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Old December 18th, 2013 #1
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It appears humans’ love and reverence for cats is a touch one-sided. Professor Daniel Mills of the University of Lincoln in the United Kingdom is a recognized “specialist in clinical animal behavior,” and he says that just because you want your cat to love you back doesn’t mean it’s going to happen.

Professor Mills told the BBC, “How do you actually characterize the relationship between the cat and the owner? Owners invest a lot emotionally in the cat relationship. Now, that doesn’t mean that the cat’s investing in the same sort of emotional relationship. So, our research was really aimed at trying to look to see whether cats are making that emotion commitment.”

The study was an adaptation of The Strange Situation, a study developed by famed psychologist Mary Ainsworth. Through a series of steps, it proved that children have an attachment relationship their parents and/or caregivers.

Mills and his team first tried it out with a cute dog. Unsuprisingly, the dog’s behavior resembled a child’s. The professor told the BBC, “In the case of dogs and in the case of children, the attachment actually means that you see the individual as a source of comfort and something provides joy, and also a source of safety.”

But cats? Not so much. In the video example the report provides, you can watch the cat just completely ignore her owner to interact with the stranger (it’s kind of heartbreaking). Mind you, Mills and his team followed the same exact steps that showed an emotional connection between parents and children and dog owners and their pooches.

Also, I just want to point out that it doesn’t appear Mills is some kind of anti-cat propagandist. Dude has a cat in his profile picture on the University of Lincoln website.

The researchers have now performed this experiment with 20 cats, but haven’t finished the study yet. So, I guess the more foolishly optimistic of us could say the results are inconclusive…but, according to KUSA NBC 9 News, Mills has titled the study “Cats Hate Owners.” So…yeah. Sorry.

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/oddnews/...210131278.html

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Old December 18th, 2013 #2
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Our cat only shows affection when he wants our help in disposing of the corpse of his most recent rodent serial kill.
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Old December 18th, 2013 #3
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My cat doesn´t love me?



How horrid.
 
Old December 18th, 2013 #4
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Humans just prefer emotionally shallow pets needing fucking constant social interaction because it's what they can relate to.
 
Old December 18th, 2013 #5
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I have a cat pet, but I keep it outside.

I give it food once a day, it hunts mice and that´s that.
 
Old December 18th, 2013 #6
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Big newsflash here.

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because it's what they can relate to.
That's not too far from the truth.

Cats are, unlike humans and dogs, absolutely not social animals, even among themselves. It's not love they should be talking about, but sociability.

They (and it's only some cats - many never became domesticated at all, and remained wild animals) became 'domesticated' out of expedience in the first place, around the time of grain farming - they realised that where the hairless apes are, there's always a lot of prey to feed on (mice, rats, birds...)

And when pickings are slim, the hairless apes will usually give them something to eat, and security by reason of their proximity.

If you die with a dog in the house, it will be fucking distraught - they often die of grief when their owners do.

If you die with a cat in the house ... shit, you'll be lucky if kitty isn't feasting on your cheeks and the palms of your hands.

The closest approximation of cat socialisation among people is a person with autism.

But we love them because they're so graceful - oh, and because they're expert hunters, much better than any dog.
 
Old December 18th, 2013 #7
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Does anyone here really believe that a cat loves anything other than its own self? CATS DO NOT LOVE YOU.

Cats eat smaller animals that hate you even more than cats do. That is the only value that a cat has.
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I used to feed the feral cats around my house. It was a good arrangement at first -- they kept the mice out of my rain gutters, and the birds and squirrels away from my tomato plants and raspberry bushes. Pretty soon however, (about a year later to be exact) they went from 5 or 6 in number, to at least 20. All they were doing was fighting all night, screwing each other, and banging on the doors and windows to be fed. Finally I just gradually cut them off and their numbers returned to something more in balance with their surroundings.

