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[quote=Fred Streed;1227742][quote=procopius;1227688] In the western world, we see living man as a perfection (even to a fault), this is why the Ancient Greeks saw the Gods (Idols, Statues) as a reflection of themselves.
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You seem to believe in evolution as an atheist does to explain the "Creation" of man. The Norse Pagans did not believe that, they believed that their Gods created them. I don't want to get into a discussion on evolution, I'm just pointing that out. |
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Ah yes, beat on that ol' stawman. Well, certainly no scientist in their right mind would ever argue that any of the utter non-sense espoused by xtianity in any way reflects reality. I don't know what they would say about the various Pagan mythologies, that wasn't my argument. "I" said that Pagan mythology more closely reflects reality than the Christ-insanity. You brought up the bit about Yggdrasil and I simply pointed out that the death of the World Tree itself during end times is very similar to current scientific beliefs about the Universe itself. It takes a real Christ-insane twist to interpret that as scientists supporting Paganism. Last edited by Fred Streed; January 23rd, 2011 at 09:52 PM. |
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I think obsession is a little strong, but there certainly seems to be a desire on this forum to bitch-slap Christianity.
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That is the typical model. All religions (especially Christianity and Islam) begin with what is there and modify it. Almost everything in Christianity, for example, can be traced back to Persian/Hindu/Aryan? sun-worship. Quote:
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People who suffer a holocaust deserve a homeland. The fact that jews live in Israel proves it. The bottom line is that this discussion rambles on like an overloaded garbage truck lurching down the street on three wheels. It goes nowhere and probably does little besides piss off WNs who also happen to be Christian. Here's my question to the anti-Christians among you: SO WHAT? I got that you don't like Christianity. So what is it you want to do about it? What do you propose to do with the millions of white Christians - many of whom are open to white nationalism? That's where the discussion needs to be (imo). |
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ASSUMPTION 1) "God" gives power to a monarch who is his agent on earth - such as either one of these characters: Therefore: We must have an aristocracy. ASSUMPTION 2) "God" gives his power to Man directly, such as stated here: Quote:
ASSUMPTION 3) Absolute humanism, which sets man at the summit of the cosmos: man is the supreme being. All power comes from man. Therefore: We must choose a man and develop a cult of personality around him. ASSUMPTION 4) Absolute humanism, which sets man at the summit of the cosmos: man is the supreme being. All power comes from man. But, no one man can be trusted with absolute power because power corrupts (man is fallible). Therefore: Some group must exercise power. You hate Christianity. I get that. So where do we go from here? |
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These Christ hating anti Christian rants are unbecoming of a thinking person. They sound like something that would come from the mouth of a pharisee.
It truly makes me wonder about the whole 'movement', as it makes the movement seem a part of the whole Beast Anti Christ thing we're up against. Yes, there are problems with the majority of the Christian Church now, but there are better ways of explaining it. Here's someone who does a great job. www.whtt.org |
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This is what we do. We criticize Christianity just as we criticize all destructive jewish ideas. If that's a dealbreaker for the millions of white Christians who are supposedly open to white nationalism, it tells us something about their true motives.
