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Show me any law under any judicial system in which it is explicitdly stated that a criminal conviction can not be atained via eyewitness testimony alone? C'mon Bitch, prove it!! Shit, for that matter, tell us the legal definition of intentional evidence. Here, I'll make it easy. Federal Rules of Evidence (2007) http://www.law.cornell.edu/rules/fre/ Show us the legal definition of intentional evidence under the fedearl rules and how it is applied in criminal courts.
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Well,Rabbi, as someone who had worked for years in the criminal court system I can tell you that if the prosecution had to rely solely on eyewitness testimony they would never get a conviction, assuming the defense attorney was competent of course! No evidence is more easily discredited and debunked than that of the eyewitness, even if they think they're telling the truth! Sans corroborating evidence even the eyewitness testimony of the police can be demonstrated to be unreliable and impeachable! Imagine how easy it would be to call into question the veracity of a lying kike! Chew on that foreskin for awhile, Rabbi! LOL!
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I'll not argue with you, Rabbi, as only White men are worthy of debate, just as only White men are worthy of the Common Law!
The only purpose you serve to those of us here, Rabbi, is as a foil, on exhibition, to be poked and prodded like a particularly nasty and loathsome annelid in a petri dish! The only legitimate argument I could ever conceive of you and I having would be very direct and to the point: Bullet or rope, Rabbi? The way things ought to be!
LOL at the idea that Germans would need a kike to tell them how to build something!LOL also at the ridiculousness of the notion of a yiddish she-brew getting her smegma-dips dirty by being physically involved with constructing something useful! Great scene though, gets funnier every time I see it! I should post this in the Tales of the Holy Hoax thread!
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My favorite scene from that Spielberg shitfest is the chicken scene
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A Dictionary of Psychology | Date: 2001 eyewitness testimony n. Evidence of events that occurred, actions that were performed, or words that were spoken, given in court by a person who observed the events or actions at first hand or heard the words being spoken. See also eyewitness misinformation effect, false memory, weapon focus. © A Dictionary of Psychology 2001, originally published by Oxford University Press 2001. Related newspaper, magazine, and journal articles from HighBeam Research Detectives get a lesson on faulty testimony; Learn techniques to avoid sending innocent to jail The Patriot Ledger Quincy, MA; 7/16/2004; Sara Perkins; SARA PERKINS; 595 words ; The Patriot Ledger Few people can speak on the fallibility of eyewitness testimony with as much authority as Jennifer Thompson Cannino. Cannino, now 33, confidently identified her attacker after a 1984 rape, only to be told, in 1995, that the man she had sent to jail for life had been exonerated by Read more EYEWITNESS ACCOUNTS CARRY LESS WEIGHT IN COURT.(FRONT) The Virginian Pilot; 11/21/1999; Dolan, Matthew; 1530 words ; Byline: MATTHEW DOLAN, STAFF WRITER NORFOLK -- Elizabeth Simmons looked squarely at James Rodney Brown and knew he was the one. Simmons testified that Brown robbed her at gunpoint at the Be-Lo store where she worked the register on May 3, 1998. Her manager, Keri Howard, backed up Simmons' Read more A Matter of Memory The Washington Post; 6/23/2000; 158 words ; Neither more available DNA testing nor higher standards for defense lawyers will solve the problem of wrongful death sentences based on eyewitness testimony [editorial, June 12]. DNA testing is useless unless biological material is available to test. This is frequently the case in sex crimes, but Read more Pelo defense loses fight over expert The Pantagraph Bloomington, IL; 4/8/2008; Edith Brady-Lunny; 436 words ; BLOOMINGTON - An expert expected to testify about the reliability of eyewitness testimony will not be allowed to testify at the upcoming trial of a former Bloomington police officer accused of sexually assaulting four women, a judge ruled Monday. Jeff Pelo, a 43-year-old former police sergeant Read more Expert testimony: Does eyewitness memory research have probative value for the courts? Canadian Psychology; 5/1/2001; A Daniel Yarmey; 6830 words ; Abstract Case studies, and more recently DNA testing in the United States, have shown that mistaken eyewitness identification is responsible for more wrongful convictions than all other causes combined. It is argued that scientific laboratory and field research can contribute to the court's better Read more Mitigating the dangers of capital convictions based on eyewitness testimony through treason's two-witness rule. Journal of Criminal Law and Criminology; 3/22/2001; Jain, Monika; 13088 words ; ... issue in the United States, due to the news of the high number of innocents being released ... from prison and from death row. (1) This news is even forcing proponents of capital punishment ... Innocents Freed by Students, THE OBSERVER NEWS, July 7, 1996, at 21. (48) Williams, 588 ... Read more Eyewitness accounts often inaccurate, study finds New Haven Register; 6/21/2004; Abram Katz; 610 words ; Victims who get a good long look at violent criminals are unlikely to identify them accurately later, Yale and U.S. Navy researchers have found. This caveat follows from a unique study of 509 Navy and Marine officers undergoing elite survival training at Fort Bragg, N.C. Results suggest that police Read more Demjanjuk attorneys say judge ignored eyewitnesses