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Old March 17th, 2012 #41
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The public school system is now the federal government school system.
Academics have been replaced with learning to fornicate with animals
that should be on a farm and not in a class room. Pigs have to walk the
halls to control the Niggabeasts while teacher unions protect Homo
staff from sodomy charges.
Isn't America great.
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Old March 30th, 2012 #42
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I don`t know about other country`s but here in Australia they allowed idiots to become teachers. Years ago to become a teacher, you needed a reasonable pass mark to enter the university course. Now they accept idiots who only just pass high school. When you have idiots teaching,you will get idiots graduating.
Students these days are not taught to question things,they are taught to accept EVERYTHING the media and govt tells them.
 
Old April 2nd, 2012 #43
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Brett Veinotte on Horrors of State-Run Schools and Schooling

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Old April 6th, 2012 #44
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I don`t know about other country`s but here in Australia they allowed idiots to become teachers. Years ago to become a teacher, you needed a reasonable pass mark to enter the university course. Now they accept idiots who only just pass high school. When you have idiots teaching,you will get idiots graduating.
Students these days are not taught to question things,they are taught to accept EVERYTHING the media and govt tells them.
They are changing that, though, thankfully. I only mention this for the sake of accuracy. I was driven out of the school system because of the type of teachers you mention. Ironically, both my parents were teachers, and they didn't disagree with my leaving the system at all. My old man told me it was probably the wisest move. He was constantly at war with the socialists that ran the teachers' union. Funny, because the fucker WAS a socialist, way back in the pre-WW2 years. By the 1970s and 80s, he came to loathe them. In his pasture years, he's currently a 'conservative'. At my mother's recent funeral he accused me of being an 'anti Semite' when the after dinner conversation veered to the possibility of an invasion of Iran. Ha ha. He asked me to leave, which I did.

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Old February 28th, 2013 #45
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Dispelling Some Homeschooling Myths

by Lori R.

The Boston Tea Party was a terrorist act—or so it is characterized in the 6th grade curriculum widely used in my beloved state of Texas. The Pledge of Allegiance—in Arabic? The national anthem—well, some schools have banned it for being “too offensive…” At least the flag is still there—oh, wait, that’s the Mexican flag…Speaking of flags, let’s design a flag—for a new Socialist country. Why is patriotism under attack in America’s public school system?

Better yet, why are kids under attack in America’s public school system? Hugs are banned as a form of sexual harassment, yet condoms and STD screenings are offered at middle schools and high schools. Sex acts go unnoticed in the classroom, worse yet predators posing as teachers go unnoticed in the classroom. School shootings, kids bullied to death, mandatory GPS trackers on school kids, children medicated at younger and younger ages on psychotropic drugs, unfit union teachers who can’t be fired, teachers who refuse to take tests because they don’t measure anything, school officials changing student standardized test answers, and the latest trend—kids being suspended, some even arrested, for brandishing Lego guns, toy guns, bubble guns, drawings of guns, screen saver guns, imaginary guns—really!? These are just a few of the headlines making news lately, and if that’s not enough to make you want to homeschool, I don’t know what is. So as a homeschooling mom to a 9 year old who dang sure knows a terrorist from a patriot, I thought I would share my 2 cents on the subject and dispel some myths:

It has become the norm for American children to attend public school, as their parents did, and as their grandparents did. But it wasn’t always so. Before there were government schools, there were homeschools and homeschool co-ops held in little one-roomed schoolhouses funded and controlled not by the government, but by the parents. And those primitive, humble homeschools produced many of our most cherished American icons and heroes, such as George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Franklin, Abe Lincoln, Teddy Roosevelt, Alexander Hamilton, Patrick Henry, Stonewall Jackson, George Washington Carver, Eli Whitney, Clara Barton, Davy Crockett, Sam Houston, Thomas Paine, Frank Lloyd Wright, Laura Ingalls Wilder, Alexander Graham Bell, the Wright Brothers, Robert E. Lee, Douglas MacArthur, George Patton, and Mark Twain.

But then in the late 19th century, the idea of forced mass education was introduced, and families were told to sacrifice personal liberty for the “good” of the children—sounds like similar arguments being made in favor of gun control today. In “Why Schools Don’t Educate,” John Taylor Gatto, award winning public school teacher and critic of compulsory education, describes the creation of government schools in America: “Our form of compulsory schooling is an invention of the state of Massachusetts around 1850. It was resisted—sometimes with guns—by an estimated eighty percent of the Massachusetts population, the last outpost in Barnstable on Cape Cod not surrendering its children until 1880’s when the area was seized by militia and children marched to school under guard.” From that point forward, literacy rates dropped in the state, and have not since recovered.

So began a new era in American history. And I wonder, how would our Founding Fathers and iconic American heroes have fared in today’s government school system. How would the world have fared? Would Abe Lincoln be told to put away those silly books—they aren’t on this year’s required reading list? Would the Wright brothers be told to stop fiddling with that machine so they could finish their standardized testing? Would George Patton or Robert E. Lee be told to quit playing hero, as it violates the school’s policy on imaginary fighting?

