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Yes, it would be great if Putin could bring in the Russian Army and roll into Lviv by next week, but it wouldn't be worth the costs and the further sanctions. The fact is, despite the massive currency devaluation, unemployment hasn't taken a large rise in Russia, and the contractions in GDP growth aren't nearly as severe as projected. They will get through these sanctions, and more likely than not, Novorossiya will become and autonomous region like Transnistria or Abhkhazia. With this situation, there is absolutely no way in which Ukraine will join NATO, despite the hysteria on the internet, the West would not risk World War with Ukraine by letting them join NATO. And the Europeans are getting wary of sanctions. Putin is playing the long game and is winning. That "Christard" is smarter than you. |
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The killing of my friend Boris Nemtsov must signal the death of appeasement
Garry Kasparov To stop Putin’s aggression, it isn’t necessary for the west to defeat the entire Russian army: just a strategy to make him look like a loser When the Russian opposition leader Boris Nemtsov was assassinated in sight of the Kremlin last Friday night, it shocked even those of us who thought we had lost the ability to be shocked by events in Vladimir Putin’s Russia. When Russian forces moved into Ukraine and Putin annexed Crimea a year ago, it was also a terrible shock to a world that had grown too comfortable with the belief that the days of changing Europe’s borders by force were long over. But we must cease to be surprised by the violence and hatred emanating from Russia today if we are to combat it successfully. When the shock subsides and the evidence is examined, it is clear no one should truly have been surprised by either horrific event. Boris, with whom I worked closely for many years, often talked of the violent ends faced by those who spoke out against Putin. We all knew what could happen to any of us at any time, and a few months after I last left Russia, in February 2013, I decided I would not return. Police states are very good at keeping a monopoly on violence, and Putin’s Russia is no exception. When the victim is a former Russian deputy prime minister and a prominent critic of the regime, and his murder takes place in a wide open area right next to the Kremlin, the chance that it occurred without the involvement of Russia’s security services is vanishingly small. Boris was always under personal and electronic surveillance, but we are supposed to believe that his escort had the night off, and all nearby CCTV cameras happened to be down for repairs that day. “But this is Mr Kasparov’s personal interpretation!” shouted one alarmed BBC presenter when I shared those observations in a live interview this week. “But the Russian government has categorically denied any involvement!” cried another. I accept that the things I say are my personal interpretation, but why is the BBC positioning itself as Putin’s defence attorney? The man has a record; my insinuations are hardly far-fetched. Why cite the official statements of a dictatorship that lies and spreads propaganda at every turn without challenging them? It’s a good example of how the conventions of an open society are exploited by less scrupulous regimes. It represents the culture of engagement and appeasement that has come to replace the harder line of the cold war. But the time for unreciprocated fair play is over. Yesterday I was in Washington DC, speaking to a US Senate subcommittee about how and why the Russian dictator must be stopped. Nearly every head in the room nodded in agreement as I and other invitees – such as the former Georgian president Mikheil Saakashvili – discussed the global danger presented by Putin’s increasingly belligerent regime. The subcommittee circulated a detailed timeline of Russia’s slide back into dictatorship during Putin’s 15 years in power, noting each murder of a critic or journalist, each media outlet closure, each rigged election. I noted that it could easily have produced a parallel timeline of how the leaders of the western world treated the perpetrator of these atrocities at the time. As Putin’s human rights violations – and border violations – accumulated, the European Union and America did very little to take a strong stand that might have altered Putin’s course when it would have been relatively easy to do. Consider the lesson Putin learned the last time Russian tanks crossed a border. In 2008 Russia provoked a military conflict over Abkhazia and South Ossetia, the quasi-independent areas it had helped carve out of Georgia when the USSR fell. Russian forces nearly reached Tbilisi before they turned back, and those supposedly independent regions are little more than Russia-controlled enclaves and a thorn in the side of the Georgians. If you don’t remember what punishment was meted out to Russia for invading its tiny neighbour, it’s because there wasn’t any. Not only was Russia not punished over Georgia, a few months later Putin was rewarded by newly sworn-in President Barack Obama and his secretary of state, Hillary Clinton. Their infamous “Russian reset” wiped the slate clean, despite no real change in Kremlin behaviour. Based on that experience, it is no wonder Putin expresses surprise at the relatively robust response to his assault on Ukraine. An appropriately strong reaction to Putin’s aggression in Ukraine and