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Old August 26th, 2012 #1
Sean Dyson
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Default Do you think all the WN support is what hurt Ron Paul?

He seemed to be doing fine until Don black and other WN organizations started showing support for Ron Paul. On Freerepublic, someone posted a link to a pic with Ron Paul standing next to Don Black and his son and many posters where talking about how they would no longer support Ron Paul because of racist affiliations. Republicans try to ostracize any political figure or group (like they did to Don Blacks son) who have race related ideologies as an attempt to not appear racist (probably why we have a monkey as the spokeman for the rep party) so do you think our support of Ron Paul is what hurt him?

[EDIT] oh and I'm new here guys, I think this forum will be a better fit for me, better than stormfront I sure
 
Old August 26th, 2012 #2
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He seemed to be doing fine until Don black and other WN organizations started showing support for Ron Paul. On Freerepublic, someone posted a link to a pic with Ron Paul standing next to Don Black and his son and many posters where talking about how they would no longer support Ron Paul because of racist affiliations. Republicans try to ostracize any political figure or group (like they did to Don Blacks son) who have race related ideologies as an attempt to not appear racist (probably why we have a monkey as the spokeman for the rep party) so do you think our support of Ron Paul is what hurt him?
No. He was hurt because he embraced MLK. He was hurt because he didn't show the balls and consistency on race he showed everywhere else, making him just another politician, killing his money bomb. Last campaign, that was.

This world is not for pussies. Paul pussed out on race, that's not our fault. He would actually have done BETTER if he took the WN position on race and closed borders, both of which can be done without doing damage to libertarian principles.
 
Old August 26th, 2012 #3
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I believe his positions against the military industrial complex's wars and the attack of the kikes' cash cow, i.e. the federal reserve, caused all the stops to be pulled out to defeat him.

Had he the balls to accentuate racial disparities against the moral majority, things might have clicked for him.

Personally, I'm done with politics. I want war with the criminals of government, it doesn't matter which government, I want all their asses.
 
Old August 26th, 2012 #4
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No. He was hurt because he embraced MLK. He was hurt because he didn't show the balls and consistency on race he showed everywhere else, making him just another politician, killing his money bomb. Last campaign, that was.

This world is not for pussies. Paul pussed out on race, that's not our fault. He would actually have done BETTER if he took the WN position on race and closed borders, both of which can be done without doing damage to libertarian principles.
probably but I remember he had a LOAD of supporters, both conservative and libertarian who jumped ship after speculation of his racial views which seems believable because a lot of republicans don't want the party to appear racist giving the libtards ammo. I remember that being specificaly the reason why Don Blacks son (forgot his name) got little to no support in his polictical career.
 
Old August 26th, 2012 #5
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I believe his positions against the military industrial complex's wars and the attack of the kikes' cash cow, i.e. the federal reserve, caused all the stops to be pulled out to defeat him.

Had he the balls to accentuate racial disparities against the moral majority, things might have clicked for him.

Personally, I'm done with politics. I want war with the criminals of government, it doesn't matter which government, I want all their asses.
The powers that be still would have shut him down, but if he'd emphasized free association (as opposed to forced integration) and the nation as property (thus with right to keep out intruders) he would have done better than he did do, in my estimation. The way the Romney and official Republicans fucked him was remarkable though. They don't follow their own rules. Just utter power-hungry, unprincipled tools.

Ron Paul's campaigns have been worthwhile for many reasons: they've shown how angry many Whites are; and they've shown how controlled the System really is. Both of which are assertions we WN make continually. Ron Paul has done nothing but help racialism, no matter his intent.

It's not people who aint us we need to worry about, it's people who claim to be us, who use our name, but hold the wrong views or principles.
 
Old August 26th, 2012 #6
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probably but I remember he had a LOAD of supporters, both conservative and libertarian who jumped ship after speculation of his racial views which seems believable because a lot of republicans don't want the party to appear racist giving the libtards ammo. I remember that being specificaly the reason why Don Blacks son (forgot his name) got little to no support in his polictical career.
Yeah, so they're easily intimidated cowards. All the left has to do is scream racist, and they run away crying. They deserve to lose. As does Paul, who ran away from the words in HIS OWN NEWSLETTER.

