#1 Operation Normalising Nonces: Guardian: Paedophiles are 'ordinary members of society' who need moral support/PIE/Harriet Harman/etc

[Steven L. Akins]

Originally Posted by Bev

They're both over 16 so that defeats the object.

Well, hmm.....we need a Goldielocks test of some sort.

[Steven L. Akins]

Originally Posted by Bev

They're both over 16 so that defeats the object.

Better?

http://www.erosblog.com/sex-blog-pic...ntain-nude.jpg

http://77.247.181.97/big/l/o/u/loulo...mme_e227e1.jpg

http://69hotporntubex.com/wp-content...g-daughter.jpg

[Bev]

I can't see the first but the second two both look over 16 as well.

I don't think pictures will make much difference, to be honest, because the spin can come into play and you can selectively choose pictures that will unwittingly trap or help your side. I still think the best option would be a straightforward 14 or 18? question.

[Henry.]

Originally Posted by Steven L. Akins

I tend to think of myself more as being representative of men's attitudes in their natural, unaltered, state of pure, essential, masculine perspective....

After 25 years on medication can you still remember what the ''natural. unaltered state'' actually feels like?

[Steven L. Akins]

Originally Posted by Bev

I can't see the first but the second two both look over 16 as well.

I don't think pictures will make much difference, to be honest, because the spin can come into play and you can selectively choose pictures that will unwittingly trap or help your side. I still think the best option would be a straightforward 14 or 18? question.

No one is advocating 14, at least not me.

And naturally everyone would say 18 because 18 is legal.

I've already pointed out that it is a question of physical response to visual stimulus which is the real determining factor.

Men aren't apt to be honest on public forums where they may be looking to garner approval and avoid disapproval from their peers and females.

[Steven L. Akins]

Originally Posted by Henry.

After 25 years on medication can you still remember what the ''natural. unaltered state'' actually feels like?

I've never taken any medication for more than a few months before quitting it. While I've tried a wide range of different SSRI's over the past 25 years or so, most of them I quit after only a few weeks.

[Bev]

Originally Posted by Steven L. Akins

No one is advocating 14, at least not me.

And naturally everyone would say 18 because 18 is legal.

I've already pointed out that it is a question of physical response to visual stimulus which is the real determining factor.

Men aren't apt to be honest on public forums where they may be looking to garner approval and avoid disapproval from their peers and females.

No, you haven't said 14 in so many words however your choice of photos and your "nice pull Jeremy" says otherwise.

As for honesty, that's the point of anonymity. I've been so, so reluctant to link to this ancient thread because it's just a clusterf*ck of depravity but if it proves my point:

http://vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t...hlight=consent

View Poll Results: What age of consent would you consider optimal
12 years 7 11.67%
13 years 1 1.67%
14 years 2 3.33%
15 years 6 10.00%
16 years 12 20.00%
17 years 7 11.67%
18 years 17 28.33%
above 18 years (please specify) 8 13.33%

So as you can see, anonymity works just fine.

[Steven L. Akins]

Originally Posted by Bev

No, you haven't said 14 in so many words however your choice of photos and your "nice pull Jeremy" says otherwise.

As for honesty, that's the point of anonymity. I've been so, so reluctant to link to this ancient thread because it's just a clusterf*ck of depravity but if it proves my point:

http://vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t...hlight=consent



So as you can see, anonymity works just fine.

Fair enough; though I'd be more interested in seeing the results of a scientific study of male physical response to girls of different ages to see what the true baseline age of maximum attraction is across the board.

[Bev]

Originally Posted by Steven L. Akins

Fair enough; though I'd be more interested in seeing the results of a scientific study of male physical response to girls of different ages to see what the true baseline age of maximum attraction is across the board.

It would be interesting to see your test and then see it repeated with the same men and the same girls, but this time with their ages put on the photographs.

Then you could properly judge whether it was a genuine attraction, a reaction to societal pressures and if societal pressures have any effect on the outcome.

[Steven L. Akins]

Originally Posted by Bev

No, you haven't said 14 in so many words however your choice of photos and your "nice pull Jeremy" says otherwise.

As for honesty, that's the point of anonymity. I've been so, so reluctant to link to this ancient thread because it's just a clusterf*ck of depravity but if it proves my point:

http://vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t...hlight=consent



So as you can see, anonymity works just fine.

View Poll Results: What age of consent would you consider optimal
12 years 7 11.67%
13 years 1 1.67%
14 years 2 3.33%
15 years 6 10.00%
16 years 12 20.00%
17 years 7 11.67%
18 years 17 28.33%
above 18 years (please specify) 8 13.33%

What I see is that the majority of men that responded to this poll are in agreement with me, that the optimal age of attractiveness is between 12 and 16 years of age (47%) while an additional 40% preferred girls aged 16-18, while less than 14% felt girls over 18 were the optimal age.

