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Old June 15th, 2006 #1
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Angry "Ancient Europe pyramid was fake" claims ZOGettes

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So they dispute evidence that an ancient pyramid found in Bosnia was man-made. Is it because they don't want to accept there was an advanced Aryan culture? You read and decide.
 
Old June 30th, 2006 #2
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That story stunk of "Bigfoot" from the start.
 
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Looks like a plain old hill to me, no different from the ones surrounding it.

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"Hopefully we can find some organic material, you know, the bones or the wooden fragments, or charcoal. Then we can tell for sure," he said.

In recent months thousands of tourists have flooded into Visoko to peer at the Bosnian Pyramid of the Sun and its neighbors, the nearby hills christened the Pyramids of the Moon and the Dragon.

Souvenir clay pyramids photo


Local entrepreneurs have been quick to cash in on the interest, knocking out pyramid-themed souvenirs, including clocks, slippers, and T-shirts.

One pizza parlor now serves triangular pies on triangular platters. And a local hotel recently changed its name to the Bosnian Pyramid of the Sun Motel.

Supporters say the dig is a spade of positive news in the once war-torn country, which endured a brutal four-year civil conflict in the 1990s.

In an email, Bosnian Meho said he was "amazed with a finding [of] pyramids, like many others Bosnians."

"This is [the] first positive thing, and so many of us now [are] getting together [for the] first time after the war, because we [have] got something positive to talk about."

Osmanagic echoes the sentiment: "Finally we have something so positive happening in this little, tiny, ruined country of Bosnia."

Professional Outcry

While he concedes that the notion of such colossal structures in the region defies accepted history, Osmanagic is adamant that the pyramids are real.

But a pantheon of archaeologists disagrees.

Prominent Bosnian archaeologists entered the scrum early on, denouncing the dig and lobbying to shut it down.

Anthony Harding, president of the Czech Republic-based European Association of Archaeologists, has dismissed Osmanagic's ideas as "wacky" and "absurd."

Garrett Fagan, of Pennsylvania State University in University Park, has slammed the project. He says that the dig will destroy bona fide archaeological sites in the area.

He recently told the London Times newspaper: "It's as if someone were given permission to bulldoze Stonehenge to find secret chambers of lost ancient wisdom underneath."

Experts shovel some of their scorn on the media, which have been trumpeting Osmanagic's astounding announcements in recent weeks.

Many news Web sites, including the Washington Post, the Boston Globe, MSNBC, and ABC, ran a credulous Associated Press story dated April 19 that carried the headline, "Experts Find Evidence of Bosnia Pyramid."

In response, the executive editor of New York-based Archaeology magazine, Mark Rose, blasted Osmanagic as a quack and the press as gullible.

To emphasize his case, Rose quoted from online excerpts of a 2005 book by Osmanagic about the Maya.

Passages from the book suggest the Maya descended from the people of the mythical city of Atlantis, who themselves are aliens who came to Earth from the Pleiades star cluster.

Osmanagic counters that the material was misrepresented and was not his theory, but an interpretation of a Maya codex, or ancient book.

In general, the Bosnian-American dismisses Rose and other critics. Reported to have the Bosnian government's support, he plans to press on with this year's six-month excavation.

"I understand that the archaeologists would be the last ones to accept the fact that thousands of years back we did have advanced civilization in this region," he said.

Osmanagic remains confident his team will unearth sufficient proof to back that claim.

Given the level of professional skepticism, it will be a tough sell.

"Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence," said Curtis Runnels, an archaeologist at Boston University in Massachusetts and a Balkan prehistory expert.

He says the known Upper Paleolithic peoples in the region were lucky if they could build tents and fires. Monumental architecture on a scale not even seen in Egypt would be a cosmic leap forward.

"It is not up to professional archaeologists to explain 200 years of research and evidence," Runnels said. "It is up to Mr. Osmanagic to prove his claims."

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That story stunk of "Bigfoot" from the start.
I would say that it was a tad more believebale than your Jebus myth.
 
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Scientists discovered mysterious circles on the area of the ancient Russian town of Arkaim, which is the same age with Egypt and Babylon

President Putin has recently visited one of the most mysterious places on planet Earth – the ruins of the ancient town of Arkaim, which is situated on the outskirts of the city of Chelyabinsk. Historians, archaeologists and ufologists have spent many years trying to unravel the secrets of the town. Which nation was living in Arkaim more than 40 centuries ago? How did people of such ancient civilization manage to accomplish incredible technological progress, which still seems to be unachievable nowadays? A group of Russian researchers, with Vadim Chernobrovy at the head, has recently returned from the mysterious region. The scientist said that specialists and students had built numerous tent camps around Arkaim.

The Arkaim valley in the south of Ural was supposed to be flooded in 1987: local authorities were going to create a water reservoir there to irrigate droughty fields. However, scientists found strange circles in the center of the valley: the authorities gave archaeologists 12 months to explore the area. Scientists were shocked to find out that Arkaim was the same age as Egypt and Babylon, and a little older than Troy and Rome.

