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Old January 15th, 2006 #41
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QUOTE=Keystone]Spiritual my butt. Give me some tangible proof of such. You are a good one for requiring proof...

Sorry,I took it for granted that you were well-read.Clearly I was wrong.I refer you to the words of Adolf Hitler,
"Do you understand now the profound significance of our National Socialist movement?Whoever sees in National Socialism nothing but a political movement does not know much about it...it is even higher than a religion: it is the will to create mankind anew."


Nietzche had the benefit of 1000 years of thought and technology, brought to him by Christendom. If it weren't for the Christian West, he would have still been living in a mud shanty and would have had no letters. Screw Nietzche.

On the contrary Nietzsche was guided if anything by ancient Aryan thought from the worlds of ancient Greece,Rome,Persia and India.He saw clearly the decadence that xtianity was responsible for in the "west".
Ancient Rome,Greece,Persia and India got on pretty well without the "benefits" of xtianity,a slave religion that promoted the ignoble above the noble.


The NT does no such thing.

I am afraid that it does.I refer you to Romans chapter11

17 And if some of the branches be broken off, and thou, being a wild olive tree, wert graffed in among them, and with them partakest of the root and fatness of the olive tree;

18 Boast not against the branches. But if thou boast, thou bearest not the root, but the root thee.



The Aryan Weltanschauung? I have a white American worldview which is a completely different thing than NS Germany.

Yes you have a "white American worldview" and I am afraid that it shows. National Socialism is not concerned with national boundaries and narrow nationalistic politics.It is a world view for all Aryan peoples no matter where they may reside in the world.

I didn't know that was a religious doctrine.[/QUOTE]

I am unsure as to what you are referring to here.
 
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Horus was jewish?
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Old January 16th, 2006 #43
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Horus was jewish?
??? What are you talking about?
 
Old January 17th, 2006 #44
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Only that you keep saying that christianity hijacked much paganism,I keep agreeing and saying that the whole story was hijacked,and you keep telling me about "my jewish god".The whole story of Jesus is a rewrite of the story of Horus,an Egyptian god,from the white race,while they were in a very advanced state of civilization.Just because the story has been hijacked does not change the fact the veracity of the core of the story.The story has been tainted so you seek to do away with it entirely.That would be fine but the only problem that I have with it is that god still exists.Comparitive religous studies would be beneficial.There is no doubt to me that Quetzacoatl is Thoth,Marduk is Amun/Ra,etc. These gods were not the fanciful writings of a man,but actual entities that demanded loyalty and respect.
You say we need no messiah,as our race is bred out,our enviroment is betraying us,and we are taxed on every move twice.I don't know about you,but I thank him for the wisdom he grants me in my life about every decision I must make.Futhermore,I look forward to the return of the greatest military leader that ever existed.(the reason the jews could not admit "jesus's supremacy is because they were awaiting a military messiah)
In ancient Egypt, the pharaohs were anointed in the Mesopotamian tradition with the fat of the sacred crocodile, who was epitomized by the god Sobek and was called the Messeh. In Mesopotamia, the equivalent noble creature was the Mus-hus, a giant serpentine quadruped not unlike the great forked-tongued monitors still found in Africa, Arabia and the East, and the mighty 10-foot Komodo dragon of Indonesia
It is from the words Messah and Mus-hus that the Hebrew stem MSSH derived - the stem which (with added vowels) formed the verb mashiach (to anoint) and the noun Messiah (Meschiach), which means ' Anointed One' - i.e. King or Christ (Greek: Kristos).
You accuse Christians of being literalists when you are confronted with the eight legged horse thing(lol).Yet you seem unwilling to understand that even the bible is symbolic all the way through.It is told as a story to weed out those too dense to see the bigger picture,when one asks the right questions,then one finds the right answers.I have complaints about the bible myself,I keep telling you that.It has condensed the story of no less than 24 gods into One for the sake of form,to simplify it.That is why I believe religion is a secondary concern for a physical war.I believe you may win with your "magic"(you are kidding right?) if your magic is referring to the awakening of the white race to their predicament.If by magic you mean Kneeling in front of someone while they chant and give you a concotion to consume then I say you are as bad as what you seek to replace (priestcraft).
Wotanists have not even agreed on a scripture have they?They complain it should remain oral dont they?That is why I keep saying it is too late in the game to try to convert the mass of whites to a cult,rather meet them where they are.Even the Muslims are defending christianity,war makes for strange bedfellows.
But to answer your first question,IMO yes I will have blue gummed niggers picking my cotton in heaven.
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[UOTE=Pale Horse]Only that you keep saying that christianity hijacked much paganism,I keep agreeing and saying that the whole story was hijacked,and you keep telling me about "my jewish god".

If you worshipped Horus I would have no problem with that but you follow a false jewish "god" and promote him on this forum.

The whole story of Jesus is a rewrite of the story of Horus,an Egyptian god,from the white race,while they were in a very advanced state of civilization

Why don`t you just simply worship Horus and acknowledge him by name? Surely his name is more worthy than jewsus?

.Just because the story has been hijacked does not change the fact the veracity of the core of the story.The story has been tainted so you seek to do away with it entirely.That would be fine but the only problem that I have with it is that god still exists.Comparitive religous studies would be beneficial.There is no doubt to me that Quetzacoatl is Thoth,Marduk is Amun/Ra,etc. These gods were not the fanciful writings of a man,but actual entities that demanded loyalty and respect.

I agree.

You say we need no messiah,as our race is bred out,our enviroment is betraying us,and we are taxed on every move twice.I don't know about you,but I thank him for the wisdom he grants me in my life about every decision I must make.


But who is the "he"? Jesus or Horus?

Futhermore,I look forward to the return of the greatest military leader that ever existed.(the reason the jews could not admit "jesus's supremacy is because they were awaiting a military messiah)

Alexander the Great? Why not worship him? At least he was real and not a fictional character and just as important,ARYAN.

