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February 18th, 2011 | #1 |
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On the Need for Ideological Politics: Linder
[When will it end? a poster asks of one of the miseries of the multicult milieu]
We will end this when we accept it's worth risking our lives over, rather than pretending it can be cured by talking and voting. Right now, WN is simply dirty rice. The rice is conservatism, and the 'dirty' is our focus on race. Conservatism loses - always. It does not intend to win, it intends to whine. It is a "game; a way of making a living." - Joe Sobran's words about professional conservatism. It sells the suckers called the public the idea that there's an opponent to the liberal order, when in fact, if the public looked more carefully, it would see that the conservatives agree with the liberals on the deep stuff. That is why there is never any positive change, over time, simply the seemingly inexorable march of liberalization, no matter what the public says in polls or what levers it pulls in the voting booth. As Solzhenitsyn has said, there is no true self-defense -- and this goes for communal self-defense, too -- unless you are willing to risk dying. Until then, there is only compromising and excuse-making. Dirty conservatism, as WN is, is simply online entertainment at this point. Perhaps this phase is necessary; at the least there are more sites and writers than ever discussing the same problems VNN brought up back in 2000. That is good. For WN to be more than entertainment, its adherent must be willing to submit to discipline. There is no willingness to do that right now. Nor is there willingness honestly to discuss why WN can't organize effectively. That would mean taking Mao's dictum seriously (Power comes out of the barrel of a gun), whereas conservatives prefer the comfortable dream that if they just buy the right suit, employ the right euphemism, smile at the right person - their key will start the engine. Because they reject the principled, ideological, impersonal politics of the judeo-left -- as recently exemplified by Ed Asner in the article about conservative actors -- and allow their personal relations and whims to overcome what they know they should do, they will continue to fail to foster any real development beyond mutual backscratching. Jew tool Jared Taylor serves as a bellweather for our movement. So long as he is accepted as a White nationalist, no serious movement exists. The minute he is rejected with spitting hostility as the enemy by those who call themselves White men, then something real may be in the offing. Let me spell this out since the dim cannot understand what I mean. If you say that jews are the problem... ...then you can't accept men who willingly embrace the jew while calling their cause by the same name you call yours. This ought to be self evident. It is the farthest thing from self-evident to our movement. This inability to spot, let alone be troubled by, out-and-out contradictions, is a good part of the reason we're in such serious political trouble. Where does this inability come from? A number of places. 1) from the genetically low intelligence of the Southern-Midwestern rural demographic base. These people are not overly intelligent, so contradictions don't bother them, because they often don't notice them. They know to respect men who dress and speak well, and these individual successes mean far more, in their eyes, than consistent, principled political lines. 2) our British culture. Anglo (British and colonial) culture is noted for non-ideological "muddling through." In England, society is rigidly stratified between the rich and the proles. The rich all went to Oxford or Cambridge. Any political debate these tories and labour lords may have matter far less to them, at the end of the day, than the fact that they belong to the same social class. England's preference is for experimenting, for pragmatism, for muddling through - not for ideology, philosophy, and principle - these are seem as Continental, European, French or German. This attitude carried over to America. Although class is less rigid here, the hands-on, can-do pragmatism, a natural response to an open continent needing labor to make things rather than think about things, already a part of the English heritage, only strengthened the anti-ideological streak. In America, you say what you want when the cameras are rolling, but when the red light goes off, you repair to the bar to drink with your liberal buddy, like Ted Kennedy and Orin Hatch, or Pat Buchanan and Alan Colmes. This system can only be overcome by people who are radically principled, and impersonal in their politics. If someone falls on the wrong side of the line, they reject him. Just as Ed Asner rejected the conservative starlet for being pro-Bush. Even though he personally liked her, the minute the jew found out she was part of the hated other, he never spoke to her again. That is awesomely impressive. But the conservatives, even most WN, will simply find it inhuman and unthinkable. Well, my friend. That is why jews are running the world, and we're running our mouths. 3) a final cultural source of the problem is Christianity. The christ cult emphasizes the soft virtues over everything else: love, mercy, forgivenness. You should be able to see how this dovetails with overlooking the flaws or contradictions in others and their politics. Christianity strengthens the cultural tendency to play down differences, rather than make them dividing points. This is what women instinctively do within a family. But when important distinctions are glossed over in the wider community, genocide can be the result. For this reason, among a thousand others, the christ cult imperils the white race. Like liberals with niggers, WN are always making excuses and extenuations for people who are doing overtly anti-White things, like mixing with jews. Greg Johnson making excuses for Jared Taylor is the perfect example. He wastes his valuable time, and vitiates the psychic strength he and the cause needs, by fighting to defend a position he knows is utterly untenable and indefensible. If jews are as bad as I and all true VNN people say they are, then why are so many of you willing to make jokes of yourselves by going, oh, that's ok. We don't really mean it. We don't mind if you work with jews, and make excuses for them. And tell whites to blame their own farmer grandparents rather than the jew commies who fucked up our countries. We'll just ignore all that and throw our principles out the window cuz we like your conferences and how you dress and speak. The willingness to do this is testament to the too-low intellectual, moral and political quality of far too many who call themselves White Nationalists. I will not stand for anti-White garbage like Jared Taylor, and you shouldn't either. Instead, you should join me in pointing him out for what he is: the jew-appointed head of the White NAACP; his Am-Ren an organization designed to fool white nationalists the same way William F. Buckley suckered conservatives, and the same way the original NAACP suckered blacks (out of going back to Africa, or relying on their own efforts rather than blaming the white man). What we say about jews is right. And men must either be with us, or be the enemy. There is no ignoring, overlooking, splitting down the middle, pretending you compartmentalize the nigger question from the jew question. On some things there is no compromise, and jews are one of them. A principled, stern, uncompromising, rigidly ideological politics is what we need. Where do we look for examples? To the jews, the communists, and the German loyalists who evolved techniques to combat them. Not to England. Not to the church. To the people who faced the same problem we do and had more success than any other group in solving that problem. When WN politics becomes ideological and physical - then we might have something. Until then we are simply dirty rice: race-flavored conservatives. You know what the problem with white rice is, don't you? And this goes for dirty rice too... It tastes good, but it has very little nutritional value to the White body. Last edited by Alex Linder; March 5th, 2011 at 04:47 AM. |
