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Did you drink too much? Or are you suffering from those hallucinations related to your mental illness again? Your having (for obvious reasons, see my post # 839 under http://206.41.117.128/showpost.php?p...&postcount=839 ) restricted my publication choices to Shermer's SKEPTIC magazine doesn’t make Shermer my "partner". I don’t intend to contact him before I am in possession of evidence meeting the NAFCASH challenge requirements, and I don’t see why the fuck I should. And even if Shermer were my "partner", I still wouldn’t be stinking Gerdes' messenger. Whatever stinking Gerdes wants to know from Shermer he should ask Shermer himself. Got that, asshole? But as you again brought up the subject of one of your most amusing obsessions, how about finally doing what I have often asked you to do and you never had the courage to do? Give me number of the page or pages of Denying History on which Shermer supposedly claimed to have conducted the specific investigations of Sobibor and Treblinka that you keep making a fuss about. What page or pages, Mr. Gerdes? Ah, and before I forget it: you will now make good for your cowardly behavior, discussed in post # 839 under http://206.41.117.128/showpost.php?p...&postcount=839 , by restoring the SKEPTIC or ARCHAEOLOGY magazine publication choice on the NAFCASH site, right? If you should already have done so, thank you and please disregard this notice. |
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My, I think that was the most hysterical outburst I've seen yet from Retardo. Pure, unadulterated hysteria. So, we're still waiting for Roberta to:
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jew-lie-t Golden, Archaeology magazine and holocaust controversies on the issue of Chelmno. Just one grave - just one percent. Do you accept the challenge Cowards? No reward money for you to get all hysterical about. Just for you so you can help stop holocaust denial. What are you, a bunch of homosexual cowards - or what? And as far as the challenge that you did accept, we're still waiting for you to tell us the dates that your THE FINAL SOLUTION FORENSIC CHALLENGE partner was physically in Sobibor and Treblinka. We also want to know the same about your other partner, Kola. As per the laughable core samples you're trying to pass off as human remains: Quote:
Did I ever tell you you were priceless? Roberta: "Ah, and before I forget it: you will now make good by restoring the SKEPTIC or ARCHAEOLOGY magazine publication choice on the NAFCASH site, right?" Looks like Roberta is getting cold feet! Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! What are you worried about Roberta? Shermer himself visited Sobibor and did a "firsthand investigation" of the camp. Between you and your new partners Shermer and Kola, hell, I expect that issue of "SKEPTIC" magazine to be in my mailbox by the end of the summer. Besides Roberta, like you said, I'm sure that Shermer has a sense of humor and will just chuckle at you calling him a faggot and fraud. After all, I'm sure that's what he thinks about you also! LOL!!! |
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As to my fellow HC members and Mrs. Golden (who I don’t know), ask them directly. I’m not stinking Gerdes’ messenger. Quote:
Are you man enough to word your Chelmno challenge in these terms, Mr. Gerdes? If you want, we can also extend these terms to Belzec, Sobibor and Treblinka. No money reward required, but instead we have the undertaking of Greg Gerdes that, if shown (by publication in SKEPTIC magazine as concerns Sobibor and Treblinka and by publication in ARCHAEOLOGY magazine as concerns Belzec, or by publication in any of these two magazines for either of the three camps – it’s up to you) an archaological assessment of physical evidence that objectively proves the "exact" location and "exact" dimensions of at least one mass grave at Belzec, Sobibor or Treblinka and that this mass grave contains human remains corresponding to at least 1 % of the respective camp’s victims according to the Encyclopedia of the Holocaust, he will expressly acknowledge in writing that the mass murder at the respective camp, which becomes apparent from all hitherto known documentary, eyewitness and physical evidence, is a proven fact and that he was dead wrong in doubting this proven fact. Your express written acknowledgement that you are full of shit and your "Revisionist" articles of faith are worth nothing, and not any amount of money, would be the applicant’s reward. I’m waiting for you to word a challenge in these terms, Gerdes. Quote:
