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Old October 8th, 2004 #1
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Default "WHAT GOOD CAN A HANDGUN DO AGAINST AN ARMY.....?"

You've all heard the anti-gun nuts ask this one haven't you?
"WHAT GOOD CAN A HANDGUN DO AGAINST AN ARMY.....?"
Well, here's a good answer.
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/7...inst-army.html
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I really liked the article it is one of the few I actually read every single word. I loved the part about the liberator.

(see the simple design almost anyone could make one of those)



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Cheap guns like those and zip guns are for the purpose of getting better guns, no one outfits an army with zip guns.

Even in total gun confiscation the military force has to have weapons.

Have you ever read the works of Kurt Saxon? His theory is that if guns were taken away people would be more dangerous because they would resort to improvised weapons.

Kurt Saxon
ďA man with a gun is just a man with a gun, but a man with my knowledge is an armyĒ.

Anyone who has studied the history of Martial arts will know that a great many of Martial Arts weapons are versions of field tools such as flails and machetes. Katas were fighting forms turned into dances to conceal their true meaning.

You can never disarm a people because if you take one weapon they will simply invent another and use it to take your weapons.
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I found Kurt Saxon on the web years ago. Love his survivalism ideas.
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the average White bozo aint gettin off the couch to do jack shit other than get another beer while the football game is on. the average chickenshit lacks the initiative to do the most mundane actions of rebellion so why would he risk his ass for anything?

leave all that NRA horseshit behind, its a waste of breath. guns are great, but whats a thousand, a THOUSAND times more important, are BRAINS AND WILL.

Jews never fired a shot to take over the US. Think about that for a minute. For a day or two, actually. Save your $35 bucks, send it to Linder. NRA is for doofuses. Let the other million doofuses niggle over bayo lugs. We want men with brains and balls, not just bellies.
 
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leave all that NRA horseshit behind, its a waste of breath. guns are great, but whats a thousand, a THOUSAND times more important, are BRAINS AND WILL.
What is this? AE busting up a perfectly good thread? What is next AE88? Then he will have to ban himself. I am getting concerned.


Wait a sec I forgot AE gets wild on gun threads.

Carry on Sir.
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a gun in the hands of a person unwilling to drop the hammer is no better than a paperweight. a paperweight in the hands of a person determined to kill their enemy is far more effective than a gun in the hands of a person who is afraid to spill blood.

it will never happen like the TD. it will be the death by a thousand cuts, while we are anesthatized by televitz and porn and junk food and the rhtyms of life on the treadmill at work off on a long commute to a sterile judeordained televtiz life at home.

I;m not against the NRA, Im against White men thinking that having guns is enough. Having them is like having a dick. Everybody's got one. But do you know how to fuck, and are you ever going to get laid or just play with it?

LOL I have to turn in, lack of sleep is addling my short supply of wits!
 
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I may be wrong AE but it appears you didnít read the article. The article does point out that there has to be ďa will to use itĒ. The page answers the following question from a friend of his.



"If/when our Federal Government comes to pilfer, pillage, plunder our property and destroyour lives, what good can a handgun do against an army with advanced weaponry, tanks, missiles, planes, or whatever else they might have at their disposal to achieve their nefarious goals? (I'm not being facetious: I accept the possibility that what happened in Germany, or similar, could happen here; I'm just not sure that the potential good from an armed citizenry in such a situation outweighs the day-to-day problems caused by masses of idiots who own guns.)"

The article makes an analogy of our present situation as he sees it.

Now it is true that our present wolf-like, would-be rulers do not as yet seek to eat that sheep and its peaceable wooly cousins (We, the people). They are, however, most desirous that the sheep be shorn of taxes, and if possible and when necessary, be reminded of their rightful place in society as "good citizen sheep" whose safety from the big bad wolves outside their barn doors is only guaranteed by the omni-presence in the barn of the "good wolves" of the government. Indeed, they do not present themselves as wolves at all, but rather these lupines parade around in sheep's clothing, bleating insistently in falsetto about the welfare of the flock and the necessity to surrender liberty and property "for the children", er, ah, I mean "the lambs." In order to ensure future generations of compliant sheep, they are careful to educate the lambs in the way of "political correctness," tutoring them in the totalitarian faiths that "it takes a barnyard to raise a lamb" and "all animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others."

