For WNs Islam is preferable to Christianity

atheism is destroying white children. Girls don't believe in God, so why do they care if they have sex with a beast, or a dog, or whatever. If there's no God, why not suck a dick, white boys say, or why not steal, murder, become like the niggers, they begin to envy the beast for their lack of conscience and morality, saying 'who is like the beast?", they wonder after the beast, and his lack of moral constraints, wishing they could be as stupid and violent and sexual as the niggers.

[J.P. Slovjanski]

Originally Posted by LoveOneAnother

atheism is destroying white children. Girls don't believe in God, so why do they care if they have sex with a beast, or a dog, or whatever. If there's no God, why not suck a dick, white boys say, or why not steal, murder, become like the niggers, they begin to envy the beast for their lack of conscience and morality, saying 'who is like the beast?", they wonder after the beast, and his lack of moral constraints, wishing they could be as stupid and violent and sexual as the niggers.

Why do people need a "God" to tell them what to do? Throughout the history of that "God" society has had those same social ills. Many black people have practiced some form of Christianity for centuries. How do you explain the much more orderly, yet distinctly non-Christian society of Japan?

How could a "Godly" American society turn into this society of today if belief in that God is the answer?

Atheism, or at least some form of it, is the answer. Morality is about life here on Earth, it is about making a better society.

[Aryan Lord]

While the atheist philosophers where sitting behind the safety of their pen the openly Christian Hitler was out in the streets organizing. He did it under the banner of Christianity, just read his book. Now at this point in desperation some may point out a book written about Hitler after his death, but while he was coming to power he was promoting Christianity. I am sure we have all seen the pic of Hitler and the Catholics (crosses and all) giving the Roman Salute.

Hitler despised xtianity as has already been pointed out to you and there is ample evidence from his private conversations which were recorded and published as "Table Talk" which are accepted for their historical veracity by most historians.Nowhere did Hitler "prmote xtianity".He despised it,recognised it for the jewish religion that it is and regarded it as an early forerunner of bolshevism.Let me know if you want me to remind you of the specific references to his hostility towards xtianity in "Table Talk"! Happy to oblige as always.

While the pagan intellectuals were sitting back writing news letters and holding secret closed meetings Glenn Miller was out under the symbol of the Cross organizing in the streets marching past the groids waving the swastika and giving a Roman salute. All the time exposing the Jew.

I am not aware of Mr Miller`s personal religious convictions and neither would it make any difference to me.I look to that famous and noteworthy Germanic pagan Heinrich Himmler for my example.

Now while the philosophers sit behind the safety of their computer screens waiting for salvation to come from the mud skinned Arabs open Christians Vonbluvens and Hal Turner are out in the streets organizing.

I would be interested to hear how they manage to reconcile their racialist world outlook with a religion that promotes "equality"[regardless of race],the elevation of the weak above the strong,the ignoble above the noble,the foolish above the wise and the slave mentality above the Will to Power.

Let’s go further back, while the Romans where content with their prostitutes and pagan statues there was someone named Jesus out in the temples with a flail walking right up to the hook nosed money changers and beating the daylights out of them. From the founder of Christianity on to today, while the pagan philosophers where sitting back telling others how it “should” be done Christians were taking action against the Jews beating them within an inch of their lives.

I am not interested how your kike messiah got his sexual kicks.

Need I remind people of a time called the dark ages when white Christians became fed up and said “forget this we are going to wipe the Jews, mud skinned Arabs and their atheist and pagan buddies off the face of the planet”. What happened next? They went out and everyone that didn’t hide in a cave was exterminated. Now the pagans are enjoying their anti-racist chants and their satanically spawned man on man free love relation ships, Christians are still out in the street telling the Jew right to his hooknose to go back home. Not on the telephone, behind a pen or an anonymous computer name.

Really,I thought that nearly all of the xtian denominations were forming alliances with jews and marching arm in arm with their kike masters demonstrating against racism? In fact 33 of your religion`s official representatives and holders of office signed a petition to save the life of a negro Untermensch.Or have you forgotten that little embarrassing fact?

