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Old May 7th, 2012 #41
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Just like NSDAP and Hamas - the GD help real people with real-world problems. Then they get a little bit of the vote - even with all the System against them. It's a start.

Again I will underline the point that functional conservatives such as MacDonald and the rest of the self-proclaimed high-roaders don't understand: humans are just animals with airs. They are not essentially creatures of belief but of fear. They don't run toward what they like, they run away from what scares them. Think about it. Politics is largely the organization of intimidation and bluffing - an analog to what we see among male animals in the rut season.

"The people don't agree with us. We must put on a new shirt! Say less what we mean! Grin like Miss American contestants!"

Actually, chachi, that has shit-all to do with our reception. The people are with us, at least more than they're with ZOG. But only latently are they leucosexuals. They will only come out of the closet when their fear of something else is greater than their fear of the penalties ZOG can level.

Very, very simple stuff. Warmfront doesn't get it. TOO doesn't get it. Very few nominal WN get it. Golden Dawn gets it.

And when the fear is gone, nobody cares if the GD are physically violent, wear jew-hated jewelry, use jew-unapproved terms. All the people know is GD solves real-world problems. That breeds support and loyalty.
With all the talk about Kalispell, Montana going on I would hope and pray that something similar is going on there.

Anyway, it is a great start, they ended up a couple points ahead of where the polls predicted, suggesting that their support is underestimated due to people being afraid to be honest with the pollsters...or media trying to knock back their support a couple of points.

You make a good point about "Jew approved/unapproved," though Klan robes and Nazi uniforms are horrible ideas due the human garbage they have consistently attracted over the decades since WWII, and their flat out ridiculousness of them from an aesthetics perspective.

Rounder had the right idea in terms of uniforms back in the 80s. Militant, not conservative, yet American and dignified.
 
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Another good thing about Golden Dawn, much like the NDP in Germany, they seem to engage in lots of "community building," one article even quoted some elderly Greeks stating they call GD before they call the police when they have trouble with immigrant criminals.

WNs the world over should be paying attention to Golden Dawn, and taking notes.
Exactly, WN's should be paying very close attention.

Golden Dawn is no joke, their activities were not confined just to Greece.

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The Greek Volunteer Guard (Serbian: Grčka Dobrovoljačka Garda, Greek: Ελληνική Εθελοντική Φρουρά) was a unit of Greek volunteers that fought in the Bosnian War on the side of Bosnian Serbs. Members of the unit participated in the Srebrenica Massacre and reportedly hoisted a Greek flag over the town on Ratko Mladić's instigation.[1][2]
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Some of the volunteers had links with Chrysi Avyi (Χρυσή Αυγή, "Golden Dawn"), a Greek neo-Nazi organisation,[4] and others were mercenaries. They were allegedly motivated to support their "Orthodox brothers" in battle.[5] Archbishop Seraphim of Athens had invited Bosnian Serb leader Radovan Karadžić to visit Athens in 1993. At a mass rally attended by prominent politicians, Karadžić proclaimed: "We have only God and the Greeks on our side."[6]

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Another good thing about GD is that they attack and beat up filthy shiptar illegals in cities and towns. Geeece, like Serbia is infested with shiptar criminals who murder rape and deal drugs. If GD ever took full control of the country it would be a very dark day for shiptars and their backers in the Greek media and government.
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Interesting, I had heard of the foreign fighters in that war, did not know, or had forgotten that GD was involved,

Wasn't there some half black half Swedish guy fighting for the Serbs? He was identified as a "Neo-Nazi" as well.

Anyway it seems Golden Dawn's road was a long hard fought one...I still do not see many "compromises" they made to break through...as opposed to the much debated ones made by say the BNP.

I see they refuse to call themselves "Nazis," but rather "Greek patriots," and point out many of their ancestors fought the Nazis hard, but since they have the quasi-Swasi logo, and limit membership to "Aryans of Greek descent," and of course their stated policies and known street actions...well it sure is hard to see how they have "softened" like the FN, BNP, Haider's BZO etc.
 
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This also has a bit to do with the diffferent mentality of south and north Europeans {Meds and Nords}.

People in the south are much more fiery, emotional and passionate, they can be aroused and inflamed much easier, unlike the cold reserved emotionless north Europeans. Not that there is anything wrong with the northern way, it is even prefered in day to day smooth and orderly functioning of society, but it can be a big negative when it comes to hard-core polictics, especially anti jew politics, which require blood passion and spirit combined with strong sense of ehtnocentricity.

