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Old December 1st, 2011 #61
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I sent an email to the Home Secretary via Britain First's website and received the below reply from them so BF have my e-mail address to start sending begging letters. I noticed after you fill in the form and post it, your next page of call is a form to send a donation to BF (Dowson and Golding).

From: "Britain First" <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 7:32 PM
Subject: Free Emma West

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The message below has been sent to Theresa May MP
Thank you for taking part in our campaign!
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For the attention of: Theresa May MP

I am most concerned about the harsh treatment given to Emma West, the so-called 'Tram Woman', who made some rather coarse remarks concerning immigration and immigrants on a train from Croydon.

I believe the treatment of Emma West is disgraceful. She may have been coarse and insulting but this is supposed to be a free country is it not? Are we not allowed to disagree with government policy any more?

Emma's beautiful children are now in the hands of those Marxian-Liberal perverts in Social Services. God knows what those kids will be feeling taken away from their mum. This is what they did to dissidents in the former East Germany - the children were seized and given to Communists unable to have children themselves while the parents were put in the gulag. Not much difference to Britain today it seems.

I hereby ask you, as a representative of the people, to use your influence to free this poor woman from the hell she is enduring and re-unite her with her children immediately.


Yours sincerely,
 
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That all may be true, but Butt-Boy Barnes has spent all kinds of time abusing anyone who suggests it. The BNP's whole thing is that we should/must/have no alternative but to work within the anti-White System, and only in that way can progress come. Which is contadictory, illogical, and flat stupid, yet look at all the tools like andy who blather on about it.

Civic nationalism is a non-starter. If the government declares you a criminal because of your race, then, well, those are the terms. And that's basically what's happened. Yeah, if you stay out of politics, they'll allow you to exist as a despised member of a rump majority, but the second your raise a finger to object to your status, they'll come down on you with all the cops, media, and System pols they can muster.

Go Sodden Winnie! Boo evil Nazis!

"You're not British, you're black."

There's a winning party slogan right there. But Nick Griffin would run not on it but from it, and that's exactly what BB Barnes would advise him to do.
I don't see your point. Since when did the BNP have a monopoly on Racial Socialism, never mind Nationalism? Pandering to the mob whose collective sentiment may, in private of course, edge towards whispers of "those bloody immigrants, they come over here taking our jobs..." has nothing to do with saving our race. The massed herd of democratic consumers will be shepherded to which ever pasture provides the greenest grass at any given moment, and they will spare little thought to the roaming wolves or lurking bears or the intentions of the shepherd. It has only ever been the minority of a minority who have achieved anything worthwhile on this tiny ball of rock; the masses have provided merely manual labour, cannon fodder and genes.
I haven't touched the BNP with a barge pole for ten years. All democratic progress is false hope and dead ends. Even Tyndall in the latter years understood that politics was going nowhere fast, except the grave.
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Join the EMMA WEST (RIGHT TO BE MOUTHY) SUPPORT GROUP

https://www.facebook.com/groups/203599609719858/
The group above has been deleted but this one has sprung up in its place, http://www.facebook.com/groups/327869043894394/ .

This post from it may be of interest for our colleagues across the pond.

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INVITATION TO ALL CONCERNED PATRIOTS - FREE EMMA WEST !

We call upon all true patriots to rally outside HMP Bronzefield, Woodthorpe Road, Ashford, Middlesex, TW15 3JZ on Friday 2nd of December at 12 midday in support of Miss Emma West.

Miss West has been victimized by the political elite and the PC multi-cult traitors who have brought this country and our people to their knees.

It is time for every true British patriot to take a stand and demand justice!

This young English woman – who was pushed over the edge on a multicultural tram - has been remanded in jail on the pretence of ‘protecting her’ due to several threats against her life.

Compare this with the treatment of the Islamic fanatics who were bailed after being charged with public order offences that occurred during their despicable homecoming demos against our troops.

Many of these traitors and jihadists were given around the clock police protection due to them receiving ‘death threats’ - nothing demonstrates the tangible anti-British/white/Christian bias spewing forth from the corrupt political elite traitors who would see this country and its people ground into the dirt.

Feel free to contact the prison to enquire about Miss West’s welfare. Ring 01784 425 690 (ask for Helga Swidenbank or Alan Thulby).

It’s time to leave party affiliations, egos and petty differences aside and stand shoulder to shoulder.

If we fail to do so in such an obvious and justified cause then how can we ever hope to rally our people into action in the future.

People will follow when led…its time my friends to lead our people from the front.