his brutality in Russia will require a battle on many fronts. Putin, like other modern autocrats, has an advantage that the Soviet leadership could never have dreamed of: deep economic and political engagement with the free world. The naive idea was that the free world would use economic and social ties to gradually liberalise authoritarian states. In practice, the authoritarian states have abused this access and economic interdependency to spread their corruption while cracking down ever harder at home. For the most immediate crisis, Ukraine must be comprehensively supported militarily and economically. Defensive weapons to raise the political costs for Putin in Russia are essential. To address two of the most popular straw-man arguments: it isn’t necessary to defeat the entire Russian army, or start the third world war. Putin cannot afford to look like a loser, which is why he maintains the feeble illusion that Russian forces aren’t fighting in Ukraine. Inflicting enough damage to pierce that illusion is enough. Putin is already blaming the US and Nato for everything in Ukraine so there can be no escalation in that regard. Ukraine may seem far away, but it is the frontline of a war the United States, the United Kingdom and the rest of the free world are fighting, whether they admit it or not. Engagement has failed, and it is time for sterner stuff, the successful cold war recipe of isolation and condemnation. Putin’s oligarch supporters must be forced to choose between giving him up and painful quarantine. The Russian oligarchs are supporting a sponsor of terror in Ukraine, and there is no shortage of existing laws to prosecute such activity. The opposition movement that Boris and I believed in, and that Boris died for, should be openly supported, the way the west once championed the Soviet dissidents. Ronald Reagan told those of us behind the iron curtain that he knew it was our leaders, not us, who were his adversaries. We listened and it mattered, and it should matter again. More than 100,000 people rallied to mourn Boris in Moscow last Sunday, a number that gives the lie to Putin’s meaningless approval numbers. Tell these people, and the millions too afraid to march, that they have a choice. Russia will always be my country, but it is difficult to imagine returning while Putin is still in the Kremlin. I will continue to do whatever I can to draw support to the cause of returning Russia to the path of democracy. The western administrations that have passively watched Putin turn Russia back into a dictatorship – and invade his neighbours – are out of excuses. The next death in Ukraine or the next murder of a dissident in Moscow will be blood on their hands – and no investigation will be necessary. http://www.theguardian.com/commentis...-ukraine-putin |
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Is Nemtsov’s Murder a Replay of Kirov’s?
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Don't get me wrong when Crimea happened I was impressed and very optimistic that this was just the beginning however it soon showed that this was the peak and what followed post Crimea can in no way be described as positive. Unsustainable? Ukraine has enough low IQ cannon fodder and resources to continue this thing for much much longer than Donbass does. When you add in the financial and military support it is and will be getting from the West, including officer core training new NATO equipment, while bombed out Donbass will be more and more isolated and blockaded you will understand that in the long run all the cards are in Kiev's hands. Also this war is not being waged on territory controlled by the junta but on rebel territory and that is a big advantage for the junta. BTW you talk about a 'collapse' of ukraine well 'experts' were predicting this at the beginning of last year, immediately post judeo-Maidan they were saying 'Kiev only has a few more weeks', then it was well by spring, then by start of summer, then autumn, they were telling us well when winter comes it will be the end as Russia will cut of gas and they will freeze. As you can see none of this happened, none of these stupid predictions of the Putin worshippers came true, and not only did the Kiev regime not collapse it only got more entrenched bold brutal and stronger with each passing month. Last year in spring the junta didn't know if it would survive and there was serious concern even possible plans to flee as a collapse was looking possible possibe, however since that time they have stabilized strengthened and now any talk of a collapse is ridiculous. But hey keep dreaming. Quote:
More sanctions are coming regardless of what Putin does as this is not about Ukraine but about Russia. We don't need Russian tanks rolling into Lvov (although it would be nice to give those maggots a little tatse of their own medicine, see how they like it when what they are doing to Donbass is done to them). What we need is for Moscow to begin serious support for the rebels, like Americans give to Kiev, and allow them to move forward without restriction until they liberate more of historic Novorossiya. We don't need anything west of Kiev, and certainly not Lvov and the ex Polish Galicia region which Stalin incorporated into the artificial Soviet construct known as modern Ukraine. Quote:
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Jew Borys Filatov : Leader of Right Sector Nationalists Yarosh was operated on by expert Ukrainian and Israeli surgeons.
