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Old September 4th, 2005 #61
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OK, last post on this. The data below is likely to fly over prozak's head, so I'm posting it for others. The genetic study cited shows Poles to be among the most homogenous and European people in Europe.


Part 12: GENETIC HOMOGENEITY IN POLAND

The relative homogeneity and lack of outside or non-European influence in Poland has been confirmed by genetic research.

1: Hum Genet. 2002 Jun;110(6):592-600. Epub 2002 May 2

Homogeneity and distinctiveness of Polish paternal lineages revealed by Y chromosome microsatellite haplotype analysis.

Ploski R, Wozniak M, Pawlowski R, Monies DM, Branicki W, Kupiec T, Kloosterman A, Dobosz T, Bosch E,
Nowak M, Lessig R, Jobling MA, Roewer L, Kayser M.
Human Molecular Genetics Lab, Department of Forensic Medicine, Warsaw Medical Academy, Poland..


Different regional populations from Poland were studied in order to assess the genetic heterogeneity within Poland, investigate the genetic relationships with other European populations and provide a population-specific reference database for anthropological and forensic studies. Nine Y-chromosomal microsatellites were analysed in a total of 919 unrelated males from six regions of Poland and in 1,273 male individuals from nine other European populations. AMOVA revealed that all of the molecular variation in the Polish dataset is due to variation within populations, and no variation was detected among populations of different regions of Poland. However, in the non-Polish European dataset 9.3% ( P<0.0001) of the total variation was due to differences among populations. Consequently, differences in R(ST)-values between all possible pairs of Polish populations were not statistically significant, whereas significant differences were observed in nearly all comparisons of Polish and non-Polish European populations. Phylogenetic analyses demonstrated tight clustering of Polish populations separated from non-Polish groups. Population clustering based on Y-STR haplotypes generally correlates well with the geography and history of the region. Thus, our data are consistent with the assumption of homogeneity of present-day paternal lineages within Poland and their distinctiveness from other parts of Europe, at least in respect to their Y-STR haplotypes. Electronic supplementary material to this paper can be obtained by using the Springer LINK server located at http://dx.doi.org/10.1007/s00439-002-0728-0.

PMID: 12107446 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]



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Population samples from Germany and Russia also showed similarities to Polish populations, with relatively small RST-values on pairwise comparisons (0.0176-0.097). It is noteworthy that all but one of the comparisons between the six Polish populations and the Russians revealed statistically non-significant differences (0.05 0.001). These genetic similarities are most probably a result of the common Slavic origin. On the other hand, small genetic distances between all of the Polish-German population pairs were statistically significant (P<0.0001), which might reflect the different background of Slavic-speaking and German-speaking populations. The significant differences revealed between Polish and German samples are especially striking, since the two populations have had close contact during the last millennium and both have inhabited the territory of present-day Poland. This demonstrates a continuous lack of admixture between Germans and Poles, most probably for social, religious and cultural reasons. Genetic difference between Germans and Poles have been reported previously, based on a 1-bp deletion at the Y-chromosomal marker M17 (haplotype Eu19; Semino et al. 2000), which has a high frequency in Poles (56%) but a much lower frequency in Germans (6%). However, other studies, using the Y-SNP marker SRY-1532b (synonym SRY 10831b, haplogroup 3), which characterises basically the same Y chromosome lineage (Tyler-Smith 1999; Wheale et al. 2001; The Y Chromosome Consortium 2002), have found a much higher frequency of ~30% in larger samples from Germany (M. Kayser, unpublished data; Rosser et al. 2000; Zerjal et al. 1999), which is still only about half the frequency in Poland.


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Old September 5th, 2005 #62
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prozak is no wasp supremacist, but a hindoo-looking turd. Original Dissent had a moron like that.
 
Old September 5th, 2005 #63
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In fact it is identical to the equally nonsensical theory that Germans were mixed with Hunnic blood. In both cases proponents of these theories demonstrate a total lack of understanding as to the nature of Hunnic or Tatar domination. People that actually LIVED in close proximity to Slavic areas knew better.
For the record I was not inferring that Germans were mixed with Huns. I was using his baseless assertions against Slavs against him and pointing out that by his logic Germans are also tainted Aryans. Tartars were interested in gold and tribute not in administering to an empire. They did not have an empire in the Roman sense of the word.

My father's family came from Prussia. Their name is a German surname but the origin of the name comes from the Slavic word meaning "ridge". So Germans and Slavs have obviously intermingled. Prozak is a troll who is trying to stir up these internecine rivalries. He makes things up as he goes along. You’re right we should be able to see a picture of this Aryan superman. I bet you could fit a roll of nickels up his nose.
 