So many of the people who shaped the world were home-educated, and I wonder to what extent their success was shaped by freedom to explore their curiosities and talents and passions.

But such freedom is no longer the norm, even here in “the land of the free.” Now, we have been conditioned to forfeit our freedom and our individual choice, and to hand over more and more of our parental responsibility to the government school system. We have been conditioned to believe we are not capable of educating our own kids, and that our kids are not capable of thinking for themselves. Today, the government education authority, strangers to our children, decide when our children go to school, what they learn, when they learn it, the time allotted to learn it, how they can prove they have learned it, what school they will attend, in which classroom they will sit, which teachers and subjects they will be assigned, when to eat, sometimes what to eat and whether they can even speak during lunch, when they can use the bathroom, what they can wear, and in many cases what to think and believe. After all, between a 7-hour school day, extra-curricular activities and homework, school kids spend more time with their teachers than their parents. School has become the pseudo-parent—sometimes out of necessity, but many times out of convenience—a one-stop shop for raising our children—for education, transportation, day care, meals, health care, sex education, mental health services and counseling, exercise, extra-curricular activities and even socialization.

But more and more families are pushing back, seeking alternate forms of education for their kids. According to the US Department of Education, there are now well over 2 million homeschooled kids nationwide, an increase of over 35% in just 4 years. But it is amazing how little the average person knows about homeschooling. Let’s examine the myths…

Myth: “Isn’t it illegal to homeschool?” No…I’m not a criminal! Actually homeschooling is legal in all 50 states in some form—but beware that each state has its own education laws and regulations. The good news is that almost half of our United States are very homeschool-friendly. Those with virtually no regulation include AK, TX, CT, NJ, ID, OK, MO, IL, IN, and MI. The states that only require notification to the school district of the intent to homeschool include CA, AZ, NV, NM, UT, MT, WY, NB, KS, WS, KY, MS, AL, DE, as well as Washington, D.C. The remaining states have some hoops to jump through with various regulations ranging from home visits to standardized testing to time tracking to curriculum approval. For a complete listing of state homeschooling laws visit www.hslda.org/laws/summary_of_laws. Vote with your feet!

For those parents that are concerned about drawing suspicion from nosy neighbors or authorities that confuse homeschooling with truancy, some good advice can be found at http://www.hsc.org/how-can-homeschoo...rs-or-cps.html. Even here in homeschool-friendly Texas, I tend to keep a low profile during school hours. I avoid taking my son on non-school related errands until after 3 PM just to avoid comments such as “you don’t look sick—why aren’t you in school?” It has also been my experience that families that homeschool from the beginning don’t face as much harassment from the school district as families who withdraw their child, and thus the school’s source of funding.

For peace of mind, consider joining the Homeschool Legal Defense Association (www.hslda.org). For $115 per year, members receive legal advice, court representation, advocacy, conflict resolution, as well as perks such as member discounts, homeschooling advice, and a magazine.

Myth: “Homeschooled kids do not get enough socialization.” Since when is it the government’s job to provide my kid with friends? And since when does going to public school guarantee popularity? We have all known kids that that are lonely, shy, or friendless despite being in a classroom full of other kids day after day, year after year.

There is actually very little socialization occurring at today’s government schools, unless by socialization you mean “indoctrination” or “institutionalization.” Recess is becoming a thing of the past, and even lunch period has become a no talking zone in my local school district, with “silent lunch” in effect. The fact is that today’s schools have very little resemblance to the schooldays you may reminisce about.

But homeschooling is whatever you make it to be. The social opportunities are out there through co-ops, churches, extra-curricular activities, you just have to be motivated enough to get your child involved. How do you find other homeschooled kids? When you are out and about during the day and see other school-aged kids, chances are they are homeschooled—introduce yourself and don’t be afraid to ask questions. Search Google or Yahoo Groups for homeschool groups in your area, and if you don’t find one, start one. Ask your local library or teacher supply store if they know of other homeschooling families. Book sales and churches are another good place to start. As you become involved in extra-curricular activities like scouting or sports, ask around—there are probably other homeschooled kids there, too. Soon enough your calendar will be full of play dates and field trips and park days. Good thing our school day is half the length of the public school day and we don’t have homework—now we actually have much more time to socialize with friends and family—a perfect segue into the next myth...

Myth: “I do not have time to homeschool.” The public school day may last 7 hours, but since when was the government efficient? “We’re not trying to do ‘school at home.” We are trying to do home school. These are two entirely different propositions. We’re not trying to replicate the time, style or content of the classroom. Rather we are trying to cultivate a lifestyle of learning.”—Steve and Jane Lambert

Homeschooling doesn’t have to take all day. Here’s why: My family homeschools year round. We do not take off for 3 months during summer, or for 2 weeks in winter or a week in spring, or for Columbus Day or early release days or snow days or teacher in-service days. Therefore we can afford to spend fewer hours per day, spread out over more days per year, and we do not have to make up for learning lost over long holidays. When the weather is nice and most kids are busy in school, we can take off and spend more time outdoors and on field trips, without the crowds and Texas heat.