Well put. How stirring it is to hear a politician speak with the force of genuine passion & commitment - so different from the plastic mealy-mouthed jew whores we have to endure in the U.S. and Northern Europe, with their oh-so carefully controlled gestures & tones ("Not too loud or strident, now - women don't like that") and their shit-eating grins.....

If only we had proportional representation.....

This Golden Dawn is very exciting. May they go from strength to strength.
 
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Wasn't there some half black half Swedish guy fighting for the Serbs? He was identified as a "Neo-Nazi" as well.

LOL!

No blacks fought for the Serbs.

The guy you refer to was Jackie Arklov and he fought with the Croatians against Serbs. The nigger scum actually thought that he was a Neo Nazi fighting communism in the former Yugoslavia.




Jackie Banny Arklöv (born 6 June 1973[1]) is a Swedish convicted criminal. Arklöv is an ex-neo-Nazi and former mercenary[2] in the Yugoslav wars, who murdered two police officers during a botched robbery in 1999.[3][dead link]

Arklöv was born in Liberia; his mother was black and his father was white. At the age of three he was adopted by a couple from a small village in northern Sweden, and in his teens he developed a strong interest in Nazism and World War II. Later on he wrote a letter to the neonazi-organisation Nationalsocialistisk Front that was published in their official magazine.

Arklöv participated voluntarily in the war in Yugoslavia in the 1990s, as a mercenary on the Croatian side when he was only 19 years old.
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Neo-Nazi party plots rise after Greek elections

Greece’s major parties were still in shock Monday from the drubbing voters dealt them in Sunday’s national elections.



[Far-right Golden Dawn leader Nikolaos Michaloliakos speaks during a news conference in front of a banner with the twisting Maeander, an ancient Greek decorative motif that the party has adopted as its symbol in Athens, Sunday, May 6, 2012. The party won enough votes Sunday to earn seats in the Parliament. Petros Giannakouris / AP]

ATHENS, Greece - Election advertisements for Greece’s far-right Golden Dawn party called for “taking the dirt out of the country,” “cleaning up Athens” and planting landmines along the borders to stop illegal immigrants from crossing in.

On Sunday, Golden Dawn won enough votes to earn seats in the Parliament, and now Greeks – and the estimated 1 million foreign immigrants here – are bracing to see how the party, with its swastika-like logo and the black-shirted toughs who come to its rallies, will try to commandeer the debate.

Greece’s major parties were still in shock Monday from the drubbing voters dealt them in Sunday’s national elections, and it seemed increasingly unlikely they could form a new government. Antonis Samaras, whose right-of-center New Democracy party finished a weak first place, abandoned an attempt to form a new coalition government after just six hours Monday.

Expectations were low that the surprise second-place winner, the Radical Left coalition headed by Aleksis Tsipras, would be able to assemble a left-of-center government, and chances were put at rock bottom for the socialist PASOK, headed by Evangelos Venizelos, which had led the outgoing government but fell to third place in Sunday’s balloting.

If all three parties fail, and President Karolos Papoulias is unable to summon a national unity government, then Papoulias is required by law to call new elections in one month.

A majority of Greek voters either stayed home or cast their ballots for fringe parties Sunday, with one vote in five going to a party that fell below the 3 percent threshold for entering the Parliament.

Golden Dawn was among the few parties celebrating Sunday’s results. It won 21 seats in the 300-seat Parliament after garnering nearly 7 percent of the vote, an immense gain over the 0.3 percent it obtained in the 2009 parliamentary elections.

The issue that put the party into Parliament was illegal immigration, a topic that major parties had largely refused to touch until the eve of Sunday’s elections, when Samaras denounced illegal immigrants as “tyrants.” But Golden Dawn, whose advertisements also featured the burning of American and Israeli flags, has many even more controversial positions, such its call for unifying Greece with Cyprus, a move tried by the Greek military regime in 1974 that led to the Turkish invasion of the island. Cyprus has remained divided ever since.

In his victory speech Sunday, Golden Dawn leader Nikos Michaloliakos also called for the “liberation” of Northern Epirus, an area of neighboring Albania that has many Greek-speaking inhabitants.

Michaloliakos first became known internationally when he was elected to the Athens city council in 2010 and gave a stiff-armed, Nazi-style salute.