Look at this thread and notice something. One single person with the possible exception of J.P (I’m famous I really am here is a link look it up) Slovjanski is not hiding behind a username. I will give you a hint, he has the word Jesus in his signature.

Well praise the Lord!

Sure the heathen got out at all white gun shows and whites only gatherings then snapped pictures. There were even a few that would throw flyers out in the dead of night. But when it comes to being out in the public with the exception of a few stragglers protesting wal-mart you won’t see pagans.

So "dr" do you have the religious affiliations of every NS and WN stored on your pc with a record of their actions for the movement? Remember you hit me with the same question!

Listen to radio broadcasts, who is saying to drag the Jew out in the street and beat the ---- out of them? Hal Turner. Open Christian.

Not a very "xtian" sentiment is it? I thought that your JEWISH "messiah" commanded you to "turn the other cheek"? Why are you defying him?

I am not trying to convert you as you have made your decision already. But I do want to point out that when it comes to action it is the Christians out in the street using our real names and openly standing against the Jew.

I only have your word for who you say you are and that is not sufficient for me.You could be anyone couldn`t you?

Now at this point a number will paste a picture trying to refute the Hal Turner march. However while he expels his efforts trying to fight white racists that are doing something, his buddies are here crying about how great their mud-skinned brethren are.

Look around you at milquetoast racism, the “why can’t we all just get along with Muslims but White Racist Christians not allowed” racists are atheists and pagans.

Again your religion is your business but these are the guys that think you are the same just because you don’t accept a certain religion. These people are not the ones you will be able to count on in a crunch.

Don`t worry "doc" we shan`t be "counting" on you.

Don’t let those that are Semitic at heart lie to you, if you are a man of action those supporting the mud skinned Arabs are not on the side of the White man. Listen to Hal Turner and then tell me what you think.[/QUOTE]

I prefer to listen to the dictates of my own mind than meekly accept the words of others.Although xtians being the sheep that they are are quite accustomed to being told what to think.

[Aryan Lord]

Originally Posted by LoveOneAnother

atheism is destroying white children. Girls don't believe in God, so why do they care if they have sex with a beast, or a dog, or whatever. If there's no God, why not suck a dick, white boys say, or why not steal, murder, become like the niggers, they begin to envy the beast for their lack of conscience and morality, saying 'who is like the beast?", they wonder after the beast, and his lack of moral constraints, wishing they could be as stupid and violent and sexual as the niggers.

On the contrary "god" commands them to fuck niggers for "there is neither jew nor Greek.All are one in xrist jewsus".

[Aryan Lord]

Originally Posted by New Order

I don't know who told you that about Link but if he had a god, it was Adolf Hitler. He never had anything bad to say about Christians but he just wasn't one of them. As Savitri Devi said, NS is a religion in and of itself.

I wish our Christian brothers and sisters a Merry Christmas.

The Rev Martin is co-opting everybody as xtians if he can justify it in his own mind.He even has Hitler as a born again tambourine beater!

[Cthulhu]

Originally Posted by Aryan Lord

Hitler despised xtianity as has already been pointed out to you and there is ample evidence from his private conversations which were recorded and published as "Table Talk" which are accepted for their historical veracity by most historians.Nowhere did Hitler "prmote xtianity".He despised it,recognised it for the jewish religion that it is and regarded it as an early forerunner of bolshevism.Let me know if you want me to remind you of the specific references to his hostility towards xtianity in "Table Talk"! Happy to oblige as always.

Oh, really? Leaving aside my distrust of the whole book, let us have a look see at this here:

Before we can begin to sort through whatever alterations Bormann himself may have made to the text, it first should be pointed out how faulty the Trevor-Roper edition is, and the Genoud French translation upon which it is based. Carrier has described the Trevor-Roper edition as "worthless," and in fact, he has shown that all of the major anti-Christian passages commonly cited by historians,including the three at the beginning of this chapter, are frauds and are not contained in the original German, in his article "Hitler's Table-Talk: Troubling Finds." Let us look at these three popular quotes one by one, in light of Carrier's article. The first, often quoted passage is,

"If my presence on earth is providential, I owe it to a superior will. But I owe nothing to the Church that traffics in the salvation of souls, and I find it really too cruel. I admit that one cannot impose one's will by force, but I have a horror of people who enjoy inflicting sufferings on others' bodies and tyranny upon others' souls.

