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Old January 15th, 2006 #21
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God answers prayer and intercedes in your life. I don't think a scholorly explaination will ever convince you. It's kinda like those Magic Eye pictures. If you look for God, He will jump right out for you. It's hard to explain to someone how to look at those Magic Eye pics. Hard to explain this too. It involves a bended knee and a humbled heart.

A "bended knee and humbled heart"? What a very jewish notion that is.
The Aryan never bends his knee nor humbles his heart,neither for god nor man.
 
Old January 15th, 2006 #22
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Here ,chew this bone! lol :cheers:

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Now prove to me from your own jewish scriptures that xtianity is an Aryan creed and unwelcoming to non-Aryans!
IT's not an "Aryan" creed. Never was. It's a universal religion, as is Islam.
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Prove to me also that there is a seperate abode in the after life for your brethren who are not Aryans! So far neither you nor your xtian comrades have attempted to answer the question that this thread poses.
But then why should this surprise me?
Why are you worried about it? No one can prove anything about the afterlife. Why keep asking?

There's plenty to worry about down here.
 
Old January 15th, 2006 #24
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My brothers live here in my town,I do not know you,nor have I met anyone from this forum.For all I know you may be a bunch of gov't agents lookin for a lone wolf to bust.
Yes I am a realist,the Romans were looking for a way to unite their lands against invasion.Thats why people use christmas trees when the bible clearly says not too,etc.That does not mean the core messages are not true,only that they have been misconstrued,much as you are seeking to do.I am sure that you,having studied it so extensively know that the christ openly said"The Gentiles are a law unto themselves".That which is needed for us to know God is already within us,I do not need this book or that book,only serious introspection and a willingness to accept the "Holy Spirit's" plan for me.
As I have posted before,and again,I will say,I do not care if you take my "religion"(thats another debate there,as that is why we are in this mess anyway) seriously.It does not matter to me,I prefer that you do not,as I do not take yours seriously.Also,I I am a Southron so if I spell it goddam,or say aint,or yall,do not let it worry yall cos I aint gonna give a good goddam anyway.
I would agree mankind consists of chinks,slopes,kikes,niggers,apes,chimps,etc. But Mankind conists of a very few who were commanded to subdue the world.
As in all other points of civilization the lesser races imitate us,so it does not suprise me that they also try to imitate us in worship,more often than not though they try to infuse it with their own tribes traditions,or someone else will, for a matter to control them.Basically I believe that if you cant understand the message truly,and are not able to see the bigger picture,you are not supposed to.I do not try to convert people,as I have already stated.Why should I?Many will be called,few chosen.There is a church on every street corner,they have heard it.If they cannot see the bigger picture,It is no concern to me.Does not Revelations say only 144,000 are going to heaven anyway?
How has it worked for me?Well,that is personal,and I doubt the sincerity in your interest.If it were meant for me to share that with you,in my belief,I would have met you.I am not willing to throw my innermost treasures out to someone who for all I know,is a kike,as it will only be used to try to pain me at a later date.
I agree with the higher states of conciousness,I have found many "gates" in my life to obtain them.If it does not matter to you how you obtain it,it does not matter to me.


Is this the "144,000" that you refer to?

3 And they sung as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and no man could learn that song but the hundred and forty and four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth.

4 These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb.
[Revelation 14:3-4]


Are you one of the "144,000" Pale Horse?

Revelation 7:4 makes it clear that they are of the 12 "tribes of ISRAEL".

4 And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel.

So is that your answer then that only the JEWS will inherit the Kingdom of Heaven?
So I was wrong:it isn`t multiculti after all! Heaven is JEWISH!

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Old January 15th, 2006 #25
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I would guess that depends on who is Israel?Know the Tribes?Know that Judah is the Tribe where jews come from?Know that at one time Israel battled Judah?You know all that right?
Nope,I'm not one of the 144,00,I've two awesome sons,are you diassapointed?
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Old January 15th, 2006 #26
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IT's not an "Aryan" creed. Never was. It's a universal religion, as is Islam.

Why are you worried about it? No one can prove anything about the afterlife. Why keep asking?

There's plenty to worry about down here.

