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Old March 21st, 2012 #1
Nikolas
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I'm not really an Anti or a White Nationalist, I'm just here to learn. So please don't view me as opposition or a troll or anything like that. I apologize if anything I say is incorrect in regards to your beliefs, bear in mind I'm still learning. Plus the White Nationalist community is pretty diverse, so I've learned different things from different sources.
Anyway, the following questions are things I always wanted to ask people within this community...

A lot of White Nationalists say the Jews are controlling the media and using it to destroy the white race by promoting things like race-mixing, drug use, promiscuous sex, and such. Now, I totally agree that Zionists use the media to promote Zionism and wars for Israel. What I don't get is, aren't they destroying their own people by promoting things like drug use? If the Jews make a movie glorifying drugs, aren't they worried some young Jewish kids will see it and do drugs too?
Is it a possibility that the Jews who make low-brow movies aren't really that Jewish, rather they're just Americanized Jews with no strong ties to the Jewish community?

The Nuremberg Laws said that if a German had only two Jewish grandparents, they were allowed to be apart of German society and serve in the army. Germans with one Jewish grandparent were even allowed to marry an Aryan. Do you agree with this? If a half-Jew or quarter-Jew was culturally white, would he be allowed to live in the white society that White Nationalists want?
The Nazis also considered Nordic Germans to be generally racially superior to other Germans. Do you care about things like hair or eye color? Do you think Northern Europeans are superior for evolutionary reasons due to their harsher environment?
Is there anything the Nazis did that you think was completely wrong?

Today's scientists divide the human species into four groups, Caucasoid, Negroid, Australoid, and Mongoloid. Do you agree with this view of race?
Also, today's scientists no longer believe in the Nordic/Alpine/Mediterranean grouping. Have White Nationalists also dropped this view?

In a WN society, how much freedom would the individual have? Would you want certain media banned if they promoted things considered harmful to white people? Would ordinary citizens have freedom of speech?
Would either soft or hard drugs be legal? I'm assuming race-mixing would be illegal, right?

Do you want one huge Fourth Reich styled empire including North America, Europe, and Australia? Or would you rather each white country has its own sovereignty?
Should white nations be centralized with the federal government controlling everything, or decentralized with various states or provinces dealing with most things?

For those of you who believe in a god, do you believe this god created all of the races? Does he love or care about all races or just the white race?
And for those of you who are Christian, how do you rationalize Jesus and other major Bible figures being Jewish? What about the Jews being the chosen people and Israel being the holy land?
Also, how do explain the following quote: "Because all of you are one in the Messiah Jesus, a person is no longer a Jew or a Greek, a slave or a free person, a male or a female."(Galatians 3:28)

And finally, in a WN society, what would happen to whites who didn't care about their race? Would they be exiled or just left to their own devices as long as they didn't cause any trouble?

Thanks for reading and answering.
 
Old April 3rd, 2012 #2
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G'day mate,

Firstly, yes i am new to this forum ( 2nd post actually) but i have been NS for about 3 or 4 years now.

Secondly i would like to thank you for taking the time to ask us about our views instead of just sucking down the jewish lies. It takes courage to come out and learn our point of view. I did that and now i am NS, so hopefully you will join in our struggle.

ok, i just nutted down some of your questions and i hope its sufficiant enough for you, if not please ask more questions, im sure someone on this forum will help you out at some point.

first question- I see exactly where your coming from and yes it does seem a tad confusing when we say jewish media brainwashes us White folk. Fact is, the Jewish media brainwashes all races, black, latino, asian and White and even to the jewish elite, lesser jews.

When we say jews control the world, we dont mean the jewish baker down the road or the jewish factory hand, what we mean is the top top top jewish elite. So yes, the jewish filth that is pumped out in the media probably does convince some jews to take drugs, glorify crime, become prostitutes and become hooked on porn, however the "right" jews know what the plan is so they dont really need to worry.

The idea for them is to create a new world order through mass disorder. If some of their people suffer because of it, so be it, its worth it for them at the end of the day.

second question- views on race in our movement are diverse. Some people believe in White pride world wide ( like myself) where all people of European Christianized stock are accepted, where as some believe in only their country ( France for Frenchmen type deal) or some just accpet American, Australian, New Zealander and British people as White.

This sometimes comes down to the ideology you come to believe in within the WN/NS spectrum.

third question- Its really hard to say what would or would not be banned. Again, this all comes down to what ideology you follow within the WN/NS spectrum.

As far as i can tell, i have not come across too many people that advocate outright banning of content as we all tend to generally agree on free speech. We may not oike that they say, but we defend their right to say it i suppose.

Another valid point to advocate this is the fact that VNN has an opposing views forum and surprisingly enough i have seen a few opposing views threads on different forums. We encourage debate.... I challange you to find an opposing views thread on a Marxist forum, though dont waste too much time since you will probably come up short.

