#1 EDL/English Defence League thread (non-promotional)

[Barbie C.]

Originally Posted by Gerry Fable

If proof was needed that an agenda is at play this it. The Zionists are praying that the Luton demo' kicks off an intifada: Muslims versus crusaders in our towns and cities up and down the country. I have this feeling that the Luton demo' will explode into vicious fighting and rioting.

The so called "Movement" has been anticipating race-war and RAHOWA for years now - soon as there is a sniff of it, sure enough all the sad excuses come out. Yes, for once we share a common enemy with the Jews. That doesn't have to mean "an enemy of my enemy is a friend of mine" though, does it? Let's start with Islam and finish with the Jews. That's not too hard to comprehend is it?

[cillian]

Originally Posted by Barbie C.

The so called "Movement" has been anticipating race-war and RAHOWA for years now - soon as there is a sniff of it, sure enough all the sad excuses come out. Yes, for once we share a common enemy with the Jews. That doesn't have to mean "an enemy of my enemy is a friend of mine" though, does it? Let's start with Islam and finish with the Jews. That's not too hard to comprehend is it?

If jews were a matador and you were a bull, then islam would be the cape.

[Bob 88]

Hmm; Wonder if he will explain why the EDL claim to be anti racist, but their supporters have practically taken over Stormfront Britain

Completely under the noses of the mods - who it has to be said are hardly the brightest sparks around - like

Just check out 'Poachers' blatant pro EDL postings !.

[Gerry Fable]

Originally Posted by Barbie C.

The so called "Movement" has been anticipating race-war and RAHOWA for years now - soon as there is a sniff of it, sure enough all the sad excuses come out. Yes, for once we share a common enemy with the Jews. That doesn't have to mean "an enemy of my enemy is a friend of mine" though, does it? Let's start with Islam and finish with the Jews. That's not too hard to comprehend is it?

You don't get it, do you? The big picture. We are close to a global nuclear war, never mind a race war. America will attack Iran with nuclear weapons. If Russia steps in and defends Iran then it is curtains for us all. The Zionists want war with Iran as cover for genocide and ethnic cleansing of Palestinians in Gaza. So by engaging in the Zionist agenda you are acting like a shabazz goy. I'd stock up on food if I were you. Even if Russia doesn't get involved in the conflict, the world's economy will collapse to ruin.

Don't be a Shabazz goy. Don't give the Zionists the excuse they need to nuke Iran. Because Russian nukes could be used on us!

[Gerry Fable]

Originally Posted by cillian

If jews were a matador and you were a bull, then islam would be the cape.

Brilliant.

[andy]

I present the following from an email loop which may or may not be of use to those seeking to understand and or exploit the stated position of truth of the EDL and their view of jews and mudslims


The following is a copy of an article written by Spanish writer Sebastian Vilar Rodriguez and published in a Spanish newspaper on Jan. 15, 2008. It doesn't take much imagination to extrapolate the message to the rest of Europe - and possibly to the rest of the world.


REMEMBER AS YOU READ -- IT WAS IN A SPANISH PAPER
Date: Tue. 15 January 2008 14:30

ALL EUROPEAN LIFE DIED IN AUSCHWITZ By Sebastian Vilar Rodrigez

I walked down the street in Barcelona , and suddenly discovered a terrible truth - Europe died in Auschwitz ... We killed six million Jews and replaced them with 20 million Muslims. In Auschwitz we burned a culture, thought, creativity, talent. We destroyed the chosen people, truly chosen, because they produced great and wonderful people who changed the world.

The contribution of this people is felt in all areas of life: science, art, international trade, and above all, as the conscience of the world. These are the people we burned.

And under the pretense of tolerance, and because we wanted to prove to ourselves that we were cured of the disease of racism, we opened our gates to 20 million Muslims, who brought us stupidity and ignorance, religious extremism and lack of tolerance, crime and poverty, due to an unwillingness to work and support their families with pride.

They have blown up our trains and turned our beautiful Spanish cities into the third world, drowning in filth and crime.