One of the main reasons Golden Dawn has been able to expand its base is that Greece now has as many as 1 million immigrants, many of them from North Africa, Afghanistan or Bangladesh, possibly as many as half of them illegal.

After a Greek man was killed in May 2011, reputedly by Afghan immigrants, Golden Dawn militants stopped traffic every afternoon for weeks, hauled immigrants off of public transport and beat them up, according to Marina Vichou, formerly a journalist with the BBC Greek service, who lives close by the scene and witnessed some of the incidents. “The police did nothing but protected Golden Dawn,” she told McClatchy.

http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/05/0...#storylink=cpy
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Greek Unease Fuels Rise Of Far-Right 'Golden Dawn'

The Golden Dawn bookshop sells Hitler's Mein Kampf and other neo-Nazi propaganda. But Panagiotaros sidesteps a question about members' use of the Nazi salute.

"You call it Nazi salute. That was how they were saluting in ancient Rome, in ancient Greece, so we consider this ancient Greek saluting," he says....

Audio: http://www.npr.org/player/v2/mediaPl...23&m=151915969




http://www.npr.org/2012/05/03/151915...ces-parliament
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SEEMO Concerned by Media Pressure in Greece

Tuesday, 8 May 2012, 12:25 pm
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Group Calls on All Political Parties to Respect Democratic Principles

VIENNA, May 7, 2012 – The Vienna-based South East Media Organisation (SEEMO), an affiliate of the International Press Institute (IPI), is concerned by the latest pressures and threats exerted on the media by the Greek Golden Dawn party. The party, commonly described as a radical, right-wing party, obtained 6.9 percent of the votes, or 21 out of 300 seats in the Greek parliament, during the May 6, 2012 elections.

On the evening following the election, Golden Dawn leader Nikolaos Michaloliakos appeared at his first press conference after the elections. As reporters were waiting for Michaloliakos to arrive, party members ordered journalists to stand to show respect for him. When some journalists refused to obey the orders they were expelled from the room, as shown on a video posted on the website of Protothema. According to Greek media outlets To Vima and Protothema, mostly foreign journalists remained in the room.


In another previous incident on April 12, 2012, Greek journalist Xenia Kounalaki published a story on Golden Dawn in the Kathimerini daily, explaining why she considered it impossible to have a dialogue with them. Five days later, she wrote in German weekly Der Spiegel: “An anonymous reply to my article appeared on the Golden Dawn website. It was a 2,500-word-long personal attack… [they] recounted my entire career, mocked my alleged foreign roots (I was born in Hamburg) and even, for no apparent reason, mentioned my 13-year-old daughter. The unnamed authors indirectly threatened me as well: ‘To put it in the mother tongue of foreign Xenia: “Kommt Zeit, kommt Rat, kommt Attentat!” ’ In other words, watch your back.”

“I am very worried by these developments,” Oliver Vujovic, SEEMO secretary general, said. “All political parties have to respect democratic principles and press freedom. However, in one month, the Golden Dawn party threatened one journalist and obliged reporters to stand to salute the party leader or leave the press conference. I hope that these incidents will be isolated cases and that the Golden Dawn leaders will respect democratic principles.”

http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/WO120...-in-greece.htm
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After a Greek man was killed in May 2011, reputedly by Afghan immigrants, Golden Dawn militants stopped traffic every afternoon for weeks, hauled immigrants off of public transport and beat them up, according to Marina Vichou, formerly a journalist with the BBC Greek service, who lives close by the scene and witnessed some of the incidents. “The police did nothing but protected Golden Dawn,” she told McClatchy.
Short of Breivik and the many fine vids the Russians have made in the past few years showing themselves publically pummeling, thumping, and critically maiming non-White vaders, it doesn't get much better than this.
 
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I'm listening to the "unbiased" NPR. Funny how everything is "unstable" when real Patriots start to gain traction. They hate it. But elect a half jewish socialist in France who promises more destructive anti-white policies, and everything is fine with the world.

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This also has a bit to do with the diffferent mentality of south and north Europeans {Meds and Nords}.

