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I'm discussing the pre-revolutionary phase. If our activists can be starved we'll never gather the critical mass needed for revolution.
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These ritual humiliations are used to remind Whites that they are on their own, that there's no hope, that failure and poverty and pain are the only consequences they can expect if they tell the truth. When Ron Paul was raising millions of dollars it occurred to me that the mechanism, thousands of small donations made very quickly using the internet, had revolutionary potential. But looking into the mechanism there were two obvious weaknesses. First, Ron Paul donors gave their real names. Ron wasn't a serious threat to the system so donating was fairly safe. Admitting to WN beliefs by contributing with your credit card, not so much. Which brings me to problem number two - the credit card. Or Paypal. Or any other payment system connected to the jew banks. Jews obviously won't allow us to use their systems to arrange for their expulsion. But then I started looking into Bitcoin. While it's not anonymous, it can be spent without any jew's approval. And because it's used for many things, not just WN activism, the system hasn't shut it down. There are hints that mainstream businesses might want to make use of it for economical micropayments, something they've failed to convince the greedy banks to enable (the banks always want a minimum cut per transaction, rendering micropayments infeasible). So Bitcoin isn't going to be shut down outright, for now. But it still isn't anonymous. That's where the newer cryptocurrencies come in. There's a list of them here. They're not perfect, but the technology keeps improving. So, assume that a robust anonymous cryptocurrency, widely used, popular with the sort of people who support The Pirate Bay, Wikileaks and other somewhat fringe movements/technologies, emerges. I suggest we ride that wave. Make use of the anonymous payment system infrastructure to raise funds to support our activists, and deny jews the satisfaction of seeing our heroes suffer financial ruin. Assuming that there's a group in charge of the fundraising campaigns (it's possible there could be a decentralized mechanism, but that's another subject) it would need to be defended. Part of the proceeds would go to paying a full time staff. That might just be a manager, someone to customize software and someone to run the server. But they'd be paid the same way the employees of all the thousands of jew orgs are paid. The cultural aspect of this is to change the WN attitude that everything should be a volunteer gig. Many projects require a full time, highly skilled staff. There are several existing models for choosing what should be funded. Obviously it can't be entirely open, jews would just flood in and nominate themselves as "WN activists" then use their swarming tactics to fill the site with jew logrolling. But it could be looser, more like Indiegogo, or tightly controlled like Kickstarter. Choosing the right projects and activists to support is vital. The man who takes charge of that will be the point of the spear, and will take a lot of heat. |
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May 28th, 2015 | #1782 |
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So even though Linder says he is 95% sure I aint covington and Varg said I aint using a proxy, which means he can tell what COUNTRY I am in, you still go ahead and make false accusations. You NA boys really are determined to destroy the NA yourselves aren't you.Williams chats to the enemy, and You continue to make false accusations. How are you going to attract new members when they can easily see that you are full of shit.
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May 29th, 2015 | #1783 | |
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May 29th, 2015 | #1784 |
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Why is Craig Cobb a "Martyr"?
If he is a "Martyr" why does he warrant "relief". I'm open to donating if it's for the right cause. I'm not familiar with this Craig Cobb guy. But I see him posting on SF and he seems to be quite well known. Does he have an account here also? |
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WN in North America desperately needs new blood at the executive level. Revolution is a young man's game.
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Dr. Pierce went for years with a monthly magazine and bulletin. With less members than the NA has now. Quote:
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You are peddling lots of blue sky but nothing of substance. Your plan seems to be something like OK, we will take our countries back from the jew. We will start by taking over the media from the jews. We will set up a pension and medical plan for activists. OK, you guys now know what to do, go get'em.
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Name one WN membership organization in North America in 2015 that is worthy of risking everything you have to join? If it doesn't exist, you can't fault people for not joining.