I am not "worried about it". I am pointing out that not only is xtianity not a "white nationalist" dogma as "sean doc martin" continually claims but its ideology is diametrically opposed to any Aryan racialist creed.
It along with other jewish creeds such as liberalism,socialism and democracy have been effectively used for 2,000 years to emasculate and enslave Aryan man. I oppose xtianity as strongly as I oppose any other jewish manifestation.
I refer to the after life in this thread as the main topic because it is such a central theme in the xtian religion. A very multiculti or jewish after life however you may view it.
 
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I would guess that depends on who is Israel?Know the Tribes?Know that Judah is the Tribe where jews come from?Know that at one time Israel battled Judah?You know all that right?
Nope,I'm not one of the 144,00,I've two awesome sons,are you diassapointed?

If you are not one of the 144,000 then what is your stake in xtianity? Where do you see yourself after the dissolution of the physical body?
I am aware of the British Israelite/Christian Identity arguments which are thoroughly rejected by all reputable biblical scholars. The distinction that you make between the northern tribes of israel and the southern judah and benjamin is a fine one as they were all descendants of the patriarch jacob were they not?
So why do you claim that they have a seperate racial origin?
In fact Revelation 7 makes no distinction between any of the israelite tribes and judah as is evidenced in Revelation 7:5.

Of the tribe of Juda were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Reuben were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Gad were sealed twelve thousand.
 
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Because there is to be a new earth also.
Reputable bible scholars?Hehe,you are serious?Tell me Mr.Lord what is the best place to get a degree to study the life of a craftsman?Reputable to who?
In my area I am reputable,as here on VNN you are reputable.
As I already stated to you in different post numerous times,yes the bible is a conglomeration of many different religions,why are you trying to rile me into defending something that I do not use as my only source.I admitted already that the scope of my beliefs are drawn from other sources as well,did I not?
Do you not agree that all European languages once had a root tongue?What was the root for Odin?As stated in psalms 82 there were many gods,god is a noun not a name.
What about the link I posted?No comment?
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Old January 15th, 2006 #29
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Here ,chew this bone! lol :cheers:

http://www.jesusisbuddha.com/CLT.html

An interesting web page.
I recall hearing about this as a schoolboy in the early 70s and I myself used to draw on this numerical organisation of the New Testament as "evidence" for the "divine" authorship of the New Testament.
However I realise now that numbers and codes are easily manipulated and can be used to "prove" anything to the credible. I understand that Hitler`s name has even been linked to 666!
As an aside it is no secret of my associations with Wodens Folk. In a recent edition of one of our magazines it has been pointed out that 666 "was usurped by the forces of Darkness and Matter. It is not an "evil" number at all, but a Solar Number usurped by the "Beast" which is the Dark Power that rules over the Earth today." [Sword of Woden,Series 2, Number 4]
I would also point out that it is incorrect to regard Buddhism as a religion. It is a philosophy and an Aryan one at that.
 
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Because there is to be a new earth also.
Reputable bible scholars?Hehe,you are serious?Tell me Mr.Lord what is the best place to get a degree to study the life of a craftsman?Reputable to who?
In my area I am reputable,as here on VNN you are reputable.
As I already stated to you in different post numerous times,yes the bible is a conglomeration of many different religions,why are you trying to rile me into defending something that I do not use as my only source.I admitted already that the scope of my beliefs are drawn from other sources as well,did I not?
Do you not agree that all European languages once had a root tongue?What was the root for Odin?As stated in psalms 82 there were many gods,god is a noun not a name.
What about the link I posted?No comment?
What exactly is your purpose in comparing Proto Indo-European with the bible? You appear to be shifting the goal posts with every post that you make!
 
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A "bended knee and humbled heart"? What a very jewish notion that is.
The Aryan never bends his knee nor humbles his heart,neither for god nor man.
Dontcha thint there are things that are out of your control? Haven't you ever had the feeling that something was guiding your life other than your own hand? I certainly HAVE. My knee will bend today.
 
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Dontcha thint there are things that are out of your control? Haven't you ever had the feeling that something was guiding your life other than your own hand? I certainly HAVE. My knee will bend today.

Why do you have to equate that intutive feeling with obedience to a jewish desert tribal "god"?
 
