National Socialism And The White Nationalist Movement

[Joe_J.]

[QUOTE]

Originally Posted by NIM Buster #666

I think you will find a better version here

http://www.adolfhitler.ws/lib/nsdap/docs/nsdap.html

look under Party Program

Thanks. Will do.

I grew up in a racist family and one thing is certain, they would not spit on a Nazi, their view being Hitler declared war on the USA, thus he and Nazism became the enemy.They went to war and fought and died fighting Nazis, and be damned if they were going to support them.

For my 2 cents every person who puts on his Nazi costume and parades around spits in the face of the US combat vet.

The WN will never succeed under the swastika, it does more harm than good.

Personally, I think that everyone that puts on a uniform or sports the Swastika spits in the face of a jew.

Yes, Hitler did declare war on the US. He blundered in allying himself with the Jap. Now, we can also open a can of worms about jew involvement in the war and the utter stupidity of Whites fighting other Whites.

Luckily, my family members were too old or too young to have served in WWII. Only one served in WWI in France. I won't discredit our vets, but both world wars were the handiwork of the jew and a waste of the lives of Whites, no matter what side they were on.

[MW88...]

May I say don't talk to me and German NS kampfers about your US "combat vet", who fought for the Jews and Jew-Bolshevik untermensch against the resurgence of our people.

Idiot!

"US Combat vet" you were mislead, brainswashed fighting for the Jews and if you don't see that you are doomed. You combat vets now in Iraq are fighing for the Jews also. It makes me angry. My grandfather on the Eastern Front for so many months doing things that make us proud and some idiot here saying his sacrifice is not worthy?

He knew what the Jew-Bolsheviks wanted and did you know how much they attacked and raped the German women in 1945-1946? And my grandfather told of massacres of German SS by the Americans too. The Jews wanted the same thing then as now - destroy our people, as the reds say, by any means necessary?

National Socialism is a racial creed for us all. Forget the national and think Global White Resistance.

[Dietrich]

[QUOTE=deathtozog]

Now the jew is pushing the anti-union, "New World Order" side of the issue. They have made the union superflous by working around it. Unions don't even fit in the equation anymore. A company can simply move to China or Mexico where unions are not a concern.

The jew is now anti-union because it is now on the "management" side of the equation.

[Dietrich]

Originally Posted by Alex Linder

Hitler was a tad prissy in certain respects: no drinking, no smoking, no meat.

Not to re-fight relics of WWII, but the Roman Army conquered the world as vegetarians. Once, ~200BCE when food rations were low and only meat was available, the army nearly deserted until they were restocked with grains.

Drinking and smoking? Heck, the brain is a tree and it needs pruning.

Off to prune,

Theseus

[Dietrich]

Originally Posted by deathtozog

The commies would crawl out of the woodwork and the crackhouses and try to stage their own revolution. It takes a careful hand...

I only chime in here because this is a subject on which I have done a little research.

Put quickly: the anarchists, nigs, communists, crackheads, etc are not a viable force in the event of political breakdown. The anarchists and communists will go with whomever is winning because in reality they are cowards.

The nigs? They are simply unable to mount and sustain the type of disciplined effort that is required in keeping a tempo of operations at a point where they are a viable threat. I did a few thought-experiments after reading CWII, and it is very hard to come up with a scenerio where blacks add up to anything approaching a viable fighting force. In the book, they have their own de facto nation, with artillery. Come now--giving niggers artillery is something you would do after popping popcorn so you could watch them kill themselves. And that is exactly what would happen. The African cult of the "Big Man" would give way to inter-tribal killing because he is too centralized and too easy to take out of the equation.

Ultimately, Whites have a shared sense of what "civilization" is, and after weeks of no media, touch-and-go communications, and the like, and all this mess is stripped away, that will be what unites a trucker from Oregon and an intellectual in Virginia. Blacks do not have this, and we all know it.

