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Old January 25th, 2011 #61
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Santorum further compares Obama's response to the question of when life began as "above my pay grade" with Stephen Douglas, the Democratic presidential candidate who lost to Abraham Lincoln in 1860 and who, he wrote, had a "don't care" attitude toward the question of personhood for blacks.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...a-civil-right/
Santorum is a coin-operated catholic, and the jews are the ones filling his slots. So claims catholic intellectual E. Michael Jones.
 
Old January 25th, 2011 #62
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Rosenberg might have been onto something with his Positive Christianity.

Who knows how far that may have gone if Nazi Germany had continued on is anybody's guess. I suppose it's a lot like Christian Identity though ("Jeebus was from Galilee, a Nordic enclave!").

http://www.gnosticliberationfront.co...red_rosenb.htm
It's not like CI in the least.
 
Old January 25th, 2011 #63
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It's also interesting that you use a term few of us do, without even noticing the inherent contradiction in purported white supremacists worshipping a jew as the son of God. Then when an OTPTT tries to triangulate around that, he just amplifies the loony Christian mentality that we want no part of. I have far more regard for a Christian like Jones, who fights the "culture wars" within his own church and doesn't pretend to be something he's not or appeal to a nonexistent unity.
Religion is science for dumb people. Anyone can pray. Anyone can believe. But not everyone can think. Hence, the christ cult, or some other cult, will always be more popular than science.

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Old January 25th, 2011 #64
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It's also interesting that you use a term few of us do, without even noticing the inherent contradiction in purported white supremacists worshipping a jew as the son of God. Then when an OTPTT tries to triangulate around that, he just amplifies the loony Christian mentality that we want no part of. I have far more regard for a Christian like Jones, who fights the "culture wars" within his own church and doesn't pretend to be something he's not or appeal to a nonexistent unity.
Note also that Jones has pegged Jared Taylor as a jew frontman, the head of a jew-operated White NAACP. That is more than Kevin MacDonald or any other White intellectual leader has been able to figure out. Jones is invaluable in the solid history he provides, and its easy to fill in the holes his Catholic ideology leaves behind.
 
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It's also interesting that you use a term few of us do, without even noticing the inherent contradiction in purported white supremacists worshipping a jew as the son of God. Then when an OTPTT tries to triangulate around that, he just amplifies the loony Christian mentality that we want no part of. I have far more regard for a Christian like Jones, who fights the "culture wars" within his own church and doesn't pretend to be something he's not or appeal to a nonexistent unity.
The funny thing about Tony is that the, yes, paranoia that has him seeing jews in fast food bags flies out the window when it comes to Boozus. The real Tony would immediately spot the church founding on "Paul" who was actually a jew named Saul. The real Tony would be on that shit in a split second.
 
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Some of these atheists and other assorted morons who have absolutely zero knowledge of God
"Knowledge of god" - christ. Every two-bit gutter crank and asylum lunatic has a "knowledge" of god, just ask 'em. And who's to say they're wrong? That's the beauty and appeal of goddism - it's thinking with the net down. Absolutely zero standards, zero falsifiability, everyone can play, no one can lose, participation trophies for just showing up. Crank garbage that leads the white man nowhere if his mission is to regain control of his lands.

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Christianity is much greater than the little boxes that foolish men construct to contain it. Why else are there so many sects of Christians? Why? Because none of the boxes ever built can hold all of Christianity's truth.
I gotta admit, I got a genuine belly laugh out this, and thank you for it. But seriously, this is bullshit worthy of a jew. All we ever do is quote you lunatics and your homosexual pastards and you fly into a frothing apoplexy of "thass not what it really means." Every christ lunatic knows he and his school alone are the "real" christians. Funny how no one ever says that about actual truths. There is no school claiming 2+2 = 4 is bullshit and "real" mathematicians know otherwise.

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The Roman Catholic container wasn't big enough for it. The Protestant container wasn't big enough for it. The Orthodox container wasn't big enough for it. And the list goes on from Marianism and the Gnostics to Mary Baker Eddie and the Mormons. None of these great movements could contain all that Christianity offers the world.
Crank crank crank crank crank crank crank.

