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'The Eternal Mystery'
The Führer once said: “If you take an idol from people, you must replace it with a true god.” Our god is the wonderful law of creation, whose amazing unity of all things shows itself in wonderful flowers, in growing trees, in new born children, in the secrets of a mother, in the growth of our people, in work and accomplishment and creation, in life itself. It is the joy we have in everything. How beautiful everything is. Do you feel the same way? I am so happy to be alive. This life is where we build the eternity of the nation. What happens to me when I die? I do not know. One thing I do know. I will return to the earth and will belong again to the wonderful Mother Earth. Isn’t that enough? If only a blade of grass of a flower grows from my grave, that is enough for me. I am happy with what I have done so far. It was both hard and beautiful, and I am thankful for these 48 years. And if I remain alive long enough to finish my work, I can die in peace. Death will hold no terrors for me... A priest recently asked me: “But what about eternity...?” I replied: “A day in National Socialist Germany is better for me than all of your heaven.” ...The priests then seem to have had the same weapons as their counterparts today: they count on human weakness and cowardice. We, however, build on human courage and manliness. That is the difference. We want to tell the people the truth, not console them with hopes of a better tomorrow. We want to make the world beautiful, to hold high the concept of work. We want to say that one can’t take problems away from people, that life is struggle. No one has greater reverence for god and creation than we do. The priests do not hate us because we are “godless,” since they get along nicely with the godless in Russia and Spain. They hate us because we are the only ones who believe in god. We are finding god, indeed we have already found him. Where does the desire for god come from, where does faith come from, or true piety, if not from god? We have become a people that believes in god. This is what our idea of life and of affirming life has accomplished, becoming the idea of Germany. We will be able to do everything if that grows from its small beginning into a religion, to something holy to the German people. It will not be a false religious mysticism, but rather it will be frank, honorable, military, manly, disciplined and tough...We are building our new state on the basis of race and community, our race, the German people. We believe that god gave us our blood not to ruin it, but to keep it pure and pass it on to our children and our children’s children. That is eternity. That is our defense against the dark powers of Marxism, Bolshevism, liberalism, Freemasonry and a belief in the Messiah, the Jewish doctrine of salvation. That is a teaching that affirms life. It is the idea of race, blood, and soil, the idea of this life and the beauties of the earth, Mother Earth, that is our fatherland... The source: Robert Ley, “Wir oder die Juden...,” Die Hoheitsträger 3 (May 1939), pp. 4-6. The Thousand Year Reich: "We can be happy to know that this future belongs entirely to us!" In all millennia, serious people have researched and pondered about the meaning of this life. Some found their life goal in enjoying the pleasures of this life as much as possible. They became superficial materialists. Others figured this life is only a brief, but difficult, test, a bridge to a better afterlife or eternal damnation. The most diverse religions portrayed this afterlife each according to the racial nature of its promotors and spreaders. The diverse priest castes did more or less good business with this afterlife. Each claimed sole and absolute knowledge about this afterlife. They sold – following diverse cult ceremonies – to living and dead places, advantages, honorary offices and mercy-gifts. It was the simplest and most primitive business, because no person returned from the afterlife and held the priest accountable. The witchdoctor of the Negro Bushmen ran as little risk as the oriental magician, if he sold the afterlife to the believers as a business. In all periods there have also been people who opposed this afterlife materialism. A medieval story relates: Two monks portray the afterlife to each other again and again in their conversations. They imagine all the individual choruses and departments of angels and holy-men, the rank differences of the individual heavenly places, the otherworldly music, the heavenly hallelujah songs, God’s throne etc.. They promise each other that the one who dies first will appear to the other the first night in a dream and tell him what it looks like in the afterlife. If it is as they imagined it, he will simply say "totally". If it is different, he will say "different". When one of the monks died, he actually did appear to the other the first night. But he did not say "totally" or "different", rather "totally different". That is the old wisdom of Nordic man: The Almighty has put a curtain in front of life after death. It is a secret to us. No person may presume to possess any privileged knowledge about life after death. And yet, our faith and our knowledge go beyond our earthly life. We know that each of us is a link in an endless