Beyond the odd gang here or there, the danger from this lot will be of spontaneous violence and intermittant sabotage. Don't let popular media fool you--these are the same people who you see in old movies going "I's sacaed!"

In summary, blacks aren't shit and we shouldn't automatically assume they're going to turn into some disciplined fighting force if someone takes their welfare checks away. Blacks will hide when they hear gunfire and will wait patiently to be found.

Yours,

Theseus

edit: I did not mean to come off so "over-authoritative" on that one. Sorry, I just got done with a huge job of analysis on a paper and I'm burned . . . out. I welcome comments, disagreements, mitigating circumstances I've left out, etc.

[Anchorage Activist]

Originally Posted by billwhite

* Enact segregation; dissolve all inter-racial marriages; re-criminalize race-mixing; sterilize mulattos; enact incentives to repatriate American blacks in Africa.

* End the US war in Iraq; support white nationalist movements in Europe and the general European liberation countries; focus foreign intervention on restoring Southern Africa to white rule and to resettle the black population of that part of the continent.

It would be nice to restore Southern Africa to white rule, but blacks now outnumber whites 15-1. It would also be a costly endeavour, and there's no guarantee a future generation of South Africa whites wouldn't piss it away again like the current generation did.

How about exchanging American blacks for South African whites? Make this as voluntary as possible. This could even go so far as a direct household-to-household exchange, in which all parties would have instant accomodation upon their arrival. In some cases, they could even directly exchange jobs. Can you imagine how a mere 10,000 South African whites could revitalize Detroit (assuming you got rid of the kaffirs)?

[centerfire]

Originally Posted by Theseus

Put quickly: the anarchists, nigs, communists, crackheads, etc are not a viable force in the event of political breakdown. The anarchists and communists will go with whomever is winning because in reality they are cowards.

I'm not so sure they'd switch sides. The fact that they are fighting on the side of political correctness in the age of political correctness and that they are fighting against the interests of their own people (referring strictly to the white ones) shows what cowards they are. Stupid cowards at that! The fuckers are politically correct revolutionaries!

[Dietrich]

Originally Posted by centerfire

I'm not so sure they'd switch sides. The fact that they are fighting on the side of political correctness in the age of political correctness and that they are fighting against the interests of their own people (referring strictly to the white ones) shows what cowards they are. Stupid cowards at that! The fuckers are politically correct revolutionaries!

They're against their own because it is an easier channel for their little emotions. Alex as alluded to this before, saying something like -- "Antis treat us like we're blowing the curve and causing black behavior."

They, on some level, know (for instance) that blacks are dangerous. They're too cowardly to call them on it because they're afraid. Indeed, the entire "Great Society" is just protection money, extracted from the upper and middle class by the elites to pay 'groids not to riot.

You are missing some key components of what makes a person worth a damn when fighting starts and I tell you--it is clear that American "commies" are insignifigant as a rabble. This would mean something if they were greater than ~60% total population, but they are not.

Notice a trend in the nature of political upheaval in the context of the nation-state: Intellectual movements "get the ball rolling," so to speak, but things only take off when the relatively pro-regime base of the populace bolts the mainstream. Commies know this. This is why they are elietist as hell but go on about "the workers." Communism, during this phase, is simply a rhetorical tool used by meglomaniacs to change regimes.

Now, ask yourself: Who are the political center of the American communist/anarchist rabble? They're the college wankers at the WTO rallies who will order a latte' at Star bucks on the way to a protest and will throw a brick through it's storefront on the way out. They're just punks who don't like to bathe. They couldn't survive without 100% working system services. They, as a whole, deplore guns and indeed appear to have an emotionally ingrained fear of them.

No, "Anarchy" and "communism" in the United States is a fashion statement rather than a force, and they will clean up quite well when it's fashionable/legal to point and laugh at their sorry asses.