In ancient Egypt, the pharaohs were anointed in the Mesopotamian tradition with the fat of the sacred crocodile, who was epitomized by the god Sobek and was called the Messeh. In Mesopotamia, the equivalent noble creature was the Mus-hus, a giant serpentine quadruped not unlike the great forked-tongued monitors still found in Africa, Arabia and the East, and the mighty 10-foot Komodo dragon of Indonesia
It is from the words Messah and Mus-hus that the Hebrew stem MSSH derived - the stem which (with added vowels) formed the verb mashiach (to anoint) and the noun Messiah (Meschiach), which means ' Anointed One' - i.e. King or Christ (Greek: Kristos).
You accuse Christians of being literalists when you are confronted with the eight legged horse thing(lol).

I regard my Wotanism as being a spirituality of symbolism,not literalism.

Yet you seem unwilling to understand that even the bible is symbolic all the way through.It is told as a story to weed out those too dense to see the bigger picture,when one asks the right questions,then one finds the right answers.I have complaints about the bible myself,I keep telling you that.


I realise that some do regard it in a symbolic way but why give any credence at all to the crazed writings of psychotic jews?

It has condensed the story of no less than 24 gods into One for the sake of form,to simplify it.

No it has not "condensed 24 gods into one for simplicity" as you state.That is a falsehood.The bible constantly repeats the one god mantra which is also the teaching of the 1st commandment or have you forgotten that?

That is why I believe religion is a secondary concern for a physical war.I believe you may win with your "magic"(you are kidding right?) if your magic is referring to the awakening of the white race to their predicament.If by magic you mean Kneeling in front of someone while they chant and give you a concotion to consume then I say you are as bad as what you seek to replace (priestcraft).

You completely misunderstand my arguments.I am saying as I have always said that this war can only be won on a spiritual plane as we are fighting a struggle of cosmic proportions.Spiritual forces are at hand.I believe that unless our reasons for fighting for racial survival are noble and right that we are fighting a lost cause.It is insufficient to fight for racial survival for racial survival`s sake.We must have a higher aim.That aim for me is the manifestation of the Aryan superman,the son of the gods.We are the raw material for this manifestation.Man will become god,the plan of the ages.

Wotanists have not even agreed on a scripture have they?They complain it should remain oral dont they?That is why I keep saying it is too late in the game to try to convert the mass of whites to a cult,rather meet them where they are.Even the Muslims are defending christianity,war makes for strange bedfellows.

My friend I am trying hard not to be rude and impatient with you.The concept of "scriptures" is an entirely semitic one confined to judaism,islam and xtianity.Aryan man requires no scripture for as a child of the gods he is able through higher states of consciousness to commune with that which we commonly refer to as "god".We are the arbiters of our own "right and wrong".
There is no absolute right,wrong,good,evil or truth.
I do not recognise the semitic and childish concepts of "good and evil" per se. Nothing is inherently good or evil.Why should we need "scriptures"?
I am not trying to "convert" anyone.That is the obsession[and obsession it is] of the xtians and moslems.I am totally unconcerned about the masses,only the elite.The masses will always believe what they are told to believe anyway.


But to answer your first question,IMO yes I will have blue gummed niggers picking my cotton in heaven. [/QUOTE]

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Old January 17th, 2006 #46
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I do not promote any god on this forum,rather promoting a freedom and choice of religion.
I can translate the name in my own head,if I seek to promote either it usually ends up in a long drawn out talk about that instead of more dire issues at hand.
"He" is the spirit of guidance within me that unifies my ass with my mind.
I'm not going to worship Alexander because he did not travel the world leaving messages of prophecy,claiming sonship,and declaring as he is I shall be.
I consider the majority of religions to be symbolism and not literalism.
Psychotic jewishish lies that were retranslated by cunning Greeks and again by the English are not even accepted by the jews?I dunno why not give a little credence to it?
I dont know ,the purity and lives of my line are pretty damn important to me,if you need a crutch to put you into action,I understand.
Do you not believe that your All-Father demands a soul that will fight?I believe "god" made me to fight for what I am,just as he made the jew to fight me.He made the "Tree of Life" as well as "Tree of the Knowledge" and called them both good.I agree there is no good nor evil in the sight of eternity.
I have not forgotten the ten commandments,only I see it diffrently from you I presume?You see "there shall be no other gods before me" as" do not place a god in between you and me" I guess?I see it as"Since I have assumed command forget those other gods".The god that issued those commands was also known as Marduk,or Ra,about the time those commandments were issued he became known as Amun-Ra("hidden"-Ra).The correct question you should be asking yourself is why did he become hidden?
The word 'jehovah' was concocted or invented long ago by transposing the vowels of the word 'adonai' into the 'YHWH' - the tetragramma. In ancient Phoenician-Babylonian cultic communities, the idol 'Adonis' was most popular among the pagan masses, and it was from the name of this idol that the word 'Adonai' was taken from. The vowels of the word 'Adonai' were transposed into the tetragramma (YHWH) and the resultant word was 'jehovah.' Even the word 'Adonai' was not in the original Hebrew Holy Scriptures (Tanakh). This was also an adulteration, an addition.
The real meaning of the word 'yehovah' is destruction, desolation, perdition (remember there is no letter 'j' in Hebrew, both archaic and modern). A simple research into the meanings and etymologies of these words will clearly reveal this.
'How can you say that you are wise, even if you have the Tanakh, when the lying pens of the scribes have altered them?' - Jeremiah 8:8, putting it in a clearer sense
Why not call the Creator plainly as 'god'?
The origin of this word is the root word: 'KHUDA' - which was an ancient (skull) idol of the Persians and Babylonians. This can also be easily checked out by checking out the name of the cultic idol 'Baal Gad' mentioned in the Holy Scriptures several times
Another word given as a clue in the Holy Writ is the retained word 'gol-GOT-tha' - which means 'place of the skull.' The word 'got' refers to the skeletal remains of the human head, commonly used by mediums and witches! So when anyone prays to 'god' - you now know whom he is really, actually praying to.
By tradition, men have adopted a proper name of an idol to be used as a generic or common name for supernatural beings; like using a famous name brand, and making it the common name for other similar products.
Why not 'Ha-Shem' or 'Adonai?
Again, the root words of these are idolatrous, to wit: 'Shem' - from the root word 'Shemiramis' the Babylonian goddess 'Adonai - from the root word 'Adonis' - the ancient Phoenician-Greek idol of male fertility, notorious for phallic worship.
Why not call the Messiah 'Jesus'?
This word is the Greek translation from the original Hebrew - used by human translators for easier acceptance in the Greek-speaking world during earlier times; also, the Greeks at that time were so fond of their mythological, pagan worship of 'Zeus' and also 'Dionysius'; so the genuine Name of the Messiah was translated into a more familiar and palatable version, 'Iesous,' from which the very popular 'Jesus' was taken.
A simple research into the true person of 'El' in Babylonian and Chaldee mythology, will reveal that 'El' was a very popular pagan idol in the early history of these people. He was an idol associated with incest, lust, immorality and treachery. The word 'Shaddai' refers to seducing spirits of the wicked realm. Using this title activates seducing spirits with the immoral characteristics of 'El' - luring many people into slavery to pagan idolatry. Even witches know this and use this specific title in their incantations, faith healing sessions, and satanic worship.
“For though there be that are called gods, whether in heaven or in earth, (as there be gods many, and lords many,) But TO US THERE IS BUT ONE GOD, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.” I Cor 8:5-6
“Let US make man in OUR image, after OUR likeness...” Gen 1:26
And the Lord God said, behold, the man is to become as one of US, to know good and evil.” Gen 3:22
In Ecclesiates 12:1 in the King James and most other Bibles the word “creator” is singular. This shows a definite bias for in the Hebrew it reads: “Remember now thy CREATORS in the days of thy youth.”