We have a one-to-one student to teacher ratio, with no distractions. We do not have to budget time during our school day for busy work, lunch, recess, safety drills, roll call, morning announcements, standardized testing or test prep, bathroom breaks, changing classes, lining up, wasted substitute teacher days, bus routes or special assemblies. There is no red tape in the way of our homeschooling (at least in Texas). As a result, we have no homework.

We do not impose artificial timelines or time limits. We have a list of lessons to complete each day, and it takes as long as it takes. Some tasks we breeze through, in which case my son isn’t punished with busy work as he might be at school. Others tasks may take a little longer, and that’s OK--I have the freedom to flex something off the list when need be. My son has learned that if he lollygags, that means less free time, so he has an incentive to stay focused. The beauty of homeschooling is that we can focus on knowledge rather than grades or unnecessary work. When he gets it, he gets it.

With that being said, I spend about 4 hours per day homeschooling my son, as well as a few hours each weekend preparing for the coming week. We spend about 2 hours in the morning with lessons in civics, math and geography. After a lunch break, we spend another 2 hours or so on reading, writing, spelling, grammar and history. Science happens all the time. In addition to those hours, we have been active with a homeschool group which offers weekly social activities, and my son is always enrolled in at least one extra curricular activity, such as swimming lessons, day camps, zoo classes or Tae Kwon Do. When I’m not feeling well my son is allowed to use educational software on the computer, but I prefer old-fashioned pencil and paper work.

Myth: “I am not a teacher, therefore I am not qualified to homeschool my kids.” “There is no school equal to a decent home and no teacher equal to a virtuous parent.” –Mahatma Gandhi

Legally speaking most parents are qualified to homeschool. According to the Home School Legal Defense Association, “forty-one states do not require homeschool parents to meet any specific teacher qualifications. The other nine states require only a high school diploma or GED and include GA, NC, ND, NM, OH, PA, SC, TN and WV.” For more information visit www.hslda.org/laws/summary_of_laws.

For skeptics who believe that parents aren’t qualified teachers—if graduating from the government school system renders people incapable of teaching their own children, what does that say about the system? I graduated from high school with honors, went on to earn my Bachelor’s degree and Master’s degree, yet, until recently, I couldn’t name all the presidents or states, I couldn’t have told you anything about the War of 1812 other than it had something to do with the year 1812…My tests scores did not reflect my mastery of each subject or lack thereof, but rather my mastery of taking tests! A decent short term memory was enough to get me a seat in the National Honor Society. So the bottom line is even though I don’t have a degree in public education, I’m pretty sure I couldn’t do any worse.

As a homeschooling parent I know what my son has learned, I know his strengths and struggles--I have been there each step of the way. In contrast, a friend of mine doesn’t know whether her child has learned the states or where he is on a map because she leaves it to the school to teach him those things. It’s as if it is none of her business. Educating my son is my #1 business, and through research I have learned that there is no “one size fits all” method of education. Children have different learning styles, different strengths and weakness, and there is only so much a classroom environment can do to accommodate a room full of individuals. But homeschooling can be adapted to the individual child, and who knows that child better than his or her own parents? Parents are always their children’s first teachers, and homeschooling is just an extension of that. Homeschooling allows us as parents to provide consistency, rather than changing teachers from year to year or class to class. And for those subjects that we struggle to teach or that our kids struggle to learn, we can always do a little homework or ask for help.

Partner with other homeschoolers: One of the best resources that we have is other parents in the homeschool community, whether locally or on-line. There are endless opportunities for on-line discussion groups and forums. When I find myself struggling with something, Google usually finds an answer, or at least something different I could try. Joining a local homeschool group or co-op is invaluable for support and advice and even pooling resources and skills for joint classes or private tutoring led by parents in their areas of expertise.

Partner with community resources: There are endless learning opportunities right in your own backyard for PE (martial arts classes, gymnastics classes, tennis lessons, swim lessons, YMCA or city league sports clubs , public pools, walking trails, parks), fine arts (art competitions, art festivals, art museums, lessons at Michael's/Hobby Lobby, community theatre, acting camps, piano lessons, community band, church/community choir, orchestra performances, dance performances/lessons, photography workshops), scouting, science (zoos, wildlife refuges, nature preserves, state park presentations, 4H, museums, planetariums, farm and factory tours, TV weather station tours), history (re-enactment events, museums, renaissance fairs, heritage festivals, historical building tours, living history events), social studies (cultural celebrations, parades, museums and events), civics (voting, welcome home soldier events, public rallies, patriotic events, museums, memorials, tours of post office, fire station, etc, volunteering), language arts (book clubs, read alouds at libraries and book stores, literacy councils, spelling bees, writing competitions), geography (geo-bees, geocaching), not to mention summer camps and workshops in every subject under the sun. So, you see, it is quite easy to take the “home” right out of homeschooling. There are countless internet and software resources available for learning everything from foreign language to flight simulators.