"Our epoch will certainly see the end of the disease of Christianity. It will last another hundred years, two hundred years perhaps. My regret will have been that I couldn't, like whoever the prophet was, behold the promised land from afar. We are entering into a conception of the world that will be a sunny era, an era of tolerance. Man must be put in a position to develop freely the talents that God has given him.

"What is important above all is that we should prevent a greater lie from replacing the lie that is disappearing. The world of Judeo-Bolshevism must collapse. "

This quote is supposedly from February 27, 1942, when Heim was stenographer. Carrier provides the German of Jochmann and Picker which agrees, except in a difference of one word, then his own translation of that German:

"I am here due to a higher power, if I am necessary for anything. Leave aside that she is too cruel for me, the beatifying Church! I have never found pleasure in maltreating others, even if I know it isn't possible to stand your ground in the world without force. Life is only given to those who fight for it the hardest. It is the law of life: Defend yourself!

"The time in which we live indicates the collapse of this idea. It can still take 100 or 200 years. I am sorry that, like Moses, I can only see the Promised Land from a distance.

"We are growing into a sunny, really tolerant worldview: Man shall be able to develop his God-given talents. We must only prevent a new, even greater lie from arising: that of the Jewish-Bolshevist world. That's what I must destroy. "

The difference in these two passages is astounding! There is no mention of a "disease of Christianity" which will end, but rather Hitler speaks in general of his then present world order. He does not mention that he "owes nothing to the Church." He boldly states that he is "here due to a higher power," rather than saying "If I am here..." Rather than speak of Moses condescendingly, he identifies with Moses in his desire to see the Promised Land. He envisions a world free of Jewish-Bolshevism where men will be able to develop fully their God-given talents. So the English edition of Trevor-Roper contains here a complete fabrication, and this fabrication, particularly the line about "the disease of Christianity," is perhaps the most frequently quoted passage by those who attempt to deny the Christianity of Adolf Hitler and the National Socialist Movement.

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[Aryan Lord]

Uh, yes, they WERE actual members of the SS. Technically one needed to be German to wear the RUNES, but there have been many exceptions to this rule albeit not in the Handzar division.

No,they were not.They were auxillaries.A distinction is made between SS Division[SS proper] and Division der SS[auxillary unit co-opted by the SS].
The SS was a Germanic order of men and had very strict entrance requirements.I can vouch for this.
As far as "wearing the runes" is concerned the auxillary divisions had their own substitutes for the SS runes on the collar patches.They did not wear them and they were substituted with other national symbols.



The 13th SS was as "real" as the LAH division or Das Reich. Kama never actually activated because its training area was overrun by the Red Army so the volunteers were sent to Handschar.

No,it was an auxillary unit only.Only men of pure Germanic descent traceable back 200 years were admitted into the SS.This requirement never changed.



With the exception of non-European units, SS men had to meet the racial requirements. They could not wear the runes in most cases, but they were members of the SS.

The racial requrements were GERMANIC blood.


Like Leon DeGrelle? Also, "Division Der SS" means Division of the SS.[/QUOTE]

DeGrelle as a western European would have been regarded as "Germanic".The vast majority of non-Germanics belonged to the Eastern European and moslem units.
I quote from Robin Lumsden`s "Himmler`s Black Order 1923-45",p210.
"Divisions staffed by Germans were know as "SS-Division",while those comprising mainly Volksdeutsche or Germanic personnel,whether volunteers or conscripts,were called "SS-Freiwilligen Division".Units composed primarily of east Europeans or Russians came into the category of "Waffen Division der SS",a term of inferiority which denoted attachment to,rather than actual membership of,the Waffen-SS".
I also quote from p.91 of Robin Lumsden`s "The Allgemeine SS",
"The SS is an association of German men,defined according to their Nordic blood and specially selected."[Clause 1 of the Engagement and Marriage Order of the SS,31/12/45.]
I hope that this clarifies the distinction for you?

