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The above contact info for Ed Steele remains correct as of 1/3/2012 @0450 hrs.,
Per http://www.free-edgar-steele.com/?page_id=22 and the BOP locator information has always been correct.
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Steele's Website Changes It's Mind
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"Never mind Ed Steele, I didn't get it right but look at me again anyway... "
Does all this matter?
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Mail addressed to Ed Steele was returned from the SEATAC facility, as Mr. Steele had been moved, a process that took about ten days. The BOP prison locator information reposted by me (above) has always been correct. The locator link indicating "USP Victorville" WAS posted on the Free Edgar Steele web site, along with an alternative address and identification number, indicating those in possession of the site may have been getting conflicting information. Cut those handling Mr. Steele's affairs a little slack and do your own homework. A quick phone call to the VIP facility in Adelanto (near Victorville, California) was all that was necessary to confirm that Edgar James Steele #14226-023 was there currently and that is all the information prison officials are allowed to provide to the public. I got the impression that just because Mr. Steele is there this morning does not mean he will still be there tonight, which is the nature of the beast. Just use the BOP locator system posted and, if you're planning a visit, confirm that Mr. Steele is still at the facility you plan to visit, that you're on his approved visitor list, and ask if there are any other requirements including visiting hours. It's a good idea to ask, up front, for the name of the person who gives you the information. Last edited by -JC; January 3rd, 2012 at 03:06 PM. |
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Can't confirm this noise from the Free Edgar Steele link Mr. Pauly simply re-posted...
But what's important is getting some emotional support to Mr. Steele. Who knows, a Presidential pardon might be in the offing.
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More Hope for Steele than I thought
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It looks like that Steele's website has no real idea where he is. They could well be responsible for a loss of important mail to Steele. As -JC correctly points out, the BOP website is the best source for an address for him. This is especially true since he has confirmed by phone that Steele is in Victorville. |
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January 4th, 2012 | #2407 |
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And an insanity plea is arguably a repudiation of one's work...
"In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act."- George Orwell (Eric Arthur Blair)
Norway murderer Breivik, who actually killed 77 people, found criminally insane, may avoid prison but spend life in asylum http://www.vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=135990 [Ezra] “Pound was arrested and accused of treason; he spent 13 years in St. Elizabeth’s Hospital (a government institution for the criminally insane in Washington, D.C.)” (He was born in 1885 and died, broken, in 1972)] |
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[Ezra] “Pound was arrested and accused of treason; he spent 13 years in St. Elizabeth’s Hospital (a government institution for the criminally insane in Washington, D.C.)” (He was born in 1885 and died, broken, in 1972)] __________________ quote James Jesus Angleton ============================================ Unquote Eustace Mullins with many other writers worked to get him released finally in 1959. This Son of Idaho is not known there in favor of a real nut case drunk Hummingways. Ezra said on arrival in Italy very soon after his release that all of Amerika was an insane asylum. The way the government at the time treated Ezra Pound revealed themselves as the real mental patients for such cruelty. Surely he knew NYC was a nest and so no wonder as soon as he was released he got a passport and left. Our Lunatic criminals with their media have promoted all types of boozing, and every sort drugs and perversion along with constant war, robbing US to point of being naked to the wind and then gave US open borders for no peace of mind for the working class are a bad case of rust.
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Where is -JC?
Cyndi has sent out a newsletter this morning. I have been waiting for -JC to post it so that we don't have a duplicate post. He never looks before he posts.
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Cyndi's Letter to Idaho Senator
-JC has not woken up to the fact that Cyndi has sent out a newsletter. I will not post it because he will duplicate it. That news letter is likely overblown. This letter from Cyndi to Idaho Senator Crapo gives some new data on Steele's medical condition.
