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Old August 19th, 2005 #1
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Why does everyone assume that East Asians all know how to fight? Why are so many people convinced that their martial arts are so powerful? I've seen so many White guys back down from gooks because of this bullshit. Niggers, especially, think anyone with slanty eyes knows "Kung-Fu". As in "fuck dat, nigga! Dees Chinese boys be doin' some Kung-Fu shit, dog."

Anyone else notice the shortage of nips in professional MA? Hell, K-1 and Pride were both created in Japan, and the only jap I can even think of is Sakuraba. What the fuck is so great about Japanese arts? People seem to forget that, as several islands with no outside contact, the japs trained only to fight other japs. A European swordsman during the renasissance would have faced numerous different weapons and styles, from warriors across several continents.

Look, I've gained some things from Eastern MA, but most of my skill comes from good genetics and LOTS of practice. The toughest guy I know never had any real training other than highschool wrestling, but he still wins 9 out of 10 grappling contests between us. All the jap crap just isn't enough to overcome the size and strength difference. I guess what I'm trying to say is that fish and rice can't beat meat and potatoes.
 
Old August 19th, 2005 #2
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Based on my own observations and experience, I would venture to say this: For an individual to prevail in a real-life "streetfight" scenario ( physical size being the same ), is about 80% conditioning, and 20% knowledge/implementation of MA technique. I know that this is a generalization, and a very broad one, but I stand by it.
 
Old August 20th, 2005 #3
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Why does everyone assume that East Asians all know how to fight? Why are so many people convinced that their martial arts are so powerful? I've seen so many White guys back down from gooks because of this bullshit. Niggers, especially, think anyone with slanty eyes knows "Kung-Fu". As in "fuck dat, nigga! Dees Chinese boys be doin' some Kung-Fu shit, dog."
You've noticed one of the many ways by which Jews cultivated fear by suggestion among Whites with though the use of media applied psychology. Beginning around 1970, they started making the great Asian Kung-Fu myth with TV shows having Asian stars or guest-stars who were so accomplished in martial arts that White guys "just didn't have a chance." It was all script and choreography, of course, but when you watch TV your critical faculty melts away, and if it looks convincing your mind often accepts that it is real.

Years of that kind of conditioning bred timidity in Whites. Once a whole generation grows up with no real-world reference to something which is constantly treated on TV (i.e., with no reality checks to fantasy), the first assumption, the working approximation, made by its members is that what they saw on TV must be at least roughly correct. When it isn't, they might have a hard time accepting the shift in their picture of the world.

You've seen this kind of thing before. You see it every time you observe a liberal holding forth on racial equality, despite the years of scientific and law-enforcement data that proves that the races are not equals. The media instilled those liberals with the fiction of racial equality, and the fiction was varnished with a quasi-religious authority that makes it seem immoral to doubt the fiction.

After the Jews got the psychological ball rolling on the idea of the Mighty Kung-Fu Asian, they spun off a feminist variation. Think back to the 1970s era TV sitcoms, TV adventure series, and TV cop shows. Do you remember the many, many times small women gave large men the judo-flip and then kicked them into submission? Once again, the Jews targeted White men for a poison dose of induced timidity, and to a certain extent it worked. When a woman turns on you fiercely, you back off do you not?

And the conditioned habit of backing off has led to feminist gains in legal areas. Once the male habit of standing his ground and using his power to assert himself would have landed so many White men in prison that it simply wasn't feasible to have laws that (just to use the example) deprive fathers of child custody almost automatically. Too many men would be in prison to keep them all within walls, there'd have been too rapid a depletion in the labor force, there'd have been a noticeable reduction in tax revenue, etc. But once the TV-induced timidity had been established, it was feasible for feminist Jews to make real-world encroachments on the rights of White men.

Most of having rights is a matter of common assumptions (tradition). You do it. If you can get away with it, you have the right. If so many people are doing it, whatever it is, that they can't all be locked up, then the right is pretty much an established fact. The Jews use TV fantasies to interfere with those traditions, always painting the "new way" as a better way, leading to a brighter world. It's a trick, of course. The purpose of Jewish TV fantasy is to destroy those common assumptions that make rights for Whites possible.

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Old August 20th, 2005 #4
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Anyone else notice the shortage of nips in professional MA? Hell, K-1 and Pride were both created in Japan, and the only jap I can even think of is Sakuraba. What the fuck is so great about Japanese arts? People seem to forget that, as several islands with no outside contact, the japs trained only to fight other japs. A European swordsman during the renasissance would have faced numerous different weapons and styles, from warriors across several continents.

Ever hear of Judo? Mitsuyo Maeda? Yukio Tani? Pride FC is FULL of Japanese fighters besides Sakuraba. And what about all those Thai boxers?

I am getting sick of this "which race is the best at MMA" crap. It is not a racial issue. The fact is that some races/ethnicities don't have much enthusiasm for that particular sport. I don't see a lot of Greeks in Pride FC, I guess that means Greeks can't fight now?!
 