Fuck Islam!

[Aryan Lord]

Originally Posted by Donald E. Pauly

Islam is a Medieval religion. We need to keep in mind that 90% of Jews are Atheists. This gives them a big advantage in their racial dominance. Moslems have destroyed every society that they have dominated. Atheism is the only way to go in this scientific age.

As far as "destroying every society" is concerned that has been the speciality of the jew and his xtian younger brother.

[Pale Horse]

Man do you really think you can get Americans to kneel on their face that many times a day?Good luck,As for me Fuck that.

[banjo_billy]

Originally Posted by J.P. Slovjanski

Islam kisses Jewish ass? Open your eyes, turn on a TV, read a book or magazine. There is a wide difference between religion on paper and religion in theory. More importantly, Muslims have NEVER, worshipped a Jew.

Your so-called "voice of reason" has not reason at all. Kissing Jew ass and worshipping a Jew are two different things. Read the Qur'an so that you will know what you are talking about instead of just making stuff up in an effort to evade your defeat in logic and truth.

[banjo_billy]

Originally Posted by LoveOneAnother

It was during the English Victorian Era that England spread out over the earth, and gained mastery of 3/4's of the world. not co-incidently, this was a period where books, lectures, societies were formed in pursuit of the techiques to avoid orgasms and 'pollutions'. Sex was seen as beastial, and was to be suppressed at all costs.
At that time, the Islamic world was England's bitch. Sex isnt' just about sex, you see, sex is about not having sex. Those who abstain from sex have more sexual power.


American society was ruled by Puritans and their ancestors for along time. To this day, the intellectual center of the country is found on the Puritans gravesite, the Ivy League schools.

countries that wallow in sensuality all end up looking like Africa. Europe wallows in sensuality, Canada, and that is why floods of immigrants are sacking their nations.

There is a terrible price to pay for sexual immorality, and it usually falls upon the heads of their children, but when one is caught up in the thrill of evil sexual pleasures, one does not care about one's own children. When one engages in the act that bears children, in a careless way, one is showing they don't care about who their children's father/mother is, they don't care about their own children, they don't care much about anything, really.

You have a pretty good handle on the subject. Sex is also about having children and taking the responsibility to nurture and raise those children. And the monks and nuns and priests who abstain from sex, use their energies for higher consciousness of the Eternal. It is all the Ancient Way which has been forgotten by modern man.

[Frank Toliver]

I believe abstinence has to be chosen to mean anything, not mandated. Look at the mess the catholic church is in now because of celibacy by mandate.

I really can't tell what I believe, but I know we are less than we can be.

[banjo_billy]

Originally Posted by Aryan Lord

Please explain how xtianity "freed women"! Also what are the "higher attainments" which you speak of? ]

Christianity freed women from the view that they were somehow inferior to men. From the drudge slave of men, Christianity showed that the highest of spiritual men are born through woman. And that the woman who can achieve a high state of spiritual purity are worthy to be the mothers of saints. Christianity showed that God moved through Woman just as much as He moved through Men. And Christianity showed that what men and women perceived as an ordinary life could be filled with spiritual light and bliss as a higher attainment leading to holy insight.

Originally Posted by Aryan Lord

What works of Nietzsche have you read? Are you equating his rejection of xtianity,which is a semitic and therefore alien religion with the rejection of religion or spirituality per se? If so do you not find this position illogical?
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Let's start with Nietzsche's ridiculous views of Christianity in his "Human, all too Human". Nearly everything he writes about Christianity is false and is based upon his false ideas. He really didn't understand the subject and filled his writing with exercises in logic based on false assumptions. In regard to religion, Nietzsche was a stupid fool although he seems to have impressed lesser intellects with his dazzling array of logical deadends.

Originally Posted by Aryan Lord

What are these "joys" that you speak of?
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Infinite Bliss, Serene tranquility, limitless wisdom, joyous happiness, supreme peace, steadfast courage, resounding victory, unassailable power. These, for starters.