Shut up in the apartments they receive free from the government, they plan the murder and destruction of their naive hosts.

And thus, in our misery, we have exchanged culture for fanatical hatred, creative skill for destructive skill, intelligence for backwardness and superstition.

We have exchanged the pursuit of peace of the Jews of Europe and their talent for a better future for their children, their determined clinging to life because life is holy, for those who pursue death, for people consumed by the desire for death for themselves and others, for our children and theirs.

What a terrible mistake was made by miserable Europe ..
***********************************
The Global Islamic population is approximately 1,200,000,000; that is ONE BILLION TWO HUNDRED MILLION or 20% of the world's population. They have received the following Nobel Prizes:

Literature:
1988 - Najib Mahfooz

Peace:
1978 - Mohamed Anwar El-Sadat
1990 - Elias James Corey
1994 - Yaser Arafat:
1999 - Ahmed Zewai

Economics:
(zero)

Physics:
(zero)

Medicine:
1960 - Peter Brian Medawar
1998 - Ferid Mourad

TOTAL: 7 SEVEN

The Global Jewish population is approximately 14,000,000; that is FOURTEEN MILLION or about 0.02% of the world's population. They have received the following Nobel Prizes:

Literature:
1910 - Paul Heyse
1927 - Henri Bergson
1958 - Boris Pasternak
1966 - Shmuel Yosef Agnon
1966 - Nelly Sachs
1976 - Saul Bellow
1978 - Isaac Bashevis Singer
1981 - Elias Canetti
1987 - Joseph Brodsky
1991 - Nadine Gordimer World

Peace:
1911 - Alfred Fried
1911 - Tobias Michael Carel Asser
1968 - Rene Cassin
1973 - Henry Kissinger
1978 - Menachem Begin
1986 - Elie Wiesel
1994 - Shimon Peres
1994 - Yitzhak Rabin

Physics:
1905 - Adolph Von Baeyer
1906 - Henri Moissan
1907 - Albert Abraham Michelson
1908 - Gabriel Lippmann
1910 - Otto Wallach
1915 - Richard Willstaetter
1918 - Fritz Haber
1921 - Albert Einstein
1922 - Niels Bohr
1925 - James Franck
1925 - Gustav Hertz
1943 - Gustav Stern
1943 - George Charles de Hevesy
1944 - Isidor Issac Rabi
1952 - Felix Bloch
1954 - Max Born
1958 - Igor Tamm
1959 - Emilio Segre
1960 - Donald A. Glaser
1961 - Robert Hofstadter
1961 - Melvin Calvin
1962 - Lev Davidovich Landau
1962 - Max Ferdinand Perutz
1965 - Richard Phillips Feynman
1965 - Julian Schwinger
1969 - Murray Gell-Mann
1971 - Dennis Gabor
1972 - William Howard Stein
1973 - Brian David Josephson
1975 - Benjamin Mottleson
1976 - Burton Richter
1977 - Ilya Prigogine
1978 - Arno Allan Penzias
1978 - Peter L Kapitza
1979 - Stephen Weinberg
1979 - Sheldon Glashow
1979 - Herbert Charles Brown
1980 - Paul Berg
1980 - Walter Gilbert
1981 - Roald Hoffmann
1982 - Aaron Klug
1985 - Albert A. Hauptman
1985 - Jerome Karle
1986 - Dudley R. Herschbach
1988 - Robert Huber
1988 - Leon Lederman
1988 - Melvin Schwartz
1988 - Jack Steinberger
1989 - Sidney Altman
1990 - Jerome Friedman
1992 - Rudolph Marcus
1995 - Martin Perl
2000 - Alan J. Heeger

Economics:
1970 - Paul Anthony Samuelson
1971 - Simon Kuznets
1972 - Kenneth Joseph Arrow
1975 - Leonid Kantorovich
1976 - Milton Friedman
1978 - Herbert A. Simon
1980 - Lawrence Robert Klein
1985 - Franco Modigliani
1987 - Robert M. Solow
1990 - Harry Markowitz
1990 - Merton Miller
1992 - Gary Becker
1993 - Robert Fogel