What's wrong with being racist? It just means you don't hate yourself and your race like your ENEMY wants you to? Only anti-White use the term 'racist,' so who cares what they think?
 
Old August 26th, 2012 #7
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I believe his positions against the military industrial complex's wars and the attack of the kikes' cash cow, i.e. the federal reserve, caused all the stops to be pulled out to defeat him.

Had he the balls to accentuate racial disparities against the moral majority, things might have clicked for him.

Personally, I'm done with politics. I want war with the criminals of government, it doesn't matter which government, I want all their asses.
I think he would have needed to be careful with that though. he would have to be very borderline about how he would go about race issues, speak on race issues that most republicans agree with like affirmative action and immagration, muslims but anything overtly racist would make the republican party turn on him. I've learned that the republican party are stiflers when it comes to making their party look as unracist as possable so support for an openly racist candidate would be minimal at best. I don't think a candidate can run as an open WN, the republican party would dismiss him as an embaressment to the party.
 
Old August 26th, 2012 #8
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It would be very easy to demonstrate how overt government racism against whites also damages niggers and every other race. Alex is right on the property rights issue to control illegal immigration.
 
Old August 26th, 2012 #9
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Yeah, so they're easily intimidated cowards. All the left has to do is scream racist, and they run away crying. They deserve to lose. As does Paul, who ran away from the words in HIS OWN NEWSLETTER.

What's wrong with being racist? It just means you don't hate yourself and your race like your ENEMY wants you to? Only anti-White use the term 'racist,' so who cares what they think?
I'd agree with you but in order for the movement to progress, we would need some WN in power. An open racist wouldn't really get far in politics with the republicans fear of looking racist and we need them to advance our ideology. America is becoming more and more liberal everyday and the republican party becoming less and less relevent due to appearing radical in beliefs. open racists in the party would hender the republicans even more. So I think it's best for political racialist to be more discrete with their appearence. we need more influenctual racialist in power to help advance our cause. Bravery doesn't win the war, Brains do and we have to be careful how we go about our cause.
 
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It would be very easy to demonstrate how overt government racism against whites also damages niggers and every other race. Alex is right on the property rights issue to control illegal immigration.
well yeah, that part is correct and is something Ron Paul could have opted for since most republicans feel the exact same way.
 
Old August 26th, 2012 #11
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I'd agree with you but in order for the movement to progress, we would need some WN in power. An open racist wouldn't really get far in politics with the republicans fear of looking racist and we need them to advance our ideology. America is becoming more and more liberal everyday and the republican party becoming less and less relevent due to appearing radical in beliefs. open racists in the party would hender the republicans even more. So I think it's best for political racialist to be more discrete with their appearence. we need more influenctual racialist in power to help advance our cause. Bravery doesn't win the war, Brains do and we have to be careful how we go about our cause.
The idea that hiding your real beliefs is smart is disproven by history. Speaking in codes has been tried for about fifty years, and has led to nothing except going backward. The left attacks, the right retreats. Cowardice is not a winning political strategy.
 
Old August 26th, 2012 #12
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He didn't suck Israel's ass 24/7. He campaigned on a platform of End The Fed. He's lucky that a lone gunman didn't pop him from a grassy knoll. Ron Paul has been smart enough to avoid difficult to pilot single engine aircraft, you gotta give him that.

Jesus Christ could have came down from the Heavens, the Holy Spirit could have alighted on Ron Paul's shoulders as a brilliant, radiant dove, JEHOVAH COULD HAVE RUMBLED...

THIS IS MY SON, WHOM I LOVE, WITH HIM I AM VERY WELL PLEASED...

And he wouldn't have been picked. Then he definitely would have been "neutralized."
 