Originally Posted by Aryan Lord

Your xtianity has not changed.It has its roots in judaism and is the singlemost deadly weapon that the jew has had in his arsenal to destroy our race for the last 2,000 years.
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You assume that I am a Christian. And you assume that my religious knowledge is based in Judaism. But your assumptions are wrong. What I am speaking about is True Religion and that is not found by rejecting religion just because you don't understand it. What I am speaking about any Odinist can find.

Originally Posted by Aryan Lord

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You do your jewish religion no credit by labelling those who take issue with your comments as "idiots".

I do not have a Jewish religion. Jews are devils. You accuse me falsely. I am not labeling those who take issue with my comments as idiots. I am only labeling this particular idiot as an idiot. It is not that he takes issue with what I say, it is that he says idiotic things. So what else could he be?

[brutus]

RE: Aryan Lord

Why do you close your eyes and mind to the religion and spirituality of your ancestors which for Germanic man was Odinism?
www.wodensfolk.org.uk

I’m not closing my eyes or mind to anything. And I’m well aware of most of humanity’s spiritual explorations of the various cultures throughout time. And it’s because I’m aware of them, is the precise reason why I suggest that we should shit-can them.

It is pointless and sheer folly to muse about "starting a new religion" when the old is staring right at you.

Now who is closing the eyes and mind?

Furthermore I would also contend that White Nationalism has no "dogma".That is the whole problem with it:it is merely reactive and has no vision.Only National Socialism can provide us with this vision and is itself based upon nature`s eternal laws.

To the contrary, there are many aspects of White Nationalism that we could have an easily agreed upon consensus from the majority of WNs for the principal tenets of the creed. Survival of the White race and recognition as the jew as the greatest evil could be the cornerstones. The rest would disseminate from there.

Of course, there is much from the National Socialist’s point of view that could be incorporated, because they had/have much of it right.

[banjo_billy]

Originally Posted by Cowboy Zeke

I believe abstinence has to be chosen to mean anything, not mandated. Look at the mess the catholic church is in now because of celibacy by mandate.

I really can't tell what I believe, but I know we are less than we can be.

The Catholic Church was infiltrated many years ago by faggots and child molesters who purposely entered so as to destroy the Church that they hated. May of these were organised by the Jews and Commies.

The main necessary thing that the Church needs to do, is follow the Old Ways. That is, burn the faggots and child molesters at the the stake and get on with the business of saving souls.

[Sean Martin]

www.solargeneral.com download the GLR vid of his tv interview. He states "Hitler was a Christian just like me". This was from his very own mouth on camera speaking to the world. Not some book that could be spun or misrepresented.

Did he lie? Who knows but he positively recognized the power of Christianity and wanted to ride the bandwagon.

Yet another open Christian sticking it to the Jew I forgot to mention is David Duke, a hero among men. While Linder claims he is lying about his faith, one thing is for sure he has done more under the banner of Christianity in the past 20 years than the pagans/atheists together. To my knowledge Duke is the only racist in the past 40 years that has gotten a law changed in our favor.

Originally Posted by New Order

I don't know who told you that about Link but if he had a god, it was Adolf Hitler. He never had anything bad to say about Christians but he just wasn't one of them. As Savitri Devi said, NS is a religion in and of itself.

I wish our Christian brothers and sisters a Merry Christmas.

[FranzJoseph]

Originally Posted by banjo_billy

Christianity freed women and made them qualified for all higher attainments, thanks to the Catholic views of the Virgin Mary.

Catholics have been repeating this so long people are actually starting to believe it.

In fact "the Virgin Mary" was a cobbed together fiction based on any number of ancient goddesses. From Knossos to the North Sea, these goddesses presided over cultures that honored women far higher than they would be in any Christian society till at least the 19th century.

Women in these nations often had the right of divorce, were permitted voice in public affairs and were generally freer than most women on earth right now. And since we're talking about European women, it means their religion suited their overall social mores a lot better than Canaanite imports, whether Jewish Christian or Muslim.