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It helps my case by clearly showing that Gerdes is getting cold feet, that he is a miserable coward and that he is scared shitless of proof meeting his challenge requirements. And his hysterical nervous laughter is only further corroboration of all that. It’s up to you whether you want to keep behaving like chicken-shit or not, Mr. Gerdes. I win either way. Quote:
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But thanks for one more showing your compulsive tendency to lie by misrepresenting your opponent’s words, Mr. Gerdes. And I thank you even more for persisting in your obvious attempt to hinder my access to the one magazine you have left as an applicant’s choice for publication. That’s another demonstration of your cowardice and the fear you have of proof meeting your challenge requirements actually showing up. And that fear, in turn, shows how conscious you are that your "skepticism" has no basis whatsoever and your "Revisionist" articles of faith are worthless. Quote:
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The German dead, those of Dresden, those of Berlin, those of all over Germany cannot speak. Yet, we Aryan Germans do not invent lies and scream holocaust. We bear our loss like men and women of substance. The cesspool that is called "Germany" of today is more than enough reason to hate jews. To want them dead. To desire to give them their much vaunted and seemingly longed for holocaust. Tell your jews, priest, that they do not have much longer to wait before they get it; and, that it will be a holocaust which they will have sparked by their own stupid aggression. Juden never know when they have crossed the boundary and have become insanely suicidal. Quote:
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Notice Roberta's frantic attempts to change things again now that things have been boilded down to just the basics, to the point that even a retard can understand and follow them, she wants to try and change things again.
No Roberta, THE FINAL SOLUTION FORENSIC CHALLENGE is what it is. Just Treblinka and Sobibor. And no amount of your famous childish temper tantrums will change it. The only other major change will be - IF, like I said earlier: Quote:
"Speaking for myself (the others you must ask directly, see above), I accept" So get your team together Roberta. When you have jew-lie Golden and Archaeology magazine and all your fellow funnyboys at HC online, make a publich challenge to nafcash. We're waiting Retardo. Are you women enough to get this team together? Now, here's what we're waiting for retardo to do: Tell us on what dates his partner shermer was physically in the Sobibor and Treblinka camps. Show us photographs that prove he was in said camps on said dates. Tell us on what dates his other partner Kola was physically in the Sobibor camp. Show us photographs that prove he was in said camp on said dates. Show us photographs of Kola excavating the alleged graves. Show us photographs proving that said graves actually exist. Tell us what the results were of the analysis of those soil core samples was. Show us proof that the "huge ash mountain" of Sobibor is actually comprised of human ash. Show us were the huge pit is that this "mountain of human ash" was dug out of. And last - but certainly not least, we're waiting for Roberta to publish, in "SKEPTIC" magazine, proof that there exists just one mass grave that contains just one percent of the alleged mass murder at Sobibor and Treblinka. What are you waiting for Roberta? How long are you going to run away from these questions Roberta? |
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Just what do you know about what a scientist or historian would accept as proof?
