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Old January 29th, 2008 #1
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Craig Cobb did an excellent job posting these videos. It is amazing that even back during the Stone Age the Aryan's technology was cutting edge and out paced the muds.

Euros Are First Americans - Part 1
Euros Are First Americans- Part 2
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Those are awesome, informative videos. I hope everyone takes time to check them out - it is well worth it! Thank you for posting them.
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First Americans May Have Been European

By Bjorn Carey, LiveScience Staff Writer
posted: 19 February 2006 08:16 pm ET

Examples of Clovis and other Paleoindian point forms.
Markers of archaeological cultures in the Northeastern
part of North America.


ST. LOUIS—The first humans to spread across North America may have been seal hunters from France and Spain. This runs counter to the long-held belief that the first human entry into the Americas was a crossing of a land-ice bridge that spanned the Bering Strait about 13,500 years ago.
The new thinking was outlined here Sunday at the annual meeting of the American Association for the Advancement of Science.

The tools don’t match
Recent studies have suggested that the glaciers that helped form the bridge connecting Siberia and Alaska began receding around 17,000 to 13,000 years ago, leaving very little chance that people walked from one continent to the other.
Also, when archaeologist Dennis Stanford of the Smithsonian Institution places American spearheads, called Clovis points, side-by-side with Siberian points, he sees a divergence of many characteristics.
Instead, Stanford said today, Clovis points match up much closer with Solutrean style tools, which researchers date to about 19,000 years ago. This suggests that the American people making Clovis points made Solutrean points before that.
There’s just one problem with this hypothesis—Solutrean toolmakers lived in France and Spain. Scientists know of no land-ice bridge that spanned that entire gap.

The lost hunting party
Stanford has an idea for how humans crossed the Atlantic, though—boats. Art from that era indicates that Solutrean populations in northern Spain were hunting marine animals, such as seals, walrus, and tuna.
They may have even made their way into the floating ice chunks that unite immense harp seal populations in Canada and Europe each year. Four million seals, Stanford said, would look like a pretty good meal to hungry European hunters, who might have ventured into the ice flows much the same way that the Inuit in Alaska and Greenland do today.
Inuit use large, open hunting boats constructed from animal skins for longer trips or big hunts. These boats, called umiaq, can hold a dozen adults, as well as several children, dead seals or walruses, and even dog-sled teams. Inuit have been building these boats for thousands of years, and Stanford believes that Solutrean people may have used a similar design.
It’s possible that some groups of these hunters ventured out as far as Iceland, where they may have gotten caught up in the prevailing currents and were carried to North America.
“You get three boats loaded up like this and you would have a viable population,” Stanford said. “You could actually get a whole bunch of people washing up on Nova Scotia.”
Some scientists believe that the Solutrean peoples were responsible for much of the cave art in Europe. Opponents of Stanford’s work ask why, then, would these people stop producing art once they made it to North America?
“I don’t know,” Stanford said. “But you’re looking at a long distance inland, 100 miles or so, before they would get to caves to do art in.”
 
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Archaeological evidence points to Whites having come over from Europe first.

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YouTube - Ice age Columbus part 1/9
In the hivemind of multicult-lobotomized xian kwans, anything that happened before 6000 b.c.e. doesn't involve human beings. Or the Earth.

That was before Big-kike-in-the-sky a.k.a. YAHWEH created everything, remember?
Can't have happened.

Nevertheless, here is another video on the subject:
http://www.vnnforum.com/video.php?do...s&videoid=1208
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Spew, no one except you watches your laughable YouTube videos. Try some primary sources in peer reviewed journals instead, like you actually managed with Acuna-Soto's research on cocoliztli epidemics in sixteenth century Mexico.
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Spew, no one except you watches your laughable YouTube videos. Try some primary sources in peer reviewed journals instead, like you actually managed with Acuna-Soto's research on cocoliztli epidemics in sixteenth century Mexico.
Yet you come here often.

Primary sources are not journals, they exist in real life.

Buildings, ancient writings and carvings, statues, cities, skeletons, artifacts and geological formations are primary sources.

Journals are not sources at all, they describe the sources.

Millions of White people watch these shows, listen to them on radio, buy the books, attend the conferences.

The truth is emerging, piecemeal, slowly and surely.



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Good stuff, Hugh. I know there's a whole underground archaeology scene, but I don't follow it. Lots of magazines and private diggers.
 
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With regards to the Solutrean stone tools, they were more sophisticated then than those stone tools and weapons used by the "Indians" when the Whites returned to the US. Thus todays "Indians" did not make them.