Old August 22nd, 2005 #5
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Ever hear of Judo? Mitsuyo Maeda? Yukio Tani? Pride FC is FULL of Japanese fighters besides Sakuraba. And what about all those Thai boxers? I am getting sick of this "which race is the best at MMA" crap. It is not a racial issue. The fact is that some races/ethnicities don't have much enthusiasm for that particular sport. I don't see a lot of Greeks in Pride FC, I guess that means Greeks can't fight now?!
To suggest that one race or another may have advantages is not illegitimate. Maybe it is true or not, given the hypothesis, but you seem very convinced. I'm not. Sure every race can produce decent fighters. I have studied Aikido with Japanese and Judo with negroes and karate/tkd with Whites. In general, martial arts practice is pretty "universal." That doesnt mean that at a high level of competition, one race may not stand out.

Japs, and plenty of them, have a very high rate of exposure to martial arts, but they dont produce large numbers of mixed martial art champions. From a cursory glance the proposition that you ridicule looks as provable to me as the theory that niggers produce the best boxers. Now I know that will piss some people off, but I think the nigger skull is so thick that under boxing rules, person for person and pound for pound, niggers will tend to produce the best boxers because they can take headshots no White man can stand.

Or maybe in the bigger weight classes. Maybe in the lighter weight classes Indian mestizoids have an advantage.

But in mixed martial arts, the thick skull advantage is lessened. The ideal of the human form on an individual basis is the Aryan ideal, and pankration the ancient form of practice unarmed combat in the west.

The fact that you have provided the names of a few decent MMA Japs does not prove much. If I am wrong about this trend, let me know by some provable statistics, because over large numbers that is the trend that I see.

I'm not emotionally attatched to this result JP. Show me the numbers that prove Whites are not best at MMA. Names of five good Japs does not convince me.
 
Old August 22nd, 2005 #6
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I once ran a guy down on my motorcycle up at Hampton Beach,N.H.
He was trying to attack me with some kung fu shit,the guy was apparantly trying to show off for his friends.Does this make me a better fighter than the guy with the handlebar marks on his chest?
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Old August 23rd, 2005 #7
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If you want to know who are the best warriors, look to the gladiator colosseums of the day, America's prisons. This is where there are really, NO RULES.
 
Old August 23rd, 2005 #8
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My aunt adopted a Korean kid. My white cousin would beat the crap out of him. I never had that illusion of the oriental being a gifted martial artist heheh they whine when you hit them. He was a good kid but he developed marfan syndrome. My cousin still has this big guilt complex now because he died. Wierd disease- the body can't absorb any fat.
 
Old August 23rd, 2005 #9
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The Mestizo boxers fare well because they have thicker skulls, too. The occipital bone is much thicker than a White man's, and this really helps to stabilize the neck, which facilitates weaving and absorbs impact.
Most races can claim some sort of biological advantage, but the White man has his intellect.
 
Old August 24th, 2005 #10
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Gee could it be that Mestizos seem to be good in boxing because- Mestizos have a lot of enthusiasm for boxing? Would you believe that white excel in ice hockey because of super advanced balancing skills and strong ankles?
 
Old August 24th, 2005 #11
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If you want to know who are the best warriors, look to the gladiator colosseums of the day, America's prisons. This is where there are really, NO RULES.
prisons show that in physical confrontations, groups nearly always beat individuals, that the best knife technique is the straight thrust, that weapons are key in self defense, and that social cooperation, surprise, deception, and stealth are not advanced concepts but "fundamentals."
 
Old August 24th, 2005 #12
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I would like to see any gook alive try to beat 40 years old Ken Shamrock. They would not find it easy, this guy is in fine shape for his age and is a real tough guy.
 
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prisons show that in physical confrontations, groups nearly always beat individuals, that the best knife technique is the straight thrust, that weapons are key in self defense, and that social cooperation, surprise, deception, and stealth are not advanced concepts but "fundamentals."
Nothing but common sense there, but people watch movies and forget it.

The thing that bugs me most is this: "the best knife technique is the straight thrust". That's so obvious. You're always going to do more damage with a stab than with a slash. I don't understand these knife and sword nuts who are in love with middle-east and far-east curved-blade designs. European swords were always best. Hell, you can still slash and cut with a straight blade if that's what you're into. Still, the POKE is what won the battles

That's not going to change.

A saxon-type sword


"Five Centuries of sword development - from the medieval to the American Revolution" Designed for thrusting.

The japs *almost* figured it out


Chinks and Arabs never did.
 
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lol the poor niggers were even farther behind. This is what happens when a diverted and perverted monkey-brain tries to design a killing blade.


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This sword is common between the Ngombe people of central Zaire. There are many legends concerning this type of sword, the most known is its use for execution. Either it is right or wrong, it is definitely a very impressive sword and always was regarded as a symbol of status.
They love the head-chopping so much that they just ended up with a big edged hook.

