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Kill them 2 10.53%
Deport them to Africa 0 0%
Deport them to Israel 11 57.89%
Let them stay, but keep them in line 6 31.58%
WE BE DA TRUE ISRAELITEZ 0 0%
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Old August 18th, 2015 #1
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Question What should be done with CI nuts and other Christard kike-a-likes?

I used to be neutral on the Christian issue, meaning that while I thought CIs and similar groups were mentally retarded creeps, they should be left alone as long as they don't cause problems. After reading lots of comments from such people on The Daily Stormer, however, I've become more extreme. The sheer level of disrespect for non-Christard whites, non-Christard white history, etc., was infuriating. (Of course, they have different delusions as to which white countries are which of the 12 tribes, what should be done to non-Christards (they were uniformly hateful toward non-Christards in any case), and other such theological problems so they often differ in ideology.)

This included advocating for the stoning to death of non-Christards (including white nationalists!), viewing the swastika as "un-Christian" and therefore evil, getting bitchy about whites being referred to as "Aryans" and instead insisting on "Israelite" or "Adamic man", referring to Germans as "Assyrians", accusing the Vikings of homosexuality after a naive Odinist said he wanted peace between Christcunts and pagans or something along that line, accusing anyone who even criticizes Christinsanity of being a kike, and, in one case, supporting male genital mutilation! Sven Longshanks, some effeminate CI whackjob that Anglin has as a moderator, simply deletes comments making arguments against Christinsanity. A particularly deranged CI also said that God is an Englishman, and that he doesn't need to make arguments because the truth is the truth regardless of what anyone says.

As far as I'm concerned, all of these fucking lunatic scums should be crucified so they can meet their Jewhovah.
 
Old August 19th, 2015 #2
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I've noticed all the christ cultists on Daily Stormer, too. Although I don't agree with everything Andrew Anglin says, I still think he has a good site and puts out good pro-White messages and information. I personally feel all the christcultism there is a distraction. I never had any of my comments on DS deleted, but I don't think they were about religion. Now that Anglin has implemented Discus, I can no longer leave comments there nor do I want to sign up for it, but it's no great loss, I suppose.

The CI nuts are a symptom of the jew infestation of this country. Get rid of the jew and CI nuts and other symptoms of jewing will go away.
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Old August 19th, 2015 #3
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I've noticed all the christ cultists on Daily Stormer, too. Although I don't agree with everything Andrew Anglin says, I still think he has a good site and puts out good pro-White messages and information. I personally feel all the christcultism there is a distraction. I never had any of my comments on DS deleted, but I don't think they were about religion. Now that Anglin has implemented Discus, I can no longer leave comments there nor do I want to sign up for it, but it's no great loss, I suppose.

The CI nuts are a symptom of the jew infestation of this country. Get rid of the jew and CI nuts and other symptoms of jewing will go away.

I dunno man. I know a few a CI people and they seem alright to me. Don't get me wrong I've encountered a few nutty ones too. I just think right now they are the least of our worries. Having come from a Judeo-Christian background myself I can tell you that the Christian monkey is pretty hard to shake especially when you have been indoctrinated with it from the time you are born. So I can tell you that most CI people are ex-judeo Christian who just can't quite bring themselves to shake the Christian monkey off their back once and for all. Some will eventually come out of it, others will not. I even dabbled in CI for a while then finally realized it just didn't add up, even though some of it made sense, the vast majority of it did not.


Bottom line is we got bigger fish to fry right now. So I'm open to working with the non-nutty CI people if they leave their preaching at the door and we can get down to doing some serious activism for our race (minus the religious BS). I did work with a few already to create a few pro-white videos on Youtube. No problem at all working with them.

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Old August 19th, 2015 #4
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Nation of Islam for White people.

But really, it's just Christianity. If you actually believe the bible, if you actually believe God created humans from dust and they were cursed by eating a fruit, if you actually believe Jesus was a real wizard, that's crazy. Doesn't matter if you're Aryan Nations or Opus Dei. What CI believes actually tends to make more sense than Catholic orthodoxy.
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Old August 19th, 2015 #5
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if you actually believe God created humans from dust
Actually humans are made of dust. Quite profound if you realize that some really primitive dumb asses wrote that down several thousand years ago before any concept of molecular attraction or elemental understanding of biological formation was even conceived.

A rather specific guess.
 
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Metaphorically humans can be made out of dust, or copper, or bananas.
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Old August 19th, 2015 #7
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if you actually believe God created humans from dust and they were cursed by eating a fruit
That's not what they believe though. The translations in today's version of the bible are not accurate. For example ADAM doesn't mean the first man like many christians are taught but it literally means "white man or one who can turn rosey" ie: when embarrassed. Also the tree in the garden is just a metaphor for family tree or races and to eat of "the fruit" of the tree is to race mix and the serpent who tempts eve with sleazy words is the jew (or satan if prefer). Genesis is a super interesting book even for a non-christian. You can't help but think there is some truth in its writings even if it somewhat metaphorical and esoteric. Most of the other books in the bible are jew through and through in my opinion. Books like Esther etc.
 