“And I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob by the name of God Almighty, but by my name Jehovah was I not known to them.” Ex 6:3

Book of Psalms
Chapter 82


82:1
God standeth in the congregation of the mighty; he judgeth among the gods.

82:2
How long will ye judge unjustly, and accept the persons of the wicked? Selah.

82:3
Defend the poor and fatherless: do justice to the afflicted and needy.

82:4
Deliver the poor and needy: rid them out of the hand of the wicked.

82:5
They know not, neither will they understand; they walk on in darkness: all the foundations of the earth are out of course.

82:6
I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High.

82:7
But ye shall die like men, and fall like one of the princes.

82:8
Arise, O God, judge the earth: for thou shalt inherit all nations


What plant do you call this?Earth?What was the root for that name? EA
The ones in control know this whole story man.The real story,that is why they are kicking our asses.
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Old January 18th, 2006 #47
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QUOTE=Pale Horse]I do not promote any god on this forum,rather promoting a freedom and choice of religion.
I can translate the name in my own head,if I seek to promote either it usually ends up in a long drawn out talk about that instead of more dire issues at hand.

The spiritual aspect and dimension of our struggle is no less important than any other aspect of our "movement"/struggle.

"He" is the spirit of guidance within me that unifies my ass with my mind.
I'm not going to worship Alexander because he did not travel the world leaving messages of prophecy,claiming sonship,and declaring as he is I shall be.

Alexander not only "travelled" but conquered the known world,the greatest conqueror of all time.He is worthy of worship and indeed was reckoned to be a son of Zeus.In fact Achilles was one of his ancestors.Alexander not only recognised his divine "sonship" but encouraged others to recognise it.

I consider the majority of religions to be symbolism and not literalism.
Psychotic jewishish lies that were retranslated by cunning Greeks and again by the English are not even accepted by the jews?I dunno why not give a little credence to it?

I cannot give any credence to teh scriptures.Not only are they jewish ramblings but they reflect a semitic and not an Aryan mode of thinking and behaving.

I dont know ,the purity and lives of my line are pretty damn important to me,if you need a crutch to put you into action,I understand.
Do you not believe that your All-Father demands a soul that will fight?I believe "god" made me to fight for what I am,just as he made the jew to fight me.He made the "Tree of Life" as well as "Tree of the Knowledge" and called them both good.I agree there is no good nor evil in the sight of eternity.
I have not forgotten the ten commandments,only I see it diffrently from you I presume?You see "there shall be no other gods before me" as" do not place a god in between you and me" I guess?I see it as"Since I have assumed command forget those other gods".The god that issued those commands was also known as Marduk,or Ra,about the time those commandments were issued he became known as Amun-Ra("hidden"-Ra).The correct question you should be asking yourself is why did he become hidden?

There is evidence in the Old Testament for the plurality of god and that the jews were originally a polytheistic people. How and why they became monotheists is open to speculation. There may be a connection with ancient Egypt,indeed as you will be aware the jews were nororious plagiarists who stole their mythology from other peoples putting their own slant on it.

The word 'jehovah' was concocted or invented long ago by transposing the vowels of the word 'adonai' into the 'YHWH' - the tetragramma. In ancient Phoenician-Babylonian cultic communities, the idol 'Adonis' was most popular among the pagan masses, and it was from the name of this idol that the word 'Adonai' was taken from. The vowels of the word 'Adonai' were transposed into the tetragramma (YHWH) and the resultant word was 'jehovah.' Even the word 'Adonai' was not in the original Hebrew Holy Scriptures (Tanakh). This was also an adulteration, an addition.
The real meaning of the word 'yehovah' is destruction, desolation, perdition (remember there is no letter 'j' in Hebrew, both archaic and modern). A simple research into the meanings and etymologies of these words will clearly reveal this.
'How can you say that you are wise, even if you have the Tanakh, when the lying pens of the scribes have altered them?' - Jeremiah 8:8, putting it in a clearer sense
Why not call the Creator plainly as 'god'?
The origin of this word is the root word: 'KHUDA' - which was an ancient (skull) idol of the Persians and Babylonians. This can also be easily checked out by checking out the name of the cultic idol 'Baal Gad' mentioned in the Holy Scriptures several times

I have no problem with the word "god" as a term of address.I would distinguish however between the xtian Der Gott and the more pagan Germanic Das Gott or Gottos.Hitler often spoke about the Creator,the Almighty etc but this must not be confused with any reference to the xtian god.The "Das" definite pronoun indicates a more neutral force or "absolute" to use the Hindu term,not a personal transcendant god as in the judeo-xtian tradition.
 
