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Old June 6th, 2020 #1
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Default John Lennon wanted Hitler on cover of Sgt Pepper’s Lonely Hearts Club Band album

John Lennon wanted Hitler on cover of Sgt Pepper’s Lonely Hearts Club Band album

Jann Haworth, who co-created the classic image with Peter Blake, revealed the surprising choice on our podcast
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28th November 2019 17:15 BST





The Beatles' Sgt Pepper’s Lonely Hearts Club Band album the band's "heroes"


John Lennon originally included Hitler in his list of “heroes” for the cover of The Beatles’ Sgt Pepper’s Lonely Hearts Club Band. So says Jann Haworth, who co-created the classic image with Peter Blake, on The Art Newspaper Podcast.

The idea for the gathering of lifesize cut-out figures and waxworks, now widely regarded as the most famous album cover of all time, was that “The Beatles were to choose their heroes”, Haworth explains. But, she says, “they didn't choose enough, so Peter and I chose the rest. The Beatles really only chose 30% to 40% of the heads that are on there.” The collaborative nature of deciding on the final make-up of the famous multitude—Blake has said that Haworth’s art dealer Robert Fraser also did a list—meant that those involved could edit or “peck” at the various lists, Haworth says. “There was a big peck that took Hitler out. On John's list of heroes was Hitler. There's no way that is in any way allowable or OK, there is no way to process that. You have to say John had clay feet if he was able to make that choice. We can overlook these things, pass over them as if, ‘Oh, it was the folly of youth’. But Hitler's not the folly of youth: it's really a stupid decision. So that had to go.”


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Old December 27th, 2020 #2
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A Cardboard Hitler on British Soil: His Command Performance for Sgt. Pepper




March 30, 2016Post category:Art, Fashion, Design / BeatlesPost comments:3 Comments7143 Views


Betcha didn’t know that Adolf Hitler was almost on the cover of The Beatles’ most revered album. That’s right. When art director Robert Fraser and designers Jann Haworth and Sir Peter Blake began working with the band to conceptualize the cover art for “Sgt. Pepper’s Lonely Hearts Club Band” they told each Beatle to compile a list of people they admired. Their idea was to create life size cardboard models of these characters and place them in the background, as an “audience” behind the Pepper band.




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The affable Ringo forfeited his choices to the others, who came up with a diverse assortment of characters: Shirley Temple, Carl Jung, Mae West, Edgar Allan Poe, Sonny Liston, Tyrone Power, and Lenny Bruce, to name just a few of the more than 70 people represented. The Beatles’ record company EMI was careful to obtain permission from every living person before reproducing their likeness on the cover. The ever sardonic John Lennon suggested two historical figures bound to cause controversy: Jesus Christ and Adolf Hitler. Excluding JC from the cover was a no-brainer: John’s 1966 “Beatles are bigger than Christ” remark had already caused enough of a brouhaha. But convincing him to forgo Hitler took some persuading.

The designers went so far as to create and place a cardboard model of the Nazi leader on the set. A picture from a March 30, 1967, photo session clearly shows a non-uniformed Hitler standing to the right of hand-waving writer Stephen Crane. In fact, Der Führer remained in the final shot, unseen, hidden behind Tarzan actor Johnny Weissmuller, who stands directly behind Ringo.

What was John thinking? Sure, he loved black humor, but this clearly pushed the boundaries of satire. I guess the bigger question is: Why have so many British artists had a fascination with Hitler, with Nazi fashion and, in some cases, with fascist philosophy? It’s intrigued me for years. In my two-part article “Heil, Heil Rock-n-Roll. What’s with Brit Rockers and the Reich?” I attempt to provide some insight — hopefully, without appearing to excuse, justify or make light of truly bad behavior.


https://hipquotient.com/2016/03/30/a...or-sgt-pepper/





http://www.feelnumb.com/2010/01/24/a...r-album-cover/

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Old December 27th, 2020 #3
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Pretty sure Blake was a Jew and I bet Haworth, too. But not certain.
 
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Pretty sure Blake was a Jew and I bet Haworth, too. But not certain.

They were all against John Lennon, so he was forced to accept the majority decision.

And Jann Haworth is clearly what we call today an anti-fascist, or even a communist.

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Yes, it is very sad that Adolf Hitler’s image wasn’t allowed on the album jacket of the Beatles drug music. Surely, the Führer would have been greatly honored to know that he was considered a "hero" by the degenerate race-mixer John Lennon.
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Old December 28th, 2020 #6
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Yes, it is very sad that Adolf Hitler’s image wasn’t allowed on the album jacket of the Beatles drug music. Surely, the Führer would have been greatly honored to know that he was considered a "hero" by the degenerate race-mixer John Lennon.


It was good that you participated in this thread, because it reminded me to take advantage of the thread to say that John Lennon, along with the brilliant musical talent, had serious defects, such as the use of drugs at a certain stage in life, and the racial mixture in the second marriage, generating a mixed-race child.

But I can't help saying that he had a socialist, or socializing - non-communist - and pacifist tendency, contrary to what the leftist-Zionist warlords wanted, and for this reason John Lennon came to be hated by the masters of the leftist / Zionist Elite that controls the world, mainly within the United States.