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May 29th, 2015 | #1789 | |
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That's why the movement goes in circles. It has a set of cultural assumptions to maintain a martyrs only club. If you don't respect those traditions - which aren't working, and really never have worked - you're not welcome to even join the discussion. Another dumbshit premise is that if you can't do something yourself you shouldn't suggest it. I don't need to be an audio engineer to want better recorded podcasts. The scolding and guilt tripping is beside the point. WNs need to up their game. Accusing anyone who suggests some quality control, smart leadership, and new thinking to replace the old, failed approaches of being an anti-white infiltrator is also counterproductive. |
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May 29th, 2015 | #1790 | |
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White media can be created without taking over the jew media. This is why we need activists under the age of forty... |
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May 29th, 2015 | #1791 | |
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May 29th, 2015 | #1792 |
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Blue sky, baby!
You want some crystal blue persuasion, here it comes.
A White nationalist streaming videocast should look so good that at first, second, and third glance it's identical in technical quality from a network news broadcast. That doesn't mean it's being broadcast over the jew-FCC controlled airwaves, it means that if you opened two streaming video windows side by side, one with the CBS nightly news and one with White Nationalist News, they'd be of the same video and audio quality. The content would be superior to the jewmedia's in every way. I've gone over the technical issues in several threads. Beyond Podcasting: Starting Your Own Internet Television Channel A video recorder cost $45,000 in 1956 Related thoughts on tactics here. What White Nationalists can learn from pirates |
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The silver lining is that judging by the conversations had at our Memorial Day party, the first WN organization/social movement not wearing clown shoes is going to blow up like Kirstie Alley at an Olive Garden.
Give them a couple Sculpin IPAs and white middle Americans sound like VNNers.
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Why is that necessary? It would end up mostly just reporting on black crime, since that's the most prevalent thing in WN 'news' content. It would be expensive (even with cheaper modern tech), and would require hiring people with professional talent. I don't think there's much benefit for the costs involved. A lot of our message can be understood by reading a few articles, which is faster and gives a deeper understanding than a video newscast can accomplish. I do agree that we benefit from having professional video explaining our cause, but it doesn't need to be a streaming site. We only need maybe a handful of professional videos explaining our cause and the problems we face. There are already some really good ones made of WLP, and even David Duke speeches on youtube. A lot of those are professional quality, and were made for free. A news broadcast thing isn't really worth spending the resources on now, since it wouldn't turn a profit, wouldn't be able to support itself, and would mostly just be reporting on black crime if it's in a news broadcast type format. There's no reason explaining our cause would need to be a streaming newscast, rather than just a few 10 minute videos that can be easily shared. Those already exist, but more of them doesn't hurt. Last edited by varg; May 29th, 2015 at 03:51 AM. |
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And to live in a hole in the ground if it comes to that.
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You mean kind of like the NA was working on when Dr. Pierce died? And like they still plan to do once they get rolling good again?
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May 29th, 2015 | #1797 | |
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Zeskind? Yeah, I had forgot about that. Zeskind is both Lenny Rouse and Sammy Emerson? Fuck, where's O'Mally when we need him? He was pretty good at figuring this stuff out. He caught on that you were some fat jew way before the rest of us did. JK, that's a joke, don't fucking shoot.
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It wasn't the first time I'd thought about the 1812 squabble and reasoned that our ancestors must have decided it was worth throwing just to not to have to be responsible for you guys any more.