Old August 26th, 2012 #13
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The idea that hiding your real beliefs is smart is disproven by history. Speaking in codes has been tried for about fifty years, and has led to nothing except going backward. The left attacks, the right retreats. Cowardice is not a winning political strategy.
but neither is running for office on views that the majority are not fond of. this is why both parties try to silence the radical thinking individuals inorder to not make themselves look like a radical party. This is what the republicans are trying to do with Tod Akin.
 
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but neither is running for office on views that the majority are not fond of. this is why both parties try to silence the radical thinking individuals inorder to not make themselves look like a radical party. This is what the republicans are trying to do with Tod Akin.
You don't have a choice when the mass media are dominated by people who want you extinct. You can't win playing by their rules. The Reps have tried to do that, and over fifty years they have turned into exactly the thing they were supposed to oppose.

The solution is not within the System. Not at this point.

All the Republicans are doing with Akin is demonstrating how cowardly and disloyal they are. So the guy said something factually wrong. He can correct it, and move on. But the Republicans, who have no balls, throw him to the wolves. Even though he was leading his race at the time. That shows their opponent what they're made of. They're just cowards. Just keep screaming racist at them and they'll give you whatever you want.

You don't beat as strong an enemy as we face by trying to be a smooth liar.

Read around on here, your way of thinking is typical of those who haven't considered the matter.
 
Old August 26th, 2012 #15
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You don't have a choice when the mass media are dominated by people who want you extinct. You can't win playing by their rules. The Reps have tried to do that, and over fifty years they have turned into exactly the thing they were supposed to oppose.

The solution is not within the System. Not at this point.

All the Republicans are doing with Akin is demonstrating how cowardly and disloyal they are. So the guy said something factually wrong. He can correct it, and move on. But the Republicans, who have no balls, throw him to the wolves. Even though he was leading his race at the time. That shows their opponent what they're made of. They're just cowards. Just keep screaming racist at them and they'll give you whatever you want.

You don't beat as strong an enemy as we face by trying to be a smooth liar.

Read around on here, your way of thinking is typical of those who haven't considered the matter.
I don't mean Down right lying, I just mean being more discrete with the more unpopular views. Put more emphasis on the views both racialist and typical republicans agree on and run off that. The republicans have been the most influenctual party for years, they are our only avenue at the moment. What possible chance do we have if not obtaining partnership with the republicans. We can't win against an enemy that powerful on bravery alone. And the thing with Akin was to make the republican party appear radical so that they could still retain relevance among future members. The liberals and jews control the media, and if they find the majority of republicans taking in beliefs that go against their own, they would present that through the media turning off potentual members. We need those members to help increase the republicans influence. The one thing about a lot of jews is that they agree with republicans views on the economy so a lot tend to lean republican. I have learned that when you gain a jews trust in the republican party, they will help advance your political ambitions whatever way possable increasing your political influence. As long as you don't appear like you are against them, they will usually agree with every other republican stance you take which can be of great benefit for the WN cause.
 
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you can play with their greed, many republican jews will indorse any white or black who they think will help further their hunger for money. Not every jew wants extinction for the white race, some just want money and will do whatever they can to get it like exploiting whites to make money for them. A smart person can use this greed to their advantage by appealing to the jews need for money and gaining their trust to advance their political ambitions. the thing about the jewish republicans is that they can be very helpful in advancing a potentual candidates political career so getting in the rep jews good grace can be very beneficial. the more it happends the more racialy aware republicans could gain influence.
 
Old August 27th, 2012 #18
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Quote: "Do you think all the WN support is what hurt Ron Paul?"



Gee, what makes you think that...?


 
Old August 27th, 2012 #19
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Quote: "Do you think all the WN support is what hurt Ron Paul?"



Gee, what makes you think that...?


thats the picture that all the freepers from freerepublic were complaining about. Many who were former supporters of Paul started calling Paul a nazi lunatic nutcase. ugh, maybe next election.
 
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The pic in Brent Mckaskell's post is obviously photo shopped.

 
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