People in the south are much more fiery, emotional and passionate, they can be aroused and inflamed much easier, unlike the cold reserved emotionless north Europeans. Not that there is anything wrong with the northern way, it is even prefered in day to day smooth and orderly functioning of society, but it can be a big negative when it comes to hard-core polictics, especially anti jew politics, which require blood passion and spirit combined with strong sense of ehtnocentricity.
Well, I think all peoples are emotional, it's just buried deeper in the more northerly. Get, say, Germans, a little drunk, or in some kind of overt street politics, they are plenty emotional. In fact, their coldness is almost more to the point. They are more matter of fact about politics when it comes to accepting difference, even difference at the level of willing-to-kill-over. Which I liked, when I discovered it. Whereas in America, we have a more underlying female attitude: everybody has to agree or something's wrong. Germans seem to take it for granted that disagreement even on the deepest stuff is normal. Americans are very uncomfortable when The (artificial) Consensus is departed from, even on small stuff. Golden Dawn, after all, is copying Nazi approaches, not vice versa.
 
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You make a good point about "Jew approved/unapproved," though Klan robes
Klan robes were intended to scare people, or, well, niggers at least. If they fail in that office, then they become clown gear - they cause laughter not fear. You have to be smarter than 100% of today's Klansmen to understand that, though, so they'll keep on wearing them.

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and Nazi uniforms are horrible ideas due the human garbage they have consistently attracted over the decades since WWII, and their flat out ridiculousness of them from an aesthetics perspective.
NS symbols and gear aren't necessarily a deal-breaker, in my opinion. But they look a lot more persuasive when they're coating men who are numerous and in shape.

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Rounder had the right idea in terms of uniforms back in the 80s. Militant, not conservative, yet American and dignified.
Yep, I think that would fill the bill.
 
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With all the talk about Kalispell, Montana going on I would hope and pray that something similar is going on there.
Who knows. Lots of huffing and puffing, but no real evidence that I've seen that many people have moved there.
 
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Another good thing about GD is that they attack and beat up filthy shiptar illegals in cities and towns. Geeece, like Serbia is infested with shiptar criminals who murder rape and deal drugs. If GD ever took full control of the country it would be a very dark day for shiptars and their backers in the Greek media and government.
What exactly is a shiptar? Is that a real thing or slang for something?
 
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The origin of the ethnic name Shqiptar:

Gustav Meyer derived Shqiptar from the Albanian verbs shqipoj (to speak clearly) and shqiptoj (to speak out, pronounce), which are in turn derived from the Latin verb excipere, denoting brethren who speak the Albanian language, similar to the ethno-linguistic dichotomies Sloven-Nemac and Deutsch-Wälsch.[1] This is the theory also sustained by Robert Elsie.[2]

A theory by Ludwig Thallóczy, Milan Šufflay and Konstantin Jireček, which is today considered obsolete, derived the name from a Drivastine family name recorded in varying forms during the 14th century: Schepuder (1368), Scapuder (1370), Schipudar, Schibudar (1372), Schipudar (1383, 1392), Schapudar (1402), etc.

Maximilian Lambertz derived the word from the Albanian noun shqipe,or shqiponjë (eagle), which, according to Albanian folk etymology, denoted a bird totem dating from the times of Skanderbeg, as displayed on the Albanian flag.[3]

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Neo-Nazi party plots rise after Greek elections

Greece’s major parties were still in shock Monday from the drubbing voters dealt them in Sunday’s national elections.



[Far-right Golden Dawn leader Nikolaos Michaloliakos speaks during a news conference in front of a banner with the twisting Maeander, an ancient Greek decorative motif that the party has adopted as its symbol in Athens, Sunday, May 6, 2012. The party won enough votes Sunday to earn seats in the Parliament. Petros Giannakouris / AP]

ATHENS, Greece - Election advertisements for Greece’s far-right Golden Dawn party called for “taking the dirt out of the country,” “cleaning up Athens” and planting landmines along the borders to stop illegal immigrants from crossing in.

On Sunday, Golden Dawn won enough votes to earn seats in the Parliament, and now Greeks – and the estimated 1 million foreign immigrants here – are bracing to see how the party, with its swastika-like logo and the black-shirted toughs who come to its rallies, will try to commandeer the debate.

[Does A3P have any toughs? Why not? When is it going to get some? A party that can't physically defend itself might as well not exist.]

Greece’s major parties were still in shock Monday from the drubbing voters dealt them in Sunday’s national elections, and it seemed increasingly unlikely they could form a new government. Antonis Samaras, whose right-of-center New Democracy party finished a weak first place, abandoned an attempt to form a new coalition government after just six hours Monday.