Clearly my tastes are shared by the majority of men.

[andy]

Originally Posted by Angel Ramsey

Why does it not surprise me that Akins would be on a pedophile thread.

Indeed his whole persona as depicted here indicates a sexual deviant of the worse kind.He is the sort of nonce that British authorities aim at legitimate nationalism to bring it into disrepute with the voting public.His perpetual commentary and fishing topic threads indicate he maybe doing the self same thing in the US.He is on a government stipend and self evidently incapable of earning an independent living on obvious pressure point for state or federal agencies to blackmail him into designating himself a white nationalist and bringing WN into disrepute in the eyes of the public.

In conclusion mahdik akins is bogus Scotsman,a bogus white nationalist.He is insincere self evidently not one of us,whether he is one of them with his baddiel like features and welfare check is moot but as i say he 'aint one of us.

[Henry.]

Originally Posted by Steven L. Akins

Fair enough; though I'd be more interested in seeing the results of a scientific study of male physical response to girls of different ages to see what the true baseline age of maximum attraction is across the board.

There is a test of that sort and it's designed for just that purpose.

If you ask Bev nicely she'll tell you exactly what it is and what it's called in case you wish to pursue it

[Steven L. Akins]

Originally Posted by Bev

It would be interesting to see your test and then see it repeated with the same men and the same girls, but this time with their ages put on the photographs.

Then you could properly judge whether it was a genuine attraction, a reaction to societal pressures and if societal pressures have any effect on the outcome.

You know it would alter the outcome; social programming vs. natural instinct has that effect.

[Bev]

Originally Posted by Steven L. Akins

What I see is that the majority of men that responded to this poll are in agreement with me, that the optimal age of attractiveness is between 12 and 16 years of age (47%) while an additional 40% preferred girls aged 16-18, while less than 14% felt girls over 18 were the optimal age.

Clearly my tastes are shared by the majority of men.

Have you been to the Donald E Pauly school of spin?

16 is fine. It's legal.

So looking at it again, we see that 16 respondents were perverts and 44 respondents were not. Make it 43, because I voted for 16, if I remember correctly.

[Bev]

Originally Posted by Henry.

There is a test of that sort and it's designed for just that purpose.

If you ask Bev nicely she'll tell you exactly what it is and what it's called in case you wish to pursue it

I've forgotten its name - I'll shoot Yoder an email and see if he can tell me.

Originally Posted by Steven L. Akins

You know it would alter the outcome; social programming vs. natural instinct has that effect.

But don't you think that sometimes, social programming serves a good purpose? Not every time, obviously, but it prevents one from picking one's nose in a crowded restaurant, or letting one off in front of the boss/vicar or whatever.

In my opinion, this social programming that tells adult men to leave minor children alone is a good one.

[Bev]

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[andy]

Originally Posted by Bev

Have you been to the Donald E Pauly school of spin?

16 is fine. It's legal.

So looking at it again, we see that 16 respondents were perverts and 44 respondents were not. Make it 43, because I voted for 16, if I remember correctly.

Why indulge the swine with debate he is on his own proud admission a sexual deviant.Stoned out his skull this virgin is fantasising about raping children while dressed as an ersatz scotsman .He should be slotted and anyone in the US in his locale should be mounting a counter intelligence profile on him.He has the exact persona and legend of the state backed deviants that have been aimed at nationalist parties in the UK and europe for decades.Reo is his twin brother in all senses of the word

[Bev]

Originally Posted by andy

Why indulge the swine with debate he is on his own proud admission a sexual deviant.Stoned out his skull this virgin is fantasising about raping children while dressed as an ersatz scotsman .He should be slotted and anyone in the US in his locale should be mounting a counter intelligence profile on him.He has the exact persona and legend of the state backed deviants that have been aimed at nationalist parties in the UK and europe for decades.Reo is his twin brother in all senses of the word

Mainly for the benefit of lurkers and guests.

[The Truth At Last]

Hate to agree with that andy chap Bev but Akins is a fat attention seeking pervert who should be ignored .

[Bev]

Originally Posted by The Truth At Last

Hate to agree with that andy chap Bev but Akins is a fat attention seeking pervert who should be ignored .

Quite probably, but you know how UK newspapers and antis like to pick up select quotes from forums - at least if people e-slap him they'll see there's opposition to his views and it might make them think twice about using any quotes and spinning it as representative of British nationalism. Look how many hits SF got after a Sunday paper printed a few quotes from a Question Time (I think) thread.