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[QUOTE=sean(doc)martin] Why do you continue to take the discussion away from the Jews?

Because it is just as important if not more so to talk about those that broke trail for the Jews for the last 2000 years.

The nigger problem was caused by the Jews and the Jew problem was caused by White Xtians. Eliminating or seperating from the White Xtians is essential to White survival. If a Aryan Nation ever comes about, the Xtians must be excluded for all times at any cost!
 
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Owain Glyndwr,

I read what you wrote about Chain. Your a defective, twisted piece of jew worshiping shit and at this time I can say that if your life ended now, we would be better off. Go drink some of that Xtain flavored Kool-aid.
 
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I have uncovered two pamphlets from the National Socialist era. After reading the first pamphlet about Japan's Emperor religion, and the final part of the second pamphlet, of Rudolf Hess' "Oath to the Fuhrer", it would appear that NS Germany was attempting to create an Aryan version of the emperor religion of ancient Japan.


http://www.calvin.edu/academic/cas/gpa/japan.htm

Death as such holds no terrors for the Japanese warrior. For the Japanese, death is not an end, but rather a stage in the eternal progression from ancestors to posterity. It is a door that is not the end, but the beginning. Death on the battlefield makes one a kind of god, a "Kami," who does not dwell far from the living, but rather always and ever joins with millions of others to hold his protective hand over the Japanese nation and people. He defends their happiness and growth, and takes a living role in all the earthly affairs of the entire people. The fallen become divine, and remain close to the coming generations. They are honoured by them daily and live on in the nation as models and defenders of coming generations…

…What could America and England know of the sacrificial spirit of Japan's heroes, who suicidally plunged down on enemy fleets at Pearl Harbour or the Malacca Peninsula? At best they could only defend themselves, but could do nothing against the released power of Japanese heroes, for whom life was nothing, the greatness of their Fatherland and their Emperor everything?..

The Japanese army displayed the same heroic spirit. Since the beginning of Japan's modern armed forces, it has gone from victory …

…The emperor cult's strongest supporters are in the Japanese army. In honouring the emperor, they see the strongest expression of their national faith, for his ancestry reaches back unbroken to the sun god. The person of the emperor is the holiest thing not only on earth, but between heaven and earth. In the eyes of the Japanese, the emperor himself is a god.

These are ideas that are difficult to understand from our Western perspective, and hard to express in Western language. But the emperor cult, which one might call the ancestor worship of the entire nation, is not the private belief of individual Japanese. It is the core of the Japanese community. Without it, the Japanese would be only an interesting and unusually hard-working Asian people. The emperor cult not only raises the Japanese far above the other peoples, but also forms the most unique form of government, governmental consciousness and religious fanaticism in the entire world.

One can only understand the enormous power that the emperor cult gives the Japanese people which one has seem it in action in Japanese life. The materialistic peoples of America and England cannot understand this form of state religion. They do not comprehend it. They cannot understand the enormous strength the emperor cult gives the Japanese people. This strength is spiritual, and can outweigh superior fleets of battleships and armaments budgets. It cannot be measured in numbers, but it is there, wonderful and productive….


The Strength of the Axis
National Socialist Germany is in the best position to understand Japan. We and the other nations of the Axis are fighting for the same goals that Japan is fighting for in East Asia, and understand the reasons that forced it to take action. We can also understand the driving force behind Japan's miraculous rise, for we National Socialists also put the spirit over the material. The Axis Pact that ties us to Japan is not a treaty of political convenience like so many in the past, made only to reach a political goal. The Berlin-Rome-Tokyo alliance is a world-wide spiritual program of the young peoples of the world. It is defeating the international alliance of convenience of Anglo-Saxon imperialist monopolists and unlimited Bolshevist internationalism. It is showing the world the way to a better future. In joining the Axis alliance of the young peoples of the world, Japan is using its power not only to establish a common sphere of economic prosperity in East Asia. It is also fighting for a new world order. New and powerful ideas rooted in the knowledge of the present and the historical necessities of the future that are fought for with fanatical devotion have always defeated systems that have outlived their time and lost their meaning.

http://www.calvin.edu/academic/cas/gpa/hess1.htm


The Oath to Adolf Hitler
Speech by Rudolf Hess on 25 February 1934

Political leaders! Leaders of the Labour Service, the forces of labour! Women's leaders, HJ leaders! Leaders of the BDM! You will now take an oath to Adolf Hitler!
Your oath is not a mere formality; you do not swear this oath to someone unknown to you. You do not swear in hope, but with certainty. Fate has made it easy for you to take this oath without condition or reservation. Never in history has a people taken an oath to a leader with such absolute confidence as the German people have in Adolf Hitler. You have the enormous joy of taking an oath to a man who is the embodiment of a leader. You take an oath to the fighter who demonstrated his leadership over a decade, who always acts correctly and who always chose the right way, even when at times the larger part of his movement failed to understand why.

You take an oath to a man whom you know follows the laws of providence, which he obeys independently of the influence of earthly powers, who leads the German people rightly, and who will guide Germany's fate. Through your oath you bind yourselves to a man who — that is our faith — was sent to us by higher powers. Do not seek Adolf Hitler with your mind. You will find him through he strength of your hearts!

Adolf Hitler is Germany and Germany is Adolf Hitler. He who takes an oath to Hitler takes an oath to Germany!

Swear to great Germany, to whose sons and daughters throughout the world I send our best wishes.

[Throughout Germany people take the oath.]
This has been the greatest common taking of an oath in history!
We greet the Führer!
 