With regards to the DNA and the Altai, after 1600 years of Huns and Mongols from that area of Mongolia and southern Siberia slave raiding into Europe, and bringing back home tens of thousands of White slaves, mostly women and children, of course there would be White blood mixed in with theirs, which is why there are matches in Asia as those Mongolians moved into the Americas. Why do people think that Mongolians crossed into the Americas thousands of years ago, and then suddenly stopped, and none more have crossed over for the last 10 000 years?

Huns/Mongolians are not at all likely to have moved across into N. America and down through Canada on foot, but could quite easily do so after taming the horse, but before inventing the compound bow. Mongolians have no tradition of boat building in Mongolia. One cannot walk thousands of miles from Mongolia through Alaska, Canada and down into C America. One can easily ride.They had to know where they were going. We know that the Chinese were sailing around long before BC, as were the Indians, and would have know of the Americas.

Thus between 200 BC and 200 AD, as Rome was too powerful for them to move west, and China stopped them moving east and south.

After 400 ad they had the compound bow, which N. American Mongolians don't have, and Rome was so weak they could easily penetrate into Europe. Why go to Alaska when you can go to Italy?

It's convenient politically to omit this fact, as by omitting it, it both buries down the memory hole that for most of history, certainly the last 1700 years, it's been Mongols invading White lands, and massacring and enslaving whites.
It also then enables them to avoid the fact that most Mongols would have some trace of White blood from raping tens of thousands of White female slaves for 1700 years. On average each invading Hun and later Mongol warrior had 5 horses with him, so transporting slaves home was never a problem.

We know that the Mongols ruled modern day Russia for over 200 years, and that the Huns and Magyars settled into large parts of Hungary where they have lived and bred into the Slav population there for over 1600 years.

The White red haired Tocharians lived along the trade and travel routes the Mongols used when trading with the Middle East for several thousdand years, and along which they travelled when invading.

Naturally the Mongols would not pass by rich towns and cities and villages filled with whites on their way to and from raiding in Europe. Most probably they first raided and killed and enslaved Tocharian Whites, then when there was nothing left to steal, began raiding deeper into Europe.


The best proof that Whites built the C American buildings occurs when one looks at the world i.e. in context

1) One can draw a straight line 25000 miles long, 100 miles wide at exactly 30 degrees to the equator from Giza on through Petra, Ur, Persepolis, Mohenjo Daro, Angkor Wat, Easter island, Macchu Pichu, Nazca, and end up back at the Giza pyramid. That shows there was a global plan with these buildings.

b) one can draw a straight line from the pyramids at Teohuanaco through Giza to the pyramids at Shen Hsi situated deep inside china

2) all these major pyramids incorporate pi, phi i.e the golden ratio used throughout Western art of 1:618, precession, the number 72, are all aligned themselves or their temple complexes to Sirius and Orion, to the cardinal points, Equinox, Solstice

3) the exact same construction techniques of clearing a foundation, laying interlocking irregularly shaped stones to make them earthquake proof, then building using immense irregularly shaped stones to make the walls earthquake proof,

4) that cities built the exact same way have been found abandoned in the jungle that have been uninhabited for several thousand years, so could not have been built by the Aztecs etc.

5) there are no markings, carvings indicating a date, and most are in fact totally unadorned, In many cases carvings and paitings on them have been made many years afterwards

6) that Whites from classical times to today build using those same formulas

7) the natives living in such places are unable to show ability to use such maths, are unable to duplicate the building techniques, most actually say that the buildings were built by Whites, or that they found them abandoned.

8) when the conquistadores arrived, as well as white settlers from Europe after Columbus, they found numerous small tribes of whites on islands e.g. the Guanches, or Mongolians with white features e.g. blue eyes or light hair, some spoke a dialect of Welsh, there are pyramids all over N America, as well as large massive stone circles just like in Europe, with the same alignments, massive burial mounds shaped just like those of the Celts, stone houses and huts, massive carvings of animals, and in all cases, the local indians claim it was their ancestors, but can't duplicate them, can't explain what they are, can't read the writings, all excavations are prohibited, all finds are immediately shut down. Few know of the 8 and 9 foot red haired skeletons found, the abandoned cities, the underwater roads. N America was a built environment at one time. No doubt the Whites built it up, used non-whites as cheap labour, were outbred and wiped out, as we can see across the US and Europe today. Did Blacks build Detroit? Where are those Whites or the Whites in formerly Dutch Harlem, say New York?
The Indians say the Whites sailed away, promising to return.

