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Old August 30th, 2021 #1
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Latin America, the Nazis and the role of the Vatican
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After World War II, Nazi criminals fled the so-called "rat route" to South America - with the help of the Vatican. How much did the pope know about all this? Opening the files of Pius 12 should bring more clarity. In 1948, it was only three years since World War II had ended, when one of the biggest Nazi war criminals managed to escape from prison in Linz, Austria: Franz Stangl, former captain of the SS and commander of the Sobibor and Treblinka extermination camps, responsible for the deaths of nearly a million Jews. Stangl continued on foot, past Graz and Meran, towards Florence.




The papacy of Pius 12 began shortly before World War II and continued until his death in 1958
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His goal was 300 kilometers further south: Rome, Italy's capital, but specifically the seat of the Vatican. "You must be Franz Stangl, I've been waiting for you," so he was greeted by Roman Bishop Alois Hudal, who provided him with false papers.

With these documents, Franz Stangl fled to Syria, was followed by his family and emigrated from Damascus to Brazil in 1951. The man who perfected mass extermination in the concentration camps worked for years at the Volkswagen car factory near São Paulo.

The Austrian Franz Stangl is one of thousands of criminals and Nazi war collaborators who managed to escape with the help of the Church. Via the so-called "rat route": from Innsbruck, across the Alps towards Merano or Bozen in South Tyrol, then to Rome and from there to the Italian port city of Genoa.

Stangl chose the Syria diversion, as most Nazis fled by ship directly to South America, especially to Argentina - the "cable of last hope" for National Socialists, as Nazi hunter Simon Wiesenthal put it.

No elaborate plan, spontaneous collaboration

"The 'rat route' was not a well-structured system, but it consisted of many individual components," explains Daniel Stahl, professor of Modern and Contemporary History at Friedrich Schiller University in Jena. "It was more of a spontaneous cooperation between different institutions, which was gradually established after World War II." First, the escape across the Alps towards Italy, a loophole for 90% of Nazi perpetrators, was perfected.

Then came the first stop in South Tyrol. There, war criminals usually hid for several years - at the Teutonic Order monastery in Merano, the Capuchin monastery near Brixen, or the Franciscan monastery outside Bolzano (that's why the "rat route" is also called the "monasteries route") - collecting money to flee abroad.

Sometimes there was also the absurd situation in which the perpetrators were housed alongside the victims of National Socialism: Jews who wanted to go to Palestine.

From there it was on to Rome - if there was a letter from the Catholic Church attesting to identity, the passport of the International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC), which issued around 120,000 documents until 1951, was just a formality.

"The story is always told that there was a well-thought-out and well-conceived plan for the Nazi escape before the end of World War II. But this is wrong. Even a Franz Stangl initially wandered the streets of Rome not knowing what to do next. ", points out Stahl.

A lot happened through word of mouth. However, the name of Alois Hudal always appears, who later said he remembered that many of those being persecuted were "completely innocent", which is why he "liberated them from their executioners with false identification documents."

The same Austrian bishop clearly positioned himself as a sympathizer of National Socialism during the Third Reich. What would have happened if the Catholic Church had not protected many Nazi war criminals? "For Stangl and the others, it would have been much harder to escape," historian Daniel Stahl said he was right.

Long list of Nazi criminals fleeing the "rat route"

And with the new stopover in Genoa, the "rat route" developed as an escape route that was later used by the US secret service to smuggle spies into the Soviet Union. The list of mass murderers who went to South America is long, mainly to Argentina, the last country in the world to declare war on Germany (on March 27, 1945):

Adolf Eichmann

Like Riccardo Klement, the Holocaust organizer fled Bolzano to Argentina in 1950, later calling his family. In gratitude for the Vatican's help in his escape, Protestant Eichmann became a Catholic.

He worked sporadically as an electrician at the Daimler-Benz truck factory. In 1960, Eichmann was kidnapped in a spectacular operation carried out by the Israeli secret service Mossad. He was tried in Israel and executed on the night of May 31, 1962.

Josef Mengele

The sadistic doctor from the Auschwitz concentration camp fled to South Tyrol in 1949, where helpers got him a new passport. The new identity: Helmut Gregor, 38, Catholic, mechanic, born in the wine town of Tramin, in South Tyrol. With this, Mengele fulfilled the most important conditions for an escape: as a South Tyrolean, he was considered a stateless German, having therefore entitled to an International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) passport.

In South America, Mengele lived peacefully until his death, having lived in Argentina, Paraguay and Brazil. On February 7, 1979, he suffered a stroke and drowned on Bertioga beach, on the coast of São Paulo.

Klaus Barbie

Known as the "Butcher of Lyons," the former Gestapo chief in the French city left Romania for South America as Klaus Altmann. With the help of the CIA, Barbie obtained a visa for Bolivia in 1951 and continued to receive orders from the American intelligence agency as well as the Federal Information Service of Germany (BND).

His whereabouts have been publicly known since 1970. In 1983, Bolivia extradited him to France, where he was sentenced to life imprisonment and died in prison on 25 September 1991.

