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Old August 23rd, 2013 #1
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SocDem Head Says Slovenian Right Switching towards Pro-Fascism (adds)
response from SDS in para 9-10, statement fom NSi in final 2 para


A map showing how the Slovenian territory was divided among the occupying forces (Italy, Germany, Hungary) during WWII which was put on display at an exhibition at the Krško City Museum..

Ljubljana, 23 August (STA) - Commenting on the attendance of opposition leader Janez Janša at the upcoming celebration of the 70th anniversary of the pro-Nazi Domobranci movement in Slovenia, SocDem president Igor Lukšič told the press on Friday that the Slovenian right has made a transition from anti-communism to pro-fascism.

http://www.sta.si/en/vest.php?s=a&id=1918676
 
Old August 23rd, 2013 #2
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Quote:
Upor proti okupatorju je bil častno dejanje Kljub trdovratnim poskusom opravičevanja zločina, ki jih vedno znova proizvaja kultura smrti, obstaja nekaj preprostih resnic o času usodnih delitev, s katerimi se po Janševem mnenju strinja velika večina ljudi v Sloveniji. To so, da je okupacija bila podlaga vsega zla, saj brez nje ne bi bilo ne vojne, ne revolucije, ne kolaboracije in ne povojnih pobojev. Nadalje je Janša prepričan tudi, da je bil upor proti okupatorju častno dejanje, a izkoriščanje oboroženega odpora proti okupatorju za prevzem oblasti je bilo zavržno dejanje.
http://www.rtvslo.si/slovenija/jansa...sega-zla/98085
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Janša ['Yahnsha] is convinced that the national resistance against the occupation was an honourable act, but he thinks the partisans only used the armed resistance against the Nazis for the post-war communist takeover.

2.
Slovenian Right (which is extremely Christian) is not neo-Nazi. Quite the contrary – they despise the Nazis; some of them justify their pro-Domobranci (Homeguard) stance with belief that the partisans* only worsened the situation in Slovenia; they are convinced that Slovenia could have avoided the incident, if it weren't for the armed resistance – they described the collaboration as a "tactical cooperation".

3.
These Slovenian Right-wing parties are pro-Allied and Christian.

Quote: To je bilo lahko samo zato, ker je pač prišel tak ukaz od nemškega poveljnika, mogoče pa gre poudariti tudi, da med domobranci skoraj ni bilo dezertacij, da niso bežali. Pri številu 15.000 je število nekaj sto povsem normalno. Kar je zanimivo, je, da je domobranstvo ostajalo na isti vojaški moči vse do konca vojne, da se ni osipalo. Je pa res, da so Nemci ostrili kontrolo nad domobranci, ker so se bali, da bi se ob prihodu zaveznikov domobranci obrnili zoper njih.
http://www.mladina.si/93264/domobran...-rusko-fronto/

Comment: The Nazis (Germans) were worried that the Homeguard Army would turn its back on them, if the Allies had arrived, so they had to exercise control over the Homeguards (Domobranci).

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Far-right Slovene SNS** party is anti-Nazi.

Quote: Nesporno dejstvo je, da so bili zmagovalci druge svetovne vojne zavezniki (Američani, Angleži in Rusi), s katerimi skupaj so slovenski partizani premagali naci-fašistično koalicijo, ki so jo v Evropi sestavljale Italija, Nemčija, Hrvaška in še nekatere satelitske države. Nikakor ne moremo pristajati na to, da bi bili pripadniki kvizlinških enot, kot so bile na primer: bela garda, črna roka, MVAC in podobni, borci za svobodo slovenskega naroda, saj so izdajali in pobijali lasten, slovenski rod, kar ni opravičljivo nikdar v zgodovini in nikjer na tej zemeljski obli.
http://www.sns.si/zmago/stalisca/polpretekla_zgodovina/

Comment: This party condemns "the members of the quisling organizations who were butchering their own brothers."

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*Significant non-communist anti-Fascist Slovene organization during and before WWII: TIGR.

**Mentioned by Breivik in his manifesto under the "Eastern European Right wing parties/nationalist orgs"

Quote: Slovenska Nacionalna Stranka (SNS) Slovenian National Party http://www.sns.si/ (Nationalist) 5,4% in 2008 election
 
Old August 23rd, 2013 #3
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NSi statement:

Danes, 23. avgusta, se Evropa spominja žrtev totalitarnih in avtoritarnih režimov. Evropski parlament je ta dan razglasil za dan spomina na žrtve totalitarnih režimov z resolucijo, ki jo je sprejel 2. aprila 2009. V Novi Sloveniji smo prepričani, da mora tudi Slovenija obsoditi zločine vseh treh totalitarnih režimov in ta dan primerno obeležiti. Le tako bomo naredili korak naprej k razumevanju zgodovine in narodni spravi. Vse žrtve in njihovi še živeči svojci pa zaslužijo tudi ureditev grobišč in pokop posmrtnih ostankov.
http://www.reporter.si/slovenija/nsi...vedanjem/18307

Comment: They are convinced that Slovenia, too, must condemn all three totalitarian regimes.
 
Old August 23rd, 2013 #4
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Conclusion:

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Members of the Slovenian (far) right parties are conservatives.

2.
"Clerical fascist" is a slur used by the Slovenian Left; no party is in reality pro-Nazi.

No, there are no Slovene parties which favour Nazism or Fascism; they just oppose communism.
 
Old August 25th, 2013 #5
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But we know how loosely are words like Fascist used, especially by your side..
 
Old August 25th, 2013 #6
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But we know how loosely are words like Fascist used, especially by your side..
Kajtimar is just pissed off that there are so many Slovenian Nazis.








Oh, and Janez Jansa is still a piece of shit, no different from an old school communist. Ex-member of League of Communists = Modern Democrat.
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Old September 3rd, 2013 #7
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Serbian, do you have any new pictures of Slovenian B&H division? Those are very old and seem to be the only ones, so I wonder.

Anyway




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Old September 3rd, 2013 #8
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Carantania

psl. *Korǫtanъ

I'll just leave these maps here.



 
Old November 10th, 2013 #9
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"The Northern Europe is too cold and everything is too expensive, the Western Europe is too usual, Turkey is too different, the East is too "eastern"". — The exchange students explain why they have chosen Slovenia.

"The student coupons are the best. I have no idea how the country is able to pull it, but this is a great system."

"The Slovenian economy is supposed to be in crisis, but it doesn't look that way, if we take a look at the cars you drive."

"I was lost at Prešeren's square, and suddenly, an older man, I think he was over 70, stops and asks me if I need any help in English. I find it hard to believe that so many people here speak English."

"At my faculty it's hardest to get London and Ljubljana because they both demand high score in English language."

"I didn't know that Slovenes look like Austrians, I thought they were similar to Italians."

http://www.dnevnik.si/ljubljana/misl...ni-italijanom-
 
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