9) mummified bodies, and in some cases skeletons and skulls- some still with hair on them, of the Whites who lived there, mostly red haired e.g. in Nazca, Peru have been found

10) the N American Mongolians say that when they arrived, they found giant White people with red hair already living there, who they killed

11) archaeologists state that the buildings were built long before the Aztecs, Incas and Mayans arrived

12) the archaeologists state that the mother culture was the Olmec culture and display statues of the "Olmecs" which are clearly of Blacks, Whites, Middle Easterners and Upper caste Chinese i.e. with pointed as opposed to flat negro type noses, and none at all that resemble the Mongolians. The writings found on these statues are "not yet readable" though some match West African writings, and the round heads of Blacks wear the same caps as Nubian troops wore in Egypt.
On Easter Island, the statues are of people with long noses, that do not resemble the Islanders or any Polynesians, and the writings on the oldest statues use in many cases symbols that are exactly the same as those at Mohenjo Daro in Pakistan

13) the vast number of carvings in C America and statues are mostly of Middle Easterners, whose style of clothing and beards matches those of statues and carvings in ancient Mesopotamia

14) many of the statues have horrific glares and expressions, often sticking the tongue right out and down onto the chin, exactly the same as the statues of demons and dragons made by Hindus and Buddhists.
Hinduism was brought into India by the White Aryans. Buddha was said to have blue eyes and pale skin, and the earliest statues of him show him with blue eyes

15) that the design and shape of the pyramids in Central America match those of the ziggurats in Mesopotamia

16) the method of cutting stone can only be made by specialised drills using special metals and often diamond coated drills and saws. The Mayans, Aztecs and Incas were using primitive stone or soft metal tools, wore feathers, bark and leather.

17) apart from the buildings above ground, there are immense stairways of stone too hard to have been cut using hand tools, as well as immense tunnels and passage networks running for miles underground, too regularly cut to have been chiselled

18) across these sites, there are stone vessels, in some cases made from stone harder than modern steel - 40 000 such have been found in Egypt, similar vessels and crystal skulls perfectly shaped in C. America. We are expected to believe
that Azetcs etc whose most sophisticated weapons were wooden clubs with pieces of stone in them made these.

19) its clear that Giza was used in ancient times as the Meridian, or 0 degrees longitude.

20) The measurements of Giza in metres using pi match :
a) the exact circumference of the earth
b) if one draws two circles one inside the pyramid touching the straight surfaces, and one outside the pyramid including the corners, and subtracts these lengths, one gets the exact speed of light

21) the Sphinx was built facing where the constellation of Leo was 11000 years ago, when the ice age ended.

22) The pyramids are built aligned to the sun. The Jews and Arabs/Muslims do not use the sun, they worship the moon e.g. the Muslim crescent is of the moon, have lunar months, and do not build using the same forumale, techniques, nor alignments. Cathedrals built from the beginning as well as well as the entire Vatican, are all observatories and solar clocks.

Its pretty clear from the over 200 towns and cities underwater in the Med, off the coast of Spain, off the coast of Florida, in India and Japan, all used these same massive blocks in construction. It's also clear that when the ice age ended, the poles shifted, and that all these pyramids are based on north after the end of the ice age.

We know from the grasses and grains in frozen mammoth stomachs found in modern Siberia, that the mammoths were eating in temperatures 5 C or higher. Some fish found still had pieces of smaller fish they had eaten in their stomachs.
Millions of animals, wolves, mammoths, wooly rhinos have all been found flash frozen, many with broken legs.
Thus they were in temperatures higher than 5 C, eating grass. Suddenly, within a couple of hours, their legs were broken, and they were flash frozen in temperatures 50 c below zero.

Clearly either the poles shifted themselves, or the earth moved, or the surface of the earth moved.The broken legs indicates massive earthquakes.

Most likely when the ice age ended, the two mile high ice once melted would have lifted tectonic plates, there would have been further earthquakes, global storms, tsunamis, as sea levels rose 120 metres, with tsunamis on that higher surface beign even higher, all coastal areas would have disappeared, as would all places next to large rovers, on flood plains,
or on the edges of lakes. We know that on average coastlines around the world extended 30 to 40 km's further out to sea than they do now, before the sea level rose. Large numbers of islands would have disappeared under the waves, and existing islands would have been far larger, but now greatly reduced in size. Central Americas coastlines would thus have been say 60 to 80 kms in total further out to sea, much may yet lie beneath the waves, and buried of the flood plains when all the rivers flooded.