Erich Priebke

The SS captain, co-responsible for the massacre of 335 hostages in the Ardeatina caves near Rome in 1944, fled like Otto Pape from Latvia to Bariloche. Argentine authorities extradited him to Italy in 1995, where three years later he was sentenced to life in prison and died under house arrest on 11 October 2013.

Walther Rauff

Rauff was the inventor of a mobile gas chamber, in which exhaust gases were directed into the vehicle's interior. Under the arrest warrant, he committed at least 97,000 murders. In 1949, he fled with his wife and two children via the "rat route" to Quito, Ecuador, before moving to Chile.

The request for extradition from the former West Germany was rejected in 1963 because the crimes allegedly committed had prescribed by Chilean law. Rauff died of a heart attack on May 14, 1984 in Las Condes, Chile, as a wealthy canned food manufacturer.

How much did Pope Pius 12 know about the "rat route"?

Many historians have written about the "rat route," but one question has not been clearly answered to this day, 70 years later: How much did Pope Pius 12 know about this? Italian Eugenio Maria Giuseppe Giovanni Pacelli became pope on March 2, 1939, just before the outbreak of World War II, and exercised his pontificate until his death on October 9, 1958.

Hubert Wolf says he wants to find out. The ecclesiastical historian will spend four months in Rome rummaging through the Vatican archives along with dozens of other colleagues from around the world. Because on March 2, the Holy See will make accessible all the archives of the papacy of Pius.

"It is a great challenge and a great opportunity to answer many questions about that time. We are talking about 300,000, 400,000 archive units with a thousand sheets each", says the professor of ecclesiastical history at the University of Münster.

Such a Herculean task is nothing new to Wolf, who has already done research in the archives on the Inquisition and the Sacred Congregation of the Index. "In the face of 400 years of book bans, Pio's 20 years are manageable," explains the smiling historian. This also included finding absolutely nothing important for three weeks and suddenly tripping over a box that turns out to be a real gold mine.

Historian Wolf hopes to find answers

Hubert Wolf asks for patience, however, saying that a serious review of the files could take several years. But he hopes to find some answers to questions about the "rat route," especially about how internal communication proceeded within the Curia.

"The pope was giving direct instructions or there were only general indications, for example, that it was necessary to help undocumented people. Or is there any real indication that the pope, encouraged by the CIA, said: 'If only we could send trusted nationalists to countries Latin Americans, it would be good because there are communists there working to conquer the entire continent, see Cuba.'"

It is known that Pius 12 feared communism, something that has also been said by helpers to helpers of those who fled through the "rat route": no matter what the role of the Nazis during World War II, they fought against communism and , therefore, must be protected from political persecution - after all, communism was considered the greatest threat to the Catholic Church.

"It may be that in the end it turns out that the pope didn't know anything about concrete help and that some people took advantage of it shamelessly. Or that Pio knew everything and closed his eyes," ecclesiastical historian Wolf outlines the two possibilities that his research in the files may come to show.

According to Wolf, the most important question is therefore: "Was the pope manipulated or did he really know about people like Mengele? That would, however, really be a whole new dimension!"
 
Old August 30th, 2021 #2
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Walther Rauff

Rauff was the inventor of a mobile gas chamber, in which exhaust gases were directed into the vehicle's interior. Under the arrest warrant, he committed at least 97,000 murders. In 1949, he fled with his wife and two children via the "rat route" to Quito, Ecuador, before moving to Chile.

'gas vans mass murderer' SS Rauff worked for the Israelis

https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=4195


Graf debunks the laughable 'gas vans'

https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=8251


Gas Van Film and Photo Fraud

German News Magazine and Simon Wiesenthal Center's Museum Caught Faking Photo and Film Captions


by Santiago Alvarez

Published: 2014-04-25

https://codoh.com/library/document/g...hoto-fraud/en/
 
Old August 31st, 2021 #3
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I wonder who came up with the term “rat route” or “ratline.”

Was it the Vatican? The SS?

Or did the real rats coin it?
They seek us here, they seek us there -
Those jew-boys seek us everywhere.
Are we in Heaven or in Hell?
The damned elusive Schutzstaffel!
(Verse, signed “Odessa,” printed in The Free American, 1964)
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Old August 31st, 2021 #4
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Josef Mengele

The sadistic doctor from the Auschwitz concentration camp...
Josef Mengele is notorious for at Auschwitz allegedly being involved in the Holocaust, such as by being prominently involved in the selections regarding who would be gassed immediately on arrival and who would be used as forced laborers. He is also alleged to have been involved in various horrible human experiments on the prisoners. He is a very frequently recurring character in the claims of Holocaust "witnesses".