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Here's how I see it. Contrary to what essay multipliers would like to believe, our cause is easy to understand not difficult. That's point the first. Anyone can understand nigger crime. Since the vast majority of whites moves to whiter areas, a point I have made roughly a million times, they certainly ARE AWARE ALREADY of nigger criminality. The only intellectual connection that needs to be made is to the jew facilitating the nigger by twisting laws to force it into white communities and then controlling the media so that the natural response is perverted into something evil, ie 'hate.' This is not a difficult connection to make. It is now made by sites all over the internet. Point the second is that the media owned by our enemy are doing our job against their will and in spite of themselves. And they have the cutting-edge technology & professionalism you want. Even the dimmest intelligence after a time must wonder why they bend over backwards to avoid speaking the obvious truth: that niggers riot for no reason, and refuse to take responsibility for their actions, and blame everything on whites. Again, when we see a cop fund draw 250k in 48 hours, this is an indication of understanding and hidden anger. Mere coverage of all this black crap amounts to implicit White Nationalism for the normal white majority that is our market and man-pool and reason for existing. What's missing isn't technical talent or message, it's leadership. No one is LEADING WHITES. There simply can't be any people at this late date of any particular brainpower who don't grasp what's going on. The internet has been mainstream for 20 years now. Anyone interested can figure out what's up. Most people who will flesh out our ranks are happy staying with the conservatives, because that's the System approved option. It's fake and impotent. But it makes them feel good. They are not going to be persuaded intellectually, most of them, because they are schoolfish, but when they see a force actually IN THE STREETS CHANGING THINGS, that is when they will begin to consider seriously supporting it with blood and treasure. Just as they shifted easily from traditional small-govt, no-foreign-entanglements traditional-American conservatism when the jew-commie neocons took over by the early eighties, so will they shift if some other force becomes a plausible authority and tells them that conservatism is racialism or nazism. These are not thinkers or leaders, they are followers and fodder. They orient to strength and authority alone. This is biological, and cannot be altered. These are the men you buy or 'persuade' wholesale, by no means other than providing a plausible authority, in one form or another, but most typically by being the power that be, or by being a very plausible martial alternative. It's leadership and physical fighting ability that are missing -- the ability to strike physical blows at our enemy -- not media expertise. We aren't banning these System clowns from our forum, they are banning us. We've won the 'argument.' But we know that the point is that it's _not_ an argument. It is this sick dangerous eternal conservative fantasy that we are in a debate that must be rooted out and laughed down as childish weakness. No one is going to join a cause that only suffers blows and never delivers them - but that is precisely what the racial cause is these days, at least in America (not to deride the fine physical efforts that have apparently taken place in Greece, and possibly elsewhere). The problem is not people don't agree with us, plenty do, enough to change things, it's that we have no movement because we haven't overcome the TECHNICAL problem of HOW TO PREVENT OUR GROUPS FROM BEING CRUSHED. We don't need to reach people, or persuade them, or "appeal" to them, as the ignorant are always saying. There is plenty of evidence that people already agree with our fundamental views, based on their behavior, rather than what they say publicly. But they are not going to jump to follow us when there is great risk involved. They will simply try to relocate to solve whatever problems crop up. Those who get the ball rolling are the true and first revolutionaries because they put this noble, necessary, indeed holy cause ABOVE their fucking careers and private lives. These are not 'normal' people. But they are the type that must exist and create the new ideas and forms that in time the average normal people will sign up with. This stuff is all biological. That's very clear to me after decades. We need soldiers. We need people willing to kill and die, if need be. Which is a very different think from trying to "appeal" to middle class voters. Voting and other democratic machinery only work when your side is willing to kill the other side if they try to cheat. That's the simple fact of 'democracy.' Only when the judge is physically afraid of being killed does he or she refrain from throwing out democratic will of the majority as expressed at the ballot box. Contrary to what the System says, lynching is a hallmark of a manly, civilized society. Apathy is the hallmark of a degenerate spectating authority-worshipping society. NA might work. It did lead to the creation of the Doles local unit. Which was very clearly perceived as a dangerous threat by the powers that be. So much so they invested years and millions of dollars to destroy it. My question is, if NA (or anyone) can rebuild a local unit like that, what happens when the feds play the same dirty tricks? What's our answer? These are the questions that matter. Of course it's always good to increase the power and professionalism of our message, and get new and exciting faces and writers, but these are not the essential things, they are closer to secretarial matters. Last edited by Alex Linder; May 29th, 2015 at 08:31 AM. |
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