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Old January 7th, 2020 #1
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Top House Democrats’ plans to push a measure limiting the Trump administration’s war-making powers are in flux following an Iranian missile attack Tuesday on U.S. bases inside Iraq.

The real prospect of rapidly intensifying conflict with Iran complicates the Democrats’ plan to repudiate President Donald Trump for a deadly drone attack on Iranian military leader Qassem Soleimani last week without notifying Congress. House Democrats say they are likely to pause, if not abandon, their plans for a war powers resolution.

“This discussion started Sunday night. It's now 48 hours, or less than 48 hours since,” House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer (D-Md.) said Tuesday night. “This is something that we have to consider seriously and thoughtfully and correctly and we're going to do that.”

“We need to figure out what’s going on,” added Rep. Barbara Lee (D-Calif.), one of the nation’s most prominent anti-war Democrats, when asked about plans for a war powers vote this week.

“I think everyone expected some unfortunate retaliation,” Lee said of Tuesday’s Iranian attacks. “It’s a spiral now, that unfortunately might get out of control. That’s what we don’t want to see.”

Speaker Nancy Pelosi announced late Sunday that the House would vote this week on a war powers resolution that would restrain Trump’s military powers and effectively halt the mounting crisis in Iran.

The measure, led by Rep. Elissa Slotkin (D-Mich.), is intended to force Republicans to go on record backing Trump’s provocative attack that killed the senior Iranian commander, though it was expected to gain few, if any, Republican supporters.

But even before Tuesday night’s counter-attack by the Iranians, Democrats had been struggling to agree on exactly what that resolution would look like. The vote had been expected this week, but it had not been formally scheduled.

In a private meeting, some Democrats pushed to add a measure from Rep. Ro Khanna (D-Calif.) that would defund any U.S. military action against Iran without first receiving congressional approval to a broader measure.

Khanna’s bill is essentially identical to a provision included in the House’s annual defense authorization bill over the summer. More than two dozen Republicans broke ranks to support Khanna’s amendment, but the language was eventually stripped out in final negotiations with the Senate last month.

“They’re trying to figure out how to get it where it has the best chance with the Senate, to get the 51 Senate votes, and how to draft it in that way,” Khanna said Tuesday night.

Moderate Democrats had their own reservations about the whole exercise, and are unwilling to draft a resolution that would hamstring the military in its response to future attacks. They’re also hesitant to support any language that would directly repudiate Trump for the Soleimani killing.

Some progressives, meanwhile, were looking to go even further. Two lawmakers, Lee and Rep. Ilhan Omar (D-Minn.), had been pushing their own version of a war powers resolution over the weekend, before Pelosi announced the House would vote on Slotkin’s measure, according to multiple people familiar with the conversations.

Omar, however, has become a lightning rod within the Democratic caucus, and a number of her colleagues were privately concerned about her taking on a high-profile role on the resolution.

“There are obviously a lot of opinions,” Hoyer said when asked about the vote, before reports of the Iran-led attack surfaced. “In fairness to members, we want them to have the opportunity to see what’s issued.”

Leaders in both parties have been desperate for answers about the Soleimani attack, as even the Pentagon has struggled to explain its next steps.
The so-called "Gang of Eight" — the four House and Senate leaders plus top Republicans and Democrats on the House and Senate Intelligence panels — received their first briefing Tuesday afternoon about last week's U.S. strike on Soleimani.

House lawmakers will receive a top-secret briefing on Wednesday with the same group of senior administration officials including Secretary of State Mike Pompeo; Defense Secretary Mark Esper; Gen. Mark Milley, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff; CIA Director Gina Haspel; and acting Director of National Intelligence Joseph Maguire. That group is also expected to brief the Senate.

“I actually would say that the people were more concerned about the war today — or that there not be,” Rep. Debbie Dingell (D-Mich.) said when asked for details on Pelosi’s impeachment plans.

“Everybody cares about what she’s doing [on impeachment]. We’ve done our job ... but we’re all very concerned about protecting the military, protecting our national security.”
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...cid=spartanntp

Now, Drumpf is just waiting for orders from (((his masters))) as to what his next step will be.
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Old January 7th, 2020 #2
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Looks like Iran didn't cuck after all.
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Old January 8th, 2020 #3
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Iran Strikes Back with Missile Strikes at US Bases in Iraq – No Casualties

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The Iranians shot back and in the process killed no one, the Kwazog should just leave it at that and fuck off!
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Iranian kebabs killed each other trying to bury the terrorist Soleymani

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Mourners are crushed in city of Kerman during procession for general killed by US drone strike
State media said 56 people had been killed and 213 injured.
Full report: dozens dead in crush at Suleimani procession

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Old January 8th, 2020 #5
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Iranian kebabs killed each other trying to bury the terrorist Soleymani
He wasn't a terrorist, you Zionist shithead.
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Old January 8th, 2020 #6
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He wasn't a terrorist, you Zionist shithead.
Of course, he was a such peaceful boy. Allahu Akbar! (c)
 
Old January 8th, 2020 #7
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The Iranians are playing it smart. They had to show some sign of military force to satisfy their people in the streets, but they only staged a symbolic attack with no American casualties which would have invited US escalation. Tit-for-tat attacks with ever increasing destruction wouldn't be in Tehran's favor - it's a game Tehran would surely lose.