During the postwar period, to his son and in private writings, Mengele rejected that he had been involved in atrocities, and stated that he had instead saved many lives at Auschwitz.[1]

See the "External links" section regarding Holocaust revisionist criticisms of the allegations.

https://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Josef_Mengele
 
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Adolf Eichmann

Like Riccardo Klement, the Holocaust organizer fled Bolzano to Argentina in 1950, later calling his family. In gratitude for the Vatican's help in his escape, Protestant Eichmann became a Catholic....
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In the face of the formidable accusations thrown at a defeated Germany the revisionists have said to the accusers:

1) Show us one single document that, in your view, proves that Hitler or any other National-Socialist ordered and planned the physical extermination of the Jews;

2) Show us that weapon of mass destruction which, as alleged, was a gas chamber; show us a single one of them, at Auschwitz or elsewhere; and if, by chance, you claim that you cannot show us any because, according to you, the Germans destroyed the “murder weapon”, provide us at least with a technical drawing representing one of those slaughterhouses which, as you say, the Germans destroyed and explain to us how that weapon with such a fabulous killing performance had been able to work without bringing on the death of either those who ran it or their helpers;

3) Explain to us how you have arrived at your figure of six million victims.

However, in over sixty years, the Jewish or non-Jewish accusing historians have shown themselves to be incapable of offering a response to these requests. Thus they have been accusing without any evidence. That is what is called slander.
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The SS captain, co-responsible for the massacre of 335 hostages in the Ardeatina caves near Rome in 1944, fled like Otto Pape from Latvia to Bariloche. Argentine authorities extradited him to Italy in 1995
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A German SS-officer, Erich Priebke, had been captured in an Italian prison
Regina Coel and since that he has been in house-arrest, without any sort of
human rights - 13 years.Hauptsturmführer Erich Priebke was condemned
of a "crime" when he served as a legal German army officer, true to his oath
he had given for the Deutschen Reich. As a soldier he followed the orders,
according to the legal rights under the reign of martial law.

So did - and still do - the soldiers of other countries in combat. But Erich
Priebke's crime was that he was on the opponent side to the winning forces of
war, on the side of the defeated. None of the winners had ever been punished,
although they did the same, and even more, what in Priebke's case, since
defeated, was regarded as a crime - not by justice, but by hateful revenge.

In March 1944, Marshall Kesselring ordered the so called retaliation of
Ardeatine and punished the criminals who committed a terrorist strike
against German soldiers.
Marshall Kesselring was not punished after the war,
neither were other. But most of all: Remember honestly and seriously what
happens right now in our days in the name of "war against terror"!

It is pure injustice and nothing but a hateful shame and a disgrace for any
civilised nation to punish only one soldier of a "crime" and keep him as a
prisoner - now, that it's been 61 years since the end of war, now, that this
brave and truthful man is turning 93 years old! We still have to remember
that Hauptsturmführer Erich Priebke did nothing but follow his given orders,
which again followed the laws of the Deutsche Reich as well as they followed
the international martial law.

After the war Erich Priebke moved to Argentina, where he lived with his wife
and children honourable and honest life. After 50 years he was deported to Italy.

Hauptsturmführer Erich Priebke never denied his part in Ardeatine, but take
it on consider, he acted as a soldier when he filled the orders, and he
acted according the proven rights by martial law. Erich Priebke is still a
prisoner of war by the allied forces; He is Europe's last prisoner of war
and Europe's oldest prisoner.
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I wonder who came up with the term “rat route” or “ratline.”

Was it the Vatican? The SS?

Or did the real rats coin it?
No, it was an agreement between the "liberators" and the Jewish delegates.

Here you can find the Dutch version of this.
Here the Message translated by Google.

 
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I just want to clarify that the charges against the SS officers are based on falsehoods that the International Left has created.

The purpose of this thread is just to show the routes that SS officers took after World War II, and how the Vatican contributed to helping them.
 
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and how the Vatican contributed to helping them.
I see what you mean, but the Vatican (as most "representatives" of the sect of "elect") eats into this from both sides.

National Socialism and religion do not follow the same path. You cannot be loyal to your people and belong to a sect (these are two different things that "bite" each other).

Religion, whichever it is, is none of our business (so don't expect anything from it).
 
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I see what you mean, but the Vatican (as most "representatives" of the sect of "elect") eats into this from both sides.

National Socialism and religion do not follow the same path. You cannot be loyal to your people and belong to a sect (these are two different things that "bite" each other).

Religion, whichever it is, is none of our business (so don't expect anything from it).


Yes, Comrade Johan, I understand perfectly and the VNN Forum makes this very clear in its principles.

For my part - this is my particular way - I do not participate in public religious rituals and cults in temples, and just enrich myself with culture, art and philosophy, from various sources.
 
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I do not participate in religious rituals, cults and meetings, which are led by priests and pastors.

As I said, I just enrich myself with culture, art and philosophy, from various sources.

I have my own religious, cultural and ideological behavior.
 
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Leftist Globalism has penetrated almost 100% into the current doctrine and practice of the Catholic Church, Orthodox Church and Protestant churches as never before.

It is absolutely impossible to be a White Nationalist and at the same time profess one of these religions.

Professing any of these Religions means helping to exterminate the Nations founded by Whites.

The real Jesus Christ is what is taught by Jörg Lanz von Liebenfels, and the genuine Christian is strictly the New Templar of Liebenfels, as it is in the magazine Ostara and the book Theozoology.

The Catholic Church, the Orthodox Church and the Protestant Churches, with their priests and pastors, must serve us politically for a while, out of political strategy, and then they must disappear.


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