BTW, the Superfund Cleanup website says that the risk of human exposure at George AFB is over. I have grave doubts that hundreds of thousands of gallons of jet fuel would have been dumped into the water table. That is worth hundreds of thousands of dollars and would have been used a fuel in aircraft. The water likely is Victorville municipal water and would therefore be drunk by everyone in the area outside of the prison. Quote:
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Bogus Drinking Water Contamination Claim
Exactly as I had thought, groundwater is not used as drinking water at the prison and never has been. You can't get exposed to TCE contamination by taking a shower in it. Leaking jet fuel tanks over a 50 year period could indeed have deposited a lot of JP-4 under ground. This is kerosene and probably not as toxic as trichloroethylene which was used extensively for cleaning aircraft frames and engines.
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January 7th, 2012 | #2412 |
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Thanks for alerting me to posts by those I consider trolls and "Ignore," I suppose...
Reference the previous three posts by Donald Pauley and particularly his vehement assertions of fact that are in direct conflict with what he quotes as authorities. The e-mail posting that Mr. Pauley failed to post, blaming me for his not posting it and probably attempting to discourage me from posting it is, to the best of my knowledge, not available elsewhere online. If I thought the e-mail was important then I'd have posted it but I think it is more important to attempt to focus this thread and anyone interested in e-mail from www.Free-Edgar-Steele.com can sign-up for such private e-mail postings without having to endure Mr. Pauley's at least self-important and maybe malicious editorializing.
Regarding the issues raised by Cindi Steele in her most current post, water quality/cancer and other risk concerns, at least I'm aware that I'm not qualified to voice an opinion. However, I know that environmental impact studies, whether drafted by government employees or contractors, e.g., WIRTH ASSOCIATES, http://books.google.com/books/about/Environmental_impact_report_A_P_S_transm.html?id=NtxsHQAACAAJ, were at one time usually drafted by young, idealistic employees whose only conflicts of interest were probably their careers. Such reports were undoubted at least reviewed prior to acceptance for publication by more politicized management that has an interest in the impact of the report itself on the direction of the agency/business involved. As a starting point to understanding some of these issues, I encourage anyone interested in this groundwater contamination subject to view the dramatized but relatively accurate video, Erin Brochovich http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0195685/. Here's what a subdivision of the Centers for Diseases control, quoted as a source by Mr. Pauley as authority but either not read, not understood, or deliberately misrepresented by him, had to say about the PG&E releases at Hinkley: · ATSDR - Press Release - 1/31/2001 - ATSDR Releases ... o ATSDR Releases Public Health Assessment For The Pacific Gas and Electric Site In Hinkley, California. Hinkley County, Hinkley, California ... § www.atsdr.cdc.gov/news/displaynews.asp?PRid=2328 · ATSDR-PHA-HC-Pacific Gas and Electric Facility-p1 o Lead, Nitrate, Mercury and Chromium Levels in Water from Private Domestic Wells near the Pacific Gas and Electric Facility in Hinkley, California. ... § www.atsdr.cdc.gov/HAC/pha/PHA.asp?docid=63&pg=1 · ATSDR-PHA-HC-Pacific Gas and Electric Facility-p-toc o Nitrate, Lead, Thallium and Chromium Levels in Water from Private Domestic Wells near the Pacific Gas and Electric Facility in Hinkley, California. ... § www.atsdr.cdc.gov/HAC/pha/PHA.asp?docid=308&pg=0 · ATSDR - Public Health Assessments & Health Consultations ... o Nitrate, Mercury and Chromium Levels in Water from Private Domestic Wells near the Pacific Gas and Electric Facility in Hinkley, California [HTML], ... § www.atsdr.cdc.gov/HAC/PHA/HCPHA.asp?State=CA Cindy Steele, et al., may be grasping at straws, as I might be under the circumstances. Again, I'm in no position to judge and I certainly don't have an agenda or opinion on Mr. Steele's guilt or innocence. I am however troubled by both Mr. Pauley's ongoing energy, apparent dishonesty, and attempts to prejudice others on these subjects. For example: http://www.atsdr.cdc.gov/hac/pha/PHA.asp?docid=24&pg=1“… OU 2: Jet fuel releases. OU 2 consists of the facility's liquid fuel distribution system. A variety of leaks in this system resulted in an estimated of perhaps as much as a 750,000 to 800,000-gallon plume of