Medicine:
1908 - Elie Metchnikoff
1908 - Paul Erlich
1914 - Robert Barany
1922 - Otto Meyerhof
1930 - Karl Landsteiner
1931 - Otto Warburg
1936 - Otto Loewi
1944 - Joseph Erlanger
1944 - Herbert Spencer Gasser
1945 - Ernst Boris Chain
1946 - Hermann Joseph Muller
1950 - Tadeus Reichstein
1952 - Selman Abraham Waksman
1953 - Hans Krebs
1953 - Fritz Albert Lipmann
1958 - Joshua Lederberg
1959 - Arthur Kornberg
1964 - Konrad Bloch
1965 - Francois Jacob
1965 - Andre Lwoff
1967 - George Wald
1968 - Marshall W. Nirenberg
1969 - Salvador Luria
1970 - Julius Axelrod
1970 - Sir Bernard Katz
1972 - Gerald Maurice Edelman
1975 - Howard Martin Temin
1976 - Baruch S. Blumberg
1977 - Roselyn Sussman Yalow
1978 - Daniel Nathans
1980 - Baruj Benacerraf
1984 - Cesar Milstein
1985 - Michael Stuart Brown
1985 - Joseph L. Goldstein
1986 - Stanley Cohen [& Rita Levi-Montalcini]
1988 - Gertrude Elion
1989 - Harold Varmus
1991 - Erwin Neher
1991 - Bert Sakmann
1993 - Richard J. Roberts
1993 - Phillip Sharp
1994 - Alfred Gilman
1995 - Edward B. Lewis
1996- Lu RoseIacovino
TOTAL: 129!


The Jews are NOT promoting brain washing children in military training camps, teaching them how to blow themselves up and cause maximum deaths of Jews and other non Muslims. The Jews don't hijack planes, nor kill athletes at the Olympics, or blow themselves up in German restaurants. There is NOT one single Jew who has destroyed a church. There is NOT a single Jew who protests by killing people.

The Jews don't traffic slaves, nor have leaders calling for Jihad and death to all the Infidels.

Perhaps the world's Muslims should consider investing more in standard education and less in blaming the Jews for all their problems.

Muslims must ask 'what can they do for humankind' before they demand that humankind respects them.

Regardless of your feelings about the crisis between Israel and the Palestinians and Arab neighbors, even if you believe there is more culpability on Israel 's part, the following two sentences really say it all:

'If the Arabs put down their weapons today, there would be no more violence. If the Jews put down their weapons today, there would be no more Israel ." Benjamin Netanyahu

General Eisenhower Warned Us It is a matter of history that when the Supreme Commander of the Allied Forces, General Dwight Eisenhower, found the victims of the death camps he ordered all possible photographs to be taken, and for the German people from surrounding villages to be ushered through the camps and even made to bury the dead.

He did this because he said in words to this effect:

'Get it all on record now - get the films - get the witnesses - because somewhere down the road of history some bastard will get up and say that this never happened'

Recently, the UK debated whether to remove The Holocaust from its school curriculum because it 'offends' the Muslim population which claims it never occurred. It is not removed as yet. However, this is a frightening portent of the fear that is gripping the world and how easily each country is giving into it.

It is now more than 60 years after the Second World War in Europe ended. This e-mail is being sent as a memorial chain, in memory of the, 6 million Jews, 20 million Russians, 10 million Christians, and 1,900 Catholic priests who were 'murdered, raped, burned, starved, beaten, experimented on and humiliated' while many people looked the other way.

Now, more than ever, with Iran , among others, claiming the Holocaust to be 'a myth,' it is imperative to make sure the world never forgets.

This e-mail is intended to reach 400 million people. Be a link in the memorial chain and help distribute this around the world.

How many years will it be before the attack on the World Trade Center 'NEVER HAPPENED' because it offends some Muslim in the United States?

Do not just delete this message; it will take only a minute to pass this along.