[Alex Linder]

1.Sure the market may produce some "riches" and some wealth.But this is not the point.Left alone all of these "riches" and this wealth will go into the pockets of the few, namely the capitalist pigs.

These lies were stale 150 years ago. You resent that some have more than you. The fact is, even the poor are rich in capitalist society, and if they have anything on the ball, they don't stay poor long. You advocate a system that impovershes and controls everybody but the ruling elite - exactly what you claim you're against. You hate rich people because because you believe they didn't earn it. Usually that is not the case - most rich people worked a hell of a lot harder than most poor.

The working masses who practicaly produced this wealth will remain empty handed.Its logical then that the profits of the market have to be controlled at least to a point by the state.

Yes, that was the communist theory, but the workers en masse decided for capitalism - every single time it's been put to the test.

In the past,in the pre-Globalization era, the democratic state and the unions where primary responsible for the redistribution of this produced wealth so that the working masses would profit to a point from this.

Yes, and all that did was make sure there was less to go around, because the state would seize profits from producers.

Today,Globalization-era, the democratic state has proved corrupt and the unions unable to defend the "redistribution" rights of the working masses.

The corruption of the state lies precisely in its redistribution to the masses. The more dumb, brown people, the safer the ruling jew/white socialists. They steal from white producers and give to colored sponges.

2.Apart from all that,the national socialist state will also have to make sure that even the family-oriented business will not "produce wealth" by harming the "health" of the Volk.You named interracial sex for example.I could add tabaco,and enviroment-polluting industries etc. to it.

Polluting is an inevitable byproduct of indoor living. We all share in it, not a guilty minority. The market can solve pollution problems better than government.

Considering now points 1 and 2 how could a decentralized "small",weak and unbeaurocratic state handle these problems.This is ridiculous.
No! What is needed is a strong,all-powerfull,authoritarian,centralized National Socialist state.

Your religious faith in government is misplaced. Average people are capable of working out most of their problems. Government makes problems worse by trying to solve them.

[Alex Linder]

Originally Posted by ohgolly

As a mere matter of opinion on what is now an irrelevant point, I disagree. Hitler's Germany only existed for twelve years. Still in its infancy and faced with all of the problems and opposition that entailed, its 'intrusiveness' was as necessary during its creation and establishment as is a mother's supervision of her baby in a jungle.

I agree with that, and have never said anything else.

What I'm advocating sounds contradictory, but isn't. First, we need an extremely strong central authority that can fix our racial problems and reground our state in bio-sanity. Then we reteach the population through the existing network of schools. But eventually and ideally, power is devolved as in Switzerland or as it was in these original confederated States.

The simple fact is that there will always be a dark side to white creativity and excessive intelligence: some portion of that will always turn against the greater good in the name of some perverse morality. But without jews around to channel it, and niggers around for social-engineering fodder, well, the mind-perverts will have to dream up new problems to cause. It will not be easy for them, because the jews won't be there controlling the media to celebrate them as artists and thinkers and heroes. Rather, they'll be seen for what they are, disturbed misfits. 98% of people are conservatives. 2% are disturbed. The 2% control the media because they have to. These theoretical problems in an all-White society are for my great great grandson to deal with; I must worry about mine, which is jews and the coloreds they're using to destroy our White race.

Things in the future may well be radically different from the way they are today. The conservatives, lazy cowards, taking one with another, laugh at the rationalists and utopians as well they should. They also laugh at science, but it is science that has given us the only true progress we've ever had. Now scientists, not jeboozers, are able to extend the life of tiny organisms 6x. That may be us tomorrow. Imagine someone with 80 years of stored wisdom, able to keep his body young and live to 300. Imagine men developing church-equivalents that taught strength in all forms rather than celebrating weakness and stupidity and believing things that aren't true, as Christianity does. There's much more to the coming world than dreamt of in Christian mythology.