jet propellant #4 (JP-4) encompassing an area of over 31 acres, as well as a dissolved-phase plume of benzene, toluene, ethylbenzene, and xylenes extending over an area of 121 acres…” [and] http://www.cdph.ca.gov/programs/hesis/Documents/tce.pdf “Trichloroethylene mainly affects the central nervous system (the brain), causing headache, nausea, dizziness, clumsiness, drowsiness, and other effects like those of being drunk. TCE can also damage the facial nerves, and it can cause skin rash. Heavy exposure can damage the liver and kidneys. TCE causes cancer in animals and may cause cancer in humans… “… TCE can also be absorbed through your skin, especially with lengthy skin contact or if your skin is cut or cracked. “Overexposure to TCE mainly affects the central nervous system (the brain). Other symptoms can also occur, as described below… “ Last edited by -JC; January 7th, 2012 at 07:09 AM. |
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Two 500,000 gallon underground fuel tanks leaked into the aquifers supplying the base with drinking water. A dry cleaner on base threw the TCE waste from his business out the back door which then went into the aquifers that supplied drinking water to the base. 750,000 men, women, and children drank that shit for at least 30 years. When the Marine Corps found out that the water was contaminated they didn't shut the water plant down but knowingly and criminally let men, women, and children continue to drink that contaminated water for at least five more years. Read all about it here asshole: The Few, The Proud, The Forgotten and here: Water Survivors You're a government agent of some sort and should be limited to the opposition forums or put in the Tard Coral. In a perfect world you'd be hunted down and re-educated. In passing, go fuck yourself. |
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This is a clear lie. Contamination at former George AFB is just like any other closed Air Force Force Base. Old jet fuel tanks develop pin hole leaks from rust in the bottom and contaminate the water table. This jet fuel is a thousand foot deep and no wells are there. This happens every day in closed gasoline stations over the country. That is why the EPA is making their owners dig up the tanks. Presumably modern tanks are plastic lined to prevent this. There are about 5100 prisoners at Victorville. http://www.bop.gov/locations/weekly_report.jsp VICTORVILLE MED I 1,767 VICTORVILLE MED II 1,772 VICTORVILLE MED II 297 VICTORVILLE USP 1,526 There would be dozens of lawsuits from these prisoners if there was anything wrong with the water. They get their water from Victorville see Quote:
Pravda Bill White was locked up far away from Virginia before he was released on appeal. I don't think that the Feds consider the convenience of visitors when they select prison locations. Falsely complaining about the water totally discredits any possible just complaints about prison assignments. Cyndi doesn't seem to be worried about any of the other 5,000 inmates drinking that same water. Last edited by Donald E. Pauly; January 7th, 2012 at 03:10 PM. Reason: typo |
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-JC Will Duplicate This Post
I predict that -JC will duplicate this post. He has had two days to post the letter from Cyndi and will promptly post it again. I haven't researched Karla Fuller but my money says that her estate would have sued the Federal Government for millions if the water had killed her.
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Bogus Water Contamination Claim
Karla Fuller got breast cancer shortly after being sentenced to Victorville. Women get breast cancer all of the time. Medical treatment there seems to have been atrocious, but water did not cause her breast cancer. She had an attorney who never made such a claim. He would have smelled money.
This lie makes it impossible for anyone to go to bat for Steele and try to get him moved closer to Idaho. He is held in maximum security lockup which may reduce the number of options for prisons. Many of the posters here have not learned anything from Steele's steamy love letters written from his jail cell to Tatyana Loginova. This whole mess is a GIGANTIC swindle of the White Nationalist Community. Quote:
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No, that's your agenda, Mister Pauly...
I guess I don't see a WN swindle by Cyndi based on what is verifiable; maybe a lawyer swindle. And I'm cynical enough to question whether there is, in fact, pollution in the aquifer that might be in domestic water at the prison. Based on what I'm reading, I'd be concerned with being housed at the former George Air Force Base (GAFB) and perhaps using non-potable water for bathing, etc.