We are not the ones that generally advocate supression of free speech, that really does tend to be in the realm of the Marxist scum.

fourth question- once again it all depends on your stance within the WN/NS spectrum. I myself identify with Christian Identity/Strasserism. As fine as a White Australia would be, i am more and more inclined to believe that it simply will not happen here. However, most CI adherants believe in an Aryan homeland, where all White folk can emmigrate to to rebuild our race. This can be in the USA, Australia, Europe or any place White people take control of their country. Of course, it all depends on who you talk to though

fifth question- instead of answering i would like to direct you to a great website with tons of information especially regarding NS ideology and the bible

http://aryan-nations.org/

sixth question- well, of course there will be people that dont really care about race. They would not be exiled or imprisined or anything like that, it would be totally unessesary.

As long as they abide by the laws and are productive members of their society, they would be fine.

Perhaps they would like the stand we make on law and order, or the better working conditions a NS society would have or perhaps they like the defending of our natural enviroment ( i know thats surprising that a fascist can care about the enviroment but what will really shock you is that it was Hitler's Germany that first put in place laws to protect the enviroment!!)

There are a number of reasons why White folk would want to be apart of a NS society and race really does not need to be among the top reasons ( unless they are in the party or something).

Of course people would be allowed to leave, its not like communism and people are locked in.

hope this answerd some of your questions mate

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Old April 4th, 2012 #3
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Views on the jews in the 30s and 40s have grown from dislike and distrust to an all out need to remove the parasite from the planet. The Germans tried to move them out of Europe, now for the sake of ourselves and the world Jews need to go. Period.

As for the Nordic/Alpinid/Med of course some of us still follow it.

The issue with the whole 'who is white' and 'which whites are smarter' is so diverse in opinion that i don't think anyone here has the same thought on the idea. To me you're not white if you have black hair and brown eyes, that is the sign of beast blood. As for intelligence among Europeans Nords and Alpinids are pretty much the same. Mediterraneans are lesser.

A lot of these questions your asking are very relative. To me in a WN society we have no choice but to limit certain aspects of free speech and individual freedom until all the brown skins are off the planet. We can not risk a repeat of what is happening to us right now. A real white man wouldn't need drugs to enjoy himself so why allow that filth into the nation? Why would we allow race mixing when our people are literally dying off by the thousands?
 
Old April 4th, 2012 #4
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Do you care about things like hair or eye color?
Yes.

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Do you think Northern Europeans are superior for evolutionary reasons due to their harsher environment?
No.

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Is there anything the Nazis did that you think was completely wrong?
I am not a National Socialist.

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Today's scientists divide the human species into four groups, Caucasoid, Negroid, Australoid, and Mongoloid. Do you agree with this view of race?
I'm not sure.

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Also, today's scientists no longer believe in the Nordic/Alpine/Mediterranean grouping. Have White Nationalists also dropped this view?
If "sub-race" is indeed a reality, it's clearly a lot more complicated than that.

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Would either soft or hard drugs be legal?
In my humble opinion, hard drugs serve a clear purpose, that purpose being to cull the population and weed out the degenerates. In a more progressive society, however, this would presumably be unnecessary.

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I'm assuming race-mixing would be illegal, right?
I do suppose so.

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And finally, in a WN society, what would happen to whites who didn't care about their race? Would they be exiled or just left to their own devices as long as they didn't cause any trouble?
Liberals, egalitarians and general traitors would be shipped off to Africa to live with their beloved Negro pets.

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Thanks for reading and answering.
No problem. Thanks for the inquiry.
 
Old April 4th, 2012 #5
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Fact is, the Jewish media brainwashes all races, black, latino, asian and White and even to the jewish elite, lesser jews.
Well, blacks don't have brains so they don't matter. But the fundamental point to remember is that jews are the ONLY race that matters. All other races are either tools of the jew, or (desirably) its servants.

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What I don't get is, aren't they destroying their own people by promoting things like drug use? If the Jews make a movie glorifying drugs, aren't they worried some young Jewish kids will see it and do drugs too?
Jews Do do drugs; jews always have. The jew gets a holy latitude not afforded the non-semite. But the jew sorts out its own, also. There is also a division of between Americanised jews and those of YidRael, particularly the orthodox variety. But the jew nation is a permissive one, as contradictorily as it is restrictive. A jew doing drugs is better than a goy doing drugs. In the utter corruption of the Zog mind, it's hard to corrupt that which is so thoroughly corrupt to start with. Yet, drugs will find victims in any race.

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Is it a possibility that the Jews who make low-brow movies aren't really that Jewish, rather they're just Americanized Jews with no strong ties to the Jewish community?
They make lowbrow movies FOR the goy. Much of that money inevitably finds its way back to YidRael. The question itself assumes a purity of their religion ("Jewish Community"), whereas its religion is based upon the hatred of all else. Nothing it does in the pursuit of debasement is wrong.