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I am not "worried about it". I am pointing out that not only is xtianity not a "white nationalist" dogma as "sean doc martin" continually claims but its ideology is diametrically opposed to any Aryan racialist creed.
I agree that Chrisitianity would be the opposite of an Aryan racist creed, if such a thing existed; if you mean in the strict religious sense, that is.
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It along with other jewish creeds such as liberalism,socialism and democracy have been effectively used for 2,000 years to emasculate and enslave Aryan man....
That would be a surprise to western civ, which practically went hand in hand with the Church for many, many years. Went pretty well for a long time.
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I refer to the after life in this thread as the main topic because it is such a central theme in the xtian religion. A very multiculti or jewish after life however you may view it.
It's THE major theme in Chrisitianity, but I still can't see why that should concern you. The white folks who fought for western culture in past ages mostly let God sort out the afterlife and took care of business here on earth.

Besides, an afterlife would be an entirely different existence, most certainly not dependent on race or ethnicity...nor physical bodies for that matter.
 
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Just showing how you can glean the version ya want from where ya want.I could make a religion from Les Miserable if I wanted.Religions are a dime a dozen.The thing you keep failing to realize is God or whatever you choose to call him,is an actual living entity.
I have not changed anything,it is just your perception.You keep trying to put everything in a neat little box,and some things wont fit.You accuse christians of chanting "believe",but I have as of yet to see an eight legged horse.
As for your "reputable bible scholars" comment,need I remind you "reputable historians" sell the holohoax?
I shy away from experts such as that,and such as you.What have you to gain is what I ask myself.You want followers?Power?Cash?
Why are you worried about it so hard?Jews invented and control your money,but you are barely whimpering on that issue,rather worrying for your brothers soul.How noble.If you would put as much effort into overthrowing ZOG on a physical front as you do a spiritual, they would be gone.
I wonder at moments why this is such a big issue for you,I read that post of yours that time"We cannot do anything politically so lets work on religion".Lol.That is apathetic and diversionary.
I say that I am christian and I care not what you do or do not worship.Why does that bother you so badlly?Perhaps I need to start calling myself Gnostic
and quit answering your Christian taunts?lol
Your comments dont really anger me man,I went through that phase in my youth.IMO it is a normal thing you are supposed to question to learn.If you feel bad about dropping away thats ok too.Don't feel bad though,because that is the step between being called and being chosen,lol.
All is god.Does that sound Jewish or Bhuddist?The good,the evil,the high,the low,the saint,the sinner,the angel,the devil.All.
"That they may know from the rising of the sun, and from the west, that there is none beside Me, I am the LORD, and there is none else. I form the light, and create darkness; I make peace, AND CREATE EVIL: I the LORD do ALL THESE THINGS" (Isaiah 45:6-7).

"By HIS SPIRIT He hath garnished the heavens; his HAND has FORMED THE CROOKED SERPENT" (Job 26:13)

And the Lord said, Simon, Simon, behold, Satan hath desired to have you, that he may sift you as wheat: (KJV)
Behold, I have created the smith that bloweth the coals in the fire, and that bringeth forth an instrument for his work; and I have created the waster to destroy. (KJV)
"For he is NOT a Jew, which is one outwardly, neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh. But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God" (Rom. 2:28-29).

See that last one?Read it again.That is all I have been saying.Whatever you do,do mightily.There is a God,whatever you choose to call him.So do not try to make me stumble because you lack understanding.He is alive,he knows my heart,and whether or not you choose to admit it yours too.IMO it matters not what faith you choose it is your intentions of choosing that faith.Good,Evil,they are relative to me.In the end they serve their purpose,I am as my creator intended,I have been freed from sin(that self-condemnation).My will is my fathers,what I seek he put within me to seek.Why is this hard for you?Are you so ashamed of yourself you cannot admit you are a son of god?Holy, blameless,an all that jazz.Unless of course you are a kike,then I understand why you struggle so hard against Christian whites.
Answer me that one,what was the root word for Odin?
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"All is of God" (II Cor. 5:18).
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I wonder at moments why this is such a big issue for you,I read that post of yours that time"We cannot do anything politically so lets work on religion".Lol.That is apathetic and diversionary.
That is a very good and telling point.