See the irony? The straight piece of steel is the EASIEST to think of, design, and create. Non-whites aren't just stupid, they're kinky. They're deviant.

Look at that point that sticks out into the half-circle. WTF is that? lol makes it like a giant fish-hook. I guess you swing this down on the prisoner's neck, but then what? You can't withdraw it to hack again and finish the job in a relatively timely and humane manner. I guess you have to stand there and shake it to finish the cutting. Or you stand there laughing at the blood-spurting and screaming. From what I've seen of negroids, I'll bet this was a tool to mortally wound someone and then lead them around by the neck while they're dying. LMAO at niggers. Glad I never got captured by an african tribe. Cruelty and inefficiency rules.
 
Old August 24th, 2005 #15
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Actually slashing is a lot easier. Why do you think Europeans eventually phased out their double-edged swords for sabres? The Russians learned early on from the Mongols that the curved blade was better, especially for cavalry. That is where the famous Cossack shashka most likely got its origin. Arabs copied what could be called an Aryan design; the scimitar comes from the Iranian shamsheer.

It took many centuries for all of Europe to realize that lighter, slashing swords worked better. Nations that fought with Turks frequently(Poland, Russia) were way ahead of some of the Western European nations.

The Japanese sword is a different type altogether, designed for "cutting".
 
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straight thrust is best on foot.

slashing is best from horseback. straight thrust on horseback is more trouble than it's worth. slashing from horseback uses the energy of the horse to add to the destructive force of the blow, and avoids the possible tangling up and loss of the weapon entailed in a piercing thrust.

but, again, on foot the history of sword development and fencing shows the vast superiority of thrusting.

Kenjutsu uses both slashing and thrusting. So that s not one or the other.
 
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slashing is best from horseback. straight thrust on horseback is more trouble than it's worth. slashing from horseback uses the energy of the horse to add to the destructive force of the blow, and avoids the possible tangling up and loss of the weapon entailed in a piercing thrust.

but, again, on foot the history of sword development and fencing shows the vast superiority of thrusting.
Beat me to it. Yeah the slash might be better if you're up high and moving fast.

Or is it? What was a lance for, Slovjanski? You could try and call it a "spear", but they weren't throwing them.

Straight weapons rule. Always did.

Curved blades have their uses. Agriculture.
 
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prisons show that in physical confrontations, groups nearly always beat individuals, that the best knife technique is the straight thrust, that weapons are key in self defense, and that social cooperation, surprise, deception, and stealth are not advanced concepts but "fundamentals."
That is a superb summary. Knowing the human anatomy also helps in directing the energy which is expended.

On the streets one learns quickly that all notions of fair play and gentlemanly behavior do not exist. What I was taught was "dirty fighting" is the only kind there is and what one encounters on the streets are merely intensified in the American gulags.

As you point out groups nearly always beat individuals and that fundamental understanding extends to all of our efforts in the fight for the survival of our race. Which is why I do not support all this talk of lone wolfism, we need organizations and we do need points of gathering, whether here in cyber world or in the physical realm.

As I have mentioned previously there was a fellow, a member of the American National Socialists, at San Quentin, the ANS was not a validated prison gang but a group of White inmates, and this one man was able to hold off 50 Black Muslims for a period of several minutes. Now they did kill him but when we see how many of our White males are intimidated by negroes and mestizos and Pacific Islanders and so on, like the males at the Wichita Massacre, that fallen NS comrade demonstrated that a White man who knows what he is about is more than able to stand up to untermenschen. Earlier this year there was a thread about a wigger kid , a skinny little guy, who fought off the KS college basketball team negroes.
 
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I would like to see any gook alive try to beat 40 years old Ken Shamrock. They would not find it easy, this guy is in fine shape for his age and is a real tough guy.
Ken is way past it. People age at different rates and KS missed the boat on good aging genetics. But you do make a good point. I have often seen VNN posters(mostly young ones) who make comments about "old men" and how they shouldn't be shooting off their mouths, etc. Because they would get there asses beat. I always point them out to Randy Couture, age 42. Up until a few months ago he was the lightheavyweight champ until 37 year old Chuck liddel beat him.

Couture's fight record reads like a whose who of UFC. Randy has beaten Vitor Belfort, Tito Ortiz, Chuck Liddell, Pedro Rizzo, Tsuyoshi Kohsaka, Kevin Randleman, Jeremy Horn and Ryushi Yanagisawa. Not bad for a 40 plus "old man".
 
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Beat me to it. Yeah the slash might be better if you're up high and moving fast.

Or is it? What was a lance for, Slovjanski? You could try and call it a "spear", but they weren't throwing them.

Straight weapons rule. Always did.

Curved blades have their uses. Agriculture.
What do you think is easier to dodge, a straight thrust or a slash? A lance was good for cavalry but it had limite uses. From the ground perspective lances were best used as a defense against enemy cavalry. The Celts were devasted several times due to their reliance of spears vs. the Roman short sword which was good at slashing.
 
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