The long game is the isolation and weakening of US influence in the Middle East, including Iraq, where they have already demanded the complete and immediate withdrawal of American forces.

The assassinations of both Iranian and Iraqi leaders have brought squabbling Iranians and Iraqis closer together. The Middle East is now much more united against the US presence than they were just a week ago.
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Old January 8th, 2020 #8
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The Iranians aren't stupid. Neocon boomers assume the Iranians are as crazy and nutty as US backed Sunni terrorists, and jew controlled media, and Rasen, push the narrative that they're both the same.

Iran had to do something, they were forced to. And what they did was a very measured response, without looking too weak. If they wanted to, they could claim they killed 300 Zionists in the missile attacks, and the rank and file in Iran will believe it. And then the USA will look weak from an Iranian perspective.

You can be be sure of one thing, Iran isn't gonna stop killing US troops through proxies, and they'll continue fighting against Zionism on the geopolitical stage.

Iraq is a lost cause for the USA. And it's a lost cause in part because Iran got involved to thwart their plans. The Iraqi government has gotten closer to Iran, and more distant from the USA. And killing Sulemani was not a popular decision with the Iraqi government. All the USA did was put another nail in their coffin in Iraq.

So, at the end of the day, -1 for Zionist hegemony in Iraq, and +1 for Iranian interests in Iraq.
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Old January 8th, 2020 #9
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Of course, he was a such peaceful boy. Allahu Akbar! (c)
You like Fox News, yes?
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Old January 8th, 2020 #10
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The Iranian missile strike destroyed several buildings/structures at Ain Al Assad Airbase. @planetlabs has images from this morning that @DaveSchmerler analyzed.


https://twitter.com/ArmsControlWonk/...36098679480320
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Old January 9th, 2020 #11
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The Iranians aren't stupid. Neocon boomers assume the Iranians are as crazy and nutty as US backed Sunni terrorists, and jew controlled media, and Rasen, push the narrative that they're both the same.

Iran had to do something, they were forced to. And what they did was a very measured response, without looking too weak. If they wanted to, they could claim they killed 300 Zionists in the missile attacks, and the rank and file in Iran will believe it. And then the USA will look weak from an Iranian perspective.

You can be be sure of one thing, Iran isn't gonna stop killing US troops through proxies, and they'll continue fighting against Zionism on the geopolitical stage.

Iraq is a lost cause for the USA. And it's a lost cause in part because Iran got involved to thwart their plans. The Iraqi government has gotten closer to Iran, and more distant from the USA. And killing Sulemani was not a popular decision with the Iraqi government. All the USA did was put another nail in their coffin in Iraq.

So, at the end of the day, -1 for Zionist hegemony in Iraq, and +1 for Iranian interests in Iraq.
As an Iranian myself, I back nobody here. Neither Iran or America. The regime retaliated to satisfy their angry population. They are corrupt scumbags who care about nothing other than money. If you visit Iran you will see people's frustration. The Jews are taking advantage of the crappy regime. The people in Iran need to wake up and see that their country has been turned into a shithole because of the Jews and Islamists.
 
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As an Iranian myself, I back nobody here. Neither Iran or America. The regime retaliated to satisfy their angry population. They are corrupt scumbags who care about nothing other than money. If you visit Iran you will see people's frustration. The Jews are taking advantage of the crappy regime. The people in Iran need to wake up and see that their country has been turned into a shithole because of the Jews and Islamists.
What's your ideal alternative for Iran?

Iran is front and center for one of the largest geopolitical conflicts in the world, where every major power seems to have a stake in what happens there. Considering this, it would be nearly impossible for Iranians to assert themselves without cooperating with one or more of the major powers involved, none of which give a damn about your people. So, you might have to ride this out, and take your pick from the lesser of evils for the time being. Siding with the Russians is the smartest of the choices you have.

As far as jews are concerned, I fully support your people (or anyone else) in sanitizing your Nation of these vermin.
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Now, Drumpf is just waiting for orders from (((his masters))) as to what his next step will be.
Usually like their golums blowing stuff up on the shabbat, for some reason.
 
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Iranian Foreign Minister Mohammad Javad Zarif on Thursday told the United Nations Security Council that one "unhinged" regime is frantically clamoring to turn back time and explicitly pointed the finger at the United States in his speech.

Zarif, whose visa was denied by the United States which made him impossible to attend in person the Security Council ministerial-level open debate on the topic of "Maintenance of international peace and security upholding the UN Charter," told the meeting, through the delivering of Iran's Permanent Representative to the United Nations Majid Takht Ravanchi, that "the world is at a crossroads: with the end of monopolies on power, one unhinged regime is frantically clamoring to turn back time."

"This has meant more damaging American unilateralism in defiance of international norms and law, most recently a dastardly targeted assassination of the heroes who were the nightmare of groups such as ISIS," said Zarif.