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1937 March 21 Mit brennender Sorge, is read from the pulpits of all Catholic Churches in Germany on Palm Sunday. It has been smuggled into Germany, secretly printed and distributed by messenger throughout the nation. "With deep anxiety and with ever-growing dismay" Pius XI says he has watched the tribulations of the Catholic Church in Germany. The Concordat of 1933 is now being openly violated, and the conscience of the faithful oppressed as never before. True belief in God, the Pope declares, is irreconcilable with the deification of earthly values such as race, people or the state. Important as these are in the natural order, they can never be the ultimate norm of all things. Belief in a national God or a national religion, similarly is a grave error. The God of Christianity cannot be imprisoned "within the frontiers of a single people, within the pedigree of one single race." (Lewy)


1933 April 26 Hitler tells Bishop Berning and Monsignor Steinmann, representatives of the Catholic Church in Germany, that he is only going to do to the Jews what the Church of Rome has been trying to do without success for over 1,500 years. (Lewy)
(Note: Hitler stated that he was personally convinced of the great power and significance of Christianity and would not permit the founding of another religion. For this reason, he said, he had parted company with General Ludendorff, and stressed that Rosenberg's anticlerical book was no concern of his -- since it was a private publication. Being a Catholic himself, Hitler added, he would not tolerate another Kulturkampf and the rights of the Church would be left intact. (Lewy)

1934 January 24 Alfred Rosenberg is appointed deputy of the Fuehrer for the supervision of the spiritual and ideological training of the National Socialist Party. (Lewy)

1934 February 7 Hitler tells Cardinal Schulte that he does not like Rosenberg's Myth of the 20th Century. He supported Rosenberg, the theoretician of the National Socialist Party, Hitler said, but did not identify himself with Rosenberg, the author. (Lewy)

1934 February 9 The Sacred Congregation of the Holy Office in Rome announces that Alfred Rosenberg's Myth of the 20th Century has been placed on the Church's Index of Forbidden Books. (Lewy)

1934 June 5-7 The Fulda Bishops' Conference notes that "contrary to earlier declarations of the Fuehrer, the National Socialist movement itself now wanted to constitute a Weltanschauung (worldview)." Religion could not be based on Blood and race or other dogmas of human creation, the bishops write, but only on divine revelation taught by the Church and its visible head, the Vicar of Christ in Rome. (Lewy)

1934 June 17 On one of the rare occasions when he dares criticize the Nazi regime, Vice Chancellor von Papen makes a much-publicized speech at Marburg, saying that the Church must be granted the right to oppose the state's totalitarian claims when those claims intrude into the realm of religion. (Lewy)

1935 July 19 Alfred Rosenberg's latest book An die Dunkelmanner unserer Zeit, written as an answer his critics in the Catholic Church, is also put on the Church's Index of Forbidden Books. (Lewy)

1935 August 20 The Catholic bishops send a lengthy memorandum to Hitler complaining that because of the support and publicity given by the party to Rosenberg's books, the public could only conclude that neo paganism and National Socialism were identical. (Lewy)

1937 June 16 The German People's Church (Deutsche Volkskirche) is accredited as the official Nazi church

1941 November Heydrich reports to the Foreign Ministry that a thirty-point program for a so-called neo-pagan "National Reich Church," circulated as a leaflet in Germany and attributed by Allied propaganda to Rosenberg, was actually written in 1937 by an eccentric from Stettin (G). Heydrich attributes its reappearance to Catholic elements out to discredit the regime. (Lewy)
(Note: William Shirer in The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich, accepted this leaflet as a genuine work by Rosenberg.)
 
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Birth and Death

Birth and death are the same; they are the two sides of one door. To enter one room always means leaving another. It depends on which room or which life we are in as to whether we say "entrance" or "exit," life or death. For he who understands it, death holds no terrors. But he who did not go his proper way in life and sinned will see his guilt in death. But there is after death no place of torture, no hell. To see one's guilt is the severest judgment and at the same time the greatest penalty. Judgment and punishment are within yourself. Neglected work can only be made up by double effort. It will once more be your choice, either to work toward the world plan, or to be its enemy. That is the only death that there is, to become a force for destruction rather than for creation, and this death is not physical. It is your free choice to decide on which side you belong, on god's or, to use an old term, "the devil's." What we call birth and death is only the door between two worlds. There is no birth and no death, only change, and we can go confidently through the door, for all the worlds were created by one hand.

Nature

The divine is powerful in its creatures. It dwells not in walls that people build. They may be witnesses of its will, but god is in the living. Our ancestors went into the forests to find or to honor god. They greeted his light rising in the morning. That was more to them than a lamp in a man's hand. They stood on mountain tops because his greatest work, the starry sky, was nearest there, not covered by a roof of stone. The great spring flowing from the mountain was more genuine and nearer to god than anything that could flow from a bottle held by a human hand. Who dares to say that they were not close to the living god? Other peoples may seek refuge in the stone walls of their cities or seek their god in caves. The true German senses god with holy fear in the life of creation. He prays to god by honoring his great works. Who dares to say that God is nearer to us in that which human beings have built? The faith of our fathers remains strong in us. Still today the German wanders through his countryside and is moved by the beauty of the land god has given him. The summits of his mountains give freedom. He feels eternity amidst the sea. Flowing water is to him the image of eternal change. He protects the forest and the tree and the bush as if they were his comrades. He loves the animals that are tortured and tormented in other countries. What to him is part of his household is elsewhere only a possession. He sees and honors in everything god's creation, in the holy earth, in the wandering wind, in the flickering flames, in which there is always change. Ever again we stand on the summits of the peaks and wave the torch and feel the magnificent and the ineffable. Who dares chide us because our eyes are open?
 
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Background: This is the introduction to a Nazi book published in 1941. It outlines how political leaders are to conduct so-called Lebensfeiern, rituals of birth, marriage, and death. The goal was, over time, to replace the ceremonies of the church with those of the party. The Nazis had limited success in establishing their ceremonies in the time they had, but as this essay notes, they were planning for coming generations, and realized it would take time and hard work to displace traditional rituals.