From recent debate it's clear, at least to me, that many national socialists are as ignorant of economics as libertarians are ignorant of race. Libertarians have many genuine reforms awaiting only the power to make them law. A new White government could take advantage of old racial wisdom and new economic knowledge to create a lean and limited state protecting a racially solid people. That would be the most desirable future possible.

Even so, it moved ahead at a faster pace than did the burr-ocracy in America, for example.

One size doesn't fit all. Germans and Americans are both Aryans, but they're also different people. Germany is more like an extended family, whereas America contains a wider variety of different types. What is appropriate to Germany might not be appropriate in America. This is where I rely on men like Burke. You have to study the particulars of the circumstances and the situation - it is the opposite of the one-size-fits all French rationalism or jew-for-white Christian universalism.

I know what is good for America, and I know exactly how I would use executive power to change things. For Germany, the Germans must say.

[Alex Linder]

Originally Posted by ohgolly

That's possible, but it's also from hindsight. It's easy for us to forget all that's involved in remaking a society. From everything I've read I conclude that they moved as fast as they were able to, under the conditions they faced.

"Don't tell me about the labor pains, show me the baby." The fact is that the vast majority of jews in Germany and Europe not only kept their lives but ended up with dictatorial control over Germany and Europe. By contrast, consider jews and jewish behavior. Lying and murder as far as the eye can see. Hitler wasn't nasty enough. That's plain fact.

Yes, that is an ideal, but you can't jump into it directly from the tar pit, as you know.

Well, see that's the thing about rounding people up and executing them. Itz so easy even government workers can do it.

[Alex Linder]

Originally Posted by billwhite

Hitler wanted to avoid a war, and a Bolshevik counter revolution.

If a white government takes power peacefully, it is to the disadvantage of all people for it to start a civil war by attempting the immediate massacre or mass displacement of millions. Such efforts will allow communists to recruit and organize and may very well lead to a civil war which it is always possible the communists could win.

I don't see a peaceful solution. The jews/commies/race-traitors should be, as they so delicately put it of us, "stamped out." It doesn't have to happen on camera, but it has to happen, and as quickly as possible. Then put Big Jew and top collaborators like O'Reilly and Hannity and Coulter on trial with them to expedite public education and awareness there's a new barn boss.

A white government that took power would be much better advised to move cautiously in building the new order, rather than moving abruptly against popular opposition and being overthrown.

Hitler realize this, thus the actions of the Third Reich.

It didn't work. Hitler's measured approached failed. The jews "kill 'em all and lie about it" succeeded.

This is one of the reasons I say people need more practical experience in building a political-social-cultural-economic movement. Such experience tends to eliminate the fantastic thinking behind "silver bullet" solutions.

If you're fumigating your house, you don't do it one room at a time. Of course people who've been brainwashed for 100 years aren't going to agree that jews are vermin. But they won't resist us tomorrow anymore than they resist jews today. And because they are brainwashed and the jews do hold all the amplifiers, a peaceful transfer of power is unthinkable.

Hitler had a deep respect for life

This is cant. It's like calling yourself "tolerant" or some other noble adjective. Hitler didn't respect the life of judeobolshiks. A predator refusing to eat prey is odd, to say the least. Our bowels are built for meat, to deny them makes no sense. Meat is more complex and tastier than vegetables, just as Aryans are more complex and tastier than mudmen.

and for himself, thus he did not kill animals unnecessarily, and he did not abuse his body with toxic substances.

Uh...yeah. Might want to ask Dr. Morell about that.

Those who obsess over the "freedom" to harm themselves or enage in vice show the weakness of their own characters.

Ah yes, good ol' get-in-your-traces-mule-and-enjoy-your-positive-freedom-plowing-my-garden.

How can a community-based government address issues of race? How can one give local autonomy to governing units that may decide "hey, this white power thing isn't so good after all? let's bring the niggers back."