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I used to feed the feral cats around my house. It was a good arrangement at first -- they kept the mice out of my rain gutters, and the birds and squirrels away from my tomato plants and raspberry bushes. Pretty soon however, (about a year later to be exact) they went from 5 or 6 in number, to at least 20. All they were doing was fighting all night, screwing each other, and banging on the doors and windows to be fed. Finally I just gradually cut them off and their numbers returned to something more in balance with their surroundings.
Cats can spread disease to humans; most of their owners aren't aware of that. Neither cat shit nor dog shit are supposed to be used in gardens for just that reason.

I like to throw bones or vegetable matter out in midwinter on the snow just outside my door, it's amazing how quickly it disappears. Animal noses are more powerful than Superman, they can smell anything anywhere, pretty much, and they head right for it when the sun goes down. Opossums, raccoons, dogs, cats will all sniff around for free food.
 
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Big newsflash here.



That's not too far from the truth.

Cats are, unlike humans and dogs, absolutely not social animals, even among themselves. It's not love they should be talking about, but sociability.

They (and it's only some cats - many never became domesticated at all, and remained wild animals) became 'domesticated' out of expedience in the first place, around the time of grain farming - they realised that where the hairless apes are, there's always a lot of prey to feed on (mice, rats, birds...)

And when pickings are slim, the hairless apes will usually give them something to eat, and security by reason of their proximity.

If you die with a dog in the house, it will be fucking distraught - they often die of grief when their owners do.

If you die with a cat in the house ... shit, you'll be lucky if kitty isn't feasting on your cheeks and the palms of your hands.

The closest approximation of cat socialisation among people is a person with autism.

But we love them because they're so graceful - oh, and because they're expert hunters, much better than any dog.
have to call a big BULLSHIT here. cats are colonial by nature. and, socialize within that colony. as with human colonialists, cats also exhibit individualistic and stoic personalities. when cats groom their masters it is undoubtedly a show of affection. this article was written by an over-half educated know-it-all, i went to college and have a p.h.d. fucking moron with no PRACTICAL experience.

finally, when a cat presents you with a kill, for instance, a dead bird, it is the highest form of respect, appreciation and affection it can exhibit. after all, why do you give presents to anyone if not out of affection? for example, think of a man presenting a woman with a diamond ring.
college professors are the least expert in the fields they are expert in. sorry state isn't it? this, after spending twenty years of schooling and untold sums of mostly borrowed money, just to eloquently prove to the world what a fucking idiot one is and where the only thing you are expert and proficient in is being an academic (nothing more that a lifelong professional stoodint).

cats, both big and small have been around longer than human beings, i'm putting my money on the cats rather than a Pointy Headed Dummy (P.H.D.).
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Old December 18th, 2013 #12
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Mine is purring up a storm in my lap right now; she sometimes grooms me a little, and loves to play-fight.

If it doesn't amount to affection, she's a damn good actress.
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Old December 18th, 2013 #13
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finally, when a cat presents you with a kill, for instance, a dead bird, it is the highest form of respect, appreciation and affection it can exhibit. after all, why do you give presents to anyone if not out of affection? for example, think of a man presenting a woman with a diamond ring.
Ascribing human attributes to an animal ...

Cats always (almost always, except when they've been 'pussified' and conditioned out of it when they're young) have the instinct to kill.

Cats present kills to people when they're not hungry; or to show off their prowess. (That said, they're not completely autistic; they do have some regard and affection for their 'owners'. They know which side their bread is buttered on.)

I've been presented whole kills by cats, but more often than not, I've been presented the bits of a kill that the cat doesn't want to eat (intestines, wings, feet, head).

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They're carnivores (and the animals they hunt are none too clean to begin with); eating carnivore meat, or being exposed to carnivore excrement, gives people a great chance to be exposed to a good range of parasites and diseases.
 
Old December 18th, 2013 #14
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If the cat pretends to love me that's good enough.
 
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Cats are nasty creatures and don't belong inside the house, IMO.
 
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Ascribing human attributes to an animal ...
you sure it's not the other way around?
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If you have a cat it owns you. you don't own it.
 
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