Gennady Zdanovich, the chairman of the archaeological expedition in Ural had to prove the scientific significance of Arkaim to regional officials. “We achieved what seemed to be absolutely unreal: the multi-million construction project in the region was shut down,” the scientist said.

Archaeological excavations showed that the people, who inhabited Arkaim, represented one of the most ancient Indo-European civilizations, particularly the branch, which is referred to as the Aryan culture. Arkaim turned out to be not only a town, but also a temple and an astronomic observatory.

”A flight above Arkaim on board a helicopter gives you an incredible impression. The huge concentric circles on the valley are clearly visible. The town and its outskirts are all enclosed in the circles. We still do not know, what point the gigantic circles have, whether they were made for defensive, scientific, educational, or ritual purposes. Some researchers say that the circles were actually used as the runway for an ancient spaceport,” Vadim Chernobrovy said.

Researchers discovered that the ancient town was equipped with the storm sewage system, which helped Arkaim's residents avoid floods. The people were protected against fires as well: timbered floorings and houses themselves were imbued with fireproof substance. It was a rather strong compound, the remnants of which can still be found in the ruins of the town.

Each house was outfitted with “all modern conveniences,” as they would say nowadays. There was a well, an oven and dome-like food storage in every house. The well was branching out into two underground trenches: one of them was directed to the oven and the other one ended in the food storage. The trenches were used to supply chilly air to the oven and to the food storage. The cool air from the trenches was also creating a very powerful traction force in the Aryan oven, which made it possible to smelt bronze there.

The central square in Arkaim was the only object of square shape in the town. Judging upon traces of bonfires that were placed in a specific order on the square, the place was used as a site for certain rituals.

Arkaim was built according to a previously projected plan as a single complicated complex, which also had an acute orientation on astronomic objects. While archaeologists are meticulously brushing dust off ancient stones trying to recreate the lifestyle of Arkaim's residents, ufologists study mysterious phenomena, which they register in the town: inexplicable fluctuations of voltage, magnetic field tension, temperatures and so on.

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The Jew and self-hating `white` just hates the idea of ancient Aryan civilisation.
They prefer to think that the negro who never mastered the art of lighting a fire is responsible for all these technological marvels.
 
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The re-writing of history according to the jew vigorously opposes all evidence that shows existence of ancient civilizations. Archeological digs are shut down and pursuit of knowledge is written off as "one of those whacked weirdohs". Seeing as how the jews themselves claim to be the originator of all mankind and date the beginnings of such somewhere around 4000 BCE ( I think the jew year is 5766 and not 2006 ), anything proven to be in existence prior to this would start a major unraveling of their weavings of lies and deceit. A rather interesting side note is that the jews themselves state that judaism began with Abraham and his covenant with g_d. They further state that judaism was the first monotheistic religion from which other later-appearing monotheistic religions such as christianity and islam are derived.
I believe they found a pyramid in Bosnia, and the re-writers of true history (the jews) are shutting it down and debunking it to the realms of "nutjobs".

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Well, wouldn't it be reasonable to find other artifacts around the area to sustain the idea of an ancient Aryan culture?
 
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Well, wouldn't it be reasonable to find other artifacts around the area to sustain the idea of an ancient Aryan culture?
It's not so much finding artifacts/evidence. It is "legitimizing" the finds. The artifacts/evidence always gets debunked as the findings of nutjobs waiting for the next comet to transport them back to Arcturus.

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For example, take the ancient city of Catal Huyuk on the plateau of Anatolia, now present day Turkey. The site was basically a mound of earth in the middle of wheat fields. Initial excavations began somewhere around 1961 to 1965. Twelve successive layers were excavated, the top most recent layer being dated at 5600 BCE. The lowest older layer being dated at 6500 BCE. No one knows at this time how many layers of this city are yet to be found. What has been excavated so far shows a city of shrines, temples, trade, artisans, and wealth. The site has basically been turned into a tourist attraction. Further excavations have been basically for show. No new discoveries or attempts to determine just how old this city is. Just the same old same old data from 40 years ago.

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English 'Experts' have a habit of often being wrong.

English history expert Trevor-Roper's first pronouncement of the faked Hitler Diaries as 'genuine' may turn out as misplaced as the Exeter University expert claiming that the pyramid has no archaeological significance.

Osmanagic ought to keep digging to uncover more of the 'slabs', blocks, tunnels that he has noted - if the evidence is there, the truth will come out.
 
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Aren't pyramids usually built on flat plains, where they stand out? What would be the point of putting one in among a bunch of hills, where it looks like all the other hills?

Where's the photos of the stone blocks and passageways?That would be some evidence.

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"Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence," said Curtis Runnels, an archaeologist at Boston University in Massachusetts and a Balkan prehistory expert....

It doesn't matter how many eye witnesses report they see a pyramid, "eye witnesses" aren't proof, especially when the eye witnesses expect to get money or positive attention from their stories.
 
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English 'Experts' have a habit of often being wrong.

English history expert Trevor-Roper's first pronouncement of the faked Hitler Diaries as 'genuine' may turn out as misplaced as the Exeter University expert claiming that the pyramid has no archaeological significance.