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So, of what import do these pitiful little twerps who claim to be mighty atheists and godlessly wise "White Nationalists" have that is so great? Absolutely nothing. But the strange thing is, even though they have nothing to offer, they still can fill the void of their ignorance with wordy reams of nonsense and opinionated bullshit, all designed to mock what they can otherwise not, themselves, understand.
Why waste your time with these losers? We don't go to crank forums and tell them they're cranks. It's a waste of time. Those of genetic deficiency large enough to make christ-insanity attractive are mostly unsalvageable, and the ones that are will find their way here, sooner or later.

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White Nationalism can go nowhere without a knowledge of Godly things. Perhaps this is why the atheists are such a drag on the Movement and such stumbling stones to any progress. They claim to want to promote WN, but they are deceiving themselves and lying to others. In fact, all that they want is to destroy Christianity as well as all other religions and to pull down God. And in their ignorance, they are willing to sacrifice their people and their country so that they can do the devil's work.

Don't concern yourself with the opinions of these atheist fools. They are only a temporary aberrition in White Nationalism.
Gutter wisdom at itz finest, belch.

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Old January 25th, 2011 #67
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I think Walmart is doing better than Christianity in the 'all things to all men' department.
 
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Yes, you can be a Christian and a White Nationalist simultaneously. Don't let these atheist fools convince you otherwise.

Some of these atheists and other assorted morons who have absolutely zero knowledge of God or of Spirituality or of religion, in general, think that religion is limited to the little box that they have put it in. They define religion; they define Christianity and they build the little box that contains what they say goes into that box; and then they claim that what is in the box is false. But they are like little boys who build a mud castle and imagine it to be a mighty fortress. They are fools and idiots. Intelligent fools and blind idiots? Is it possible? Yes, they prove that it is possible.

Christianity is much greater than the little boxes that foolish men construct to contain it. Why else are there so many sects of Christians? Why? Because none of the boxes ever built can hold all of Christianity's truth. The Roman Catholic container wasn't big enough for it. The Protestant container wasn't big enough for it. The Orthodox container wasn't big enough for it. And the list goes on from Marianism and the Gnostics to Mary Baker Eddie and the Mormons. None of these great movements could contain all that Christianity offers the world.

So, of what import do these pitiful little twerps who claim to be mighty atheists and godlessly wise "White Nationalists" have that is so great? Absolutely nothing. But the strange thing is, even though they have nothing to offer, they still can fill the void of their ignorance with wordy reams of nonsense and opinionated bullshit, all designed to mock what they can otherwise not, themselves, understand.

White Nationalism can go nowhere without a knowledge of Godly things. Perhaps this is why the atheists are such a drag on the Movement and such stumbling stones to any progress. They claim to want to promote WN, but they are deceiving themselves and lying to others. In fact, all that they want is to destroy Christianity as well as all other religions and to pull down God. And in their ignorance, they are willing to sacrifice their people and their country so that they can do the devil's work.

Don't concern yourself with the opinions of these atheist fools. They are only a temporary aberrition in White Nationalism.
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who drew that cartoon, anyway? one of the greatest of all times.
 
Old January 25th, 2011 #71
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This sums up the christ cult without a single word. It deserves a pulitzer. Aint nothing in the cult for White men, believe it.
 
Old January 25th, 2011 #72
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The old Christian teachers considered miscegenation a sin, they warned their followers of the Jew, and they united the European people.

But those days are gone. Just like the Pagan beliefs of the White Folk.
 
Old January 25th, 2011 #73
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The old Christian teachers considered miscegenation a sin, they warned their followers of the Jew, and they united the European people.

But those days are gone. Just like the Pagan beliefs of the White Folk.
Except for the Catholic Church in Spanish America. They actively encouraged it, especially with the injun "nobility" of the Incas, Aztecs, and other such gut-eaters.

Of course them Catholics ain't true xtians.
 
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The Norse people were also taught that their Gods would be eventually defeated by evil (the Giants).
No. There is no evil in Norse mythology. There is only law and chaos. The Gods represent law, the giants and trolls and other creatures represent chaos. Not all giants are evil. It's a lot more complicated than "good vs evil". Our Pagan ancestors did not think of such, because either means absolute.