Every now and then, some tough old independent-minded ram refuses to be shorn and tries to remind the flock that they once decided affairs themselves according to the rule of law of their ancestors, and without the help of their "betters." When that happens, the fangs become apparent and the conspicuously unwilling are shunned, cowed, driven off or (occasionally) killed. But flashing teeth or not, the majority of the flock has learned over time not to resist the Lupine-Mandarin class which herds it. Their Founders, who were fiercely independent rams, would have long ago chased off such usurpers. Any present members of the flock who think like that are denounced as antediluvian or mentally deranged.

There are some of these dissidents the lupines would like to punish, but they dare not-- for their teeth are every bit as long as their "betters." Indeed, this is the reason the wolves haven't eaten any sheep in generations. To the wolves chagrin, this portion of the flock is armed and they outnumber the wolves by a considerable margin. For now the wolves are content to watch the numbers of these "armed sheep" diminish, as long teeth are no longer fashionable in polite society. (Indeed, they are considered by the literati to be an anachronism best forgotten and such sheep are dismissed by the Mandarins as "Tooth Nuts" or "Right Leg Fanatics".) When the numbers of armed sheep fall below a level that wolves can feel safe to do so, the eating will begin. The wolves are patient, and proceed by infinitesimal degrees like the slowly-boiling frog. It took them generations to lull the sheep into accepting them as rulers instead of elected representatives. If it takes another generation or two of sheep to complete the process, the wolves can wait. This is our "Animal Farm," without apology to George Orwell.





I take this quote somewhat out of context but I like this part.ďÖif we refuse to be divided from what truly unites us as a people, we cannot be defeatedÖ ď
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Thanks for the revealing insight into one reason why you are such a dolt.

[QUOTE=sean(doc)martin]I really liked the article it is one of the few I actually read every single word. QUOTE]
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Youre right cracker I just read the first quarter or so. Sometimes I like to shoot my mouth off too eh? I love to poke fun at NRA because I was in it for a long time and my progun activism was in a way, something more socially acceptable than just being flat out proWhite as I am now. So in a way when I make fun of overweight, chickenshit, NRA types, I am the pot calling the kettle black.

But, no longer do I let 2d amendment bullshit serve as a proxy for being ProWhite. And I have been exercising regularly and will soon be up to fighting trim as well. LOL
 
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(Doc) Anyone who has studied the history of Martial arts will know that a great many of Martial Arts weapons are versions of field tools such as flails and machetes. Katas were fighting forms turned into dances to conceal their true meaning. (Doc)
Very true, at one time in both Europe and Okinawa, the common boat oar was an exceptional, deadly weapon wielded by not so passive peasant fishermen. Those things weighed 8-14 pounds then. Ouch.

Ever heard of American Kenpo? The late Master Ed. Parker devolved the initial Katas in the 1950ís and it has evolved radically ever since. Unlike (much) older Asian forms that do not reflect actual street combat for the most part, Master Parker created a new system based on basic human body mechanics and reactions. I currently hold a blue belt and have the scars to prove it lol.

Anyway, just something to look into if you are "in the market" for a new challenge
 
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Hey! thanks for taking me off moderation.
 
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It all depends on what kind of handgun you have.
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Ever heard of American Kenpo? The late Master Ed. Parker devolved the initial Katas in the 1950ís and it has evolved radically ever since. Unlike (much) older Asian forms that do not reflect actual street combat for the most part, Master Parker created a new system based on basic human body mechanics and reactions. I currently hold a blue belt and have the scars to prove it lol.
That is what I trained in, and got my first degree black belt and got all the material for my second degree but never did test for it.

My teachers trained in several different arts and added a lot of things to it, and changed the name for financial reasons.
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That is what I trained in, and got my first degree black belt and got all the material for my second degree but never did test for it.