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< scratching my head > So you can't be a Christian and a white nationalist simultaneously? What are the rules? Can you like peanut butter and be a white nationalist? Or, can you drive a Honda and be a white nationalist? How about MMA - can you like MMA and be a white nationalist? Maybe there should be a sign on the front of this forum: No dogs, jews, niggers or Christians welcome. I don't mean this as a personal insult to you, Mr Parker, since I don't know you. But that level of ORTHODOXY is found in people like this: I'm just not sure an anti-Christian bias is logical for white nationalism when Christianity has always been in the forefront of anti-Semitism. It seems we're just doing the hebe's job for him. Wouldn't we be better off strategically if we recruited those Christians who are simultaneously white supremacists? There are plenty of them around. Not all Christians are created equally. I suspect that for every one who subscribes to the pussified, faggotized, socialized modern interpretation of scripture, there are three or more who don't see muds as the equal of the white man. |
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How about we replace it, the christ insanity, with something that allows our outward professions to match our inward convictions, to borrow a line from the late Doctor Pierce? Xtianity does not do that. How about we replace it with something that does not require us to profess beliefs that directly contradict simple basic science? None of this Genesis fairy tale. Something that accommodates scientific discoveries instead of fighting them tooth and nail, and then when science wins pretending it was all revealed by the will of the Lawd? Thing is, something WILL replace the hodge-podge of non-sense, goofiness, and outright insanity of xtianity. But we need to clear the weeds first, then something new will grow, something organic that comes from US, in line with our convictions and needs. As others have pointed out, National Socialism came very close to doing this in Germany. One of the problems with xtians is that they really cannot even conceive of anything replacing their pet superstitions unless it is something just as goofy. It never occurs to them that we really don't need a transcendent Big Daddy Spook floating around the ether with a list of impossible demands and thou shalts and thou shalt nots. We really don't need the club of the heaven/hell superstition to beat us into submission to what is just basic morality and largely independent of religion anyway. We really do not need to degrade ourselves through prayer and basic ass kissing to some deity whom we are supposed to fear and imagining ourselves somehow morally improved by the experience. |
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THIS TYPE OF INSANITY IS HOW WE GOT IN THIS MESS. But fools like you refuse to acknowledge any link between christ-cult dogma and doctrine and the current racial mess. The spiritual universalism that is dogma to the christ cult can never, repeat never, be reconciled with white nationalism. Race or religion - you must choose. Quote:
Yet again, your entire shtik is based on the widely accepted faggotry that we need to "appeal" to people, and must be wary of "offending" this that or the other. In fact the only people you faggots don't worry about offending are open and unapologetic White nationalists. Really, weaklings who need continually apologize, remonstrate, reach out, rub their hands and make mincing looks with their eyes - these people are useless. This sort of stupidity couched as real wisdom only makes sense to people who have never seen the enemy up close, and don't realize that only the type of people who can deal with an enemy that kills and cheats are worth having. The write-a-letter types susceptible to gelded appeals are worthless for the type of change we need. Last edited by Alex Linder; January 25th, 2011 at 12:26 PM. |
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The Greeks began looking to the east for inspiration (Where the original Greek Deities had come from the North), and Oriental cults had been moving into Greece since Alexander the Great created his empire. Then from Greece the Oriental Religions moved into Rome. Eventually the Oriental Mystery Religions became more popular then any hold outs to the old ways. |
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CNN) - Republican 2012 presidential hopeful Rick Santorum ramped up his criticism of President Barack Obama's stance on abortion writing Monday for the National Review.
This follows a controversy sparked Thursday when the former senator made comments to CNSnews.com comparing abortion with slavery and criticizing Obama's stance on abortion. In the article Santorum explains the merit of his comments, stating that the president has "wrapped himself in the history and legacy of civil rights." But in the scathing rebuttal to critics posted on the National Review's "The Corner" Monday, the former senator from Pennsylvania also lashed out against the "condemnation" he says he received "mostly, but not exclusively, from the left." And to those who thought their words would silence him, Santorum said they "obviously haven't done a Google search." "Over a million lives will be taken this year, and a disproportionate percentage of these children will be black. How is this any less a civil-rights issue than any other issue we tie to civil rights?" Santorum wrote. He further blasts Obama for education choices made for the first family. "When we point out that our president does not allow the educational choice for poor black children in Washington, D.C., that he provides to his own children, does that make headlines?" he writes, continuing that his support comes from both sides of the aisle. Citing first, Rev. Jesse Jackson: "In 1977, the Rev. Jesse Jackson wrote, 'I believe that life is not private, but rather it is public and universal. If one accepts the position that life is private, and therefore you have the right to do with it as you please, one must also accept the conclusion of that logic. That was the premise of slavery.' He also sees support in President Reagan's writings: "In 1983 Pres. Ronald Reagan wrote: 'is is not the first time our country has been divided by a Supreme Court decision that denied the value of certain human lives.The Dred Scott decision of 1857 was not overturned in a day, or a year, or even a decade...'" Santorum further compares Obama's response to the question of when life began as "above my pay grade" with Stephen Douglas, the Democratic presidential candidate who lost to Abraham Lincoln in 1860 and who, he wrote, had a "don't care" attitude toward the question of personhood for blacks. http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...a-civil-right/
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Rosenberg might have been onto something with his Positive Christianity.