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...and then the worlds would be reborn, along with Asgard and Valhalla.

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Although the Norse Gods were heroic and would certainly go down fighting (as a Norse warrior should), they were just too weak to defeat their enemies.
Because the Norse viewed everything in cycles. All Aryans did. Hence the Sunwheel/swastika. The world would be sent into darkness and despair and then destroyed and a new world would be reborn, lead by Baldur and the sons of Thor and Odin. The Norse did not believe in an "unknown supreme god". That's bullshit.

Shut the fuck up about shit you don't know, asshole.
 
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It's not like CI in the least.
Isn't a key component of it the claim that Jesus was not a Jew? That Galilee was a Nordic enclave? Some of it, at LEAST, stinks of CI-level pseudoscience.

No, I haven't read Rosenberg's book but I've read summaries. He likes the Manichaeism gnostic 'heresy' which obviously isn't like CI, I agree, especially in that it rejects the entire Old Testament - and also more importantly doesn't claim that White people descended from "real" Jews. That's a pretty disgusting part of CI to me personally.

But the KEY component still remains. We still have this elephant in the room that Jesus was not a Jew. Quite obviously "he" was. So therefore I don't think any WN in their right mind can accept it.

I admire Rosenberg for attempting to replace the more odious forms of Christianity that were holding back some of the National Socialist program. It would have unified the churches. I may have tended to accept this type of Christianity for pragmatic reasons, to unite the White race but...I don't know. It still seems Jewish and for principle reasons would be difficult to implement wholeheartedly.

Hope to get some expert opinion on this because it's an interesting topic.
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Back then there was more of a purity of our race. Nogs, tapirs and other mystery meats were unheard of in White Europe. We fought off the mud muslums, slangy-eyed gooks from Mongolia and the Kharzarian influence upon our folk. The New Vanguard can't proceed into the future without honoring the the fighters of the Old Vanguard. Wesley Swift and Richard Butler did honor their folk by fighting for White Aryan self-determination. Are we to deny these men their right in our future halls of heroes?
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But those days are gone. Just like the Pagan beliefs of the White Folk.
 
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One thing about religion is that it just happens to coincide with whatever political beliefs the believer adheres to. Most Christian churches believe in a egalitarian worldview, which is anti-white in reality.

I recently joined the Council of Conservatives Citizens. One of their planks is that America is a Christian nation. But their type of Christianity is a white nationalist one, if you can believe that.
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Isn't a key component of it the claim that Jesus was not a Jew? That Galilee was a Nordic enclave? Some of it, at LEAST, stinks of CI-level pseudoscience.
Yeah, i think rosy claimed jebus wasn't a jew. My understanding of rosenberg's mission is that he was going to prune christianity of the non-nordic elements. He's going to turn this mass of semitic lies into something Aryan and pure. It was a long-term project. I don't think Hitler thought much of it, nor do I. It's important to know the difference between something is fundamentally solid, and something is fucked up inherenly or beyond repair. Christ-insanity should be junked, not made over.

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No, I haven't read Rosenberg's book but I've read summaries. He likes the Manichaeism gnostic 'heresy' which obviously isn't like CI, I agree, especially in that it rejects the entire Old Testament - and also more importantly doesn't claim that White people descended from "real" Jews. That's a pretty disgusting part of CI to me personally.
I wouldn't say that's merely a "part" of CI, I would say that ludicrous claim is the heart and essence of CI. All the CI you will meet care about nothing more than "proving" their stupid claims.

What catholic Jones taught me is that all Protestantism tends to model itself on the Old Testament. That's what all this new zion horshit is about, and you can see in Prots from Puritans to Mormons. The diff between them and CI is that CI are literally claiming they are the real jews, descended from the lost tribes mentioned in the bible. The mainstream Protestants are saying they're like the jews in the old testament. In the case of the Mormons, they actually believe jesus came over to the new world, and they may even believe some of the original lost tribes did the same, i can't recall exactly.