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So how to go from this:
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Personally I don't buy the idea that when things get bad enough, i.e. when SHTF, Whites will rediscover their backbone and "rise up". Look at South Africa and Zimbabwe - it didn't happen there... So how do you get from recongising, acknowledging and talking about the problem (there is plenty of that, thanks to the Internet) to actually doing something about it In Real Life? There is none of that, at least not in UK, USA, Canada, Aust, NZ. The "far-right" Nationalist parties in Western Europe seem to be having a bit of a "bounce" lately but there is good reason to be suspicious of a lot of them, plus they've been around for a while and have had their ups and downs. But have they ever achieved anything to date - not really. So even in Europe the future looks grim... So - Mr Linder - do you have any idea as to how all the wise words on VNN (and elsewhere) can be put into action? What's the plan? How will it work, in reality? I have absolutely no idea how this could happen myself, but I would be genuinely interested to hear your ideas on this, if you have any. It seems to me to that sites like VNN are very good at indentifying the problem but very bad at coming up with solutions. I for one have no idea and I'm a complete pessimist, I admit it, but it would be great to know your thoughts on this....
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That is step one. As I've written many times. But, there is no interest I can see in the approach I advocate. So WN will continue being what it always has been. I do appreciate you repeatedly come on here and ask questions that reflect your inabilty to grasp what I've written, or even to acknowledge what I've said and try to formulate non-repetitive questions that might further things. We don't know who "we" are. Read that thirty or forty times. Then post again, asking how we solve things. And I'll say for the forty-second time, it starts with figuring out who "we" are. It really is that simple: WN is an unclear antecedent. Am I a White Nationalist? Is Jared Taylor? We both claim we are. Can both of us be right? Does it matter? Most WN appear to think it doesn't matter. I say it does matter. Until it is settled, no progress is possible. Stop acting like I haven't written this over and over and over. Ah, fuck it, you're just the average guy, and I'm giving you shit, like you should be expected to read and comprehend. My apology. It really is easy to see why jews dominate Whites. Whites never pick up on anything, whereas jews hardly miss anything. |
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OK so you have no other ideas - that's fine. I thought there might be something else there, clearly not. I do enjoy your powers of wit, sarcasm and invective tho, you have real talents there! As for me "repeatedly" coming on here and asking questions about things you've spoken about before, etc. Actually this is only the second time I've asked you personally a question on VNNF. In both cases I was asking if you could clarify things that weren't clear to me. Things that you may have commented on before, but I wasn't familiar with (at least not completely).
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Americans lost the sense of "we" because of the soft lives we lead. If you have money, you need not interact with anyone, much less have to cooperate with others and work with them. Society became automated -- it became a big machine, and so we became superfluous to one another. That is WHY we lost any sense of "we." Only when society goes from automatic to manual again, will we begin to rediscover this "we." It's that gosh darn simple. And when we have to cooperate with one another again, we'll notice that certain groups of people behave in stereotypical ways, and we'll whisper to one another about it and laugh, and agree to collaborate on a racial basis for mutual protection. I remember trying to talk to ordinary Whites on the street, and found them to be very smug in their bubble of (hallucinated) prosperity and satisfied with the status quo of multiculturalism and open borders. Millions of Whites need some good hard knocks, before they get any sense in their heads on race and Jews. Until then, we talk to each other and prepare as best we can. |
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Compromising and excuse making could be generally called "selling out" or in particular: "making friends with our enemies as a strategy for success." The Catholics, in their Vatican II did this, and in that they've been successful, insofar as they've lost millions upon millions of white practising Christians but have gained millions upon millions of non-whites into their so-called "flock." Quote:
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If you are looking for a "one true faith", check out Ben Klassen' Nature's Eternal Religion and the White Man's Bible. We do not need to re-invent the wheel, Klassen did a wonderful job in outlining a basic White Man's religion. Klassen admitted that he did not have the "whole ball of wax", however the Creed and Program that he did put together is good enough to run with. Another problem that we are faced with is a huge influx of White Nationalists, over the last ten years, who have never took the time to study what White Nationalism really means. The result is 1001 different views on any one subject. No wonder people are confused! I coined a term a few years ago, HTML jockeys, that is catching on with others. Due to our over reliance on the Internet to recruit others towards Racial Loyalty, we have in effect turned over White Nationalism to many who's only real contribution is being able to learn thousands of computer codes. In a normal world, that follows the Leadership Principle, most of these "leaders" would be nothing more than clerks. Since they control who gets to communicate with others, they in effect have become "leaders" by default. |
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The jews do take ideology seriously:
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Nothing written down on paper is your problem. You don't posit anything, you just negate the jewish worldview. Until people see your bottom line, nobody's going to take you seriously. Anyone can chant White Nation and White Power, but what about staking out how to run things and the values you stand for ?
As for JewOlogy, it's so tedious and boring it should take less than 10% of your time. Focus on - What you want. |
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