Cleveland Jewish News; 4/19/2002; Karfeld, Marilyn H.; 579 words ; ... evidence to the defense. Prosecutors filed the current case in 1999, relying on Soviet-captured Nazi documents made available after the collapse of communism. The two-week trial was held last May. Article copyright the Cleveland Jewish News. V.84; Read more A tripartite solution to eyewitness error. Journal of Criminal Law and Criminology; 3/22/2007; Wise, Richard A. Dauphinais, Kirsten A. Safer, Martin A.; 27816 words ; I. INTRODUCTION The vagaries of eyewitness identification are well-known; the annals of criminal law are rife with instances of mistaken identification. (1) [W]e regularly sentence innocent people to death. So the underlying question remains: Considering all the attention we devote to death penalty Read more Spielberg's 'The Last Days': Eyewitness testimony and horrific Cleveland Jewish News; 2/19/1999; 678 words ; Cleveland Jewish News 02-19-1999 SPIELBERG'S `The Last Days': Eyewitness testimony and horrific archival footage mark fate of Hungarian Jews during Holocaust ... Read more See all related premium articles Related entries from encyclopedias, dictionaries, and thesauruses eyewitness misinformation effect A Dictionary of Psychology eyewitness misinformation effect n. A phenomenon whereby misleading post-event information distorts an eyewitness's recall of an event, as when a victim of a sexual assault who is subsequently told that an arrested suspect ... perpetrator's arm. The effect may be caused by the post-event information overwriting the ... Read more witness The Oxford Pocket Thesaurus of Current English ... statements from witnesses | a witness to the accident synonyms : eyewitness, observer, spectator, onlooker, looker-on, viewer, watcher ... clothes were witness of his poverty synonyms : evidence, testimony, confirmation, corroboration, proof. phrases: bear witness ... to bear witness synonyms : give evidence, ... Read more Piaget kidnapping memory A Dictionary of Psychology ... 1896–1980) and reproduced in English translation by the US psychologist Elizabeth F. Loftus in her book Eyewitness Testimony (1979): ‘I was sitting in my pram, which my nurse was pushing in the Champs Élysées, when a man ... past in the form of a visual memory’ (pp. 62–3) ... . Read more Impeachment American Decades ... new job had nothing to do with her testimony in the Jones case. The congressman ... events at the time of the sworn testimony. 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Again "intentional evidence" as defined by English Common Law, is still a matter of debate in legal circles and holds no validity when a jew tries to apply such evidence to shore up holocaustian claims. Such "intentional evidence", as I stated before is generally applied to financial misconduct; credit card fraud, debt fraud ect, and, it is no surprise that the majority of criminals involved in these "white collar crimes" are jews. http://www2.warwick.ac.uk/fac/soc/la...003_2/allinson http://www.springerlink.com/content/6uqgx2t39mn1202b/ http://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=...viewport&shm=1 http://64.233.169.104/search?q=cache...lnk&cd=7&gl=us Last edited by EireannGoddess; July 28th, 2008 at 11:38 PM. |
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Looks like Roberta has tucked tail and ran back to HC (Hysterical and Cowardly HIV Contagious Homosexual Creeps espousing Holocaust Claptrap and other Historical Canards). It seems the following questions were just too much for her to handle:
Now, here's what we're waiting for retardo to do: Tell us on what dates his partner shermer was physically in the Sobibor camp. Show us photographs that prove he was in said camps on said dates. Tell us on what dates his other partner Kola was physically in the Sobibor camp. Show us photographs that prove he was in said camp on said dates. Show us photographs of Kola excavating the alleged graves. Show us photographs proving that said graves actually exist. Tell us what Polish government entity that commissioned Kola's "work." Tell us what the results were of the analysis of those soil core samples that she claims are: "ashes of human bone and tissue for the light gray stuff, wood ashes for the black stuff and pure bone ashes or lime for the white stuff." Show us proof that the "huge ash mountain" of Sobibor is actually comprised of human ash. Show us were the huge pit is that this "mountain of human ash" was dug out of. And last - but certainly not least, we're waiting for Roberta to publish, in "SKEPTIC" magazine, proof that there exists just one mass grave that contains just one percent of the alleged mass murder at Sobibor and Treblinka. Just one camp - just one mass grave - just one percent. Just one Roberta. One. What are you waiting for Roberta? (After all, you do want to put an end to holocaust denial - don't you?) Are you some kind of coward Roberta, or what? Now, let’s remind everyone what the mentally ill jewbitch wrote earlier: Quote: Originally Posted by Gerdes She hasn't been able to even prove that the "huge mass grave" of Sobibor exists; Roberta: “Actually I’m able to prove the existence of all of these mass graves by simply referring to Prof. Kola’s description.” Yes Roberta, could you tell us again what Kola “described” finding in the “huge mass graves” of Sobibor? Roberta: “Proof is contained in Prof. Kola’s published report about his findings on site, and in the documentary and eyewitness evidence about the mass killings at Sobibor, which is compatible with Kola’s findings.” And what were Kola’s findings again Roberta? And where can we find this published report? Roberta: “This proof is and has been accepted by historians and criminal investigators, Gerdes. So unless you can show relevant rules or standards of evidence that these people did