Biting at the pantlegs of white folks' religion won't help matters, especially in the US. It's a dead end.
 
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QUOTE=Keystone]I agree that Chrisitianity would be the opposite of an Aryan racist creed, if such a thing existed; if you mean in the strict religious sense, that is.

The Aryan creed which I refer to is National Socialism which is far more than just a political ideology.It is a spiritual Weltanschauung.

That would be a surprise to western civ, which practically went hand in hand with the Church for many, many years. Went pretty well for a long time.

Really? I think of it as a slow eating cancer that has been attacking our race for thousands of years.A cancer that has emasculated and effeminised Aryan man to the point that he is too weak to physically resist the invader with the force of arms.A religion which Nietzsche referred to as a "slave morality".

It's THE major theme in Chrisitianity, but I still can't see why that should concern you. The white folks who fought for western culture in past ages mostly let God sort out the afterlife and took care of business here on earth.

It concerns me because xtianity,an invention of sick minded jews has the after life as a central tenet of its beliefs.The bible recognises only the supremacy of the jew,not of the Aryan and its whole ethos is multiracial.

Besides, an afterlife would be an entirely different existence, most certainly not dependent on race or ethnicity...nor physical bodies for that matter.[/QUOTE]

The Aryan Weltanschauung recognises that every race has its soul,its Volksgeist and every soul its race.The destiny of a creature that is half way between an ape and a human being is allotted the same destiny in your semitic xtian bible.Does that not strike you somehow as wrong and repulsive?
 
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The Aryan creed which I refer to is National Socialism which is far more than just a political ideology.It is a spiritual Weltanschauung.
Spiritual my butt. Give me some tangible proof of such. You are a good one for requiring proof...
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Really? I think of it as a slow eating cancer that has been attacking our race for thousands of years.A cancer that has emasculated and effeminised Aryan man to the point that he is too weak to physically resist the invader with the force of arms.A religion which Nietzsche referred to as a "slave morality".
Nietzche had the benefit of 1000 years of thought and technology, brought to him by Christendom. If it weren't for the Christian West, he would have still been living in a mud shanty and would have had no letters. Screw Nietzche.
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It concerns me because xtianity,an invention of sick minded jews has the after life as a central tenet of its beliefs.The bible recognises only the supremacy of the jew,not of the Aryan and its whole ethos is multiracial.
The NT does no such thing.
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The Aryan Weltanschauung recognises that every race has its soul,its Volksgeist and every soul its race.The destiny of a creature that is half way between an ape and a human being is allotted the same destiny in your semitic xtian bible.Does that not strike you somehow as wrong and repulsive?
The Aryan Weltanschauung? I have a white American worldview which is a completely different thing than NS Germany.

I didn't know that was a religious doctrine.
 
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QUOTE=Pale Horse]Just showing how you can glean the version ya want from where ya want.I could make a religion from Les Miserable if I wanted.Religions are a dime a dozen.The thing you keep failing to realize is God or whatever you choose to call him,is an actual living entity.

But as a xtian you choose to take your spirituality from the jews,what Nietzsche referred to as a "slave morality". I recognise no god but the god that dwells within my DNA.We Wotanists choose to call this deity "Wotan".I am in the process of becoming Wotan. Aryan spirituality is concerned with BECOMING,not BEING.

I have not changed anything,it is just your perception.You keep trying to put everything in a neat little box,and some things wont fit.You accuse christians of chanting "believe",but I have as of yet to see an eight legged horse.

I do not insist that people take the myth of Sleipnir literally.Literalism is the game of the protaganists of your religion,not mine.

As for your "reputable bible scholars" comment,need I remind you "reputable historians" sell the holohoax?

Maybe it is time that we took credit for the holohaux and celebrated it?
The elimination of lower life forms means nothing to me,especially if the result at the end of the day is the Superman prophecied by Nietzsche.


I shy away from experts such as that,and such as you.What have you to gain is what I ask myself.You want followers?Power?Cash?

Absolutely not. I see myself merely as a channel for the transmission of divine truth.

Why are you worried about it so hard?Jews invented and control your money,but you are barely whimpering on that issue,rather worrying for your brothers soul.How noble.