Myth: “We can’t afford to live on one income.” Or, more eloquently stated, “We didn’t have the luxury for her not to work.”–President Barrack Obama…OK, first of all, not all homeschooling families have a full-time, stay-at-home parent/teacher. Some families have one parent that works part time or from home. Other families have two parents that work opposite shifts so that someone is always home with the children. Second of all, being a stay-at-home mom is not a luxury—it is a sacrifice. We chose to sacrifice my career, half of our family income, and most of our luxuries so that I could stay home with my son, so that I could provide him with a home education and avoid government schools, and so that we could move to a country “retreat” full time and raise a few homestead animals. It’s not that we can afford to do this, it is that we can not afford not to. There is a huge difference.

The bottom line is that while it is true that you can’t maintain a two income lifestyle on one income, there are ways you can make one income work. What would you be willing to give up?

We have gotten our monthly budget down to $2100 per month for our family of 3. Notice what is not in our budget:

No government assistance—although we would probably qualify, we are not on food stamps or any other government subsidy.

No dream house—after years of searching, we found a 750 square foot, 3-room cabin on 9 acres of land in farm country about 15 minutes from a small town. We got rid of at least half of our belongings and kept only our most cherished possessions. We heat only with a wood burning stove and cool with window units—there is no central heat or air.
Our mortgage of $430 is cheaper than the monthly rent of $495 at a travel trailer campground a few miles down the road!

No car payments—we own two older model 4 wheel drive vehicles. The cost of maintaining them is much cheaper than purchasing a newer car, plus the insurance is cheaper. Again, no bells and whistles.

No toys—no boats, RVs, motorcycles, 4 wheelers…

No jewelry.

No credit cards—we have learned to live within our means and pay cash for what we need. Otherwise we do without or save up.

No manicures, pedicures, massages, waxes, facials. My beauty routine involves a $13 haircut maybe 4 times a year. My husband and son cut their hair at home.

Very low clothing allowance--most of our clothing comes from Goodwill (yes—you can get good looking clothes there for $1-4 per piece! Military gear is also a steal and much cheaper than at Army/Navy stores, ranging from $1 for hats to $5 for BDU, especially at Halloween). Occasionally we will buy clothes on deep clearance sales, usually off season. I don’t go window shopping. I don’t go to the mall or department stores.

No trash service--we burn our own trash in a pit in the ground.

No travel budget—we can’t afford to travel, which is just as well, because we can’t afford to pay for a pet sitter! It’s one thing to ask a neighbor to feed your dogs or cats. It’s another thing altogether to ask your neighbor to milk your goat! Something
to think about!!

No expensive hobbies or entertainment—we do not have internet at home—we have not found a good rural internet option that we can afford. Instead we use the limited internet access on our cell phones, and take the laptop into a town once a week for free wi-fi at fast food restaurants (on a laptop that does not contain our personal info). We do not have I-pads or I-pods or any of those gadgets. We do not go to the movies—instead we rent movies for $1.30 at the red box. My husband doesn’t golf or go to sporting events or go on hunting trips with his buddies. I don’t do girls’ night out, or facebook, blog, twitter, scrapbook, or read trashy novels or magazines or watch soap operas. We do watch TV (cheapest package available, no DVR, no high-definition), read books, play board games and card games, and spend time outdoors. We eat out maybe once or twice a month, and we take advantage of Kids Eat Free nights in our area.
Veterinary care—we have learned to provide most vet care for our animals, including giving injections, assisting in birth and newborn care, administering antibiotics, using a drench gun to provide fluids or liquid medications. We do visit a mobile vet clinic which offers rabies shots for $10 each—most vets in the area charge an office visit fee of at least $30 just to get you in the door...

No expensive home security system—a fence and locked gate, 3 large dogs, 2 x 4s held against the door with barn door bar holders, and guns are our home security system…
No expensive gifts—we have officially withdrawn from the holiday rat race. We do buy gifts for our son, but not for extended family members. We do offer gifts of homemade goat milk soaps and fresh farm foods, but so far those gifts haven’t been appreciated…
I guess extreme couponing would be an option for some, but my local grocery store has put a stop to that. There is not a bulk warehouse in my neck of the woods either.

How’s that for luxury, folks? I think Michelle just might have me beat. But I wouldn’t have it any other way.