Also keep in mind that monotheism as we know it springs from Leventine sheep-fuckers. Jewish men used to begin each day with a prayer thanking "g-d" they were not born women. It went downhill from there.

For good, concise look at Bronze Age pagan women and what sort of world paganism offered them, Joyce Tyldesley's book Daughters of Isis dispells a lot of the bullshit this subject seems to gather.

[VLC]

Originally Posted by F.W. Braun

One of the reasons why birth-rates of Whites in the West are in severe decline stems from the fact that Christianity saddled sex with all sorts of moral taboos, which have remained with the post-Christian West even though Christianity is in total free-fall.

wrong. my french catholic grandmother had something like 16 kids. I once met a guy who had 22 brothers and sisters. When the catholic church was everywhere in Quebec very large families in rural ares were common. The Catholic teachings -> sexual pleasure and pleasure in general = bad, making lots of children for the Lord = good

I'm not saying christianity is good though. A racist can't seriously be a christian at the same time because christianity says our souls are all equal, i.e. an african christian is as good as a white christian. That's a major contradiction.

besides you're contradicting yourself because many islamists are in favor of de-cliting girls and punishing women who don't wear the carpet. Islam has more sex related taboos than you can imagine

we're not in danger because we don't have a high birth rate, we're in danger because our traitors have invited non-whites to settle in our lands and subsidized them to make children to replace us.

[Mike]

Why is WNism such a magnet for lunatics? Islam is preferable for Whites? You are out of your mind. Sometimes the stupidity of the people attracted to this "movement" enrages me more than the actions of the Jews.

Originally Posted by F.W. Braun

One of the reasons why birth-rates of Whites in the West are in severe decline stems from the fact that Christianity saddled sex with all sorts of moral taboos, which have remained with the post-Christian West even though Christianity is in total free-fall.

This is one of the most whacked assertions on the topic of religion I have ever seen on this forum. Contrary to your nutjob reasoning, the decline of the White birth rate can not be blamed on the "taboos" (Whites call them "standards") of Christianity. It's feminism, sexual libertinism, and free birth control which have caused that. Only a moron or a degenerate suggests that some sort of reluctance of people to have sex is the root of the problem. It's getting them to actually have children and raise them properly in families which is the rub. If anything, traditional Christianity has been a help in this regard, at least in the past.

Your entire brain-dead post:

Originally Posted by F.W. Braun

For WNs Islam is preferable to Christianity One of the reasons why WNs should favour Islam over Christianity concerns Christianity's deranged, psychotic, sick attitude towards sexuality. One of the reasons Nietzsche hated Christianity was that it "made something unclean out of sexuality", whereas Islam is sex-positive.

For e.g., Al-Suyuti (died 1505 C.E.), Qur'anic commentator and polymath wrote:

Each time we sleep with a houri [a sensuous and always sexually available dark-eyed virgin Muslims meet in Paradise] we find her virigin. Besides, the penis of the Elected never softens. The erection is eternal; The sensation that you feel each time you make love is utterly delicious and out of this world and were you to experience it in this world you would faint. Each chosen one [i.e. Muslim], will marry seventy [sic.] houris, besides the women he married on earth, and all will have appetizing vaginas.

One cannot imagine the staid, ascetic, anti-sex Church fathers writing ecstatically of heavenly and multiple sex as Al-Suyuti did.

One of the reasons why birth-rates of Whites in the West are in severe decline stems from the fact that Christianity saddled sex with all sorts of moral taboos, which have remained with the post-Christian West even though Christianity is in total free-fall. Further, I submit that those psychologically weak Whites who need an imaginary sky-god to give meaning to their lives, should contemplate converting to a manly, virile, life-affirming, two-fisted faith (as the French Revisionist and philosopher Roger Garaudy did), and turn their backs on the peecee, anti-White, feminist, pro-minority, pro-immigration, decadent, homosexual, Zionist Christianity of most Christian Churches.

If I was a religious person, I wouldn't hesitate...addtionally, Muslims and Whites share the same deadly Enemy and should/must unite to combat Him, since their mutual survival depends on it.