It can't. That is where I would allow no disagreement. I'm frank about it. I don't believe white men should have the freedom to decide to mate with and live among niggers. There is no way for them to do that without destroying the kind of country I want to live in, and in any case, they deny me the freedom to segregate myself, so I see no reason to be more concerned with protecting their rights than they are mine. They dictate to us today; we dictate to them tomorrow.

And in order to avoid class struggle, the government must intervene in the economy to curb the excesses of the bourgeoisie and to drive the economy towards social, not private, interest.

Class struggle is a jewish concept. Of course there are always some straings, as some feel they don't get what they deserve. Life isn't fair. The state or church or some force must teach people to worry about themselves and leave other people alone. The message government must send is Singapore's: yes, i know you want to make money (selling drugs, making interracial porno, hiring mexicans at low rates), but we don't want you doing that. We feel so strongly about it, in fact, that we will execute you if you do.

That's all that has to be done. You show you mean business, Limbaugh & the Portly Chortlers will get the message real quick.

[Cthulhu]

Your religious faith in government is misplaced. Average people are capable of working out most of their problems. Government makes problems worse by trying to solve them.

Then are you suggesting government should be abolished? That is what it comes down to. A very unreasonable state of affairs.

You know how, when someone trys to pass a bill and some grub tacks an amendment to it so it you want one you gotta have the other?

That is how, through the purblindness of the left and right, the Jews get the ball rolling. You want social change? Here is the pound of flesh we require.

These lies were stale 150 years ago. You resent that some have more than you. The fact is, even the poor are rich in capitalist society, and if they have anything on the ball, they don't stay poor long. You advocate a system that impovershes and controls everybody but the ruling elite - exactly what you claim you're against. You hate rich people because because you believe they didn't earn it. Usually that is not the case - most rich people worked a hell of a lot harder than most poor.

I've never resented someone having more money than me, ever. Money just isn't that important to me; other things are, such as the health of my race. Fact is you are confusing a corporate free market society with a white society. Not only that, there have been times where a considerable amount of Whites have become poorer and poorer while the rich did get richer. I think they call that the economic cycle In fact, you seem to be living on the cusp of such times now. Is it because business is in bed with an expanded government? In that case the idea of limiting the government is a go around for limiting the power of certain monied individuals and organizations.

You advocate a system that impovershes and controls everybody but the ruling elite - exactly what you claim you're against.

You know nothing about NS. Look at the results of the first six years of NS rule in Germany and show me where this happened. It didn't. Meanwhile, at the same time in the US...

And you can talk about the fifties, after government programs like the GI bill had been introduced, and after the government had successfully waged a war for spoils. Fat as a hog on the blood of its racial kin. Kudos. Planning a repeat performance?

Yes, that was the communist theory, but the workers en masse decided for capitalism - every single time it's been put to the test.

In NS theory the working masses include, scientists, entrepreneurs, etc., but not usurers. That is the NS "muscle and brain" combine. Fair competition is encouraged in business, but not to the detriment of future generations, by, for example, selling advanced methods of production to third world countries, like China where the "competition" will help impoverish the workers back home. Conservative advocates will discry this as holding back innovation etc., liberals as racist, and a crime against the poor in China. Fuck them, and fuck any slappy who thinks some mist covered mountain top ideal is more important than their people.

I think, "the democratic state and the unions where primary responsible for the redistribution of this produced wealth so that the working masses would profit to a point from this" was a precursor to this: "Today,Globalization-era, the democratic state has proved corrupt and the unions unable to defend the "redistribution" rights of the working masses." Which is what NS forsaw and to which it gave and gives an alternative.

Polluting is an inevitable byproduct of indoor living. We all share in it, not a guilty minority. The market can solve pollution problems better than government.

What is the market's reason for doing so? What is the market's reason? What should be the purpose of market? What should be the purpose of the government? What should be the purpose of the people?

Don't mistake the government for the people. Don't mistake the market for the people. Both are grevious errors.