Myth: “Public school is free--we can’t afford to homeschool.” According to the Census Bureau, on average it costs American taxpayers over $10,000 to send one child to public school for one year. What a rip off! Homeschooling families pay those public education taxes even though their children do not attend public school. They must then purchase their own homeschool materials and supplies out of pocket, which are not tax deductible. Luckily, unless you run your homeschool like a bloated bureaucracy, it doesn’t have to cost a fortune. Here’s the nitty gritty:

School Discards: It is amazing what our tax-funded government schools throw away. Every so often schools review and update their materials and discard old inventory and even brand new sample materials and library books, either by throwing them away or donating them. I once received a whole car load of brand new or slightly used textbook sets including workbooks and teacher guides spanning multiple grade levels and multiple subjects—all for free, including expensive brands such as Saxon math. Contact your local district to determine a contact person and schedule for curriculum dumping—they will often be glad to give the books to a good home. Also, when a new school is built to the take the place of an existing school, or when a school is scheduled for major remodeling, or when a school’s technology is updated, or at the end of the school year/beginning of summer break, you can bet they will be cleaning house. This is a good time to keep an eye on dumpsters. We have pulled art prints, textbooks, workbooks, even TVs and overhead projectors from the dumpster. A find well worth the embarrassment of dumpster diving! Get permission if needed in your area.

Garage Sale Leftovers: Garage sales are great, homeschool/teacher garage/retirement sales are even better, and free garage sale leftovers are the best! Local newspapers sometimes offer searchable classified listings on-line to help you narrow your search to keywords “teacher” or “school” or “homeschool.” I have made it a habit to purchase a few things, introduce myself, and then ask for any leftovers that they might want to get rid of after the sale. If they are planning to donate or toss, they may as well give it away to a family that will gratefully use it. I’ve received two car loads of free books and supplies that way. Best of all, most of the maps, posters, charts, etc. are already laminated, which can be very costly.

Bulk Trash—some of the towns in our area host a free bulk-item pick up once or twice a year. This is a great time to do some treasure hunting! We have picked up desks, bookshelves, encyclopedias and other school supplies, as well as household items such as metal bunk beds, toys, toy boxes, etc.

Swap Meets: Organize a swap meet with other local homeschooling families to trade books, games or other materials that your children have outgrown or that you do not want. This is also a good way to trade any multiples that you may have received in classroom sets obtained from schools or teachers. Many homeschooling families do not write in textbooks or workbooks so they can be passed down to younger siblings, and then eventually resold or swapped.

Free On-Line Resources: The internet can be an invaluable resource for lesson plans, worksheets, printables, arts and crafts, videos, discussion groups, live web-cams, etc.
Don’t forget on-line resources such as CraigsList and Freecycle for give-aways. I received a huge ocean collection of coral, shells, starfish, seahorses, even a stuffed shark from a woman who just needed to make room in her house. The collection is actually better than that offered at our local children’s science museum!

Homeschool Tracker (www.homeschooltracker.com) offers a free record keeping download that allows you to schedule assignments, record grades and field trips, generate report cards and attendance records, track time spent, log books read and resources used, etc.

Search for free classroom or homeschool materials, promotions and give-aways. I have been sent free posters, DVDs, etc. Most giveaways marketed for schools are also available for homeschoolers. Office Max once offered free laminating to teachers, which they extended to homeschoolers.

The world is our classroom. Mother Nature is a wonderful resource for free learning materials, and what better way to learn than to collect and examine specimens first hand rather than looking at illustrations in books. Turtle shells, feathers, nests, bones, skulls, leaves, plants, insects, etc. line our shelves. Of course, observation and appreciation of nature do not have to take up space on a shelf. Homesteading offers many opportunities to witness science first hand, from sky and weather observation to life-cycles, birth and reproduction, to anatomy lessons at chicken cleaning time.
Catalog of Ideas: My local teacher supply store, which is very expensive, offers free catalogues. A quick search through the over-priced products has given me ideas for things I could make rather than purchase.

Free field trips--Many museums offer a free day each month during a low-traffic time (free on the first Wednesday of each month, for example). Call around or check web sites for public free days. Our local symphony offers free admission to the last rehearsal performance before opening day and encourages families with squirmy kids to attend then, so the paying audience won’t be disrupted. Our local art museum offers free family days on one Saturday each month, with children’s art activities as well as free museum admission and tours. Many places offer free open house dates from time to time—take advantage.

Low Cost Resources

Low cost field trips—

Most museums, zoos, etc offer discounted group rates, so coordinate with other homeschool families to take advantage of discounts.

Many museums, zoos, and even some amusement parks in larger cities now offer annual or semi-annual homeschool days with special exhibits, shows and pricing.

School shows—some symphonies, ballets, theatres, renaissance fairs, etc offer school performance shows which are closed to the public and deeply discounted. Usually homeschooling families are welcomed. We have attended the symphony and ballet for as little as $3 per person. School shows usually occur at the same time each year, so plan ahead to get tickets before they sell out.

Family Memberships—many museums and zoos offer family memberships that are well worth the price if you plan to visit often.

Thrift stores, library sales, garage sales and fundraiser book sales, although not free, have been a great resource for very low cost books, games, supplies, and videos. I typically pay 25 cents to 50 cents each for paperback readers or educational magazines such as national geographic magazines, and $1-2 each for hardback books, textbooks, computer software, DVDs/videos, workbooks, and other resources such as flashcards or educational games.