chain that stretches from the oldest ancestors to the most distant descendants, that our river of blood comes from distant times and flows across our earthly life into the distant future. And this knowledge broadens our view and leads it across hundreds of thousands of years. And this knowledge gives us the strength of millennia and lets us surmise eternity. It places us into the endless cycle of creation. "And this knowledge gives us the strength of millennia and lets us surmise eternity. It places us into the endless cycle of creation." We know that even the person who is the last link of his clan can secure an eternal future through his works and deeds. The unknown worker who chisels, transports, and puts together the building blocks for the great protective wall of the German folk or for the splendid buildings of the Third Reich, will live on in these works just like the great intellectual creators of these works. The soldier and the policeman who were the guarantors for the safe return of lost German territories to the Reich, and the quiet fighters for the freedom of the German folk, will live on forever in the Greater German Reich just like its great shapers. Our reverence for the Almighty, however, is so great that we reject portraying the afterlife materialistically. We openly affirm here: About an afterlife we know nothing and will never know anything. This affirmation leads us with doubled energy to this side, to earthly life. The creator put us in the life cycle of our folk. The meaning of our life is to fulfill the task given us in the organism of this folk. We fulfill the meaning of our life, when we do everything possible to manifest and shape, to train and perfect the energies and abilities the Lord has given us. We are on earth so that we continue God’s work of creation in our blood and body, in our intellect and our soul. Anton Holzner, Eternal Front The poor deluded sap who orginally posted the above video on Youtube seems to think Goebbels was denouncing Paganism. Goebbels was obviously mocking the Church.... Last edited by Gerry Fable; May 2nd, 2015 at 04:13 PM. Reason: Link added |
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As far as blood nationalism being a rival "religion", not so sure about that since it only requires the belief that a nation has the right and obligation to protect its genetic heritage, first and foremost; I mean, it actually IS a religion in that it is a belief that can't be rationally proven, but the importance of it can be seen by viewing the nation as an extension of family; it's kinda like why a mother would prefer her own biological child to an unrelated child. So the belief has a basis in human emotion, as opposed to a religious belief such as believing it was three days (not four, not two) after Jesus died that he rose again.
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A mother doesn't believe her child is "superior" to other children; likewise, a healthy blood-nation doesn't regard itself as "superior" to other blood-nations.
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That kind of talk is unhelpful. Any rate, I just created a new thread in the WN section so as not to disrupt this thread, so any future comments should go there:
http://vnnforum.com/showthread.php?p=1832901
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Superiority is okay, but the Western tradition has warped the concept. I can believe that humans are a superior creature, even the most superior. I cannot believe that all humans and only humans have souls, or consciousness, or rights, or anything of that sort. Humanism isn't compatible with evolution.
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Alternative to this "NS is a religion" idiocy.
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Some people don't like the truth. They don't like having their worldview turned upside down (ego problem). That what they thought was National-Socialism for all these years is in fact completely wrong. That's not my problem, it is theirs.
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"Brrrrring! Brrrrrring!" *click* Yes, hallo? Ah, Mr. Hitler? Congratulations on becoming a martyr for the Aryan race! You will be remembered always for your struggles and sacrifices. Thank you, kind sir. Can I ask why you are calling? Yes, some dumbass on VNNF is trying to have National Socialism, that is, the social and economic policies of the NSDAP made into a religion. My God. I know, I was wondering if I could ask you some questions pertaining to both your views and the views of the NSDAP on religion. Hopefully this will help elucidate why National Socialism simply cannot be a religion. Of course, go ahead. What was the NS policy on religion? We demanded freedom for all religious denominations in the State so far as they are not a danger to it and do not militate against the customs and morality of the German Volk. The Party as such stands for Positive Christianity, but does not bind itself in the matter of creed to any particular denomination. It fights the spirit of Jewish materialism within and outside of our ranks and is convinced our nation can achieve permanent health from within only on the principle: "Common welfare comes before individual welfare." So, if the Party stood for Positive Christianity, would