Today if that happened, two thirds or more of the worlds population would die immediately, almost all major cites would disappear. Then there would be epidemics, volcanoes, earthquakes, crops would not grow, plants and vegetation would reduce so animals would die, fishing would be impossible.

Clearly some survived, then rebuilt once things had calmed down, to see what had changed, and to ensure their knowledge was passed on through the priesthoods. They were still capable after the flood to plan globally, and even mapped part of the coastline of Antarctica. The only two races capable of doing that in ancient times and today are the Whites and the Chinese.

It's also clear that Mongolians arrived relatively recently in N America, killed off the Whites, and moved into where the Whites had stayed. Detroit, Harlem, Compton and every inner city shows Blacks and Mongolians still doing this today.

Skulls on display show there were several species of humans found nowhere else but in C America several thousand years ago.
There was a species of humans with very long skulls, today found only amongst the Basques, who speak a language not related to any other European language.

Some of these long skulls occurred naturally, then around the world, suddenly people were artifically lengthening their childrens heads. Many of the statues around the world have extraordinarily long skulls. Likely the flood reduced several other species of makind to below critical mass, just like it did mammoths and saber tooth tigers and numerous other species, and they have mostly disappeared, been bred out, or killed.
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White European blood was introduced into China as early as 1800 BC when a Scythian tribe called the Tocharians settled in the Tarim Basin of the Xinjiang province of western China, which they held as their own until the 7th century AD when the region was invaded by Turkic immigrants from the collapsing Uyghur Khaganate of modern day Mongolia.

Tocharians were a White-skinned, fair-haired, blue-eyed people of European (R1a) DNA:





(Above and beloew): mummified bodies of ancient Tocharians discovered in Xinjiang, China.




 
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Summary - First Americans - Out of Europe


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[2007 - possibly Euro remains from 11,000 years ago, in Malibu]

The real-life Indiana Jones and the Mansion of Doom

Chris Ayres in Point Dume, Malibu

If Gary Stickel cuts a familiar figure with his wide-brimmed hat, dirty bomber jacket and mud-slathered boots, it is for good reason. His blend of erudition, shyness, dry humour and egotism were the inspiration for Indiana Jones, played by Harrison Ford in Raiders of the Lost Ark— down to Jones’s inability to spell “Neolithic”.

The real-life archaeologist hasn’t enjoyed the success of his celluloid alter ego, who earned $1.2 billion (£615 million) at the box office. At 62, Dr Stickel lives alone, is divorced, estranged from his daughter, and recovering from gout. “As far as archaeologists go, I think I’ve actually got a good personality,” he jokes.

Now he is about to initiate a blockbuster clash with some of Hollywood’s most redoubtable figures: the residents of Malibu. It’s exactly what you would expect of Indiana Jones — fighting to preserve an 11,000-year-old archaeological site on Point Dume, off the Pacific Coast Highway, which he says could hold the DNA answer to whether the first human beings in America were Asian or European.

Dr Stickel says it is the first site of its kind discovered on the 20,000 mile coastline from Alaska to Chile, but Malibu has no law to protect such sites. And the owner of the land is building a Mediterranean-style villa on her clifftop, valued at about $4 million. Dr Dennis Stanford of the Smithsonian Institution says the land is “nationally significant” and must be investigated.

“What’s happening here is barbaric,” says Dr Stickel, standing outside the barricades around the site. “Our history is important. And if it’s not important to her [the landowner], it’s important to many Americans, and other people.”

The owner is not a celebrity, but The Times has agreed not to publish the site’s location because of the risk of looting.

Dr Stickel’s struggle — Indiana Jones and the Mansion of Doom, as Hollywood might put it — began six years ago when the lot was bought for development. Under Malibu’s building code all sites must be surveyed for historical artefacts.

In 2005 Edgar Perez, a Native American, was helping to monitor the work, sifting through the dirt. “I was over there by that tree,” says Dr Stickel, “and Edgar starts yelling at me, ‘You’ve gotta see this’. He was holding up this thing, this speartip, and I said, ‘Oh my God’.”

The speartip was found to be up to 11,000 years old and distinctive “fluted flakes” on its base suggested that it belonged to the Clovis culture, named for the New Mexico site where the first such artefact was discovered in 1932. The culture is the subject of intense debate between archaeologists and Native Americans. Dr Stanford argues that because no speartips — known as Clovis Points — have been found in Siberia, from where the first Americans were supposed to have arrived, they must have come from the East Coast, via ice sheets linked with Europe, where there is a trail of Clovis discoveries. “They were from Iberia, not Siberia,” he once said of these settlers, who arrived 15,000 years before Columbus.