As a last resort, shop retail sales. Stock up on school supplies only after the back-to-school rush is over and supplies go on clearance. The Dollar Tree chain store offers a teacher supply section that includes charts, posters, timelines, maps, reward stickers, bulletin board decorations, etc., as well as school supplies for, obviously, $1 each!

Plan ahead. Do not wait until the last minute. I have been stockpiling school books and supplies since my son was an infant, and it is amazing how quickly they have come in handy.

Myth: “Homeschoolers are white, right-wing, religious extremists.” Heck they’re probably a bunch of preppers, too! The demographics of the homeschooling population is ever changing, as are the reasons for homeschooling, which do include religion and politics, but also concerns over school safety and security, overcrowding, bullying, privacy, poor school performance, and just your basic freedom of choice. Across the country, you can find homeschool groups geared toward children with special needs, only children, secular families, teens, Native American families wishing to preserve their culture, Muslim families—and yes, even Christians and preppers! Concern about the government school system is universal.

Myth: Homeschooling is a cover for parents that are too lazy to take their kids to school. There may be a few bad apples in the barrel, but homeschools must be doing something right. Homeschooled kids continue to outperform their public school peers. And according to a report by US News, “students coming from a homeschool graduated college at a higher rate than their peers and earned higher grade point averages along the way.” Homeschooled children have also fared well in academic competitions. According to the Homeschool Legal Defense Association, “although homeschoolers make up approximately 2% of the US school-age population, they made up 12 % of the 251 National Spelling Bee finalists, and 5% of the 55 National Geography Bee finalists. Three of the past seven spelling bee winners have been homeschooled. Last year’s homeschooled winner of the geography bee was 10 years old, the youngest in that event’s history.”

Conclusion

So if it is cheaper, more efficient and more effective to homeschool our kids, what is the purpose of government schools? A chilling quote from John Gatto: “Divide children by subject, by age-grading, by constant rankings on tests, and by many other more subtle means and it was unlikely that the ignorant mass of mankind, separated in childhood, would ever reintegrate into a dangerous whole…Mandatory education serves children only incidentally; its real purpose is to turn them into servants. If David Farragut could take command of a captured British warship as a preteen, if Thomas Edison could publish a broadsheet at the age of twelve, if Ben Franklin could apprentice himself to a printer at the same age, there’s no telling what your own kids could do. After a long life, and thirty years in the public school trenches, I’ve concluded that genius is as common as dirt. We suppress our genius only because we haven’t yet figured out how to manage a population of educated men and women. The solution, I think, is simple and glorious. Let them manage themselves.”

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Old August 9th, 2013 #46
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Common Core Exams: New York Schools Get an F

By Gary North

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August 9, 2013

The so-called common core standards will not survive. That’s because public school students can’t pass the tests.

New York State got the test results. Across the state, 69% could not pass in English, and the same was true for math. It was worse in New York City.

Last year, with easier exams, 55% passed. So, the much-heralded core curriculum tests have exposed the schools as massive failures. This will not be allowed to continue. Either the tests will be made easier or else the tests will be abandoned. Count on it. No test is ever allowed to expose tax-funded bureaucrats as total incompetents, year after year.

Candidates for mayor blame Mayor Bloomberg. But mayors have no say in education. The education bureaucracy is untouchable.

No one knows what to do. They are in panic mode.

Watch the videos. Parents are outraged. School officials are in hunker-down mode.

The top educational official in the country is the Secretary of Education. She says this: no problem! Parents should not be alarmed, she says. The test results will “give a clear picture of where our students are on the trajectory toward college and career readiness.” Yes, they do. The kids are not ready.

Then, she added, don’t blame tax-funded education. No, no, no. “The lower proficiency rates that we will see . . . do not reflect that teachers are teaching less or students are learning less.”

The tests in fact show that the dumbed-down tests before gave a misleading picture. They did not reveal the total failure of today’s tax-funded schools. The new tests do.

Watch the videos. No one knows what to do.

The first video shows that the reporter can’t do math. He says the scores were down 25% to 30%. The scores were down 25 to 30 percentage points, not percent. They were down from about 55% pass to 30% pass. That is a decline of 45%.

http://www.lewrockwell.com/2013/08/g...ublic-schools/
 
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administrative bloat - public schooling is much more expensive than homeschooling

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There is another difference between the old days of the blue back speller and McGuffey's Readers. Today, children begin school when they are six or seven years old. They are too young! Their physical brain has not developed sufficiently to grasp much of anything taught in any school.

If a child begins elementary school at age 12, he can learn in one year all that it now takes him 6 years to learn beginning school at age 7. Elementary school can be reduced to one year if a child begins school at age 12. He will also have already learned (picked-up) reading and writing from his parents and friends. And what need has a child to be educated before he is 12 years old?

How long does it take for a fully mature adult to obtain a G.E.D.? One year?