Osmanagic ought to keep digging to uncover more of the 'slabs', blocks, tunnels that he has noted - if the evidence is there, the truth will come out.
The problem being that he can't keep excavating the site without permission. And he cannot publish his findings without permission. He can only publisize his "theories". Which get debunked. By the so-called "experts". If the "experts" determine that he has no grounds for his theories, he is through. And the experts are vehemenently denying any grounds for his theories. While at the same time, the experts have not proven that what he has found in the way of tunnels, etc. is untrue. In fact, the "experts" are not saying anything about his findings other than writing the blocks, etc. off. He has found what he said he found, and the experts are saying that what he found is "poppycock". The "experts" always hustle these findings into the realms of "poppycock theories" when in truth they are not. Do you know that the astronomical significance of the great pyramids is still considered to be "poppycock" by the "experts"?
 
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Aren't pyramids usually built on flat plains, where they stand out? What would be the point of putting one in among a bunch of hills, where it looks like all the other hills?

Where's the photos of the stone blocks and passageways?That would be some evidence.

Good Motto for Holocaust Revisionists:

"Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence," said Curtis Runnels, an archaeologist at Boston University in Massachusetts and a Balkan prehistory expert....

It doesn't matter how many eye witnesses report they see a pyramid, "eye witnesses" aren't proof, especially when the eye witnesses expect to get money or positive attention from their stories.
Actually, pyramids have been found all over the world including the jungles of central and south America. And did you know that the Sahara Desert region was not always a desert? At one time, some 8000 years or so ago, or 6000 BCE, the Sahara was fertile and produced many crops. I am not speaking here of the Nile River Valley. I am speaking of the Sahara Desert. And I am speaking of archeological and geological findings.
 
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Right, there are stone pyramids in different places and also "earth mounds" such as the Indians built in the the United States. I find it hard to believe a stone pyramid in Europe would have escaped the notice of earlier generations. Historians have been running around looking for stuff like this and writing studies of ancient monuments for hundreds of years. There's no reason for experts to "cover up" some ancient monument built by an unknown group.
 
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Geologists, not archeologists, should examine the hill. If the strata of rocks and soil match that of the surrounding terrain then it is no more than just another hill....one with four weathered faces that somewhat resemble a pyramid.

Geological data is probably already available.
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From what I am understanding, Bosnia is letting him pursue finding more evidence to substantiate his claims. Osmanagic intends to utilize aerial and satellite imagery along with underground radar studies over the next six months to prove his theories.
 
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Right, there are stone pyramids in different places and also "earth mounds" such as the Indians built in the the United States. I find it hard to believe a stone pyramid in Europe would have escaped the notice of earlier generations. Historians have been running around looking for stuff like this and writing studies of ancient monuments for hundreds of years. There's no reason for experts to "cover up" some ancient monument built by an unknown group.

It`s all beyond you isn`t it Hoffmann?
The Jew,acting according to type has over the last 60 odd years embarked upon a deliberate and sustained campaign of robbing Aryan man of his heritage, a very ancient and noble heritage which can be traced back to Atlantis.
He relies upon white fools to enact his plan under the guise of `acadaemia`.
Indeed we have been so robbed of our heritage that we are too frightened or `ashamed` to refer to ourselves by our true and original name- ARYAN.
 
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It`s all beyond you isn`t it Hoffmann?
The Jew,acting according to type has over the last 60 odd years embarked upon a deliberate and sustained campaign of robbing Aryan man of his heritage, a very ancient and noble heritage which can be traced back to Atlantis.
He relies upon white fools to enact his plan under the guise of `acadaemia`.
Indeed we have been so robbed of our heritage that we are too frightened or `ashamed` to refer to ourselves by our true and original name- ARYAN.
Atlantis, I have previously explained, is part of the "black history" fed to the gullible public by intelligence agencies and their agents working for the One World Government. Pyramid-mania robs you of your true heritage - the magnificent cathedrals and Christian heritage of Europe - and makes you turn to darkie realms of dancing about with feathers. "Atlantis" is part of the Rainbow Multicult Shrangri-la, that never existed and never will, get that through your thick head, or should I say feather-brained?

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Atlantis, I have previously explained, is part of the "black history" fed to the gullible public by intelligence agencies and their agents working for the One World Government. Pyramid-mania robs you of your true heritage - the magnificent cathedrals and Christian heritage of Europe - and makes you turn to darkie realms of dancing about with feathers. "Atlantis" is part of the Rainbow Multicult Shrangri-la, that never existed and never will, get that through your thick head, or should I say feather-brained?

Here we have the crux of the matter:anything which predates Christianity as a viable Aryan culture and civilisation you mock and minimise.Behaviour which is also typical of the Jew.
The heritage of Aryan man,his true non-Jewish heritage does not consist of eccesiastical architecture but the dolmens,menhirs,stone circles,hill forts,temples,astronomical observatories and pyramids of the pre-Christian European Bronze and Iron Ages.
Long before your spiritual ancestors emerged from the Sinai desert my ancestors were constructing Stonehenge and other such sites in Europe.
For your information Hoffmannstein, Atlantis was first referred to by the ancient Greek philosopher Plato in the 4th century CE.
What has this to do with `Black History Month`?
 
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