RFM Debate: Brad Griffin ("Hunter Wallace") and Alex Linder

[Max_]

Originally Posted by Alex Linder

Unlike you, apparently, I've actually known a number of men who started corporations from nothing and bult them into something.

Were they/are they White Nationalists?

[Alex Linder]

Originally Posted by Rick Ronsavelle

Ego defense more likely, due to lack of real ego. Insecurity and inferiority, covered up. Like others use tattoos as a cover-up. Inability to tolerate criticism is not from strength. Challenging others to fist-fight- the same.

Touchy vanity of the insecure.

Exactly right. And if this type had any self-insight, it would know this.

[Henry.]

Originally Posted by Max_

Do you think he votes?

I doubt it. I think all that's on his mind is his shiny black motor car and the niggers who play for his team.

He was reading a football magazine that looked to be filled with pictures of black players and their white 'WAGS'

Like millions out there, he's gone...dead.

[Alex Linder]

Originally Posted by Thomas777

Well, a Jew's money is as good as anybody else's money. So there shouldn't be an issue on your end. Werner Sombart made this point quite cogently.

You can't worship the market and simultaneously claim that Jews are the enemy.

"Worship the market"? No one worship the market. That's a straw man of the usual sort created by failure fans, ie socialists.

[Alex Linder]

Originally Posted by Steven L. Akins

And the Abolitionists used the Bible as justification for freeing the slaves.

As I pointed out earlier, Christians twist what the Bible says to suit their own agenda, whatever it happens to be at the time.

Best to convey this is Shakespeare:

Origin: Spoken by Antonio in "The Merchant of Venice", written by William Shakespeare (1564-1616):

Mark you this, Bassanio,
The devil can cite Scripture for his purpose.
An evil soul producing holy witness
Is like a villain with a smiling cheek,
A goodly apple rotten at the heart:
O, what a goodly outside falsehood hath!

The only justification I need for doing something is the fact that I want to.

I don't have to look in a book to see if it is okay with some imaginary Jewish god, I just do whatever I want, as long as I can get away with it.

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[Heather Blue]

Originally Posted by varg

I know using bible quotes isn't the best way to prove a point, and that often times it can be used to mean anything the person interrupting it wants.

But how can you ignore this and say that it's a religion serving Aryans? It seems pretty direct to me. If you want to say that it's not Jesus's word, that's fine, but you have to accept that your holy book is lying then. Either way it's harmful for whites.

http://bible.cc/romans/3-29.htm
Romans 3:29 Is God the God of Jews only? Is he not the God of Gentiles too? Yes, of Gentiles too,
http://bible.cc/galatians/3-28.htm
Galatians 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.
http://bible.cc/romans/10-12.htm
Romans 10:12 For there is no difference between Jew and Gentile--the same Lord is Lord of all and richly blesses all who call on him,
http://bible.cc/matthew/27-37.htm
Matthew 27:37 Above his head they placed the written charge against him: THIS IS JESUS, THE KING OF THE JEWS.
http://bible.cc/matthew/27-11.htm
Matthew 27:11 Meanwhile Jesus stood before the governor, and the governor asked him, "Are you the king of the Jews?" "Yes, it is as you say," Jesus replied.

Well varg, since you are using Bible verses.... First, the Creator is the Lord of all. And Jesus did say He was King of the Jews which enraged them. It was galling that He dared considered Himself superior to them. Just like it is galling to them that the White Race is superior to them.

Luke 19:27. But those mine enemies which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me. - King James Version (1611) The Jews are certainly His enemies, but everybody ignores what He cammanded us to do.

It is right and just to get rid of the Jews. But I will not argue with you guys. I know when I can't win.

[Max_]

Originally Posted by KraftAkt

All people are that way. That is one of your flaws in your argumentation against christianity. If you take christianity away, you do not get people who suddenly use reason and thinking and listen to what you have to say. No, they are still sheeple, just the herder becomes someone else.

I hypothesise that one of the key differences between 'smart' people, and everyone else, is their ability to formulate a big picture. Information is serious business for them, they assimilate or reject it as they see fit, making amendments to their world view to maintain a high degree of integrity, and then act within relation to this. Ideally this will backed up by an excellent ability to process information, an excellent memory, and a high degree of self control.

Most people however, seem to be more instinctual by nature and seem to "bundle" information. Which is why they can have so many contradictory stances on so many things, without even realising it.

I guess what I'm saying is that, even if white nationalism was to go big, and it probably will, you won't suddenly have this huge population of really hawk eyed cerebral guys, who don't miss a trick, you will likely get a flood of half assed white nationalists who will still not really get it outside of basic instinctual tribalism and natural rejection of the threats brought about by nonwhite immigration.

So yeah, like you said, remove christianity and you will still have mental weaklings.