[paul2314]

Zionism has anticipated the present changes in the middle east, they knew the time would come when friendly countries in the area would be few and far between. They knew the only way to secure Israel was to completely annihilate its neighbours.

For the Zionists to make this happen, they had to have complete control over Western Governments military power and political direction. We cannot argue that they have total control over politics in the Western world... hence mass immigration in European Nations from mostly Muslim Nations around the world.

They have effectively give us the same problems and the same enemies as Israel, they have us by the short and curlies, they are playing us like a fiddle.

When Israel decides to let the SHTF by attacking Iran, with Americas help and at the same time staging false flag attacks by Muslims in European and American cities, they will be effectively starting a civil war in Europe, hence gaining more support for Israel.

Its either further Zionist dominance over us or future Islamic.

[MarkP]

yeah well, on Tommy Robinson's interview.

A typical living room .......

Paxman interviews Robinson.

"at last! someone is finally doing something about all those muslims., thank god."

"what's on next!"

Gets up, puts kettle on.

[andy]

He did manage at no financial cost whatsoever deal with "Can mudslims join the EDL?" He answered "Yes of course they can" There is a lesson there for Griffin and the gesture politics wing of the Bnp

[iron90]

Fuck the EDL

YouTube - Revolutionary Aryan Warriors

YouTube - Revolutionary Aryan Warriors

[Bob 88]

I'm certainly no legal expert - but they did appear to say things that were a lot more militant than Nick Griffin allegedly said a few years ago when he was taken to court ?.
Admittedly it was often difficult to ascertain what they were saying ???

Then again Tommy seems to be obsessed with the 'Sevenf Sentury'.
It would be good to see an Islamic Scholar arguing with this character- RE seventh century Islamic, Art, Science, religion, architecture , mathematics etc

[andy]

The edl have obviously not developed a coherent statement of what they are against.Of course everyone knows what the bottom line is here and virtually all of the charges laid against the mudslims can be laid against the jews in regard to their own courts and paedophillia and white slavery.
Of course paxman backed off when the paedo gangs were raised not much he can say about that.
That said he ( lennon) has a difficult path to tread and not get nicked.Self evidently it should be a slotting offence to even read the koran in an Aryan society but Britain is not an Aryan society so Lennon is reduced to personalising the whole issue.That said personalisation and emotive refrences seems to be the way of the world it certainly is here at VNN.
At the moment he seems to be sticking with he is having to take a public stand because professional politicians will not.Perhaps with the laws as they are that is the only route for the edl as to expand or present an in depth critique of islam cannot but draw attention to the incompatability of hinduism,sufism,sikhism,buddism,protestantism and of course judaism with civilised western societies

[Gerry Fable]

FAR-RIGHT agitators are warning that race riots could be sparked over Asian gangs who target young white girls for sex.

Earlier this month, the ringleaders of a depraved 15-strong gang who groomed vulnerable girls as young as 12 for sex were given indefinite prison sentences.

Now supporters of the English Defence League (EDL) and other far-right groups say controversy over the gangs could bring *chaos to the streets not seen since the summer of 2001.

We understand the EDL is ready to* protest over the grooming issue in key areas in the North-West and Yorkshire over the coming months.

Stephen *Lennon, leader of the anti-Islam group – aka Tommy Robinson, above right – told the Daily Star Sunday: “The fact that Muslim gangs target young white girls is not new.

“This has been going on for two *decades. Yet it has been ignored by the Government and the police for too long.

“There is an undercurrent of anger in Britain and I don’t think the *Government are aware of it.

“And as more of these gangs are highlighted in the media, the more people will get angrier.

“We are not being represented by *Government or any political parties, so this is why the EDL is getting so much support.

“And if it doesn’t stop there will be civil unrest across the country – riots like we haven’t seen in a long time.

“We as a group are trying to avoid that. We want to channel that anger and *frustration into mass, peaceful protests.

“But the longer it’s ignored and brushed under the carpet, it will *happen. It will just need one incident in one town and it could trigger a reaction across the whole country.”