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The Nuremberg Laws said that if a German had only two Jewish grandparents, they were allowed to be a / part of German society and serve in the army. Germans with one Jewish grandparent were even allowed to marry an Aryan. Do you agree with this? If a half-Jew or quarter-Jew was culturally white, would he be allowed to live in the white society that White Nationalists want?
Culturally White? Being White is racial. Those laws yielded to pragmatism in part, but they'd never have applied to the SS. Yet, in the odd instance, such as a certain bodyguard of Hitler who was jewish but was a loyal comrade: he was allowed to serve. That was Hitler's call: Himmler wasn't pleased about it at all. The muddying of the race is undesirable in totality.

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And finally, in a WN society, what would happen to whites who didn't care about their race? Would they be exiled or just left to their own devices as long as they didn't cause any trouble?
If they didn't 'care' about their race, they would've perished by that stage.
 
Old June 6th, 2012 #6
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Two must read books if you want to truly know the WN point of view. Now on Archive.org in flip page format.



Fame of a Dead Man's Deeds is the biography of Cosmotheism and National Alliance founder Dr. William Luther Pierce (deceased) a white nationalist and futurist visionary. The book is written by Dr. Robert S. Griffin as an up close portrait of one of the most controversial men in the United States.

http://archive.org/details/FameOfADeadMansDeeds_100

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Hitler's Table Talk



Hitler's Table Talk (German: Tischgespräche) is the title given to a series of wartime conversations and monologues delivered by Adolf Hitler, which were transcribed from 1941 to 1944. Hitler's remarks were recorded by Heinrich Heim, Henry Picker, and Martin Bormann, and later published by different editors, under different titles, in three different language

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Old June 6th, 2012 #7
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Plus the White Nationalist community is pretty diverse, so I've learned different things from different sources.
Core principles can not be diverse.

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A lot of White Nationalists say the Jews are controlling the media and using it to destroy the white race by promoting things like race-mixing, drug use, promiscuous sex, and such. Now, I totally agree that Zionists use the media to promote Zionism and wars for Israel. What I don't get is, aren't they destroying their own people by promoting things like drug use? If the Jews make a movie glorifying drugs, aren't they worried some young Jewish kids will see it and do drugs too?
Is it a possibility that the Jews who make low-brow movies aren't really that Jewish, rather they're just Americanized Jews with no strong ties to the Jewish community?
I remember those questions. You ask the same questions on every site you register , don't you?

This will be maybe shocking to you but we realy don't care about young jews education. So if jewish controled media make one smaller impact on part of their youth also , we won't cry about it.

What concern us is that theirs media is designed to destroy primarly and ONLY white youth.

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The Nuremberg Laws said that if a German had only two Jewish grandparents, they were allowed to be apart of German society and serve in the army. Germans with one Jewish grandparent were even allowed to marry an Aryan. Do you agree with this? If a half-Jew or quarter-Jew was culturally white, would he be allowed to live in the white society that White Nationalists want?
No.

The Nurember Laws was good begining but we should improve it now.
No 1/4 jew allowed any more.

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The Nazis also considered Nordic Germans to be generally racially superior to other Germans. Do you care about things like hair or eye color? Do you think Northern Europeans are superior for evolutionary reasons due to their harsher environment?
Superiority isn't a issue here. We fight for mere survival as a race.
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Is there anything the Nazis did that you think was completely wrong?
Yes.

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Today's scientists divide the human species into four groups, Caucasoid, Negroid, Australoid, and Mongoloid. Do you agree with this view of race?
Also, today's scientists no longer believe in the Nordic/Alpine/Mediterranean grouping. Have White Nationalists also dropped this view?
White Nationalists believe in White Race. We don't give a damn what those fraud , fake , PC "scientists" believe or not believe.

Those "scientist" scum denied Race existence but approved homosexual disease as something normal.

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In a WN society, how much freedom would the individual have?
As much as he deserve.
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Would you want certain media banned if they promoted things considered harmful to white people?
Certainly.
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Would ordinary citizens have freedom of speech?
Yes , if it is not against Racial and National interests.
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Would either soft or hard drugs be legal?
NO.
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I'm assuming race-mixing would be illegal, right?
In White homeland - yes.

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Do you want one huge Fourth Reich styled empire including North America, Europe, and Australia? Or would you rather each white country has its own sovereignty?
Every country to be completly free and independent but in White Federation = Europe + Australia + South Africa + North Asia (russia) + North America.

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For those of you who believe in a god, do you believe this god created all of the races? Does he love or care about all races or just the white race?
He cares about everyone but the biggest crimes are commited against us. God gave to our Race the best genetic material , so we must respect his decision and start to be the Masters of our fate. We must survive and we must be free , and we must stay racially pure - that much we own to Him.

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And for those of you who are Christian, how do you rationalize Jesus and other major Bible figures being Jewish?
He isn't jewish. God is not jewish. And he is son of God.
I will never understand this scam - if he is God's son - how can he be jew?
Do you imply that God himself is a jew?

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What about the Jews being the chosen people and Israel being the holy land?
Also, how do explain the following quote: "Because all of you are one in the Messiah Jesus, a person is no longer a Jew or a Greek, a slave or a free person, a male or a female."(Galatians 3:28)
Misinterpreted !
 
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