"Yes," he replied, "but we must understand what Christ meant by 'enemy.' We can love an honorable and decent enemy, even a brutal one, who is frank and forthright in his enmity. And at the same time we can beware of him. But Christ never dreamed that we should love men whom no love whatever could dissuade from their implacable determination to poison us, body and soul. Indeed, he himself did not do that. On the contrary, he continued to strike with his whip as hard as he could. And the words that he flung with indignation into the faces of the rabble breathed of irreconcilability itself. To me, he acted very proudly in the founding of his religion: there was very little contradiction between his sermons and his deeds! Why, then, have the 'pious' never followed his example? They least of all. They mercilessly persecute even their decent adversaries -- as a matter of fact, only their decent adversaries. Their eyes remain closed to the most cunning bunch of swindlers in existence. The Bavarian People's Party, for instance, knows quite well that we are defending the Christian foundations of our nation without mental reservations. They also know, however, that we can make no common cause with them as long as they adhere to their present policies. And so they turned to the Jews, hoping to remain in power with their help. They surprised themselves. Dripping with friendliness at first, the Jews turned on them murderously when they had gotten the upper hand."

"That was inevitable," I agreed with him. "Fortunately, the Jews would not be able to provide us with that same sort of dreadful experience, for we do not betray and murder our own flesh and blood for the sales of profit. So far as we are concerned, the Bavarian People's party could even remain in office, provided they clean the manure out of they pigsty and perceive the correctness of our views. We are not willing to tear ourselves apart just for power. But we want Germanism, we want genuine Christianity, we want order and propriety, and we want these things so firmly established that our children and grandchildren can remain satisfied with them."

"They consider that impossible," he said, "and therefore they consider our program nothing but empty phrases, of no more sincerity than the empty phrases with which they consciously try to peddle themselves to the people. But our goals are not only possible, they are certain, even if we don't attain them tomorrow. But first a beginning must be made. So far, never and nowhere has there been a truly social state. Everywhere and always the upper crust has leaned much more strongly to the principle, 'what is yours, is mine,' than to, 'what is mine, is yours.' These wise ones have only themselves to blame for the fact the lower stratum, full of rage, now is committing the same error. The Jew is able to take advantage of both these groups. One of them provides for his affairs, the other carries them out. Therefore, we oppose them both. We will put an end to unfair privileges as well as to slavery."

"Decidedly," I replied. "Our front stands against both left and right. A strange situation; from two directions we must ward off attackers who also fight one another. The Reds scream at us as reactionaries, and to the reactionaries we are Bolsheviks. From both sides the Jew directs the attack on us. The lower stratum doesn't see him yet and, thus, hates us from sheer stupidity; the upper stratum sees him but thinks it can serve its own selfish purposes with him and thus, shoots us in the back more from unscrupulousness than stupidity. One really needs a good deal of faith under such circumstances in order to maintain one's courage."

"Which we have, God be thanked, in a hundred ways," he said, laughing, as he stretched himself. "No words were spoken more directly to our hearts than 'Be not afraid'! (Matthew 28:10) And that was supposed to have been said by a Jew? Those creatures of eternal fear? Crazy!"

-- Bolshevism from Moses to Lenin

Eventually you are going to have to create a synthisis out of your earlier conservative beliefs and your new found racialist beliefs. You haven't done so yet, and skirt around the issue of doing so. That is why there is a certain foggyness and indirectness to everything you say except when you lean heavily to one side or the other. Sooner or later you are going to have to find an equlibrium. THEN IT WILL BE A CLEAR AND SIMPLE IDEA. At the moment, the pretense to simplicity is an excuse for putting off forming a workable synthisis. And without that synthesis you will have no political traction. Don't try and fly with one wing at a time.

Come on Linder, amaze me.

[Alex Linder]

Originally Posted by deathtozog

Well, I guess my calls to JP to write this are superfluous since someone else got to it first.

6. free, universal quality education, primary through university level, stressing excellence, practical knowledge, and love of wisdom.