The source: Lebensfeiern. Richtlinien und Anleitungen für die Gestaltung lebenszeitlicher Feiern (Linz: Gauschulungsamt Oberdonau der NSDAP, 1941).

Nazi Rituals

Our movement developed as a political party whose main goal was to fight for political power, and after that victory, to win Germany's political freedom and to build a new Reich. However, our idea, the National Socialist worldview, was the foundation and guide of our political battle from the first years of the movement and even more so in the present, marking the character of the great spiritual, worldview controversy of our age. Even during the struggle for power [the Nazi term for the period 1919-1933], there were signs that life rituals were becoming an essential part of our worldview struggle. We think particularly of the death ceremonies of the movement before the takeover of power. Their development continued in steadily increasing degree, and that which we once longed for has today become certainty.

Life ceremonies have become a decisive, essential matter, an aspect of the battle of worldviews, of the great spiritual struggle. They are the final and critical step if the movement is to implement and realize its total political-worldview leadership. We see today that these life rituals are a new task in the movement's task of worldview leadership, which alone can lead us to the final stage in our great struggle, the total, exclusive leadership of the German people by the NSDAP.

We are in no way ignoring the powerful difficulties in this area. We are absolutely clear that his goal can only be reached over decades, perhaps even centuries. We must get used to thinking not in terms of years, but of decades in this area. We National Socialists have never shied away from difficulties and resistance of any kind. And one more critical fact. Since the takeover of power, the number of life rituals held outside the church, both in cities and the countryside, has steadily increased. The various privately produced materials on life rituals for believers in god [Gottgläubigen — the Nazi term for those who professed a vague, non-Christian religious outlook] generally do not provide acceptable guidelines and suggestions. They are not suited to our purposes. We thus have the pressing, absolutely essential need to publish comprehensive guidelines to help believers in god organize life rituals. Of course, we cannot limit ourselves only to providing guidelines for carrying out rituals, but must also discuss in detail their significance.

It is clear that there can be no uniform schema for rituals, but rather we must provide general advice and material that can be used in varied settings. The basic content of rituals, growing out of their significance and meaning, has today been established. The content of the individual rituals have this achieved a form that probably can be seen in the broad outlines as final. Thus, the organization of rituals laid out in these guidelines should be seen as provisionally binding for all rituals in counties, local groups, and party divisions. The music, songs, and banners, on the other hand, allow many opportunities for variety, which can be used depending on the resources available and the strengths of those organizing rituals. The lists of music, songs, and slogans that we suggest for the individual rituals in this book are only to assist in their selection. They are only a part of what is suitable. Other choices may of course be made.

These guidelines have the primary task of avoiding, or keeping to a minimum, excesses and mistakes, which have already happened in many cases.

These guidelines are intended for the Reichsgau Oberdonau. They must serve as the basis for all life rituals conducted in the Gau. The old guidelines issued by the Gauschulungsamt in November 1938, along with all the instructions from the individual county offices (Kreisschulungsämten) are no longer valid. These new guidelines will provide a common, unified foundation for the development of life rituals in our Gau, and eliminate all unhealthy directions. This will provide a good foundation for the coming unified regulation in all parts of the Reich, which is a task for the future. The issues of life rituals must mature and be clarified in the Gaue before there can be unified guidelines for the entire Reich. These guidelines are intended for the entire leadership of the Gau, which means not only the party's political leaders, but also the leaders of the individual divisions and the leaders of the women's and youth groups. We want every organization in the movement to develop life rituals in a unified manner.

All political leaders, not only the Schulungsleiter, should consider the development of life rituals to be an important task. This includes cell and block leaders. They should all see the goal that we want to reach in the future, and work toward it. All local group leaders must be aware of it as well. The circle of political leaders who can conduct life rituals must constantly grow. Thus these guidelines will be passed from the counties to local groups. The counties have in the past had almost exclusive responsibility for life rituals, but this must be increasingly transferred to local groups. The local groups must grow into their new leadership task and take on the organization and carrying out of life rituals. The local group's Schulungsleiter needs to be supported and assisted. During the transition, the support of the county office (Kreisschulungsamt) is still essential. And of course the guidelines may be given to party members involved in or interested in life rituals as well.

For simplicity, in treating the individual rituals we have always assumed they are being conducted by a party political leader. When these guidelines are being followed by one of the party's divisions, the role of the political leader should of course be taken by the corresponding affiliate leader.

All political leaders, particularly local group leaders, should be familiar with the comprehensive material on weddings and registry office formalities so that they can be implemented in their area as rapidly as possible. A special printing of a condensed version will by sent by the communal department to all mayors and registry office officials throughout the Gau to ensure uniform implementation.

One essential and decisive principle must guide everything. Our life rituals may not be merely the ritual of the party or of one of its divisions, but rather they must grow beyond the circle of the party and become over the coming years and decades the custom of the people. The first signs are present even today. We must see this goal with complete clarity, and devote our full efforts to it, for when we achieve it, we will have achieved final victory.
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Background: This is a pamphlet outlining Nazi racial theories. It seems to have been intended primarily for members of the SS, though the copy I am working from carries the stamp of a school library. The book also suggests a plan for covering the content of the booklet in eleven class periods, indicating it was intended for use in the schools.
The source: Der Reichsführer SS/SS-Hauptamt, Rassenpolitik (Berlin, 1943