Why teach a 16 year-old Latin?

Why educate negroes?

Which would be more beneficial: learning foreign languages and taking courses in rhetoric, or learning about natural law and shamans?

Why is it that culture and refinement are always the culture and refinement of a foreign country, of another people?

I wasted two years of high school taking French. It was all about college prep. I went to the University of Texas in 1965. Do you know what you get from Liberal Arts? You get arty liberals. I went to business college where there were no hippies. But my economics teacher was a Marxist and my elective was sociology. The teacher was a real air-head fruit cake Liberal. I quit and ended up in Viet Nam. Nice place to be from.

The only real education anyone ever gets is from the school of hard knocks.


God, I wanna rep this 10 times over. I am a big proponent of later based schooling.
 
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Socialization is a rationalization dreamed up by the NEA after being routed on test scores so bad they couldn't keep up pretenses any longer. Socialization is the professional burrocrats' fallback position in their defensive war to keep their excessive pay and freedom compared to people who work for a living.

I could never ever understood this argument.
 
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I could never ever understood this argument.
It was never honestly presented. And it's factually wrong anyway. HS are better socialized because they mix with other age groups while public school kids are limited to their peers.

The NEA can't claim its kids are better educated - test comparisons always show HS come out well ahead. So, embarrassed, the NEA's fallback position is, well, that's because we have to take all comers. And anyway, HS kids are little weirdos who are socially maladjusted because their bible-nut or otherwise wacko parents hate them and keep them out of public school. But the studies show HS are MORE mature than PS, are BETTER EDUCATED and just in general are ahead on pretty much any index of adulthood or intellectual progress you care to mention.

The NEA position is simply the best lie that professional union can come up with. The media always back the NEA. And you will find NEA teachers using its arguments in real life.

Public schooling should be abolished. It is blank tyranny, as it exists today, and what's more, it was intended that way, it is that way by its nature, and it cannot be otherwise. Public schooling is essentially a form of grooming the state undertakes to brainwash tykes in state-supporting ideology. This is why it's so hard to break through to people when explaining stuff like why having the government run health care or regulate stuff is such a bad idea - their whole life, all they've heard on tv and in school is the exact opposite, and it's very hard for them to break free of their programming. Even if they break free in one area, race, they're still usually stuck firm in the others.
 
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Not to mention, what socialization you do get in public schools is 90% negative. God forbid you are one of the majority that is not popular or big. If you are small, or in any way weird, or not overly likable, you will get the fuck picked out of you in public schools. Almost everyone who's not a football player or cheerleader experiences this, and it is utterly miserable. Yet even this, to the extent it is acknowledged is treated as a good thing by the cheerleaders for this professional assocation of clown-tyrants, the NEA.

Yeah, I don't think people getting seared by contact with vicious, aggressive assholes when they're too young or small to handle it actually is a good thing. I think it's a bad thing. Kids who are HS don't know the misery of not being able to find a bus seat, of people not letting them sit down, of being picked on, getting insulted or beaten up -- and I'm not even talking about the racial stuff. Public school entails a lot of misery for kids, and adults simply overlook this. There is a reason so many kids go to the great extreme of taking guns to school and shooting people. If they are like that, you can guarantee there are literally millions suffering in silence.

Public schooling is child abuse, and should be abolished yesterday.
 
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Yet even this, to the extent it is acknowledged is treated as a good thing by the cheerleaders for this professional assocation of clown-tyrants, the NEA.

Yeah, I don't think people getting seared by contact with vicious, aggressive assholes when they're too young or small to handle it actually is a good thing. I think it's a bad thing. Kids who are HS don't know the misery of not being able to find a bus seat, of people not letting them sit down, of being picked on, getting insulted or beaten up -- and I'm not even talking about the racial stuff. Public school entails a lot of misery for kids, and adults simply overlook this. There is a reason so many kids go to the great extreme of taking guns to school and shooting people. If they are like that, you can guarantee there are literally millions suffering in silence.

It's amazing such "educational" methods were at all, "tolerated", for over 100 years! Why in the fuck did they do it? My only guess is that the sheer economic inequality in White America of 1900 made them deseparate enough to. The days when your first 3 kids by your wife died of typhus and you'd hope the next 2 would make it into adulthood, and you saved up half your income to purchase a new horse every 5 years over a long savings term.

I think the "Grin and Bear It" hyper-masculinized attitude of the 1950s contributed it's share of motivation into it too.

And the more I think about it, the more respect for the WW2 generation slowly chips away .
 
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It should be obvious by now that schools are just centers for indoctrinating white people in multiculturalism and political correctness. Instead of giving their hard-earned tax dollars to a government that is using the funds to finance white dispossession and then complaining about it afterward, whites should be taking their children out of the schools now and educating them at home.
 
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This isn't precisely socialization, but when kids talk about this stuff, it becomes that. This is the sort of garbage - precocious sexuality, which is promiscuity propaganda masquerading as education, that your kids will be exposed to in public schools.