Yes, guys who can't dress and don't do grammar are going to guarantee "free, universal" health care and quality education.

Why not "guarantee" perpetual orgasms too?

[Hadding]

Originally Posted by Alex Linder

Uh...yeah. Might want to ask Dr. Morell about that.

I saw a program on that awful History Channel called High Hitler, and they made a big deal about the fact that when Hitler was feeling sluggish he would get an injection from Dr. Morell of a mysterious substance called vitamultin, and Hitler would immediately pep up. Clearly vitamultin was some kind of powerful drug, right?

Well guess what? Vitamultin is the brandname of a multivitamin. All the people who made that stupid documentary had to do was an internet search to find out that there was nothing sinister in Vitamultin.

[Alex Linder]

Actually, DTZ, the NSM provides the perfect foil for what I'm talking about. Instead of this horseshit utopianism that an intelligent third-grader could see through, we have a chance to corral and make a powerful clydesdale team of the smart guys who understand economics and the smart guys who understand race. That beats swazi slob socialism any day of the year.

I have no doubt that National Socialism will succeed in America. Afterall, who in their right mind could possibly doubt that the number one torch-bearers of NS - the National Socialist Movement (shown below) - have the capability of running our government, our economy, and our society?





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[Alex Linder]

Originally Posted by Augustus Sutter

Maybe fifty years ago this was the situation. In large corporate Amerikwa today, conformity and passivity, especially with regards to White males, are demanded. The corporate structure operates exactly in a Jew prescribed fashion. It is multi-cultural, effeminate, even matriarchal in its nature and operation. Any sign of masculinity on the part of a White Male is viewed as a threat by the corporate matriarchy. It is a highly controlled artificial environment in which women and minorities are elevated above White Males. There is no malfeasance on the part of women and minorities that won't be tolerated. As in all things Jewed and multi-culturalized in Amerikwa today, those artificially elevated on some level are aware that if White Males ever assert themselves their little party will be over. White men exist only to serve women and minorities. They are constantly under the microscope for any sign of non-compliance. White men that do rise in the company are only the most conformist, obsequious, effeminate and unprincipled fops in Amerikwa today.

I'm aware that PC/SC is worse than ever, particularly in the Fortune 500. ZOG forces business to subsidize coloreds/jews/women, while allowing it to make enough profits to keep getting up in the morning. The white man needs three shoulders for the extra burden, but they keep it just light enough that he won't revolt.

My point is not that business is free of cultural policing by SC commissars, but that it's still freer than academia, which is jew-mud-wimmin-fag-lib across the board.

Most people work for small businesses, not large ones, and they retain a good deal of freedom and flexibility.

[Alex Linder]

Academia = whiners, spongers, passives who think their worthless opinions are highly valuable. All they do is whine to the state legislature for more money.

[Alex Linder]

Originally Posted by Cthulhu

Then are you suggesting government should be abolished? That is what it comes down to. A very unreasonable state of affairs.

No, I'm actually a hyparchist. I believe there should be nothing outside government, nothing beyond government, nothing BUT government. All we have to do is create a Departmen of Sexual Satisfaction, guaranteeing perpetual orgasms for all citizens, regardless of age, sex, or genital condition.

I've never resented someone having more money than me, ever. Money just isn't that important to me; other things are, such as the health of my race. Fact is you are confusing a corporate free market society with a white society.

Ever see government workers (pols) take on big business? All the time. Ever see government take on jews? Never. That shows you where the real power lies. The systematics have made billions attacking Big Tobacco, demonstrating that mere corporate size does not confer power. No one takes on Big Jew. Ding! Ding! Hear the epiphany bell ring!

Not only that, there have been times where a considerable amount of Whites have become poorer and poorer while the rich did get richer. I think they call that the economic cycle In fact, you seem to be living on the cusp of such times now. Is it because business is in bed with an expanded government? In that case the idea of limiting the government is a go around for limiting the power of certain monied individuals and organizations.