Native Americans are outraged at the idea that they might be related to those who infected them with smallpox and stole their land. Dr Stickel argues that any human remains could put an end to this debate with DNA evidence.

The owner of the land said: “I have followed all of the guide-lines, I have worked to preserve the integrity of the site, I have spent the money to comply (estimated at $100,000). Now I want to move into my house.”

Parts of the house have been built to allow future excavation, but Dr Stickel said that only 1 per cent of the settlement had been investigated.

He plans a press conference in Los Angeles, in the unlikely hope that public pressure will force something to happen. “This little thing here,” he says, holding up a relic of the Clovis speartip. “It’s my heaven, and her hell.”

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Ever since President Clinton had the Army Corps of Engineers bury the Kennewick Man site in Washington State under 150 thousand tonnes of rock and gravel to obliterate all archaelogical evidence there has been an undeclared war against digs that would suggest Europeans were the original Native Americans. I fear that this does not bode well for the real life Indy.

Sam, Salt Lake City,

Just more proof that the 'first nations' label can only be applied to the unknown link from ape to man. 'Unknown' being the key word,
for if we ever do find 'the first nation', many bureaucrats and the recipients of tax funded 'guilt money' will have to go look for a real job.

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Dr. Stickel, if you need help call me.
Since the Sandia Mts. in the 70's, I've been really tired of the "I've got the money so what's your problem" people building their houses anywhere they want despite the cost to society, culture and the USA in general. Isn't that kind of tunnel vision with no regard for history or the future dangerous? I can't seem to work thru reality to a place where I can sympathize with the home owner, but I wish I could. It would make living with the disposable generation less painful.

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[It is no exaggeration to say that a subspecies of sand flea would get more protection from ZOG than whatever lies in the ground at this Malibu site.]

Malibu Archaeological Find Is a Point of Contention

• Artifact Could Have Impact on North American Migration Theory While Roiling Local Waters

BY ANNE SOBLE

Malibu celebrity status can take many forms, but one of the more unusual recipients of local attention is a spearhead, or projectile point, that could have been used by hunters in the Clovis cultural era around 11,000 years ago to pursue a giant mammoth or buffalo in the vicinity of what is now Point Dume.

The so-called Clovis point even has its own media-savvy spokesperson, an archaeologist who consulted for the “Indiana Jones” film trilogy named Gary Stickel, who says the artifact is “a major discovery of national and international significance.” He also contends that the private property where the point was found, which has been designated Farpoint on the state archaeology rolls, should be the subject of additional research.

The point was found in September 2005 by Edgar Perez, a cultural resources specialist for the Tongva Tribe in Los Angeles, who was hired as the Native American monitor at a Point Dume residential construction site. Stickel said Perez was overseeing backhoe digging and spotted the spearhead in the bucket before it was crushed.

Dr. Stickel says that the crew’s elation at the find was not shared by the owner of the property, whose identity and address are not being disclosed to protect privacy as well as prevent vandalism of the site. He says the owner has questioned the authenticity of the artifact and prevents research from continuing at the site.

The archaeologist also contends that City of Malibu planning personnel have declined to cooperate with facilitating additional work at the location. He asserts that the city may have tried to block a press conference that Stickel scheduled last week on the grounds of the Page Museum with its backdrop of the La Brea Tar Pits, where examples of the animals that Clovis hunters stalked can be now seen.

Stickel says that a staffer at the museum told him that “the City of Malibu phoned,” then de*clined to elaborate further.

Malibu Surfside News calls to the municipal planning department for comment on Stickel’s assertions of what he calls “city censorship” were not returned.

Stickel says the purpose of the press conference was “to make the public aware of what we found and garner public support for more research.” He and colleagues stress the importance of the spearhead, the first example of Clovis culture found this far west, hence the site being named Farpoint. The significance of the discovery is reiterated in numerous communications from arch*ae*ol*ogists and anthropologists at universities and museums.

The point itself has been auth*enticated by Dr. Dennis Stanford, the director of the Paleo*in*dian/ Paleoecology Program at the Smithsonian Institution, who writes that he examined the point and “there is no question that the artifact was made using Clovis tech*nology and thereby indicates that the site was occupied by Clovis people over 11,000 years ago.”