it then be absurd to turn the Party itself into a religion? Quite so, later the NSDAP dropped the Positive Christian image, but we were always wholly Christian (with some exceptions). What exceptions? There were a few Islamic Germans who practiced. We never bothered them. The irrevocable truth is that religious life in Germany, under the protection of the National Socialist state, unfolds more freely and undisturbed. No form of Godlessness or blasphemy is tolerated and the churches as well as their religious affairs are secure, undisturbed, and free of problems in a way that is unprecedented in history and almost unknown in any other country on earth. Would calling National Socialism a religion be considered blasphemy? Of course, to wit: Political is everything which in the earthly forms of organization, word, picture and demeanor, appears for the benefit of the Volk, even if it has the least meaning. Religious is everything which in earthly form is incomprehensible, like belief in heaven, eternity, and longing for things which are beyond the visible world. So you see, combining the political and religious is irreconcilable. Thank you, Mr. Hitler, for your words. Please enjoy your eternity with God. Of course, thank you for taking the time to chat. *click*
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Nazi Propaganda and the Volksgemeinschaft:
Constructing a People’s Community "To be a people is the religion of our age." Youth Ceremonies — Rites of Passage for the Youth Quote:
Free preview: New religions and the Nazis "It took thirteen years to make National Socialism a major political and religious force in Germany. How it became a political force is well understood and brilliantly analyzed by historians; how it became a religious force is not. Religion is the weapon par excellence of revolutionaries, and how else can we explain the abject moral failure and dead end that Nazism represents? And just as religion represents the failure of Nazism, religion also tells the story of how its leaders captured the imagination of millions of young Germans for National Socialism..." Review by Rev Dr Ross Clifford "The author is not guilty of reductionism as she documents other factors such as an unwanted Weimar democracy and "the postwar punishment of the Treaty of Versailles", however her additional insights into the role played by "new religions" deserve serious consideration. This is not based on conspiracy theories or secondary sources, but rather a painstaking investigation of primary sources (letters, diaries, articles, conference papers etc.) of the German Faith movements over an eight year period." "The Jewish God is the creator God separate from all his creation.... By contrast the German God as revealed by German ancestors and mystics is described in the Edda as not separate from the world, nor did he create it. There is no creation (Creation Ex Nihilo) there is only a becoming....God and world are all one.... It is an immanent God (pantheism)..." Quotes taken after 21 minutes. Jakob Wilhelm Hauer’s New Religion and National Socialism Abstract: "Jakob Wilhelm Hauer (1881-1962) was a missionary to India and, later, both a professor of religious studies at Tübingen and a founder of a new religion called the DGB. According to Hauer, his movement was the essence of National Socialism. Because some contemporary scholars try, nevertheless, to separate Hauer’s scholarship and the DGB from National Socialism, this paper reviews existing literature about the Hauer phenomenon. It does so in light of our research at the Federal Archives of Koblenz and Berlin. Then Hauer’s personal development and determination to further Nazism are traced. Together the literature review and Hauer’s view of religion show that his religious thought and his Nazi politics are inseparable." "During the Weimar Republic, flourishing new religions were harnessed to usher in the cultural revolution from the right that was soon dominated by the Nazis. J. William Hauer’s Deutsche Glaubensbewegung, an umbrella group for numerous new religions from versions of Hinduism to Nordic Neo-Paganism, all collaborated, at some point, with Hitler and his party. This paper shows the continuity of core ideas from Mathilde Ludendorff’s Gotterkenntnis to Hauer’s Glaubensbewegung and, importantly, Sigrid Hunke’s Unitarier. It shows, further, the close connections between these forms of neo-paganism and the present day European New Right. The paradoxical co-occurrence in fascism of a religious populism and a metapolitical elitism, philosophical vitalism and dreams of national or European rebirth, has its roots in these French and German forms of neo-paganism." By Karla Poewe and Irving Hexham Department of Anthropology and Religious Studies University of Calgary © 2003 German faith . Hauer published monthly magazine of the German Faith Movement, Issue November 1934 Last edited by Gerry Fable; May 10th, 2015 at 12:30 PM. |
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Hitlerian Mythos
Of course the critics of the mythos of Adolf Hitler and National-Socialism do not understand.
In this respect, the Hitler Faith is like every other mythos: For those inside the mythos, no explanation is necessary; for those outside the mythos, no explanation is possible.That is the way true religions work!