I care nought for riches and have indeed relinquished wealth.It was a very liberating experience.Wealth as with any possession ties a man down.It is the source of craving,lust and anxiety.Things or the lack of them cause lust and fear.Even the clinging on to physical life is a source of such mania.We must free ourselves from the dross to gain the real gold.We must in short become masters of our bodies,not mastered by them.

If you would put as much effort into overthrowing ZOG on a physical front as you do a spiritual, they would be gone.

You are not getting it are you? The fight with ZOG is or should be primarily spiritual and magical.The key battles of this struggle are being fought by people on the spiritual and magical fronts of this war.

I wonder at moments why this is such a big issue for you,I read that post of yours that time"We cannot do anything politically so lets work on religion".Lol.That is apathetic and diversionary.

I don`t recall those words.Could you cite which post or thread you are referring to please!

I say that I am christian and I care not what you do or do not worship.Why does that bother you so badlly?Perhaps I need to start calling myself Gnostic
and quit answering your Christian taunts?lol

As I have already explained,I will combat xtianity as much as I will combat capitalism,liberalism,democracy or bolshevism.They are all tools and weapons of the jew.

Your comments dont really anger me man,I went through that phase in my youth.IMO it is a normal thing you are supposed to question to learn.If you feel bad about dropping away thats ok too.Don't feel bad though,because that is the step between being called and being chosen,lol.
All is god.Does that sound Jewish or Bhuddist?The good,the evil,the high,the low,the saint,the sinner,the angel,the devil.All.

It sounds to me that you are stuck in a 1967 timewarp.Wake up,it is 2006!

"That they may know from the rising of the sun, and from the west, that there is none beside Me, I am the LORD, and there is none else. I form the light, and create darkness; I make peace, AND CREATE EVIL: I the LORD do ALL THESE THINGS" (Isaiah 45:6-7).

Quoting from the JEWISH prophet isaiah? I do not have to rely upon the jews for my spirituality. Your LORD means nothing to me.

"By HIS SPIRIT He hath garnished the heavens; his HAND has FORMED THE CROOKED SERPENT" (Job 26:13)

And the Lord said, Simon, Simon, behold, Satan hath desired to have you, that he may sift you as wheat: (KJV)
Behold, I have created the smith that bloweth the coals in the fire, and that bringeth forth an instrument for his work; and I have created the waster to destroy. (KJV)
"For he is NOT a Jew, which is one outwardly, neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh. But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God" (Rom. 2:28-29).

See that last one?Read it again.That is all I have been saying.Whatever you do,do mightily.There is a God,whatever you choose to call him.So do not try to make me stumble because you lack understanding.He is alive,he knows my heart,and whether or not you choose to admit it yours too.

I am more than familiar with the scriptures. So according to the jew saul/paul even though you are a gentile you would regard yourself as a spiritual jew?? Why do you seek to demean yourself in this way?

IMO it matters not what faith you choose it is your intentions of choosing that faith.Good,Evil,they are relative to me.In the end they serve their purpose,I am as my creator intended,I have been freed from sin(that self-condemnation)

I do not recognise "sin" and so have no need to be freed from it. The moment you believe in the possibility of sin you believe in guilt and then you place yourself in the hazardous position of needing a "saviour".

.My will is my fathers,what I seek he put within me to seek.Why is this hard for you?Are you so ashamed of yourself you cannot admit you are a son of god?Holy, blameless,an all that jazz.

As an Aryan I believe myself to be a son of the sun. I do not need a jew to be my father!

Unless of course you are a kike,then I understand why you struggle so hard against Christian whites.
Answer me that one,what was the root word for Odin?[/QUOTE]

You are the one who seeks a JEWISH HEAVENLY FATHER,not I!According to Rudolf Simek`s "Dictionary of Northern Mthology" Odin is derived from the Norse "Odr" and the German "Wut" which means "fury".
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Why do you have to equate that intutive feeling with obedience to a jewish desert tribal "god"?
I'm interested in seeing this one answered.

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That would be a surprise to western civ, which practically went hand in hand with the Church for many, many years. Went pretty well for a long time.
Did the church not also quell scientific discovery and silence speech with charges of heresy for many, many years?
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