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Old October 27th, 2009 #1
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When I was a kid, one of the biggest stories I heard was when the bomb plot against Hitler failed, he ordered the conspirators hung with piano wire and it
was reported 'he watched the execution many times.'

I want to know if this is true, or is it just made-up. If there is such a film, why isn't it available? I remember seeing a documentary where Walter Chronkite described this film, then, with a dramatic pause he faced the camera. 'We cannot show you this film.'

It would seem that nowadays, a copy would be available anywhere, and if they want to show Hitler as a demon, why not release it...in essence, the world's first snuff film.

Any ideas?
 
Old October 27th, 2009 #2
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When I was a kid, one of the biggest stories I heard was when the bomb plot against Hitler failed, he ordered the conspirators hung with piano wire and it
was reported 'he watched the execution many times.'

I want to know if this is true, or is it just made-up. If there is such a film, why isn't it available? I remember seeing a documentary where Walter Chronkite described this film, then, with a dramatic pause he faced the camera. 'We cannot show you this film.'

It would seem that nowadays, a copy would be available anywhere, and if they want to show Hitler as a demon, why not release it...in essence, the world's first snuff film.

Any ideas?

All I've seen is film of what appeared to be gallows, with some kind of wire hanging down. No proof, just jewsmedia propaganda. But considering the bombings of German cities and attrocities being committed against German civilians by July 1944, who the hell can blame Hitler for hanging traitors ?? Hitler was a saint compared to Stalin, Churchill, and Rosenveld. Irrefutably, truth be told.
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Old October 28th, 2009 #3
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I remember seeing a documentary where Walter Chronkite described this film, then, with a dramatic pause he faced the camera. 'We cannot show you this film.'
If this account is accurate, then Cronkite was lying by omission. He was leading the viewers to believe that he had seen the film, that CBS News possessed a copy, but that they wouldn't show it because it was too gruesome. He should have said "We cannot show you this film because we don't have it and there is no evidence it exists." There are no credible accounts of anyone having seen this film.

There is film of the TRIAL of the coup plotters, but not of their execution.



Page 872, Goebbels: Mastermind of the Third Reich, David Irving, Fpp edition:


Poisoning the already strained atmosphere, the trials of the traitors in the People’s Court ontinued all autumn. Dr Dietrich had strongly opposed allowing any newspaper coverage of them. Goebbels had overruled him.19 Hadamowsky observed the first day, when Witzleben, Hoepner, and Stieff were tried and sentenced; he praised Judge Freisler as magisterial, national socialist, and superior.20 Goebbels had commissioned a film of the trial and hangings.21 Hitler however forbade its release fearing a backlash, an ‘undesirable debate’ about the trial.22 He ordered the execution footage particularly kept under lock and key. Despite this newspapers reported that the British legation in Switzerland had shown a print to Swiss officers there. Investigations showed that it was a fake furnished by a Mr Saunders, a British secret service agent; it was evidently the origin of several post-war legends about the executions including rumours that the men were hanged from meathooks and took ten hours to die.23

Page 872, Goebbels: Mastermind of the Third Reich, David Irving, Fpp edition

Footnotes

21 The film was ‘Verräter vor dem Volksgericht.’ The first part, five acts, ran for 105 minutes;
the second, also five acts, for 105 minutes; a silent roll showing the hanging of Witzleben
et al. in four acts ran for 20–25 minutes. Their current location is unknown.
Reichsfilmintendant (Hinkel) to Naumann, Aug 31, 1944 (BA file R.55/664); and Lindenborn
to JG, Jan 17, 1945 (ZStA Potsdam, Rep.50.01, vol.831).

22 Note by Leiter F. (of Hinkel’s staff), Oct 21, 1944 (ZStA Potsdam, Rep.50.01, vol.831).—
The film shown at the Nuremberg trials, ‘Proceedings against the Criminals of Jul 20, 1944,’
was edited from unreleased Deutsche Wochenschau newsreel footage confiscated by OMGUS
at the offices of AFIFA in Tempelhof.

23 SS Sturmbannführer Ulenberg (RMVP) to Hinkel, Mar 5 (ZStA Potsdam, Rep.50.01,
vol.831). Die Nation, Feb 14, 1945 published an alleged photo of Witzleben and Hoepner
hanging.Panzermahn
 
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If the jews had such a film, they would be running it every night on the History Channel, claiming it shows Germans are uncivilized,barbaric, inhuman, etc.
 
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In any account of the 1944 coup attempt, you will read that the plotters did not receive a fair trial, that proper rules of evidence were not followed, etc.


Ironically, they will then go on to praise the Nuremberg trials, which were convened the very next year, as "a triumph of law over lawlessness".


The charges at Nuremburg were based on "ex post facto" laws, meaning that the defendants were indicted for something that was not a crime until after they had committed it. Ex post facto criminal laws are completely impermissible under the U.S. Constitution; prosecution of the Germans for non-crimes undermines the entire legitimacy of the Nuremberg proceedings.
 
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When I was a kid, one of the biggest stories I heard was when the bomb plot against Hitler failed, he ordered the conspirators hung with piano wire and it
was reported 'he watched the execution many times.'

I want to know if this is true, or is it just made-up. If there is such a film, why isn't it available? I remember seeing a documentary where Walter Chronkite described this film, then, with a dramatic pause he faced the camera. 'We cannot show you this film.'

It would seem that nowadays, a copy would be available anywhere, and if they want to show Hitler as a demon, why not release it...in essence, the world's first snuff film.

Any ideas?
The only thing we know for certain is that Hitler didn't watch the film if it indeed exists.
 
Old January 28th, 2013 #7
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When I was a kid, one of the biggest stories I heard was when the bomb plot against Hitler failed, he ordered the conspirators hung with piano wire and it
was reported 'he watched the execution many times ...
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Pictures are hung. People are hanged.

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Old January 28th, 2013 #8
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Pictures are hung. People are hanged.

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True, with one exception. Some gentlemen are hung.

And if you were hanged with wire, even if the wire does not break your neck or open a blood vessel, you would be unconscious within a few seconds and dead soon thereafter. If the carotid artery is blocked to the brain, consciousness is lost quickly and death comes soon after.

I'm guessing these videos are pure propaganda. Never forget, the victor writes the history.

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True, with one exception. Some gentlemen are hung.
Good 'un!

Yeah, I knew someone was gonna say that.

 
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Adolf the Great had other things on his mind......like the entire non-German world lining up against his model for WHITE SURVIVAL so, NO, I don`t think AH obsessed over the deaths of his enemies, UNLIKE STALIN, FDR, STINKWEED!
If you`ve got evidence to the contrary....................post it......................but this "film" does N`T exist, STRANGE THAT.
 
Old February 18th, 2019 #11
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The film was melted on an electric floor in one of the concentration camps.
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Old February 18th, 2019 #12
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None of the "conclusive, damning" evidence of Nazi "atrocities" can
be trusted. Take for example the famous recording of Himmler giving the speech to the SS men in charge of the camps:

"You have seen hundreds of dead jews, and still remain decent"
(paraphrase)

If they faked the meat hook/piano wire hanging, why not that and many more?
 
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