The jailed ringleaders of the Asian gang were Abid Mohammed Saddique, 27, and Mohammed Romaan Liaqat, 28 from Derby – both married with *children. They were described as “sexual *predators” who subjected their young victims to a “reign of terror”.

Last week nine members of an Asian gang were arrested on suspicion of *luring white girls as young as 13 into prostitution after a two-year police probe in *Rochdale, Lancs. Those arrests came after former Home Secretary Jack Straw sparked controversy by saying Pakistani men “trawled the streets” looking for young white girls as “easy meat”.

Figures show that of 56 men sentenced since 1997 for sex gang crimes involving girls aged 11 to 16, 53 were Asian.

Lennon, 27, claims the EDL has more than 60,000 members and added: “We are not racists. But we live in towns and *cities where we see the influence of *Islam on our country.

“Do you know people who are addicted to heroin sold to them by Muslim gangs? I do. Do you know any 11 or 12-year-old family members who are being pimped out by Muslim gangs? I do.”

Race riots erupted in Bradford, *Oldham and Burnley during 2001 as a result of escalating racial tensions.

The English Defence League (EDL) say controversy over the gangs could bring *chaos to the streets

I make the distinction between Muslim and Kuffa. Islam strictly forbids sex outside of marriage, as well as criminal activities such as grooming and drug dealing. To call a Pakistani criminal, 'kuffa', is ten times more insulting to them than to be called a Paki'. And that is what they are; Kuffa. They are not Muslims because their behaviour is forbidden by Islamic teaching. I respect pious Muslims; it's Paki' Kuffa whom I detest.

[Gerry Fable]

Originally Posted by paul2314

When Israel decides to let the SHTF by attacking Iran, with Americas help and at the same time staging false flag attacks by Muslims in European and American cities, they will be effectively starting a civil war in Europe, hence gaining more support for Israel.

The Jewish bible - the Torah - states:

"And I will stir up Egyptians against the Egyptians - brother will fight against brother, neighbour against neighbour, city against city, kingdom against kingdom."

(Isaiah, 19; 2)

[tom harris]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vaVGn...ayer_embedded# I think Paxman has Jewish blood he looks and acts like one.I know his supposed not to be i bet he he has Jewish blood.

[Rex Angle]

Originally Posted by tom harris

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vaVGn...ayer_embedded# I think Paxman has Jewish blood he looks and acts like one.I know his supposed not to be i bet he he has Jewish blood.

Paxman looks like a jew. He says he hasn't got Jewish blood, and I think he's a liar. He is staunchly trying to make the public think otherwise, by flatly denying he is Jewish and by writing books about the English. I don't buy it. Certainly Gavin Essler and Emily Maitliss on Newsnight are Jewish, that only leaves a Scot, Kirsty Wark, and Paxman. He looks a bit like the character on the left:

[Sunlightdemented]

Originally Posted by tom harris

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vaVGn...ayer_embedded# I think Paxman has Jewish blood he looks and acts like one.I know his supposed not to be i bet he he has Jewish blood.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/whodoyouthinkyo...y-paxman.shtml

[Husting]

Originally Posted by tom harris

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vaVGn...ayer_embedded# I think Paxman has Jewish blood he looks and acts like one.I know his supposed not to be i bet he he has Jewish blood.

Jeremy Paxman is not Jewish and does not have Jewish blood, he is quite Angle-Saxon. But even if he did, so what? The man's a journalist and broadcaster and it's his job to scrutinise and question people, a jobs he does quite well.

[tom harris]

Originally Posted by Husting

Jeremy Paxman is not Jewish and does not have Jewish blood, he is quite Angle-Saxon. But even if he did, so what? The man's a journalist and broadcaster and it's his job to scrutinise and question people, a jobs he does quite well.

I think he has Jewish blood.

[Husting]

Originally Posted by tom harris

I think he has Jewish blood.

So what? What does it matter and how does that affect his journalism?

In any case, you only think he's Jewish because of your own warped views on the grand conspiracy, so instead of telling us what you think, how about providing us with some facts.