Old August 19th, 2015 #8
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No it doesn't and you're a retard. Can't you CI morons come up with your own religion instead of trying to interpret jewish mythology to suit your needs? There are "black israelites" and "chinese israelites" who make all the exact same arguments you do, and your interpretation isn't any more legitimate than theirs is. Your bible can be made to mean almost anything. If you think whites are the only race who are capable of blushing, you're an idiot.
 
Old August 19th, 2015 #9
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I came to the conclusion long ago that Identity Christians are not really White Nationalists at all. Rather, they are an entirely separate movement that has infiltrated White Nationalism, not to promote it, but to subvert it and turn it into an extension of CI.

If, someday in the distant future, there is a WN state in North America, they will have to dealt with firmly. Conversely, if there is a CI government, WNs will either be forced to convert or put to the sword.

I guess that there may be some rank-and-file Identity Christians who are good White folks, but just misinformed. But the CI leadership and activists are poisonous to WN.
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Old August 19th, 2015 #10
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Actually humans are made of dust. Quite profound if you realize that some really primitive dumb asses wrote that down several thousand years ago before any concept of molecular attraction or elemental understanding of biological formation was even conceived.

A rather specific guess.
It doesn't take much of a genius to figure out the dust bit. People lived closer to nature back then and it's hard not to notice that the plant food you eat has roots and gets it's sustenance directly from the Earth (dust), and also the atmosphere, but they didn't know that part. And the critters you eat get their sustenance eating the plants made out of dirt, so they have to be dust also since you are what you eat. And they could see dead plants and animals returned to dust after dying.

I get sick of hearing about all the great and profound knowledge that is contained in the bible. The little bit of wisdom it does contain isn't very deep and is far outweighed by the pure superstitious nonsense, lies, foolishness, impossibilities, and general goofiness that only a brain-damaged idiot could possibly believe. And biblical "morality," only a morally crippled imbecile could believe that.

Other than that, I don't have a problem with xtianity. Just don't try to push fairy tales in science classrooms or government. Just keep the jeesus bullshit in the closet where it belongs.

As for what we should do about it, perhaps make it a crime for more than 3 xtards to congregate in any place at the same time. Bibles should be registered. Churches should be burned or converted to something useful, maybe a tavern, or even social clubs inhabited by unwed women, a place where gentlemen could stop in after work for a couple drinks and the company of the young women. A list, available to the public, should be maintained with the names and addresses of known xtards. People have a right to know if their neighbor is a delusional whack job so they can keep their children away from the filth. Xtians like to stand on street corners or hang out in parks where they can handout despicable diabolical diatribes hidden in pockets inside their coats to innocent children in an attempt to corrupt their young impressionable souls.
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Old August 19th, 2015 #11
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No it doesn't and you're a retard. Can't you CI morons come up with your own religion instead of trying to interpret jewish mythology to suit your needs? There are "black israelites" and "chinese israelites" who make all the exact same arguments you do, and your interpretation isn't any more legitimate than theirs is. Your bible can be made to mean almost anything. If you think whites are the only race who are capable of blushing, you're an idiot.
Well, to be fair, according to this mainstream site (it isn't even a religious site), it is likely true that "adam" in Hebrew means something like "ruddy-skinned", but this is because the Bible is just a bastardized version of older tales belonging to Aryans (such as Hittites) that the jews appropriated while wandering around the Middle East, not because there is any truth to the insanity of CI.

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That's not what they believe though. The translations in today's version of the bible are not accurate. For example ADAM doesn't mean the first man like many christians are taught but it literally means "white man or one who can turn rosey" ie: when embarrassed. Also the tree in the garden is just a metaphor for family tree or races and to eat of "the fruit" of the tree is to race mix and the serpent who tempts eve with sleazy words is the jew (or satan if prefer).
Yeah their versions are different and usually more plausible than the traditional account.

It's quite absurd to believe Europe is populated by tribes of Israelites who fled the Levant in 700 BC.

To believe the ancient Israelites were biologically White is less absurd; some Egyptian pharaohs were basically White, and Israel having "princes as white as milk" does appear in their scripture. On the other hand, there's also little evidence of it actually being the case.

A central theme of the Jesus myth is that Judea had become corrupt and was no longer "the Land of The Prophets", which is why Jesus was unpopular and in continuous conflict with the religious authorities. Accusations of genetic debasement go hand in hand with that, and it does look like King Harod was part "Edomite". It doesn't look like Jesus was originally supposed to preach to outsiders, that was added with St. Paul.
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The christians need to realize they will be extinct in sixty years. They need to understand that they are not gonna make it without our help.
 