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I’d say his pretense that reducing an applicant’s chances to qualify for the reward was "boiling down to just the basics" is the bigger of this chicken-shit liar’s lies. Quote:
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The "Archaeology magazine/Chelmno" challenge was your idea and is yours to launch, Mr. Gerdes. And if you want a team of certain people to respond to that challenge, you should address each prospective member of that team, for I represent no one but myself and am also not stinking Gerdes’ messenger. My fellow HC members you should address by posting a comment below the article Update on Gerdes & NAFCASH under http://holocaustcontroversies.blogsp...s-nafcash.html (as I suggested you do in another context and you were too cowardly to do, remember?). Mrs. Golden you must find another way to address, your problem. And if it is to be a challenge worth the name, you must state what the winning applicant gets in return for meeting your challenge requirements. It need not be money, but at the very least it should be an express acknowledgement in writing by Greg Gerdes that the murder of at least 150,000 people by the Nazis at Chelmno (or make it the Polish estimate of 320,000 according to the Encyclopedia of the Holocaust, if you prefer) is a proven fact and the "doubts" he expressed about the mass murder that becomes apparent from the known documentary evidence, eyewitness and physical evidence have no basis whatsoever. Quote:
For the purpose of historically proving the mass murder at Sobibor and Treblinka (which is historically proven already anyway), they have no relevance whatsoever. The only thing they could be relevant for is the NAFCASH challenge. To the extent that meeting your above demands is part of a) "proving" the "exact" location of a Sobibor or Treblinka mass grave, its "exact" dimensions and that the mass grave contains human remains corresponding to at least 1 % of the victims of each camp, and thus qualifying for the NAFCASH main reward, and b) if the mass grave mentioned under a) is a Sobibor mass grave, "proving" that the mound of ash at the Sobibor memorial is actually comprised of human ash and thus also qualifying for the NAFCASH bonus reward, the place where the respective information must be provided is an article that must be published by the only publisher you now accept, after again displaying your cowardice by scratching ARCHAEOLOGY magazine from an applicant’s already limited publishing options, i.e. SKEPTIC magazine. (If, of course, you want to replace publication in SKEPTIC magazine by publication on this forum, I shall do my best to address your above demands – to the extent that this is relevant for meeting the conditions of the NAFCASH challenge – on this very thread. That’s a major change of the NAFCASH site I wouldn’t hold against you.) And to the extent that meeting your above demands has nothing to do with the NAFCASH challenge, you can print them out, roll them up and stick them you-know-where. Quote:
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Second, I may not yet have access to evidence meeting the requirements of Gerdes’ challenge, but this doesn’t mean it cannot be provided. Just give it some time. Quote:
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What you call the "is simply a fact standard" is a rule of evidence that has an old Anglo-Saxon tradition, and if it is applied today regarding the events you deny that’s because these events have been proven beyond a reasonable doubt by documentary, eyewitness and physical evidence assessed by criminal investigators and historians over the past six decades. As to "digs", they have taken place and are currently taking place. Not because they are required to prove what has been proven already, but because their results are expected to enhance historical knowledge. And enhancement of knowledge is always an undertaking that merits approval, don’t you think so? |
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I lost relatives in the carpet bombing of Dresden - I want my reparations. I want Germany back, in fact. The juden got israel; I want my own Nation returned to me; not the cesspool the Occupied Government of Germany has turned my Fatherland into. You are just another self-loathing German, more jew than a jew, so many of you around. You are a kike's wet dream. Quote:
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These so-called historians, and those of your ilk, accept a jew lie - the biggest lie the jews have ever told, with possible exception to the one that their desert god found them and made them "chosen". When, in fact, they stole a god and a goddess from the ancient Egyptians and it was really the other way around. As with their religion; which holocaustianity has become part of; and also which Christianity has accepted on faith, the jew crows whilst the world eats up their crap Lie and pronounces it a tasty jewish "manna" from heaven. Quote:
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With exception to kangaroo court trials such as the Nurnberg Trials, intentional evidence is very specific and eyewitness testimony is considered unreliable and conviction cannot be based solely upon eyewitness testimony. "Intentional Evidence" is commmonly used in cases concerning monetary fraud, which is a crime but certainly not a "holocaust" of epic jewish proportion. Especially since most accused of monetary fraud, wherein intentional evidence is used are jews themselves. Not even common law suggests that eyewitness evidence is to be relied upon as the sole source of evidence. Last edited by EireannGoddess; July 28th, 2008 at 11:44 AM. |