The 15th and 16th centuries during the Middle Ages were a period when the Nordic spirit found characteristic expression in the Copernicus's teaching that the earth revolved around the sun. The earth, which formerly was thought to be the center of the universe, became a small planet that was just as subject to the harmony of eternal laws as the course of the stars. The former world of appearances collapsed, and the Nordic spirit opened the door to a new scientific worldview. As a result of his revolutionary discovery, the worldview the Medieval Church had so successfully built to control people's minds gradually fell apart over the following centuries. Today's scientifically-based worldview freed us from the spiritual domination of the priesthood. We owe to it our great advances in technology, the sciences, and economics.
Today we are in the middle of another revolutionary epoch. Revolutionary scientific understandings of genetics and race have found political expression in the National Socialist world view. Once again a world of appearances collapsed, which had concealed from our eyes the true nature of humanity and the connections between body, soul and spirit. The foundation of the Christian worldview is the doctrine of the separation of body and soul; the soul and spirit belong to a world independent of the physical, free of natural laws, and they are even to a certain degree able to free the human body from its natural setting. It is a major shift when racial theory recognizes the unity of body, soul and spirit and sees them as a whole that follows the eternal laws of nature. A new epoch is coming, one perhaps even more revolutionary than that resulting from Copernicus's work. Ideas about humanity and peoples that have endured for millennia are collapsing. The Nordic spirit is struggling to free itself from the chains that the Church and the Jews have imposed on Germandom. And it is not only a spiritual battle, for it finds expression in National Socialism's struggle for power, as well as in the today's battlefields to the east and west. The coming victory will bring a fundamental change in our view of the world, and opens the way for Nordic mankind to a new and greater future.


"The human soul does not exist independent of the body, as the Church teaches. Body and soul are an inseparable unity. The living body is the manifestation of the soul."
 
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The Law of Honour of the SS-Man

In a slim volume called 50 Questions and Answers for the SS-Man the first question is: "What is your oath?" The answer is: "We swear to you, Adolf Hitler, loyalty and bravery as leader and chancellor of the German Reich. We vow to you and to the principles laid down by you obedience to the point of death. So help us God!" The second question is: "Thus you believe in a God?" The answer is: "Yes, I believe in a Lord God." The third question is: "What do you think of a person who does not believe in a God?" The answer is: "I consider him arrogant, stupid, and a megalomaniac; he is not suited for us."
I have reminded you of these three questions and answers in order to make our attitude to religion completely clear. Be in no doubt that we would not be able to be this body of men bound by a solemn oath if we did not have the firm belief in a Lord God who rules over us, who has created us and out Fatherland, our people and this earth, and who sent us our leader.
We have the holy conviction that according to the eternal laws of this world we are accountable for every deed, for every word, and every thought, that nothing our mind thinks up, our tongue speaks, and our hand does is completed with the act itself, but is a cause which will have its effect, which in an inevitable, inexorable cycle rebounds on ourselves and our people in the form of a blessing or curse. Believe me, men with this conviction are anything but atheists.

Blood and Soil

There is a second declaration I would like to make to you, German peasants, as SS Reichsführer, being myself in ancestry, blood and nature a peasant: the blood principle which has always been embodied in the Schutzstaffel from the very beginning would be condemned to death if it were not inextinguishably bound up with the belief in the value and holiness of the soil. . . . I can assure you it is no coincidence if the National Peasant Leader of the German Reich has for years been an SS leader and, as Chief Section Leader, is head of the SS Race-and Settlement Office, just as it is no coincidence that I am a peasant and belong to the Reich's Peasant Council. . . .

Bolshevism is No Transitory Phenomenon
I return to my starting-point and would like to stress once more that we do not see Bolshevism as a transitory phenomenon which can be simply debated out of existence or eliminated by wishful thinking. We know the Jew all too well, this race which has been compounded from the dregs of all the peoples and nations of this planet and which he has stamped his Jewish racial character, who takes pleasure in destruction, whose will is to annihilate, whose religion is godlessness, whose idea is Bolshevism. We do not underestimate him because we have known him for centuries; we do not underestimate him because we believe in the divine mission of our people and in our strength which as been renewed through the leadership and work of Adolf Hitler.

The Schutzstaffel
We, the Schutzstaffel, have been formed and grown within our newly resurrected people on the command of the Führer. . . . We have formed ranks, and now, obeying unalterable laws, march as a National Socialist order of soldiers infused with a Nordic sensibility...into a distant future. We believe we will be not just the grandchildren who fought the fight more resolutely, but also the ancestors of later generations necessary for the eternal life of the German and Germanic people.

[Source: Himmler, Die Schutzstaffel als antibolschewistische Kampforganisation (The SS as an Anti-Bolshevik Fighting Organization), 1937, quoted in Roger Griffin, ed., Fascism (Oxford: Oxford University Press, 1995), pp. 146-148.]
 
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While he was critical of Christianity, Hitler was no atheist. "The religion of Hitlerism was thus essentially a kind of deism," concludes Birken. Like Thomas Jefferson and other prominent early American leaders, Hitler equated God with "the dominion of natural laws throughout the whole universe." Thus, "for Hitler, national socialism was natural socialism."

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The Enigma of Hitler
Leon Degrelle

Transcendent Faith

Did Hitler believe in God? He believed deeply in God. He called God the Almighty, master of all that is known and unknown.
Propagandists portrayed Hitler as an atheist. He was not. He had contempt for hypocritical and materialistic clerics, but he was not alone in that. He believed in the necessity of standards and theological dogmas, without which, he repeatedly said, the great institution of the Christian church would collapse. These dogmas clashed with his intelligence, but he also recognized that it was hard for the human mind to encompass all the problems of creation, its limitless scope and breathtaking beauty. He acknowledged that every human being has spiritual needs.
The song of the nightingale, the pattern and color of a flower, continually brought him back to the great problems of creation. No one in the world has spoken to me so eloquently about the existence of God. He held this view not because he was brought up as a Christian, but because his analytical mind bound him to the concept of God. Hitler's faith transcended formulas and contingencies. God was for him the basis of everything, the ordainer of all things, of his destiny and that of all others.

Excerpted from volume two of Degrelle's uncompleted multi-volume series on the life and legacy of Adolf Hitler. Degelle's Hitler: Born at Versailles can be purchased from Noontide Press.

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The National Socialist religion: what Hitler meant by his Table Talks.

"What we must fight for is to safeguard the existence and reproduction of our race and our people, the sustenance of our children and the purity of our blood, the freedom and independence of the fatherland, so that our people may mature for the fulfilment of the mission allotted it by the creator of the universe." Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf

The National-Socialist Way
The fundamental tenets, or principles, of this way of life (or religion) are:


1) That there exists an eternal creator - or ‘God’ - and that this supra-human Being creates, or can create, Order from Chaos. Order is the very life of this Being. Order itself is a new, a better, more evolved, or more excellent, arrangement of things.