Who knows how far that may have gone if Nazi Germany had continued on is anybody's guess. I suppose it's a lot like Christian Identity though ("Jeebus was from Galilee, a Nordic enclave!"). http://www.gnosticliberationfront.co...red_rosenb.htm
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Some of these atheists and other assorted morons who have absolutely zero knowledge of God or of Spirituality or of religion, in general, think that religion is limited to the little box that they have put it in. They define religion; they define Christianity and they build the little box that contains what they say goes into that box; and then they claim that what is in the box is false. But they are like little boys who build a mud castle and imagine it to be a mighty fortress. They are fools and idiots. Intelligent fools and blind idiots? Is it possible? Yes, they prove that it is possible. Christianity is much greater than the little boxes that foolish men construct to contain it. Why else are there so many sects of Christians? Why? Because none of the boxes ever built can hold all of Christianity's truth. The Roman Catholic container wasn't big enough for it. The Protestant container wasn't big enough for it. The Orthodox container wasn't big enough for it. And the list goes on from Marianism and the Gnostics to Mary Baker Eddie and the Mormons. None of these great movements could contain all that Christianity offers the world. So, of what import do these pitiful little twerps who claim to be mighty atheists and godlessly wise "White Nationalists" have that is so great? Absolutely nothing. But the strange thing is, even though they have nothing to offer, they still can fill the void of their ignorance with wordy reams of nonsense and opinionated bullshit, all designed to mock what they can otherwise not, themselves, understand. White Nationalism can go nowhere without a knowledge of Godly things. Perhaps this is why the atheists are such a drag on the Movement and such stumbling stones to any progress. They claim to want to promote WN, but they are deceiving themselves and lying to others. In fact, all that they want is to destroy Christianity as well as all other religions and to pull down God. And in their ignorance, they are willing to sacrifice their people and their country so that they can do the devil's work. Don't concern yourself with the opinions of these atheist fools. They are only a temporary aberrition in White Nationalism. |
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The only point you try to triangulate around, is the fact that "White Separatism" is a synthetic, phoney Leftist ideology. But you accept it and promote it because you are a fake White Nationalist. I use the term White Supremist because that is what I am. While you are a cowardly "White Separatist" because you are afraid of non-whites and you promote the failed idea that white people can only be safe by separating ourselves from the muds. However, White Supremists know that white people are the greatest people on earth. We can go anywhere and associate with any other people without losing our identity as white people because our whiteness is hard-wired. But a "White Separatist" is a ship without a rudder, unable to maintain an even keel without the outside help of his protected little enclaves and gated communities. A White Supremist is supreme wherever he is while a White Separatist is only supreme when he has the protection of the law and the protection of his hometown gang to keep him safe. White Separatists are white alright, but you are all wimps. I prefer that all color people go back to wherever they came from. But that doesn't reduce the fact that I am a White Supremist and am a lot better than any other race and a whole lot better than you cowardly "Separatist" chickenshits. So, you White Separatists either join up with the winning side or get the hell out of the way. Last edited by banjo_billy; January 25th, 2011 at 12:30 PM. |
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Gawd, Jesus P, and Ol' Scratch must all hang out in the same honky tonk, they all seem to have the same goal, destruction of the White race. There are a lot of people who are willing to sacrifice their own people and countries, some of whom are doing Gawd's work, others who work for the jew carpenter, and now you claim some others are working for the devil. |
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