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...LE-SCHOOL.html

The judeo-left calls it education, but it's not. It's propaganda. Designed by the Frankfurt school to undermine white morals. Then you have Hollywood mocking what I just said, in a million movies like Hairspray or Porky's - anyone concerned with morals, anyone touching on the actual dangers in sex, drugs and rock 'n' roll is treated as a oldy who just doesn't get it. This is all by design. It all dovetails.

You never get the actual facts about anything in the jew-controlled mass media. You have to dig them out for yourselves.

You sure as hell aren't going to learn the actual facts about homosexual behavior in "sex education." Rather, you're going to get propaganda. You're going to be told how you are supposed to feel about queers. That theirs is just an alternative kind of love, deserving of the same respect as the normal kind.

School, since at least the times of Dewey, in the 1920s, has been about socialization - encouraging groupthink, conformity, team spirit, attitude coordination - rather than intellectual development. Public school is the state's attempt to get everyone to think the way it wants them to think. To become cogs in the system, or at least not active opponents. Premature exposure to heavy-duty sexual graphics and images desensitizes people, leads them to do sexual things they're too young for, messes up their lives. Basically, public schools - where the elite NEVER send their own children - are there to fuck up lives and reduce competition for the top spots.
 
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Basically, public schools - where the elite NEVER send their own children - are there to fuck up lives and reduce competition for the top spots.

This is another that eats away quickly on my patience.

Why don't we see Liberals fighting for the elite education they have at the super exclusive, hyper-expensive private schools, and old ones, like Phillips Exeter, Andover, or Rosemary-Choate, to bring to the masses? Why not share the golden knowledge meant to uplift all of "Mankind" out of the Darkness of Ignorance? I thought we were all equal?!
 
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The case is very compelling when looking at the numbers that were offered up by one of the first reply posts. If you can give your kids 2/3 hours subject time every day then your child gets more hours by a long way than a kid at school.

Now all the kids for access to the internet via tablet, phone laptop etc so the argument is how much time on a device is good for a child? What does a child miss in a social sense from just being around adults?

Kids all learn things at different ages and at different rates. Not all kids start walking at 10 months and 15 days, so as a parent how are we to know when our child is ready to learn, say writing. Is it just that we give them the opportunity by reading with them and drawing letters and by themselves they will find a way... or is it just download some app that teaches kids to write and have them play that several times a week.

Do we as home schoolers give the computer more value than spending quality time with our kids? Surely kids will want to play games and such on a device not learn, how does one control that?
 
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The case is very compelling when looking at the numbers that were offered up by one of the first reply posts. If you can give your kids 2/3 hours subject time every day then your child gets more hours by a long way than a kid at school.
HS do more real teaching in FEWER hours than PS do in MORE hours. This is because the real motive of PS isn't teaching but controlling. Genuine instruction in the basics takes 100 hours. That's all. From there you can self-teach. Of course, many will have much more to HS, but that's all that's required to get across the 3Rs, which takes PS years to do.

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Now all the kids for access to the internet via tablet, phone laptop etc so the argument is how much time on a device is good for a child? What does a child miss in a social sense from just being around adults?
The kid misses nothing. Bad habits come from peers, not adults. In school, they're only around their own age. What's best for them is to be around all ages. HS are better socialized than PS - in direct contradiction of PS claims coming from the NEA.

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Kids all learn things at different ages and at different rates. Not all kids start walking at 10 months and 15 days, so as a parent how are we to know when our child is ready to learn, say writing. Is it just that we give them the opportunity by reading with them and drawing letters and by themselves they will find a way... or is it just download some app that teaches kids to write and have them play that several times a week.
I would think by working with them you'll be able to tell when they're ready. Or ask them. Read to them, soon enough they should be showing interest. Teach the letters and the sounds they make. Why not work all ways, no need for just one. But phonics should be included. The key is the association of the letter with the sound(s) it makes. That's the code they need to grasp to learn to read. Once they have it they can "sound out" new words.

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Do we as home schoolers give the computer more value than spending quality time with our kids? Surely kids will want to play games and such on a device not learn, how does one control that?
Computers are good for rote stuff. Like learning vocabulary and such. Limit kids by doing what your parents did re tv, telling you it's a nice day, go play outdoors. Christ, we were hardly allowed to watch tv at all. Not being allowed to watch tv will turn marginal kids into readers, which is good. As for tablets and stuff, if you're going to own these, it's harder to keep them away from kids, I suppose.
 
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Do we as home schoolers give the computer more value than spending quality time with our kids? Surely kids will want to play games and such on a device not learn, how does one control that?
You control it by doing your duty as a parent. You teach them that the computer/internet is there as a learning tool. You teach them that if they get cyber bullied, there is an off switch and that they should use it. Always remember, you are the parent, so its up to you to teach them that tv and facebook are not real life, that the world does not revolve around having 10,000 friends on facebook.
 
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