Old September 6th, 2005 #64
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For the record I was not inferring that Germans were mixed with Huns. I was using his baseless assertions against Slavs against him and pointing out that by his logic Germans are also tainted Aryans. Tartars were interested in gold and tribute not in administering to an empire. They did not have an empire in the Roman sense of the word.

My father's family came from Prussia. Their name is a German surname but the origin of the name comes from the Slavic word meaning "ridge". So Germans and Slavs have obviously intermingled. Prozak is a troll who is trying to stir up these internecine rivalries. He makes things up as he goes along. You’re right we should be able to see a picture of this Aryan superman. I bet you could fit a roll of nickels up his nose.
Oh don't worry, I never put any belief in the Hunnic Germans theory at all. That is because the Huns, like the latter Tatars, were another group of nomads. They did not settle the territories under their control, but rather they exacted tribute. This allowed them to aquire provisions as needed when their army was in the area.

The biggest irony of all this is that in many ways, Germany as a nation was carried by Prussia, and Prussians were known to point this out to the "lesser" Germans. So assuming this Prozak fellow were even German(and he's probably not) he might find that were he transported to say , 1913, the Prussians might consider him "inferior".
 
Old September 29th, 2005 #65
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The ones that aren't Slavic, surely - plenty of Germanic and Baltic blood in Poland.

However, those are only one caste of Poles. Many of the rest are the kind of untermensch who are now clogging western europe with their blockhead bodies.
so how many times have you been to Poland YOU STUPID TWAT??
That girl is a SLAV It is a known fact that the Slavs of today are some of the most pure of Aryan Tribes

And what the fuck would you know about Western Europe you wont even leave your Moms trailer in Kansas
 
Old September 29th, 2005 #66
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"Here's a nice unmixed Russian girl:"

Calling her unmixed is obvious sarcasm.
No No No Prozak is realy that fucking stupid
his mom has to remind him every day how to find the mail boxs at the trailer court where they live
And he is a sodomite...or would be if he wasent pushing 400lbs.just take a look at his homepage And how do i know all this because his old homepage
had one of those do-it-yourself website things MAN was it fucked up
all kinds of cut and paste and BuFu poems porno links and photos of him and that shithole of a trailer
 
Old September 29th, 2005 #67
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Here's a nice unmixed Russian girl:



I'm not sure what I'm doing is Slavic-bashing; it's recognition of reality, although I understand that offends some. But they need to grow up.

You're insane Prozak. "Unmixed Russian girl" my ass. That's some sort of mixed Asian broad. Here are some real Russian girls:







This chick's from Kazakhstan:


 
Old September 29th, 2005 #68
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Prozak, you're fucking clowning around. You show your face before you go calling all these girls names how bout that? You have posted a bunch of pictures of girls, some cuter than others, some with a little more Asiatic in the gene pool than others, and it doesnt prove a fucking hill of beans. Probably you're encouraging these guys to go to Russia to find a wife like more than one of my friends has done and they are all quite happy thank you.

Like I said, you're throwing stones and who knows what kind of glass house you may be in. Or, if you're Johnny Nordic, that's great too. We're waiting!
Well said. Europeans have a continuum of features and hues - my hunch is that the young lady in question has DNA that groups very nicely into what would be considered white. Maybe Mr Prozak would grace this thread with his Dravidian likeness... we are all very curious, Vijay.
 
Old October 2nd, 2005 #69
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I hate to break it to you, but the "established" position that "race" exists has been disproven by most scientists as well.

Sorry, that's "disproven."

At some time, one must take all of the data into account, and stop viewing it selectively, as you are.
Even if "race" did exist, it would still be meaningless.
 
Old October 3rd, 2005 #70
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Excellent specimen! You sure made a mockery out of hindu turd, prozak.
 
Old October 3rd, 2005 #71
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Excellent specimen! You sure made a mockery out of hindu turd, prozak.

Would you like to see some similar looking Germans?
 
Old October 19th, 2005 #72
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Ah yes, the same folkish equality-guru Prozak who was sharing African bongo drum music on his Neoclassical music hub. Hey you thought some of your sharers forgot that? Your insults against Slavs, Irish, and Italians are not welcome here. Those white ethnic groups all made their own respective contributions to America.

So sorry if an Irish or Italian NS wants to show us support, because hes not allowed. A Turkish or Zulu nazi, however, is more than appreciated according to Prozak.

This whole persona that you display at appeasing to the kosher conservative mentality of "oh no we're not racist, see I have nonwhite friends and associates, etc" is pathetic. It is almost on the verge of social marxism and an egalitarian brotherhood of racists from across the globe. You overly represent nonwhite racial consciousness and self-determination in order to prove to some non-existent audience that you aren't a bigot like the rest of us. You are pathetic, sir, as well as a fraud, please go away.