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Gottgläubig
God-Believing: The Germanic-Based Theism as promoted in Nazi Germany Erwin Peterseil The Austrian author is a 'committed anti-fascist' and is also anti-religious. He argues correctly that NS leaders were not atheists, or Christians, but deists and pantheists. “We recognize that separating humanity from Nature, from the whole of life, leads to humankind’s own destruction and to the death of nations. Only through a re-integration of humanity into the whole of Nature can our people be made stronger. That is the fundamental point of the biological tasks of our age. Humankind alone is no longer the focus of thought, but rather life as a whole. This striving toward connectedness with the totality of life, with Nature itself, a Nature into which we are born, this is the deepest meaning and the true essence of National Socialist thought.” Professor Ernst Lehmann Anton Holzner (the pseudonym for SS-Sturmbannführer Albert Hartl) was a former Catholic priest who left the priesthood and the church and became an SS officer. Two of his books, Eternal Front and Master Life, present the non-Christian religious attitude often referred to as "gottgläubig". The God That Is Ourselves "I believe in our own divinity when millions of Germans are leagued around one Leader, I know God to be in the force (Kraft) of our blood alone." (Profession of faith of the group "Volkische Aktion", February, 1937. "Gottestum im Volkstum" (Divinity manifested in racial-national essence) PROFESSOR H. SCHWARZ Last edited by Gerry Fable; May 26th, 2015 at 04:08 AM. |
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The Voice of Our Ancestors Wulf Sörensen There has been a rumour circulating for many years that the author of Die Stimme der Ahnen. Eine Dichtung (The Voice of our Ancestors. A Poem), published in 1933 under the name of Wulf Sörensen is actually Heinrich Himmler. I am unsure as to the origins of this claim. According to Ron McVan in his Voice of our Forefathers, published in 2010 the work was recommended reading for the SS. His English translation was actually carried out by Joseph `Jost` Turner who died in 1996 at the age of 50. Sadly Mr Turner`s original writings are not in print. I hope that this may be rectified in the future . Mr McVan`s book contains not only this poem but original writings by Mr McVan. I highly recommend this and all his other books. Mr McVan was one of the founders of Wotansvolk (NOT to be confused with the English Woden`s Folk) along with the late David Lane in 1995. They injected a much needed folkish consciousness into American Odinism. Wotansvolk is not an organisation but a movement. According to the German Wikipedia site the real name of the poem`s author is Frithjof Fischer who was of a similar age to Himmler (Fischer born in 1899, Himmler in 1900) and this may in part help to account for the rumour that the author was Himmler. Fischer used a number of different pseudonyms (Frithjof Fischer-Sörensen, Dieter Ott, Frithjof Asmus and Johannsen-Nürnberg) and was the founder of Nordland Verlag publishing house. Ironically he was arrested in 1936 for insulting Himmler! Although not member of the NSDAP he was an NCO in the SS (SS-Unterscharführer)and a member of the Nationalsozialistische Volkswohlfahrt (NSV)-the National Socialist People`s Welfare. "A Heathen is one who remains loyal to himself and his kind, and whose blood flows pure in his veins. This pure blood is not able to experience the world with the hateful eyes of Sinai, or with the weak knees of Nazareth. It carries the divine nature pure, clear, and beautiful in its red stream, through the generations of the race." These words whether written by Fischer or Himmler certainly accord with the beliefs of both men and resonate with Germanic heathens today. The message is clear. If we wish to experience the divine we must safeguard our blood inheritance from admixture with other races. If we don't then over time we cease to be who we are: we perish and our Gods with us. This is the message of Ragnarok/Götterdämmerung. http://aryan-myth-and-metahistory.bl...-sorensen.html The Totenkopf Honour Ring Totenkopf (death head) - The totenkopf and crossed bones means Absolute obedience right to the death. 'Death Before Dishonour'! Holy Swastika - The Sun sign: God, order, evolution and eternity. Circle, Dual Sigrunes and Tyrune - The dual sigrune was the symbol of the SS Schutzstaffel. Tyrune was the God of War. The circle is said to represent the cycle of divinity in Nature. Hagal Rune - The Hagal rune was used to instill an inner strength in the German people so that they would be fearless. Triangle and Sigrune - The sigrune was German symbol for victory. The triangle suggests the cycle of life, birth-death-rebirth; or body, spirit and soul. Ring Inside - the ring was engraved on the inside of the band with Himmlers’ signature. Recipients’ last name - The ring was engraved on the inside of the band with the letters “S.lb (for “seinen Lieben”, or “With Respect and Honour”) followed by the recipients’ last name. "The Honor Ring Citation Reads" I award you the SS Death's Head Ring. The ring symbolizes our loyalty to the Führer, our steadfast obedience and our brotherhood and comradeship. The Death's Head reminds us that we should be ready at any time to lay down our lives for the good of the Germanic people. The runes diametrically opposite the Death's Head are symbols from our past of the prosperity which we will restore through National Socialism. The two Sig-Runes stand for the name of our SS. The swastika and the Hagall-Rune represent our unshakable faith in the ultimate victory of our philosophy. The ring is wreathed in oak, the traditional German leaf. The Death's Head Ring cannot be bought or sold and must never fall into the hands of those not entitled to wear it. When you leave the SS, or when you die, the ring must be returned to the Reichsführer-SS. The unauthorized acquisition of duplicates of the ring is forbidden and punishable by Law. Wear the ring with honour! H. HIMMLER |
