he doesn't slit her creepy cracker throat first, after watching a Mississippi Burning re-run, stoned on crack.

Oh, glory day.
You've a very wicked sense of humor, Rounder
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Craig knows the details. I don't. Basically, you just need to get up there. How much hand-holding do people need?

It's like Pierce said: whites today don't have any initiative.
Apparently, it's only older people like you and I who're interested. I'm 10 years older than you, btw. Like it or not, if you want to energize young whites to do something like this you ought to be willing to hold their hands in getting them as much firsthand info as possible.

What the possibly interested young white man sees is tons of encouragement to "do this" and very little else. All he knows is that it is a very remote area about which he knows nothing.
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