Like Emma, we have had enough and we call on all and every nationalist - men and woman alike - to join us outside the prison to show this victimized lady our support and to cry with one voice: WE WANT OUR COUNTRY BACK…NOW!

Friday, 2nd of December 2011

HMP Bronzefield, Middlesex, TW15 3JZ

12 mid-day - WILL YOU BE THERE?
 
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Isn't the fact that she has been arrested for her outburst evidence, in and of itself, that Emma has jumped squarely onboard the DE Pauly crazy train along with Dr. Duke and Ed Steele?
You are posting on the wrong thread. You need to be in the Nutzpah Lounge. I have never claimed that Duke is crazy although you seem to have a touch of it yourself. Now that you mention it, he was a little crazy to enter Germany unless he wants to spend the rest of his life in prison there. It looks to me like Emma is perfectly rational to hate Negroes.
 
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Here was my letter to the MP.
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Why don't you spend your resources deporting your criminal Negroes back to Africa instead of locking up this English Patriot? She wasn't burning London a while back like they were. Nelson is turning over in his grave.

Yours sincerely,

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Old December 2nd, 2011 #66
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Bev its on the link on your original post British First, I put false stuff in on details, dont want them spamming my email, but made the point in the small letter you get to write to Theresa May, when was the last time she travelled on a tram packed with niggers and pakis? I am also tired of the saying "violence should be avoided at all costs" coward talk, if our forefathers had avoided violence at all costs we would have been wiped out centuries ago. It worked for the IRA and many other organisation, unfortunately it is a universal language that all governments understand. The UK government caved in on the IRA and gave them pretty much what they wanted. Believe me violence does work. However, it takes courage and conviction which is something I doubt most white english have, to busy watching x-factor. Cowardice is enforced inthe schooling system, "go tell the teacher" mentality carries on into adulthood. Covert is the only way whites could organise and rally, but who would you trust some of the biggest nigger lovers are our white brothers.
Don't I look like a numpty now? I totally missed the petition.

I've said before that I admire the IRA and the ETA (now before anyone starts moaning - I do not admire their aims or what they did - I admire the way they were so bloody-minded and determined that they stopped at nothing to get what they wanted and in the case of the IRA, it got them some pretty decent concessions) but the trouble with the British is they have too much of a sense of fair play and think everything can be solved by putting a little X in a little box and that it's really rather not very sporting to actually resort to anything other than a few strong words down the pub or a stern comment on the Daily Mail site. (which, incidentally, reminds me - the Daily Mail has printed comparable things to those which Emma West said and I don't see them being carted off to jail for psychiatric evaluation).

If the white British man does decide to actually take physical action, it's usually in the form of standing outside Wetherspoons throwing empty cans at asians and shouting E E EDL. When some guy does make an impact in any way, shape or form, like the guy who was interviewed for Iranian TV, they turned his "muslamic rape gangs" into "muslamic ray guns" and it became the source of many parodies and much hilarity. I'm no defender of the EDL - and even less so now they've teamed up with the British Fluffy Party but that was a classic example of Rules for Radicals' favoured method of ridicule in action.

The sad thing is, I bet no more than 1% of them even realise it.
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Old December 2nd, 2011 #67
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When I first watched the video I thought she does sound like she has had a few scoops but things have got very serious for her now, even though I did give a nod in agreement. I hope that's not a crime, when I watched the video again I wondered what crime has she commited?

What triggered her rant to begin with was she just sat there when a load of foreign people started talking in there mother tongue I know from experience that does get your back up.

If she was banged up for this 2.26 min rant on a tram why is John Terry the Chelsea footballer still walking the streets he was caught on camera calling a black footballer crap, on the other hand he could have a point. Again Jeremy Clarkson has just been discriminatory against the strikers, my whole point is what law has she broken.
 
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I think this incident has really focused many of us on just how bad things have got. And it will get worse. We're being swamped by aliens, and told to shut up and like it. It's beyone endurance. I have been in a similar situation to her, travelling on public transport, and I would say I even have felt unsafe, something I would never have felt in the past. They certainly dislike us and God help us if they ever get to be significant numbers. Our country is being raped, destroyed, and plundered by arrogant aggressive foreigners.
 
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A WOMAN accused of a racist rant was questioned by transport police at the time – but only arrested when the 'My Tram Experience' footage was viewed by millions on YouTube.

The video of Emma West, 34, apparently racially abusing black, Asian and Polish passengers while holding her four-year-old son was watched by more than 2.2 million people after it was posted on the video sharing website.

The mother of two, from Grenville Road in New Addington, was subsequently arrested and charged with a racially aggravated public order offence.