Expectations were low that the surprise second-place winner, the Radical Left coalition headed by Aleksis Tsipras, would be able to assemble a left-of-center government, and chances were put at rock bottom for the socialist PASOK, headed by Evangelos Venizelos, which had led the outgoing government but fell to third place in Sunday’s balloting.

If all three parties fail, and President Karolos Papoulias is unable to summon a national unity government, then Papoulias is required by law to call new elections in one month.

A majority of Greek voters either stayed home or cast their ballots for fringe parties Sunday, with one vote in five going to a party that fell below the 3 percent threshold for entering the Parliament.

Golden Dawn was among the few parties celebrating Sunday’s results. It won 21 seats in the 300-seat Parliament after garnering nearly 7 percent of the vote, an immense gain over the 0.3 percent it obtained in the 2009 parliamentary elections.

The issue that put the party into Parliament was illegal immigration, a topic that major parties had largely refused to touch until the eve of Sunday’s elections, when Samaras denounced illegal immigrants as “tyrants.” But Golden Dawn, whose advertisements also featured the burning of American and Israeli flags, has many even more controversial positions, such its call for unifying Greece with Cyprus, a move tried by the Greek military regime in 1974 that led to the Turkish invasion of the island. Cyprus has remained divided ever since.

In his victory speech Sunday, Golden Dawn leader Nikos Michaloliakos also called for the “liberation” of Northern Epirus, an area of neighboring Albania that has many Greek-speaking inhabitants.

Michaloliakos first became known internationally when he was elected to the Athens city council in 2010 and gave a stiff-armed, Nazi-style salute.

One of the main reasons Golden Dawn has been able to expand its base is that Greece now has as many as 1 million immigrants, many of them from North Africa, Afghanistan or Bangladesh, possibly as many as half of them illegal.

After a Greek man was killed in May 2011, reputedly by Afghan immigrants, Golden Dawn militants stopped traffic every afternoon for weeks, hauled immigrants off of public transport and beat them up, according to Marina Vichou, formerly a journalist with the BBC Greek service, who lives close by the scene and witnessed some of the incidents. “The police did nothing but protected Golden Dawn,” she told McClatchy.

http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/05/0...#storylink=cpy

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Well, I think all peoples are emotional, it's just buried deeper in the more northerly. Get, say, Germans, a little drunk, or in some kind of overt street politics, they are plenty emotional. In fact, their coldness is almost more to the point. They are more matter of fact about politics when it comes to accepting difference, even difference at the level of willing-to-kill-over. Which I liked, when I discovered it. Whereas in America, we have a more underlying female attitude: everybody has to agree or something's wrong. Germans seem to take it for granted that disagreement even on the deepest stuff is normal. Americans are very uncomfortable when The (artificial) Consensus is departed from, even on small stuff. Golden Dawn, after all, is copying Nazi approaches, not vice versa.
It seems to me that there are a lot more smears and epithets in English than in German, and this makes sense if you see departure from artificial consensus as a terrible thing, rather than irreconcilable division being normal. The latter encourges fighting to resolve differences; the former encourages name-calling and witch-hunting to bring people back into the fold via ritual shaming. I speculate Germanic cultureds are less bothered by name-calling than English cultureds.

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The origin of the ethnic name Shqiptar:

Gustav Meyer derived Shqiptar from the Albanian verbs shqipoj (to speak clearly) and shqiptoj (to speak out, pronounce), which are in turn derived from the Latin verb excipere, denoting brethren who speak the Albanian language, similar to the ethno-linguistic dichotomies Sloven-Nemac and Deutsch-Wälsch.[1] This is the theory also sustained by Robert Elsie.[2]

A theory by Ludwig Thallóczy, Milan Šufflay and Konstantin Jireček, which is today considered obsolete, derived the name from a Drivastine family name recorded in varying forms during the 14th century: Schepuder (1368), Scapuder (1370), Schipudar, Schibudar (1372), Schipudar (1383, 1392), Schapudar (1402), etc.

Maximilian Lambertz derived the word from the Albanian noun shqipe,or shqiponjë (eagle), which, according to Albanian folk etymology, denoted a bird totem dating from the times of Skanderbeg, as displayed on the Albanian flag.[3]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shqiptar
Thanks. I guess that means a Shiptar is more or less an Albanian.
 
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