My issues are not so much with Cindi Steele, who is understandably stressed probably beyond her limits, but with Pauly making false statements, then editing, changing the subject, name-calling, etc., when they're noticed, e.g., that TCE cannot be absorbed through the skin, thta the pollution at GAFB is a thousand feet beneath the surface, and that Steele is in "max" security lockdown. Remember that Pauly claims to have volunteered with the National Alliance and then badmouthed Dr. Pierce here. Several of you mentioned to me that Pauly now is bashing the Steeles and anyone who questions why he makes it his business. "The Federal Correctional Institution (FCI II Medium) - Victorville in Adelanto, California, is a medium security facility housing male inmates... It is part of the Victorville Federal Correctional Complex (FCC)." This was no pinhole leak: http://www.atsdr.cdc.gov/hac/pha/PHA.asp?docid=24&pg=1 “… OU 2: Jet fuel releases. OU 2 consists of the facility's liquid fuel distribution system. A variety of leaks in this system resulted in an estimated of perhaps as much as a 750,000 to 800,000-gallon plume of jet propellant #4 (JP-4) encompassing an area of over 31 acres, as well as a dissolved-phase plume of benzene, toluene, ethylbenzene, and xylenes extending over an area of 121 acres…” I'm told that Erin Brockovich again found PG&E-denied hexavalent chromium in community water including the public swimming pool in the Kettleman Hills, Kings County, California, five years after the Hinkley settlement. Other concerns about GAFB groundwater pollution are here: http://www.georgeafb.info/about and here: http://www.safie.hq.af.mil/afrpa/leg...date/index.asp including that "Cleanup Effort Continues at Former George Air Force Base "The Air Force has been working to clean up the former George Air Force Base since 1981, spending nearly $113 million to rid the ground and two aquifers of jet fuel, solvents, and pesticides. And the job isn't finished. According to the Air Force's 2010 annual report to Congress, the federal government anticipates spending another $40.3 million at George through 2038. "... The geology, the climate, and the dry ground's sensitivity to water have complicated the cleanup effort at the former George AFB. Located in the High Desert in rural San Bernardino County, George receives an average of less than six inches of rain a year. In such a dry environment, the plentiful irrigation used at the former base pushed contaminants into the aquifer. Once a pollutant gets into the groundwater, it flows with the water in what's known as a plume, degrading the water's quality. The plumes at George are far beneath the surface and can be monitored only by drilling 130 to 260-foot deep wells. .. "... Within the past six years, a massive fuel plume, containing about 3.5 million gallons of jet fuel, was discovered about 160 feet under what's called a "tank farm," a group of aboveground fuel storage tanks, each holding thousands of gallons of fuel. Some of the tanks are still being used by businesses flying at the site, now known as Southern California Logistics Airport. The Air Force installed 22 new monitoring wells in 2010 to get more data on the extent of the plume..." Quote:
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The swindle here is when the Steele camp falsely claimed that Steele was framed by the U.S. government. Any fool can see that he went crazy as a result of aorta surgery. All you have to do is read his rambling statement at sentencing to see that he is crazy.
Now when one of us REALLY is framed by the Famous But Incompetent, no one will believe us. It was fraud to solicit $122,000 from Steele's supporters when his legal team had to know that he had gone crazy. Insanity is contagious to some degree and it has infected Cyndi too. Her support of her husband is commendable but she could do far more by admitting that he is insane and use that to get him out of prison. He is not to blame for his actions but those around him are to blame for theirs. |
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Forgive me for butting in when I'm not really conversant with every fact of this case, but I have a question for Donald. Do you know Edgar Steele? If not, why are you so convinced that he's crazy as a result of heart surgery? His wife doesn't seem to think he is crazy and as the person who presumably knows him better than anyone, I'd have thought she'd be ideally placed to be able to make a judgment on whether his sanity deteriorated after the surgery.
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