Close friend Kerry Finch told the Advertiser how the British Transport Police (BTP) were made aware of the alleged tirade at the time of the incident, which is believed to have happened three weeks ago on a tram travelling between Wimbledon and New Addington.

Officers took her off the tram and waited with her for another one.

They then travelled back to New Addington on the tram with her, to meet her waiting husband.

West was only arrested after the video, taken by another passenger, was posted online on Sunday.

Miss Finch said: "The way the police have handled the situation is really poor.

"They were fully aware of what had happened at the time but they only decided to arrest her when everyone kicked up a fuss."

A BTP spokesman said it remained unclear when the incident took place and, therefore, whether anyone had reported it at the time.

Miss Finch, 31, has also told how West went to see a therapist at the Tamworth Road Resource Centre, in West Croydon, two days after being released from a psychiatric ward in Foxley Lane, Purley.

Croydon Magistrates' Court heard on Tuesday that West has suffered from depression since she was 18.

David Ewings, defending, told the court that she had been admitted to the psychiatric ward in September.

Police asked YouTube to remove the video, following West's arrest on Monday.

Wearing a white Adidas tracksuit top, West appeared visibly distressed throughout the hearing at Croydon Magistrates' Court on Tuesday.

She has yet to enter a plea and was remanded in custody while psychiatric reports are prepared.

West is due to appear before Croydon Magistrates' Court again on December 6.

http://www.thisiscroydontoday.co.uk/Emma-West-arrested-Tram-Experience-footage/story-14020313-detail/story.html
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Yes. 'Simply organise.' Sheer genius. Of course, an unwise man might point out that entire state apparatus exists to prevent Whites from organizing, since the modern 'Western' (for western read jewish-bolshevik) state exists precisely to dispossess White Men, hence must makes whites' organizing on that racial basis the one thing that must be prevented at any cost.
Eventually the western communist regime will take the children of all the racist/nazi parents directly or indirectly because the children are the future and they belong to the state.

Social Services take Emma West's children...join our demonstration tomorrow!

http://thebritishresistance.co.uk/na...ation-tomorrow

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Just under 20 people held a quiet protest outside HMP Bronzefield this lunchtime calling for the release of Emma West, held there on remand after her foul-mouthed outburst on a Croydon Tram was posted on YouTube.
Ashford, Middx, UK. 2/12/2011

The prison protest was called by 'Britain First', 'a patriotic political movement', and was led by Andy McBride, its National Coordinator, who resigned in March after over seven years as a regional organiser for the BNP.

Along with others at the protest, Mr McBride insisted to me that this was a protest over the right to freedom of speech. Although the outburst by Emma West was full of foul language, he said that the organisation's lawyers had examined the video (now seen on YouTube by over 8.7 million) and had concluded it was not racist, and that otherwise they would not be at Bronzefield protesting.

Although police had apparently asked for it to be removed, the video was still on YouTube this afternoon, and a pretty accurate asterisk studded transcript was published by the Daily Mail on Tuesday. I studied both on returning from the protest and her outburst seems clearly to me to have been driven by racial hostility.

McBride also reminded me that none of those actually present on the tram had made a complaint, and that proceedings had only taken place after the video had been uploaded to YouTube and then brought to the attention of the British Transport Police. He said that his organisation had received evidence from some of those present who state that there had been some provocation of Ms West before the events recorded on the video which had led to her outburst. It says on the Britain First web site:

"What she said on that tram was harsh, coarse and very unladylike, no doubt about that, but what abuse had she been subjected to before the camera phone was switched on?"

Ms West, 34, from New Addington, is the mother of two children, one of whom was sitting on her lap during the whole incident. She appeared in Croydon Magistrates Court on Tuesday in an apparently distressed state, did not enter a plea and was remanded in custody while psychiatric reports are prepared. She is expected to be back in court next Tuesday.

The protesters feel strongly that she should not have been held in custody, and that as in many other cases detention on remand is being used as a way to punish her - and her children who have been taken into care - without a trial. One of those present contrasted the treatment of her with the 'kid gloves' approach used against Muslim extremists who had taken part in burning poppies at last years Remembrance Day.

Several of those present expressed the opinion too me that her treatment was an example of the way that white British people are now discriminated against by our police and legal system. I pointed out to them that similar treatment does occur to many from the ethnic minorities, some of who are subjected to a great deal of harassment by police, and there was some agreement with my suggestion that the poor and the powerless in our society are discriminated against by police and our legal system, whether black or white.