Stanford adds, “The discovery of a Clovis age occupation at the site is extremely important not only for the local archaeological record, but for understanding the earliest pre-history of the Americas. Hence the site is of national significance and requires an interdisciplinary research program and protection.”

The point and other site data are now housed at the Santa Barbara Museum of Natural History.

Stickel says the residence on the property has been completed, stressing he “never tried to stop it,” but he is now concerned that trenches dug for sprinkler systems have impacted the grounds.

The archaeologist says, “There are eight No Trespassing signs” on the two-plus-acre property, “some probably there for my benefit.” Still, he said he is pleased that the property has ex*tensive surveillance equipment, because otherwise “crazies might come out and try to vandalize the site.”

Interestingly, some descendants of the post-Clovis Chumash, traditionally considered Malibu’s earl*iest residents, are wary of Clov*is findings. Their oral histories may vary but, in some form, they subscribe to the prevailing coastal migration route theory that the first “Americans” were Asians who crossed the Bering Strait from Siberia.

Dennis Stanford, however, has put forth the thesis, which Stickel thinks the Clovis finds support, that the earliest mi*grants came across the Atlantic from southwestern Eur*ope on ice packs that bound all of the land masses closer together some 21,000 to 16,000 years ago.

This is not just ivory tower quibbling, but highly-charged debate that is closely interwoven with ethnic politics and beliefs. The Clovis point is not some esoteric curio, but a potential confirmation of who initially populated North America after the Ice Age.
The question of who got here first not only has tremendous im*plications for history, but also for the professional careers of individuals who ally themselves with one theory or another. That is assuming one is willing to discount any possibility that both migratory patterns could have taken place si*mul*taneously.

Stickel stresses that the “Farpoint Site may well yield more data critically important to our understanding of how the New World was first inhabited by the earliest people. Any portion of the site may contain a Clovis human tooth, and DNA analysis of it would help scientists to identify the human genetic origins of the New World.

“There’s a fantastic panorama of human occupation here and we need to understand it.”
He contends that “cultural resources should be treated like some mineral rights and granted special status. We need to find ways to facilitate obtaining this material so it is available for the common good.”

Stickel says that because of his em*phasis on the importance of accumulating this data, he has clashed with City of Malibu personnel who he says are more concerned with expediting Malibu private property development than adding to the knowledge of who were the community’s earliest residents.

Last November, one of the many scholars interested in the Farpoint Site sent a letter to then Mayor Ken Kearsley, in which he urged the city to “allow Stickel and his associates to put in a minimally intrusive, time-limited, final observation pit close to the house for the purposes of completing their mitigation work.

“I predict that the owner and other responsible citizens of Malibu will look back and be very proud to have done so.”


CAPTION 1

PRESS CONFERENCE—Archaeologist Gary Stickel points out excavated areas on the Point Dume property where the Clovis projectile point, or spearhead, was found. The location has been formally designated by the State of California as the Farpoint Site. The second map marked with red lines represents what Dr. Stickel calls “destroyed site areas.” He is critical of the City of Malibu, asserting that planning personnel “are very negative” about archaeological research in the community and may “have tried to stifle the press conference” that he and colleagues held last week outside the Page Museum, home of the La Brea Tar Pits. MSN Photos/Frank Lamonea

CAPTION 2.
FIND—Edgar Perez, the Na*tive American monitor at the Point Dume residential construction site, retrieved the Clovis point from a backhoe bucket during excavation of a trench on Sept. 25, 2005. Everyone quickly gathered around him because there was a sense that the discovery was important, and this photograph was taken to commemorate the event. The site archaeologist asserts that the owner has tried to impede continued research at the location and has even ac*cused him of “seeding” or placing the point at the site.

CAPTION 3.
DIVERGENCE—Two competing theories of migration are at stake as more information is derived from artifacts such as the Clovis point. One theory is that the Clovis people immigrated from Asia over the Bering Strait; the other is they were people from southwestern Europe who crossed a differently configured Atlantic Ocean 16,000 years ago or more.

CAPTION 4.
SCALE—Ray Corbett, the Anth*ropology Collection Manager at the Santa Barbara Museum of Natural History, holds the actual Clovis point, which is also shown on this week’s cover. Replicas have been made for research and educational use.

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Old March 26th, 2008 #19
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Here is Dr. Stickel's blog on Farpoint. You might want to leave him an encouraging comment, ask a question or two.

http://sundagger-egs.blogspot.com/20...ating-and.html
 
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