Glory to Ukraine! Glory to our doctors! Happy Purim! BTW Stormfront has a big recruitment thread for Right Sector which urges low IQ bottom of the barrel scum from the Slavic and Germanic world to enlist in order to 'fight Putin'.
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Unlike pro Kiev volunteers real reporter Graham Phillips was detained and questioned by ZOG upon his return to Britain. They were asking if he was being paid by the Kremlin or if he had been brainwashed etc
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I have no idea, maybe he attempts to keep Russian jewry in line and therefore he does this type of stuff. Keep in mind that someone doesn't have to be an anti semite in order for International Jewry to want his removal. Just ask the socialist Slobodan Milosevic or the christian Radovan Karadzic.
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The only hope for Ukraine at this point is to sue for peace. If they continue the "ATO" and don't address internal economic issues, they will guaranteed have another Maidan on their hands. So at this point, the two scenarios are in my estimation, they allow an autonomous Novorossiya or they risk regime collapse, and the potential Kiev falls back into the control of some client of Moscow. The Ukraine Army outnumbers Novorossiya and already receives western weapons, and they are still losing and on the defensive in many areas.. It isn't as though some new American weapons and some US/UK advisers will change the ground game. They lack the morale and fighting ability that Novorossiya has. Not only do they lack the fighting ability and cohesion, hundreds of thousands of draftees are evading service, and many going to Russia. One of the reasons I support Putin in this fight is yes, I support Christian Russia over the jewish and atheist US/EU. There is no evidence of more sanctions coming down the road, major EU leaders like Hollande have come out for example in creating a timeline to scale back sanctions. There certainly won't be any new ones in the near future, at least sanctions enforced by the EU. It would be nice to have Odessa for example, but it isn't tenable or realistic at this point. So yes, the progress made at this point in the more traditionally russian areas or Luhansk and Donetsk is a success. |
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You're just another christ-tard that puts religion before race. Let me tell you which Russia I support - WHITE Russia. See that's not so hard? Or do you value race so little that you'd place the teachings of a jewish homosexual above it?
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For some reason you seem to think that the population in junta controlled Ukraine is worse off than the population of Donbass. They are not. Yes they live in hardship but however tough it is for them there is no comparison with how bombed people with no roof over their heads in freezing cold, some even on the verge of starvation, are living in rebel areas. No pensions were being paid as the whole area of so called ATO has been placed under economic blockade by the junta and the West. I will be more than happy for you to come on here say next year and call me out on my error by saying see I told you so! However if I was a betting man I wouldn't put my money on your analysis as I have already seen this scenario with Donbass unfold once before in my area. Same situation same jew actors. We had Albright Novorussians have Nuland. Unless Russia changes from within the way I see it is there are only three realistic possibilities for Donbass. First military total defeat. It may take even a few years of building up Kiev while at the same time draining sapping and blockading Donbass until it gets to that weakened point where we have something very similar to Operation Storm in the Balkans. In such case Russia will have to prepare for a few million refugees. Second possibility, a kind of semi temporary 'peace' with possibly UN or EU 'peace keepers/even more monitors' while politically slowly working for a so called 'peaceful reintegration into Ukraine'. See East Slavonia and Baranja in ex Yugoslavia as a model for this scenario. Third possibility is some combination of the above two, with certain areas being taken militarily while other harder to take ones are slowly reintegrated step by step, gradually handing over their local authority and power to Kiev.
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You support rich international kikes, I have heard you whore for Ukraine in here, because Azov has some cool nazi graphics or something.
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