I think it is for this reason that I really want white nationalists, the ones who are white nationalists at this time and place, to get organised and get ready to take some kind of commanding role in time for the backlash, or at least get themselves into a position where their success will not depend solely on the backlash, because if we simply let the average joes solve the problem, the solution, while likely simple and effective, will be half assed and likely usher in a new era of problems to plague our civilisations.

I suppose it is understandable that so many cerebral types fall victim to some kind of social-deterministic attitudes, often "enlightenment" because it gives them hope that they will somehow be able to cultivate the minds of the arseholes that often surround them, converting them into people they would find less troublesome and thus finally escape the freezing isolation of being the only one that spots the nonsense.

Truth is though, like most social determinism, it's unrealistic. Cuddling will not fix the psychopath, pictures of hot girl will not turn a faggot straight, and forcing a negro to wear a top hat and tails will not make him an upstanding gentleman.

Getting rid of christianity, like getting rid of marxism, won't get rid of human stupidity.

That said, I do feel that Whites should create a culture tailor made to bring out the best in them, and a good start would be exposing as many of the lies as possible.

[Alex Linder]

Originally Posted by KraftAkt

Fuck America.

It'll take more than your teensy vienna sausage to fill our hallway, Peabo.

[Alex Linder]

Originally Posted by Thomas777

Rent-seeking corporations see to it the the govt. wages wars and ''props up niggers''.

Not accurate. Standard leftist dogma. No corporations wanted our endless jewish wars except the security corps associated with pols who started them. The oil companies most notably were against the wars.

You've got some delusion that the average corporation in a modern state is some kind of highly-efficient, competitive, innovative enterprise that creates great wealth and generates massive trickle down returns; tantamount to Ford Motor Company or US Steel at their zenith.

Not at all. I've worked for/with/against all levels of corporations. They're in bed with government now, the large ones, to get unbid contracts and lock out opponents or raise barriers to entry.

That's why getting rid of regulation is the right thing to do. Regulation is the god of you socialists, and it's as ridiculous a god as jebus.

Yeah verily there is no safety. Everything is buyer beware, with regulation or without. Regulation = higher costs. That's all.

The actual reality of advanced capitalism is rent-seeking, incestuous co-mingling of capital between the public coffers and private enterprise, a revolving door that allows elites to leap between bureaucracies without conflict of interest, tremendous inefficiency, and an overvaluation of finance over production.

That's due to government being involved in regulating every aspect of the country, starting with money, which it counterfeits. Get government out of, say, medicine, and you would see an incredible flourishing of full-spectrum offerings.

When government is 50% of the economy, of course the large firms are going to be sucked into bidding for its contracts. Then guys like you turn around and blame business. Socialism and regulation are the problem, not the market.

[Craig Cobb]

Heather

Well varg, since you are using Bible verses.... First, the Creator is the Lord of all. And Jesus did say He was King of the Jews which enraged them. It was galling that He dared considered Himself superior to them.

Does it occur to you that the verbal, myth-making, Red Sea parting, vipers from staffs, David Copperfield fake name magicians, goat herding story tellers, and urban thieves who pilpul, hasbarraged the bible and their peddling way through 130 or so countries just might have managed to build in a 'literary' series of double-triple-quadruple-quintuple binds to bamboozle simpletons for their own tribal manipulative purposes? How wonderful would it be to have 2 billion suckers figure that god knew you are on thin ice too for thinking badly of his own, but in the meantime, your personal test is not to openly cross god's milleniums testee cock-a-roach-racing pets?

[Alex Linder]

Originally Posted by Henry.

Both NS and fascism recognised the worth of entrepreneurs and the need to encourage and assist them. This is in marked contrast to the attitude of the Marxists who painted industrial capitalists as devils but ignored the evil of finance capitalists who leave nothing but debt and misery in their wake.

Jews employ their linguistic abilities to fashion words, debt, and misery - often through war. It's all they can do. It's all they have ever done.

We don't need these life sucking parasites. They keep us earthbound when we should be shooting for the stars..

I'm not NS, but I agree with what you said above. Hitler sold postcards he painted; he understood life from a small artist or businessman's perspective.

My view is that average man is not owed health, education and welfare as some kind of right from the government. Those are his business to create and provide through his own effort and voluntary arrangements with others.

Government is not a garden weasel, it's a fucking gun. It has one purpose, and that is to keep the enemy at bay.

As races are at war, very often, government at the highest level is for what people can't do for themselves - defend their kind.

What the common man deserves from the goverment is money competition, ensuring there is no centralized counterfeiting that enslaves him by stealing his purchasing power, and also insures he can save money and thereby get ahead materially. Anything else the government undertakes to do for him will turn him into a white nigger, a dependent. White people are just like bears that have learned to hang out around human dumpsters. People today cannot conceive today of doing/getting anything save through some government office.