You are a reactionary of the worst kind, on the verge of a goyish 'faleo-conservative,' and even worse you promote division among whites.
 
Old December 30th, 2006 #73
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This is why I'm not a Pan-Aryanist: breeding Poles with Germans makes no sense at all.

Slavs are our misfortune here in America, along with other dubious ethnic groups including Italians and Irish.
fOOL.

What is it with the Anti-Irish remarks on what i thought was a National Socialist forum? We assisted Adolf Hitler while Stalin-fetishist Churchill assisted in his destruction.
But please explain to me why WE are not fit to breed...i'm sure you can back up your claims ??
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Old January 1st, 2007 #74
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Well this might not work well with the site issues. I think Prozak is just on a different planet, I'm Slav white, light brn hair hazel green eyes. I can say with no doubt if I put 10 mixed photo's of White woman he would never pull the slaves from aryan, not a true German race as per name but Nordic, germanic, Prussian, Saxon, not mixed? Germany had nomadic tribes and they mixed, so to say Slaves are not white is BS, if you really think there are enough 100% pure German by your deffinition well it will be a short attempt to make Europe white never mind the rest of the "white" world.
My grandfather fought with Germany so I take offence to your neanderthal thoughts.
I will work on a montage of white woman you tell me what they are ok?

You can have your opinion but you better get a DNA check if you plan on having children, might not be what you thought.
Slovjanski brother it seems we are mongrels, I have 1000's of Slavic woman's photo's on cd I'm more then sure he can't get it right, oh ya I will put a "German girl or two in as well.
I am new as you will see but from FS88 and my bro's there know I'm in this a long time, for 3 years I have a ns unit here and can be found at FS88 with the same name. I will have a Waffen-SS under my avatar.
Well enough said I'm pissed as I see you are, but in any case we see that if the race is to survive narrow minded silly thinking must stop, if not your breeding into extinction.
Prozak I mean no offence to you, you insulted my heritage so I will defend it. I don't your's so if we are going to win this battle we all must stand, if not your not the solution but the problem, and oh yes I'm a Nazi!
 
Old January 2nd, 2007 #75
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Well, perhaps there is this much confusion over mongoloid admixture into white caucasion gene pools, due to the unintention of those who fail to realize the large admixture of dark haired caucasion Iranian's into the mix. Or if you are really curious, you can check out the hotornot website and look at the girls that come from a variety of backgrounds in Eastern Europe. I will admit, more than one girl looked pretty mongoloid in the pics, but then this is more than likely stemming from the racial atrocities commited by the Stalinist monsters during his evil reign than anything willfully administered by the Ukrainian people.
 
Old January 24th, 2007 #76
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I am from Europe and i greet you all I do not understand how someone could try to put opinion about Slavs that they are not white and that sounds like pan Germanism . for me that is not issue but who has more blondism in their etnicitis I think that Slavs are more depigmented then Germans my but I am not shore about it and if you want to get picture about averige population in state individual pictures are not realizable but pictures of teams or crowds I traveled around central Europe and find that picks from racial reality are very good for it
 
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my link to you http://racialreality.sitesled.com/footballers.html
 
Old February 24th, 2007 #78
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Thanks for that link.

WOW!!! Those Czechs look pretty damn Swedish
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Once again Prozak, you have no fucking clue what you are talking about. Those are average looking Poles, and could easily pass as Russians, Czechs, or any other major group of Slavs. Funny how those great Nordic Austrians and Germans needed Poland to save their ass at the Battle of Vienna. Good thing the Poles at that time had the best cavalry and most efficient musketeers in Europe at that time. How ironic that hundreds of years after having their ass saved by Poland, the Germans actually INVITE millions of Turks into their country. Must be their highly advanced Nordic brains.

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J.P. are you sure it was "Germans", or, was it in fact the victorious 1945 Zionist invaders who are responsible for this?

I am of the opinion, nothing is done in Germany unless it is O.K.'d by the wealthy Jew Oligarchs and Tel Aviv.
 
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J.P. are you sure it was "Germans", or, was it in fact the victorious 1945 Zionist invaders who are responsible for this?
Germany was invaded by Zionists? I didn't hear about that.

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I am of the opinion, nothing is done in Germany unless it is O.K.'d by the wealthy Jew Oligarchs and Tel Aviv.
I don't believe that is how the German system works. See, a state exists so that a certain class can maintain an exploitive relationship. In the capitalist era it exists to secure the capitalist system, which means a small group of people profitting of the exploitation of labor. The cheaper the labor, the more profit they make. Hence the immigration and outsourcing.
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