The actual protest was a quiet affair, with the group standing by the visitor centre a short distance away from the prison, holding posters with the text 'Free Emma West' as well as Union flags and a Britain First banner. One protester held the white dragon on a red field, the English flag before the adoption of the St George's cross. There had been rumours before the event that the EDL would be attending the protest, but there was no sign of their presence. It was a calm and entirely peaceful protest, with no racist chanting, hardly any noise at all, with just a few rather half-hearted chants of 'Free Emma West' for the video camera of one of the protesters, who also recorded Andy McBride talking to me.

The Britain First web site refers to Emma West as a "feisty English mother" and having watched the full video of her outburst several times I don't find this accurate. Her language and attitude suggest to me someone with severe psychiatric problems - extremely disturbed rather than feisty, and I find it an insult to the English for her behaviour to be associated with our nation. It's also hard to imagine what kind of mother treats her own rather nervous looking son to this kind of filthy outburst, certainly no part of my image of motherhood. Whether or not her behaviour accounts to the racially aggravated offence of intentional harassment, alarm or distress under Section 4A of the Public Order Act 1986 is for the court to decide.

http://www.demotix.com/news/951463/p...oman-emma-west
 
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Disappointing turnout. I know it's a weekday, not the weekend, and it's down South which is a long way out for many people. A lot of people went to the US Embassy to oppose Choudary's mob as well. However, I can't help but think that if any other organisation had been the one behind it, the turnout would have been a lot better.
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I wouldn't touch that organization with a barge pole but fair play to them for making the effort.
 
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There's no chance this was a setup? I don't think it was, just wondering. The camera seemed awfully well positioned, but more than that it's the perfectly blond male child on her lap that makes me wonder. And boy do I hesitate to post this, given the typical even-VNNer's inability to distinguish between valid theories and invalids.

How perfectly the woman's name is 'West' - perfect for our cause, not theirs, which works against the theory. I loved that 'you're not British, you're black.' That's killer. It slays the whole claim.

Been reading Ellul lately; he's a French guy who wrote a book called "Propaganda." One of his claims is the bogus ideas must be continually put forth to the subject population through all available media so the targets have no chance to breathe, so that no other ideas have even a chance to break through. Keep this up for decades and, well, you get what we have now.
I said this two days ago in a thread, that for some reason nobody responded too, I suggested it was ''maybe'' a ZOG operation!
 
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I wouldn't touch that organization with a barge pole but fair play to them for making the effort.
I think the Dowson brand is just as off-putting to genuine Nationalists as the toxic* BNP brand.

*This 'smear word' appears to have derived from a system source but has been taken up by many of us just as the terms Racist, Nazi, Fascist etc., have been offered up by our racial traitors and enemies for our mutual delectation. I am a Racial Socialist and I do not hate other races, I am merely indifferent to their life-experiences and do not wish to live among them, nor am I a member of a National Socialist or Fascist group or organisation, German or otherwise. The system cleverly employs semantics to our detriment and, in the majority of cases, it is devastatingly successful.
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I don't see your point. Since when did the BNP have a monopoly on Racial Socialism, never mind Nationalism? Pandering to the mob whose collective sentiment may, in private of course, edge towards whispers of "those bloody immigrants, they come over here taking our jobs..." has nothing to do with saving our race. The massed herd of democratic consumers will be shepherded to which ever pasture provides the greenest grass at any given moment, and they will spare little thought to the roaming wolves or lurking bears or the intentions of the shepherd. It has only ever been the minority of a minority who have achieved anything worthwhile on this tiny ball of rock; the masses have provided merely manual labour, cannon fodder and genes.
I haven't touched the BNP with a barge pole for ten years. All democratic progress is false hope and dead ends. Even Tyndall in the latter years understood that politics was going nowhere fast, except the grave.
My point is Snickengriff and Barnes have been lecturing everybody in America and elsewhere over staying legal, forming a party (here), working within the System. And every step of the way sane people like me have been telling them they're wrong. But they weren't just advocating their position, they have been positively abusive, both of them, against sane people arguing the position Jon-Li Barnes, at least, has finally come around to. They act like know-it-alls, but they don't know it all. They're flat wrong about the BNP way being the right way for Whites in Britain.
 
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I said this two days ago in a thread, that for some reason nobody responded too, I suggested it was ''maybe'' a ZOG operation!
They didn't respond because it's probably not. Most WN, like most people, are dumb. Normal dumb people = believe everything they hear. Normal dumb WN people = doubt everything they hear, call it a conspiracy. People who matter? They recognize that evidence is the criterion for separating the true from the false, the likely from the unlikely.
 
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