"Since the regime's inauguration, more and more threats and attacks against the people of Iran and other sovereign nations in utter disregard of the Charter. It now even seeks to emulate the war crimes of Daesh (also known as ISIL, Islamic State, or ISIS), menacing the cultural heritage of the millennia-old civilization of Iran," said Zarif.

"Our January 8th, action against an air base in Iraq from which the cowardly armed attack against martyr (Qassem) Soleimani was launched, was a measured and proportionate response to a terrorist attack, in the exercise of our inherent right to self-defense in accordance with Article 51 of the Charter," he said.

"This rogue U.S. regime has withdrawn from several landmark accords, including the Paris Agreement, the INF Treaty, and not least, the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA). That, in an open affront to this very Council, has involved unprecedented and unlawful U.S. punishment of anyone who attempts to comply with Resolution 2231, which unequivocally endorses the JCPOA," said the Iranian top diplomat.

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What's your ideal alternative for Iran?

Iran is front and center for one of the largest geopolitical conflicts in the world, where every major power seems to have a stake in what happens there. Considering this, it would be nearly impossible for Iranians to assert themselves without cooperating with one or more of the major powers involved, none of which give a damn about your people. So, you might have to ride this out, and take your pick from the lesser of evils for the time being. Siding with the Russians is the smartest of the choices you have.

As far as jews are concerned, I fully support your people (or anyone else) in sanitizing your Nation of these vermin.
Yes, I agree with you here. Because the more I think, the more I realise just how bad these creatures are. We persians free the Jews from Babylon, and what happened? - they corrupted our religion of zoroastrianism, which manifested in the arrival of Islam. In the west the Jews are destroying Europe, with bringing in Negroes from Africa and teaching children about homosexuality and drag queens. I actually don't mind Russia, they don't have drag queens (unlike America) and they are not accepting of blacks. If anything Russia is the best place to be right now. But obviously we have to free our own lands one way or another.

I personally am prepared to do anything for the Jews to be eradicated from the face of the Earth.
 
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Aryanlord, I believe Iran's path to greatness lies not in eradicating Jews from the face of the Earth, but in eradicating the foreign semitism of Islam from your nation and embracing your Aryan heritage (same thing for us here in the West - we need to re-discover our Aryan heritage in the face of our imminent destruction under Christianity).

A re-born Aryan Iran encompasses homelands for all the Iranian peoples, including Kurds in the west, Pashtuns and Baloch people in the east, and Tajiks in the North; a realm encompassing eastern Turkey, portions of Syria and Iraq, and Afghanistan and Tajikistan, as well as western Pakistan, rivalling in size the empires of old.

I see Aryan revolutions happening throughout Eurasia, with a reinvigorated Europe and Russia taking part as well, rediscovering our roots and regaining a sense of ourselves.
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Is it Fox News who made Soleimani a muslim?
 
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Is it Fox News who made Soleimani a muslim?
Why do you care that he was a Muslim?

Solemani did nothing wrong.
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Aryanlord, I believe Iran's path to greatness lies not in eradicating Jews from the face of the Earth, but in eradicating the foreign semitism of Islam from your nation and embracing your Aryan heritage (same thing for us here in the West - we need to re-discover our Aryan heritage in the face of our imminent destruction under Christianity).

A re-born Aryan Iran encompasses homelands for all the Iranian peoples, including Kurds in the west, Pashtuns and Baloch people in the east, and Tajiks in the North; a realm encompassing eastern Turkey, portions of Syria and Iraq, and Afghanistan and Tajikistan, as well as western Pakistan, rivalling in size the empires of old.

I see Aryan revolutions happening throughout Eurasia, with a reinvigorated Europe and Russia taking part as well, rediscovering our roots and regaining a sense of ourselves.
Yes, I agree with you, but ultimately the Jews seek to destroy the Aryan race. They have flooded Europe with Syrian refugees, African immigrants and are silencing people by reminding them that if they speak out they are racist.

In Iran a similar thing is happening, persians only make up about 60% of the Iranian population. The persian history is being destroyed and replaced with islamic history. I was shocked to learn that pre-Islamic history is not taught in Iran. Yes, we need to get rid of Islam, but I blame the Jews for the current situation.

Also, I would give you a 'thumbs up', however I cant seem to find the button... maybe because I am still new :-(
 
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Yes, I agree with you, but ultimately the Jews seek to destroy the Aryan race. They have flooded Europe with Syrian refugees, African immigrants and are silencing people by reminding them that if they speak out they are racist.

In Iran a similar thing is happening, persians only make up about 60% of the Iranian population. The persian history is being destroyed and replaced with islamic history. I was shocked to learn that pre-Islamic history is not taught in Iran. Yes, we need to get rid of Islam, but I blame the Jews for the current situation.

Also, I would give you a 'thumbs up', however I cant seem to find the button... maybe because I am still new :-(
Jason Reza Jorjani is a scholar on ancient and medieval Iran, but more than that he's a forceful advocate for reclaiming Iran's pre-Islamic roots (although he acknowledges the realities of the current situation). He's done a lot of informative and captivating interviews and written several books on his controversial but solid theories about the REAL story of Iran e.g. see:
(yes the interviewer is subpar, but only a minor distraction; Jorjani's Red Ice interviews were removed from youtube).
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