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What do the words "new challenge - independent of" mean to you stupid? All that work Roberta, and you only made yourself look stupid (again.) How many times have I told you to think before you post Roberta? BTW Roberta, have I ever told you that you're priceless? Thank you Roberta. |
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Now, let’s remind everyone what the mentally ill jewbitch wrote earlier:
Quote: Originally Posted by Gerdes She hasn't been able to even prove that the "huge mass grave" of Sobibor exists; Roberta: “Actually I’m able to prove the existence of all of these mass graves by simply referring to Prof. Kola’s description.” Yes Roberta, could you tell us again what Kola “described” finding in the “huge mass graves” of Sobibor? Roberta: “Proof is contained in Prof. Kola’s published report about his findings on site, and in the documentary and eyewitness evidence about the mass killings at Sobibor, which is compatible with Kola’s findings.” And what were Kola’s findings again Roberta? And where can we find this published report? Roberta: “This proof is and has been accepted by historians and criminal investigators, Gerdes. So unless you can show relevant rules or standards of evidence that these people did not comply with or strong indications of evidence manipulation, it is proof for the purpose of our discussion as well (and may even be considered proof for the purpose of meeting your "challenge" by a court of law, so better be more specific about what kind of proof you want – that’s well meaning advice)... Because Prof. Kola said so and there’s no reason to doubt the statements of this renowned archeologist, especially as they are also in line with what all other known evidence tells us about Sobibor… And the reason to doubt the archeologist’s public statement that would support this "allegedly" is?” And what did Kola say again Roberta? BTW Roberta, why do you keep running from this queation about the core samples of Sobibor: What do the frauds at the Sobibor Archaeology Project say it is? They’re the ones who analysed the core samples – right? They DID analyse the core samples – didn't they Roberta? Thank you Roberta. Priceless. |
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"Proof is contained in Prof. Kola’s published report about his findings on site" And "Kola’s report has not been published (apparently because he had some problems with the Polish government entity that had commissioned his work)" Oooops, Roberta cought in yet another lie. Who / what is this Polish government entity that commissioned his "work" Roberta? |
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Now, here's what we're waiting for retardo to do:
Tell us on what dates his partner shermer was physically in the Sobibor camp. Show us photographs that prove he was in said camps on said dates. Tell us on what dates his other partner Kola was physically in the Sobibor camp. Show us photographs that prove he was in said camp on said dates. Show us photographs of Kola excavating the alleged graves. Show us photographs proving that said graves actually exist. Tell us what Polish government entity that commissioned Kola's "work." Tell us what the results were of the analysis of those soil core samples that she claims are: "ashes of human bone and tissue for the light gray stuff, wood ashes for the black stuff and pure bone ashes or lime for the white stuff." Show us proof that the "huge ash mountain" of Sobibor is actually comprised of human ash. Show us were the huge pit is that this "mountain of human ash" was dug out of. And last - but certainly not least, we're waiting for Roberta to publish, in "SKEPTIC" magazine, proof that there exists just one mass grave that contains just one percent of the alleged mass murder at Sobibor and Treblinka. Just one camp - just one mass grave - just one percent. Just one Roberta. One. What are you waiting for Roberta? (After all, you do want to put an end to holocaust denial - don't you?) |
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"These digs that have taken place, are they the ones where no photos have been produced for seven years?" Oh but there are Ced. There are two organizations that are part of Roberta's team that have websites up with photos and everything. If anyone wants to see the photos of the "huge mass graves" of Sobibor, check out The Sobibor Archaeology Project here: http://undersobibor.org/ And the "Friends of Sobibor Remembrance" association here: http://www.sobibor.edu.pl/angielska/indexa.htm Mmmmmm, that's odd, there doesn't seem to be any photos of said "huge mass graves!" Must just be a slight oversight that will be corrected any day now I'm sure. Maybe Retardo can point out the photos of the "huge mass graves?" Retardo???? Here's another question - If you were Andrzej Kola or Yoram Haimi, and the "huge mass graves" allegedly found at Sobibor are not a hoax, just how long would it take you to send off to "SKEPTIC" magazine all the proof in the world needed to become an applicant for THE FINAL SOLUTION FORENSIC CHALLENGE reward? And what about Shammer? What the hell is he waiting for? And notice greasy jew Haimi's begging for money! LOL!!! If he needed money so bad, and the "huge mass graves" actually exist, then what is he waiting for? Is there anyone who could lay claim to THE FINAL SOLUTION FORENSIC CHALLENGE faster than that greasy jew? And what are you waiting for Roberta? Would you ask you partner Haimi to put up some photos of the "huge mass graves" on The Sobibor Archaeology Projects webpage? |
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