I don't know if Führer would feel honored to be considered a hero by John Lennon, but I think Führer would also know how to recognize this other side of John Lennon, the side that faced and challenged the System, in addition to recognizing his musical talent.

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I personally never thought of the Beatles as having much talent, not as a band or individually. For the most part, when it comes to music, popularity seems to be a good sign of mediocrity.



But I digress.
 
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I don't know if Fuhrer would feel honored to be considered a hero by John Lennon, but I think Fuhrer would also know how to recognize this other side of John Lennon

If I were a bettin' man, I would bet that Lennon merely suggested Hitler be on the cover as a punk move, like a troll, like teenage angst, to "stir the pot". Nothing more.

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If I were a bettin' man, I would bet that Lennon merely suggested Hitler be on the cover as a punk more, like a troll, like teenage angst, to "stir the pot". Nothing more.


I find the talent of the four musicians from The Beatles unquestionable, but each one has his own musical preference.

And yes, John was kind of like a "political troll", he shook the System, and he was not politically correct ...

He was not politically correct in the 1960s, and he would not be today.

In the 1970s, he began to arouse the hatred of warlords of leftist / Zionist globalism, like Nixon and others.
 
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The Beatles - Revolution

(Composed by John Lennon, credited to the Lennon-McCartney duo)


You say you want a revolution
Well, you know
We all want to change the world
You tell me that it's evolution
Well, you know
We all want to change the world

But when you talk about destruction
Don't you know that you can count me out
Don't you know it's gonna be

All right
All right
All right

You say you got a real solution
Well, you know
We'd all love to see the plan
You ask me for a contribution
Well you know
We're all doing what we can

But if you want money for people with minds that hate
All I can tell you is brother you have to wait
Don't you know it's gonna be

All right
All right
All right

You say you'll change the constitution
Well, you know
We'd all love to change your head
You tell me it's the institution
Well, you know
You'd better free your mind instead

But if you go carrying pictures of Chairman Mao
You ain't going to make it with anyone anyhow
Don't you know it's gonna be

All right
All right
All right
All right


 
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Penny Lane signs defaced in Liverpool over slavery claims

Published12 June 2020

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-merseyside-52992669




Defaced Penny Lane sign
image captionThe road signs on Penny Lane were attacked overnight on Thursday
Road signs on Penny Lane in Liverpool have been defaced over claims they are linked to slave merchant James Penny.



The markers had the word Penny blacked out and the word racist written above them on Thursday night.

The city's International Slavery Museum said it was not certain whether the street, which was immortalised in a song by The Beatles in 1967, was named after the 18th Century slave merchant.

A spokeswoman said "more research is needed" to clarify the name's origin.




Emmett O'Neill cleaning a Penny Lane sign
City tour guide Jackie Spencer, who runs Blue Badge Tour Guides, said she was "absolutely livid".

"It's pure ignorance," she said.

"We've researched it and it has nothing to do with slavery. James Penny was a slave trader, but he had nothing to do with the Penny Lane area."

Local resident Emmett O'Neill, who has helped clean the paint from the signs, said he thought it was "an idiotic act".

"If you want something removed, there's ways and means," he said.

"Defacing Penny Lane signs isn't going to change a lot [and] it's the wrong way to go about things."

Several of the road's signs already had a large amount of graffiti on them, much of it Beatles-related, with one even bearing the signature of Sir Paul McCartney.




Defaced Penny Lane sign
image captionLiverpool's International Slavery Museum said the link to James Penny was "not conclusive"

Liverpool City Council was criticised by historian Laurence Westgaph on Monday for "not doing enough" to acknowledge the city's links with slavery.



Mr Westgaph said he understood the actions, but added residents should "talk to the council and demand certain things that should have been changed years ago".

The city's mayor, Joe Anderson, said he was "frustrated" by the "defacement of our street signs".

"[It] does nothing to further advance the argument and the debate around Black Lives Matter here in Liverpool," he said.

"It isn't just about the artefacts and street names, it's also about how we change the fundamental things that are causing disadvantage and inequality within our city."


Who was James Penny?

Liverpool merchant James Penny captained 11 voyages carrying slaves and had his own shipping company, James Penny & Co
He was one of several Liverpool traders who spoke in favour of slavery at a parliamentary inquiry into the slave trade set up in 1788
In evidence, he claimed slaves on his ships were allowed to play games, dance and sing and would "sleep better than the gentlemen do on shore"
When Penny returned to Liverpool, the city's corporation, which was dominated by those with slaving interests, presented him with a silver-plated table centrepiece in gratitude
Source: International Slavery Museum

Liverpool was Europe's most used slave port by 1740 and many of its streets have names linked to slavery.

However, the International Slavery Museum, which includes Penny Lane in its display of street names linked to slavery, said the evidence linking Penny Lane to James Penny was "not conclusive".

"We are actively carrying out research on this particular question and will re-evaluate our display and change if required," a spokeswoman added.



 
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John Lennon admired Hitler? Imagine that!
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