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STUDIES OF MIGRATION AND SETTLEMENT Administrative Series Subject: Women in Nazi Germany—711 Social and Psychological Trends Date: August 12, 1944 Study Room 115 Library of Congress Annex Washington, D. C. Tel. Republic 5127 August 12, 1944 Denazification "Gottglauebig literally translated means "believing in God," and is a portmanteau used by Hitler's pagans. The bulk of this group consists of women married to members of the Elite Guard, members of the NS Frauenschaft and of the leader corps of the BDN." The acceptance of any conception of Church relationship will be most difficult for one group of German women: the God-Believers, Gottglauebigen, the 1,500,000 members of Hitler's and Alfred Rosenberg's new pagan religion. These women are the result of Hitler's battle for deity. For them Hitler is God (sic), and Nazism is their one and only religion. This group consists of the wives of the SS men, of their children, of BDM and NS Frauenschaft Officials. They are the women who submit to the Nazi "ersatz" of Christianity, interpreting Hitler as the Aryan God (sic). A German girl described their feelings most correctly in saying: "Adolf Hitler has become so big and Jesus Christ has become so small." Religion of this group is a mystical political belief. They accept only the idea of the Aryan God, much superior to the Christian idea of brotherly love. In post-War Germany these women and girls will face spiritual disaster since the breakdown of National Socialism means the disappearance of their pagan institutions. The women and girls of this group form a police problem because they are mostly identical with the key women in the Nazi women's organizations which will be dissolved. Special spiritual care must be taken of their children, of all the little Erdmuthe's, Utels, Gudrun's, and Sieglinde's who carry the label of their parents' paganism throughout their lives. The Truth About Hitler "Hitler clearly rejects atheism, paganism and also Christianity. He embraces the deism of Voltaire and the science of Darwin. His own metaphysical views — what few glimpses we have of them — appear to be deist with a hint of pantheism. God is a creator who set the natural world in motion and then has little more to do with it. God doesn’t do anything but he can be seen in everything." |
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A Zen National Socialist in Wartime Japan: Part II
The Formation and Principles of Count Dürckheim’s Nazi Worldview and his interpretation of Japanese Spirit and Zen A Zen National Socialist in Wartime Japan part III: Count Dürckheim and his Sources—D.T. Suzuki, Yasutani Haku’un and Eugen Herrigel |
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Initially, Savitri was very gullible in her dealings with German National-Socialists, and took as absolute fact any incredible story that they told her. For example, she repeats with great enthusiasm all sorts of reports claiming that Hitler had been seen alive in Germany after the War. Later, she became more discerning and skeptical. The purported Himmler-authorship of Stimme falls into this category. The true identity of Frithjof Fischer as the actual author is easy to establish. He also wrote Freund Hein ("Friend Hein"), a heathen mediation on death, as other works. They are all of equally high quality.
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The Nazi Master Plan
Anton Holzner (the pseudonym for SS-Sturmbannführer Albert Hartl) was a former Catholic priest who left the priesthood and the church and became an SS officer. Two of his books, Priest Power and God'a Law, present the non-Christian religious attitude often referred to as "gottgläubig". Quotation from: God's Law Providence rules over the fate of people and folks. This affirmation of a higher power should stand at the beginning of this book. Countless Germans - laymen, priests and monks – have waged the most difficult inner and outer struggles for their simple belief in a God since natural German faith has been supplanted by foreign missionaries. Millions of people struggle today for the Almighty and his laws. "God’s Law" reports of this. This account has grown from my own personal experience and the same experiences of more than a dozen friends - former Catholic priests and monks – which correspond to reality in their overall result and in their individual features. My wife, who stood at my side in building a new world, also participated in the composition of this publication. Natural faith incorporates the highest moral responsible within it. From that arose the obligation to publish this book. Anton Holzner Anton Holzner: Declassified CIA Files |
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Knut Hamsun and the Cause of Europe
"The leaders of the new movement in Germany were also aware of the essential National Socialist spirit and world view which underlay Hamsun's work, and he was much lauded, particularly by Joseph Goebbels and Alfred Rosenberg. Rosenberg paid tribute to Hamsun in his The Myth of the Twentieth Century, published in 1930, declaring that through a mysterious natural insight Knut Hamsun was able to describe the laws of the universe and of the Nordic soul like no other living artist. Growth of the Soil, he declared, was "the great present-day epic of the Nordic will in its eternal, primordial form." http://www.kkoworld.com/kitablar/knu...reketi-eng.pdf Arild Hamsun of the SS Viking Division, son of the Norwegian Nobel Prize winner Knut Hamsun. Adolf Hitler - Christian, Atheist, or Neither? |
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