2) That the Swastika Cross in National Socialist theology represents Order, evolution, and victory. Hence the statement:

“..In the Swastika the mission of the struggle for victory of the Aryan man [evolution], and, by the same token, the victory of the idea of creative work [Order], which as such always has been and always will be anti-Semitic.”
Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf


3) That spirit does not exist independent of the body. Body and soul are an inseparable unity. Subject to the eternal laws of Nature.

4) That the Devil does not exist, nor Hell. What exists is the cosmos: both visible and invisible.

5) That matter (causal) and spirit (acausal) coexist in symbiosis.

6) That organic life itself is an expression, or manifestation, of the Order which this supra-human Being creates, and is thus an expression of the life, the spirit, of this Being.

7) That change is a natural part of the evolution of Order from Chaos and that this, for organic life, involves the organic process of birth-life-death-renewal.

8) That death is not the final end of life, but the beginning of further change, a renewal of the cosmic order itself. (Reincarnation).

9) That what we call Nature is the divine - the Order created by this Being - made manifest on this planet we call Earth. The creative force, or energy, which is present in Nature, and which produces, and causes changes in, living things - including ourselves - is the eternal creator, living and evolving, that is, creating more Order.

10) That we, as individuals, are ‘God’ - the very cosmos itself - made manifest. We sentient (that is, conscious and aware) beings are the striving of the eternal creator for more cosmic Order.

11) That our evolution, as human beings, is an increase in the cosmic Order and expresses the purpose, the life, or the will of the eternal creator. Thus the striving, or struggle, for Order (or excellence) - for evolution toward higher forms - here on this planet, is how ‘God’ works on this planet of ours, and is thus natural and necessary, for without it, there would be no order and no evolution toward higher forms.

12) That ‘God’ exists, or functions, in us through honour (or fairness), through curiosity (or reason) and through striving (or the triumph of individual will).
Thus, an honourable individual is someone who is doing the will, or accomplishing the work, of this eternal creator.


13) That culture, race and excellence of individual character express the will of this Being - of this Being working through Nature to bring about more Order, more diversity and more difference through evolution.

Thus, culture is one way in which ’God’ is manifest to us, as human beings on this planet of ours. Culture thus expresses the essence of our humanity - of what makes us human. To preserve, and to further evolve, each race is to act in accord with the will, the purpose, of the divine creator, while to undermine or seek to destroy racial difference and diversity, is to act against the will of the divine creator.


14) That the Aryan race has a special character, and a Destiny.
This character is expressed in our honour, curiosity and striving, and is made manifest by the civilization which Aryans create when they live according to their divine nature.

The Destiny of the human species is to bring the light of diverse civilizations into the world, and to spread this light - the honour and the reason of civilization - out into the cosmos itself by venturing forth to explore and settle the star-systems of the cosmos.





"Man is becoming God. Those who see in National Socialism nothing more than a political movement know scarcely anything of it. It is more even than a religion. It is the will to create mankind anew".
-- Adolf Hitler

"I merely call attention to the fact that one cannot escape this world entirely. The elements of which our body is made belong to the cycle of nature; and as for our soul, it's possible that it might return to limbo, until it gets an opportunity to reincarnate itself."
Hitler's Table Talks

"Were an Asiatic to ask me for a definition of Europe, I should be forced to answer him: It is that part of the world which is haunted by the incredible delusion that man was created out of nothing, and that his present birth is his first entrance into life."

"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident".

- Arthur Schopenhauer


"Live so that thou mayest desire to live again - that is thy duty - for in any case thou wilt live again!"

“Everything goeth, everything returneth; eternally rolleth the wheel of existence. Everything dieth, everything blossometh forth again; eternally runneth on the year of existence.
Everything breaketh, everything is integrated anew; eternally buildeth itself the same house of existence. All things separate, all things again greet one another; eternally true to itself remaineth the ring of existence.”

"Behold, we know what thou teachest: that all things eternally return, and ourselves with them, and that we have already existed times without number, and all things with us."

Freidrich Nietzsche


"National Socialism stands or falls by its Weltanschauung."

"Today a new faith is stirring: the myth of blood, the faith that along with blood we are defending the divine nature of man as a whole."

"Thou shall love God in all things: Animals and plants."

Alfred Rosenberg


"He (Adolf Hitler) could not bear to eat meat, because it meant the death of a living creature. He refused to have so much as a rabbit or a trout sacrificed to provide his food. He would allow only eggs on his table, because egg-laying meant that the hen had been spared rather than killed."
Leon Degrelle

“The Führer is deeply religious, but deeply anti-Christian. He regards Christianity as a symptom of decay.”
Joseph Goebbels Diary, 1939
 
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Why do you continue to take the discussion away from the Jews?

Because it is just as important if not more so to talk about those that broke trail for the Jews for the last 2000 years.

The nigger problem was caused by the Jews and the Jew problem was caused by White Xtians. Eliminating or seperating from the White Xtians is essential to White survival. If a Aryan Nation ever comes about, the Xtians must be excluded for all times at any cost!

I agree with you 100%. You have a very clear insight into the jewish/xtian question which are basically 2 sides of the same semitic coin.
 
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Hollywood Nazi thank you for posting this inspiring and informative material.You have given us all food for thought.
 
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Hollywood Nazi thank you for posting this inspiring and informative material.You have given us all food for thought.
Yes, I am really pleased that someone has appreciated my efforts. I'm so used to being laughed at, or ridiculed, for stating that National Socialism was/is a religious Weltanschauung. Far too many NS people are either seculists or Christians. Hopefully, my posts will be read in the future by many people. I'd be interested to learn what they think about the Japanese Emperor cult. Was this ancient national religion of Japan an inspiration for National Socialist Germany? I believe this was the case, and the evidence seems to point to a German National Socialist equivalent of the Emperor cult.
 
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