not comply with or strong indications of evidence manipulation, it is proof for the purpose of our discussion as well (and may even be considered proof for the purpose of meeting your "challenge" by a court of law, so better be more specific about what kind of proof you want – that’s well meaning advice)... Because Prof. Kola said so and there’s no reason to doubt the statements of this renowned archeologist, especially as they are also in line with what all other known evidence tells us about Sobibor… And the reason to doubt the archeologist’s public statement that would support this "allegedly" is?” And what did Kola say again Roberta? Oh, and please give us a list of the "historians and criminal investigators" that have "accepted" this alleged "proof." BTW Roberta, why do you keep running from this queation about the core samples of Sobibor: What do the frauds at the Sobibor Archaeology Project say it is? They’re the ones who analysed the core samples – right? They DID analyse the core samples – didn't they Roberta? Thank you Roberta. (Have I ever told you that you're priceless?) |
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Please notice Roberta's continued refusal to answer the following. It seems the following questions were just too much for her to handle:
Now, here's what we're waiting for retardo to do: Tell us on what dates his partner shermer was physically in the Sobibor camp. Show us photographs that prove he was in said camps on said dates. Tell us on what dates his other partner Kola was physically in the Sobibor camp. Show us photographs that prove he was in said camp on said dates. Show us photographs of Kola excavating the alleged graves. Show us photographs proving that said graves actually exist. Tell us what Polish government entity that commissioned Kola's "work." Tell us what the results were of the analysis of those soil core samples that she claims are: "ashes of human bone and tissue for the light gray stuff, wood ashes for the black stuff and pure bone ashes or lime for the white stuff." Show us proof that the "huge ash mountain" of Sobibor is actually comprised of human ash. Show us were the huge pit is that this "mountain of human ash" was dug out of. And last - but certainly not least, we're waiting for Roberta to publish, in "SKEPTIC" magazine, proof that there exists just one mass grave that contains just one percent of the alleged mass murder at Sobibor and Treblinka. Just one camp - just one mass grave - just one percent. Just one Roberta. One. What are you waiting for Roberta? (After all, you do want to put an end to holocaust denial - don't you?) Are you some kind of coward Roberta, or what? Now, let’s remind everyone what the mentally ill jewbitch wrote earlier: Quote: Originally Posted by Gerdes She hasn't been able to even prove that the "huge mass grave" of Sobibor exists; Roberta: “Actually I’m able to prove the existence of all of these mass graves by simply referring to Prof. Kola’s description.” Yes Roberta, could you tell us again what Kola “described” finding in the “huge mass graves” of Sobibor? Roberta: “Proof is contained in Prof. Kola’s published report about his findings on site, and in the documentary and eyewitness evidence about the mass killings at Sobibor, which is compatible with Kola’s findings.” And what were Kola’s findings again Roberta? And where can we find this published report? Roberta: “This proof is and has been accepted by historians and criminal investigators, Gerdes. So unless you can show relevant rules or standards of evidence that these people did not comply with or strong indications of evidence manipulation, it is proof for the purpose of our discussion as well (and may even be considered proof for the purpose of meeting your "challenge" by a court of law, so better be more specific about what kind of proof you want – that’s well meaning advice)... Because Prof. Kola said so and there’s no reason to doubt the statements of this renowned archeologist, especially as they are also in line with what all other known evidence tells us about Sobibor… And the reason to doubt the archeologist’s public statement that would support this "allegedly" is?” And what did Kola say again Roberta? Oh, and please give us a list of the "historians and criminal investigators" that have "accepted" this alleged "proof." BTW Roberta, why do you keep running from this queation about the core samples of Sobibor: What do the frauds at the Sobibor Archaeology Project say it is? They’re the ones who analysed the core samples – right? They DID analyse the core samples – didn't they Roberta? Thank you Roberta. (BTW Roberta, have I ever told you that you're priceless?) |
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http://www.vnnforum.com/showpost.php...&postcount=866 If what it takes for you to "put up or shut up" when it comes to Herr Gerdes challenge is your insistent threat to continue to verbally and deliberately abuse a female Member of this Forum, then so be it. Where is your evidence. Your proof. When can Herr Gerdes expect to find it in his mail-box. An approximate date, if not a specific one will be fine. Last edited by EireannGoddess; July 29th, 2008 at 01:22 PM. |
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The first of my above-quoted statement either refers to Prof. Kola’s report about Belzec (in which case Gerdes has at best shown once more how stupid he is), or uses the term "published" in a sense that includes a public press statement, whereas the latter does not (in which case the same applies). How about providing links to the posts where I made the quoted statements, Mr. Gerdes? The context usually cuts your allegations to pieces, which is why you like to throw out-of-context snippets around, right? Quote:
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