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But the KEY component still remains. We still have this elephant in the room that Jesus was not a Jew. Quite obviously "he" was. So therefore I don't think any WN in their right mind can accept it.
I agree. But christians are cultists, and cultists don't give a flying shit about reason and evidence. The whole idea of prayer and God is that reality can be whatever you want, rather than something subject to actual physical laws.

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I admire Rosenberg for attempting to replace the more odious forms of Christianity that were holding back some of the National Socialist program. It would have unified the churches. I may have tended to accept this type of Christianity for pragmatic reasons, to unite the White race but...I don't know. It still seems Jewish and for principle reasons would be difficult to implement wholeheartedly.

Hope to get some expert opinion on this because it's an interesting topic.
The way you defeat something like christ-insanity, in my opinion, is to develop superior institutions, defined as having higher standards and being based in reality rather than fantasy. Do that, and remove the legal privileges the church receives, I think it would disappear over time, particularly if their were eugenics being deployed that raised the average IQ from 100 to 130.
 
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One thing about religion is that it just happens to coincide with whatever political beliefs the believer adheres to. Most Christian churches believe in a egalitarian worldview, which is anti-white in reality.

I recently joined the Council of Conservatives Citizens. One of their planks is that America is a Christian nation. But their type of Christianity is a white nationalist one, if you can believe that.
I can't believe that because I know for a fact that CCC includes jews, who are not white. CCC is, by its name and actions, conservative, not nationalist or White.
 
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Ulysses Crane, these are some of the points I was fumbling around and trying to make based on what little I know of the Pagan religions.




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No. There is no evil in Norse mythology. There is only law and chaos. The Gods represent law, the giants and trolls and other creatures represent chaos. Not all giants are evil. It's a lot more complicated than "good vs evil". Our Pagan ancestors did not think of such, because either means absolute.
Exactly. Life is a constant overcoming of chaos and degeneration, order is maintained or even increased to the extent we hold back chaos.

Xtianity tends to see the world as black and white, good or evil. It seems to be a basic tenet of xtian belief that "evil" will eventually be defeated once and for all. The lion will lay down with the lamb. Jesus will return and peace will reign.

Xtians actively fear the idea that a large degree of random chaos is built into the universe. That is why they detest the idea of evolution and science in general. They don't seem to be able to grasp that there are actually underlying laws in operation that make evolution work, it is selective. They just see it as totally random and left to chance. They can't grasp that although there is a huge degree of randomness in the world, there are also basic laws of creation, of law, that not only overcome the chaotic randomness but actively depend on it for "opportunity". Xtians want to reduce the world to "God's will", "evil" is only permitted as a way to test them and will eventually be done away with when God and Jesus get around to it.

Someone is struck by lightning while walking along a ridge. A xtian will show up at the funeral and piously intone that "it was God's will, He works in mysterious ways". He will then offer up a prayer asking God to have mercy on the deceased one's soul. HELLO! God just nailed this poor bastard right between the eyes with 50,000,000 volts of lightning, scattering bits of him over no less than 3 acres, and now we are going to ask Him for mercy on this poor bastards soul? I'd say God must have been pretty pissed and this poor bastard is on his way to hell.

My point with this is that xtianity tends to cloud one's thinking about the real world. If something is reduced to "God's will" there is no inducement to try to understand it further. A rational person will tend to try to understand the underlying principles at work, if any. He might think, for example, "Hmmm, thats the third guy in the last ten years that got nailed by lightning around here, they were all on higher ground, maybe I should stay off of hills and ridges during a thunderstorm."




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...and then the worlds would be reborn, along with Asgard and Valhalla.



Because the Norse viewed everything in cycles. All Aryans did. Hence the Sunwheel/swastika. The world would be sent into darkness and despair and then destroyed and a new world would be reborn, lead by Baldur and the sons of Thor and Odin. The Norse did not believe in an "unknown supreme god". That's bullshit.
Which reflects a damned good understanding of the real world and Nature. Perhaps science itself should be seen as a form of neo-Paganism, or the spirit of Paganism reborn. Pure science,not the jew controlled crap that passes as science these days.
 
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