[Alex Linder]

Originally Posted by Max_

Were they/are they White Nationalists?

They were conservatives; I don't know what their racial views were. Of course the head of any corp over 50 employees would be nuts to make any kind of racial statement thanks to employment and discrimination law.

[Henry.]

There's nothing wrong with a market where material goods are exchanged for monetary tokens but the financial markets where the of value stocks and shares are extended and contracted often due to nothing more than a rumour are a cancer eating away at the real wealth of society.

[KraftAkt]

Originally Posted by Alex Linder

It'll take more than your tiny German sausage to fill our hallway, Peabo.

But as the old chinese proverb says: "Every dick helps".

I'm glad to assist in this worthwhile endeavor.

[Alex Linder]

Originally Posted by Max_

I hypothesise that one of the key differences between 'smart' people, and everyone else, is their ability to formulate a big picture. Information is serious business for them, they assimilate or reject it as they see fit, making amendments to their world view to maintain a high degree of integrity, and then act within relation to this. Ideally this will backed up by an excellent ability to process information, an excellent memory, and a high degree of self control.

Most people however, seem to be more instinctual by nature and seem to "bundle" information. Which is why they can have so many contradictory stances on so many things, without even realising it.

I guess what I'm saying is that, even if white nationalism was to go big, and it probably will, you won't suddenly have this huge population of really hawk eyed cerebral guys, who don't miss a trick, you will likely get a flood of half assed white nationalists who will still not really get it outside of basic instinctual tribalism and natural rejection of the threats brought about by nonwhite immigration.

So yeah, like you said, remove christianity and you will still have mental weaklings.

I think it is for this reason that I really want white nationalists, the ones who are white nationalists at this time and place, to get organised and get ready to take some kind of commanding role in time for the backlash, or at least get themselves into a position where their success will not depend solely on the backlash, because if we simply let the average joes solve the problem, the solution, while likely simple and effective, will be half assed and likely usher in a new era of problems to plague our civilisations.

I suppose it is understandable that so many cerebral types fall victim to some kind of social-deterministic attitudes, often "enlightenment" because it gives them hope that they will somehow be able to cultivate the minds of the arseholes that often surround them, converting them into people they would find less troublesome and thus finally escape the freezing isolation of being the only one that spots the nonsense.

Truth is though, like most social determinism, it's unrealistic. Cuddling will not fix the psychopath, pictures of hot girl will not turn a faggot straight, and forcing a negro to wear a top hat and tails will not make him an upstanding gentleman.

Getting rid of christianity, like getting rid of marxism, won't get rid of human stupidity.

That said, I do feel that Whites should create a culture tailor made to bring out the best in them, and a good start would be exposing as many of the lies as possible.

People will still understand things by crude labels and categories, but they'll be a lot more accurate than what we have now. Over time, perhaps a higher quality of human can be produced through various means. I don't see a reason to doubt it, distaste for eugenics fans aside, because it works with other animals.

[Alex Linder]

Originally Posted by Henry.

There's nothing wrong with a market where material goods are exchanged for monetary tokens but the financial markets where the of value stocks and shares are extended and contracted often due to nothing more than a rumour are a cancer eating away at the real wealth of society.

That's wrong. The problem is the government regulates the stock market and the regulators bail out their buddies who lose. The stock market itself is not an inherently bad thing as NS contend. The inherently bad things are government debasing the currency by diluting pruchasing power through counterfeiting and the government using that stolen purchasing power to bail out its friends who speculated and lost.

[Alex Linder]

Originally Posted by KraftAkt

But as the old chinese proverb says: "Every dick helps".

I'm glad to assist in this worthwhile endeavor.

Well, you better get a lot more friends, cuz we're tired of asking if it's in yet.

[KraftAkt]

Originally Posted by Alex Linder

Well, you better get a lot more friends, cuz we're tired of asking if it's in yet.

Its coming!

[KraftAkt]

Originally Posted by Craig Cobb

Heather, you know you'd be attractive if you'd lose the mazel tov rabbit's foot boyfriend.

If you can't see that Heather is a highly attractive woman then there is something wrong with what you seek in a woman. Also because of her religion. I'm sure her husband must be a happy man. At least he should be!

[RFM]

Whether love, war, politics or business, strategy is the number one fundamental organizational principle. And yet it does not receive the attention it merits here in this thread but rather it's a free-for-all.

Brad and Alex,

How do you define strategy? Is your strategy more akin to a

business strategy

Business_strategy

a

military strategy

Military_strategy

or a

political strategy

Political_strategy

?

I've noted mostly scattered intellectual arguments but nothing in the way of a unified consolidated master strategic plan, e.g., referencing a Majority Rights url.