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The christians need to realize they will be extinct in sixty years. They need to understand that they are not gonna make it without our help.
Well White Christians will be. Christians are basically all going to wind up joining the Mexicans and Africans, or abandoning the religion.
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I can barely tolerate the standard Catholic, Lutheran, Presbyterian, Methodist...you get it...the go to church on Sunday and eat pancakes with the family after church...mostly harmless types, and to be sure there are some benefits, social, family, and so on.

The fundies, the rapture bunnies are scary freaks...but, I think their numbers are diminishing. They were all about ten or so years ago, but they seem to be sort of going away. Truth is I'm barely aware of their existence these days...way different from only a decade ago or so.

The CIers were always an isolated bunch, and they too are going away, but they were associated with us WN types enough to be really obnoxious. How anyone could fall for this I can hardly imagine.

Yep! The CI bunch are the worst of the worst. Not only is their whole body of evidence (mostly a bizarrely weird invented genealogy) totally hallucinatory, but their premise, that we Europeans are the "true Israelites." is the most insulting concept anyone has ever come up with.

I always wonder, "have these nutcases ever read the old testament?" Look at their god, Father Yahweh. A fucking hideous monster that spends most of its time killing its own followers. Then there are the "True Israelites." The most despicable bunch of trash ever to infect the planet. When they're not fucking their own daughters, they are stealing stuff from other tribes, and murdering anyone stupid enough to take them in. Not one decent honorable attribute among the bunch.

And the CI types say that we are their descendants.

Fuck!!

But, as I said all these weirdo are shrinking in numbers, and fast, so I'd just ignore the bunch.

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It wouldn't be fair to deprive the "true Israelites" of their ancestral homeland - so yeah, off to Izzy they go. I wouldn't be opposed to arming them after we drop them off. So they at least got a fair shot at survival.

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No it doesn't and you're a retard. Can't you CI morons come up with your own religion instead of trying to interpret jewish mythology to suit your needs? There are "black israelites" and "chinese israelites" who make all the exact same arguments you do, and your interpretation isn't any more legitimate than theirs is. Your bible can be made to mean almost anything. If you think whites are the only race who are capable of blushing, you're an idiot.
I'm not CI. I'm only stating what they believe. Whites aren't the only race who can blush and I never said they were .

Adam does mean as I stated above though. Type it in for yourself if you don't believe me. Don't shoot the messenger man.

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Yeah their versions are different and usually more plausible than the traditional account.

It's quite absurd to believe Europe is populated by tribes of Israelites who fled the Levant in 700 BC.

To believe the ancient Israelites were biologically White is less absurd; some Egyptian pharaohs were basically White, and Israel having "princes as white as milk" does appear in their scripture. On the other hand, there's also little evidence of it actually being the case.

A central theme of the Jesus myth is that Judea had become corrupt and was no longer "the Land of The Prophets", which is why Jesus was unpopular and in continuous conflict with the religious authorities. Accusations of genetic debasement go hand in hand with that, and it does look like King Harod was part "Edomite". It doesn't look like Jesus was originally supposed to preach to outsiders, that was added with St. Paul.
I just wanted to be accurate about what they believe. You said they believe they literally ate a piece of fruit in the garden of Eden. I was just setting the record straight that they don't believe that (although the judeo christians do). All I said was that the first few chapters of Genesis were interesting, especially with every ancient civilization having record of an ancient flood and now because of that according to varg im a CI nut
 
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To believe the ancient Israelites were biologically White is less absurd; some Egyptian pharaohs were basically White, and Israel having "princes as white as milk" does appear in their scripture. On the other hand, there's also little evidence of it actually being the case.
There was at least some Aryan blood throughout the Middle East at the time. The modern Kurds are one group with some that still look somewhat White. The original Hittites seem likely to have been White. They were the guys who tangled with Ramses the Great at Khadesh, which seems to have ended in a draw, settled with a treaty of which there are several examples carved into various New Kingdom temples and monuments in Egypt.

The Hittites had migrated to the Anatolian peninsula, probably via the Caucasus, displacing other populations and absorbing some of the local culture and ways of doing things. One thing they copied from the older populations was cuneiform writing. Initially the bone diggers had a hard time trying to translate Hittite writing. They knew what the various symbols meant but the underlying language eluded them. Someone finally figured out that it was an Indo-European language and they cracked it. They found monuments with the treaty with Egypt engraved on them which made it possible to date the Hittite history.

The Hittites vanished from history a generation or two later as part of the Bronze Age collapse. No one knows for sure what brought on the collapse but some mysterious "sea people" figure into several accounts from various cultures in the area.

I think the xtian bible mentions "Hittites" but they were talking about a different people, either populations that had been under the Hittite Empire and called themselves "Hittites" or maybe remnant city states still ruled by a Hittite elite.
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