There is no real solution, as the incentives to leech off the people always exist, whether or not the government is run by Whites or jews. Nothing can change the incentives as they lie in our nature and hearts. What can change is that the jews controlling our government and using it to genocide our race can be stopped.

You know nothing about NS. Look at the results of the first six years of NS rule in Germany and show me where this happened. It didn't. Meanwhile, at the same time in the US...

I was referring to the USSR.

And you can talk about the fifties, after government programs like the GI bill had been introduced, and after the government had successfully waged a war for spoils. Fat as a hog on the blood of its racial kin. Kudos. Planning a repeat performance?

Before the GI bill, we had low taxes and highly intelligent people in ordinary service jobs. Now we have high taxes and fucking morons and non-English-speakers in these jobs, and college is a joke because 90% of those attending it aren't qualified for college material. I like the old way better.

In NS theory the working masses include, scientists, entrepreneurs, etc., but not usurers. That is the NS "muscle and brain" combine. Fair competition is encouraged in business, but not to the detriment of future generations, by, for example, selling advanced methods of production to third world countries, like China where the "competition" will help impoverish the workers back home. Conservative advocates will discry this as holding back innovation etc., liberals as racist, and a crime against the poor in China. Fuck them, and fuck any slappy who thinks some mist covered mountain top ideal is more important than their people.

I don't think all conservatives think that way. More might today, as conservatism has been taken over by jews. But if one accepts groups as valid, as well as individuals, then the rest follows. Remember, though, it's the jews like Bernie at Loral who sell our high-tech to China.

Racially and culturally constrained market economies is the right way to go. The racial part is easy; the cultural part is more difficult.

What is the market's reason for doing so? What is the market's reason? What should be the purpose of market? What should be the purpose of the government? What should be the purpose of the people?

The people doesn't need a purpose. People have their own purposes. A racial government can preserve the context in which they can pursue their arts and sciences. "To the stars" - nah, you go to the stars, twinky, I'm staying right here on terra firma. The desire of some of these clowns for a Strong Man to sweep our race off its feet onto his horse and carry us off to his castle in the stars -- positively homosexual, itz.

Our race will not be saved, per Dukie, by its beauty and creativity, it will be saved, if it is, by snide laughter and spilled blood. "Faith in a cause is a substitute for lost faith in oneself" - if that applies to you reading this, you don't belong in White nationalism.

Eventually you are going to have to create a synthisis out of your earlier conservative beliefs and your new found racialist beliefs. You haven't done so yet, and skirt around the issue of doing so. That is why there is a certain foggyness and indirectness to everything you say except when you lean heavily to one side or the other. Sooner or later you are going to have to find an equlibrium. THEN IT WILL BE A CLEAR AND SIMPLE IDEA.

Not everything can be clear and simple. I believe I've laid out my ideas so that people can understand them, and accept or reject as they see fit.

The focus must be on the jew, above all else. When the jew is out of the way, the rest won't take care of itself, but the main problem will be solved. Whites can sort out the degree to which they want loser-socialism. I prefer a system in which the central authority is weak, and in which there are all kinds of small states, and in which the people are misanthropic, private, and heavily armed, and highly learned, and chock full of funny sayings. I prefer a system in which the people over there are different from the people here. It gives me more to laugh at, appreciate, hate, and think about. I want a White society because I like diversity. But that's me. There will always be a segment of Whites voting the straight Perpetual Orgasm Party ticket.

Amaze you?

Try this: government is not responsible for your failures - you are.

Government is gang. Government kills people, or harasses them to cough up money. That's all it does or can do.

Of the WNN I have met outside of a segment of VNN, I wouldn't put them in charge of running a McDonald's.

Not ready for prime time? Hell, folks. We ain't ready for Second City. We're not even up to Kids in the Hall level yet.