My teachers trained in several different arts and added a lot of things to it, and changed the name for financial reasons.
Interesting, my Sensei incorporated two other forms as well, namely Tang Soo Do and IFC style ground fighting. Where did you train if you don't mind me asking?
 
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That is what I trained in, and got my first degree black belt and got all the material for my second degree but never did test for it.

My teachers trained in several different arts and added a lot of things to it, and changed the name for financial reasons.
Fag Martin's latest wild eyed fish story, now he is a "Karate Man". Hey Fag have you ever noticed no matter how much you brag or embellish everyone still thinks you are full of shit. No you would never notice that no one believes your ludicrous lies. You are just too fucking stupid. Fag hillbilly Martin - an obvious case of alcohol fetal syndrome. That means your moma was boozing it up while you were gestating or should I say incubating. Hey Fag Martin I bet you were circumcised accidentally when your father kicked your sister in the mouth in a jealous rage. Keep up the good work and lay off the pigs and sheep, after all they're God's creatures too and deserve at least not to be molested by you and the rest of your family.

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Fag Martin's latest wild eyed fish story, now he is a "Karate Man". Hey Fag have you ever noticed no matter how much you brag or embellish everyone still thinks you are full of shit. No you would never notice that no one believes your ludicrous lies. You are just too fucking stupid. Fag hillbilly Martin - an obvious case of alcohol fetal syndrome. That means your moma was boozing it up while you were gestating or should I say incubating. Hey Fag Martin I bet you were circumcised accidentally when your father kicked your sister in the mouth in a jealous rage. Keep up the good work and lay off the pigs and sheep, after all they're God's creatures too and deserve at least not to be molested by you and the rest of your family.
Heh, is there anything the ole docster can't do? I'm waiting for the next thread on space flight were doc chimes in that he and Neil Armstrong walked hand in hand on the fricken moon!!!!
 
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Interesting, my Sensei incorporated two other forms as well, namely Tang Soo Do and IFC style ground fighting. Where did you train if you don't mind me asking?
I trained in Kentucky, my teacher was a huge IFC fanatic. He also trained in Judo and Ju-Jitsu. He loved grappling, and that is what he mostly focused on. He was excellent at jump spinning kicks and such, but his theory was it wouldnít work in the street so he only taught that type of stuff after class.

He has a brown belt in Ta-Quan Do and a second-degree black belt in Shaolin, (I know my spelling is bad but it has been a while). Then he trained under a guy Ed Parker trained and got his fourth degree black belt in Dragon Kenpo (again name change for financial reasons). I saw him a couple weeks ago and he is now going back to the forms. I think he is starting to mellow out a bit. Actually he got a lot of publicity for community work training the youth and keeping the kids off their skateboards and out of the park, so he couldnít train them like he did us.

I quit training after I went to college and now I canít find the time (I know four hours a week isnít much).
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Heh, is there anything the ole docster can't do? I'm waiting for the next thread on space flight were doc chimes in that he and Neil Armstrong walked hand in hand on the moon!!!!
This is old news something I posted quite a while back. I know you may have been in a drunken stupor or still to hung over to read but it is old news. Go back to the defense section on VNNF and you will see where I made reference to my martial arts background.

Really Steve you should put the beer down and try it sometime.

Sutter I know you read this a while back, I thought that was why you are so terrified of me. Donít worry though I donít really care enough about you to quote your posts anymore so I wonít harm you. You can rest easy now.
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ta quan do, is that like tae kwon do or did they change the name for financial reasons?

ed parker used to do plenty of travelling seminars so there are tons of people who "trained" with him just like I "trained" with Wally Jay for a day doing small circle jiu jitsu.

say this reminds me of frank dux. anybody heard of this jewish blowhard loser? let's pick on him now.
 
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Sutter I know you read this a while back, I thought that was why you are so terrified of me. Donít worry though I donít really care enough about you to quote your posts anymore so I wonít harm you. You can rest easy now.
You really are a fag aren't you Martin. You don't care about me anymore! I'm crushed. Then why did you bother to respond this time. You love to make an ass of yourself. Anytime you want to prove your such a badass just pm me.

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