The Absurdity of Transgenderism

[Nikola Bijeliti]

Today I was listening to an advertisement for some pharmaceutical, when I heard the announcer say, "do not take if you were assigned female at birth." Notice the wording "if you were assigned female at birth," rather than simply "if you are female." The idea of being assigned a "gender" at birth is that the doctor can't possibly know your real "gender" so he simply "assigns" you a gender. But if that were the case, why would the efficacy of the drug depend on the gender that you were arbitrarily "assigned" at birth and not your "real" gender?

[U. Dunrouse]

Physiology doesn't lie. Gender is an invariable biological status fixed by chromosomes, not a choice done by noisy wackos, as proven by that drug. Mother Nature is, of course, a transphobic hater.

Camouflage (genital mutilations and hormonal injections) is not mutation…

[joeylowsac]

Originally Posted by Nikola Bijeliti

Today I was listening to an advertisement for some pharmaceutical, when I heard the announcer say, "do not take if you were assigned female at birth." Notice the wording "if you were assigned female at birth," rather than simply "if you are female." The idea of being assigned a "gender" at birth is that the doctor can't possibly know your real "gender" so he simply "assigns" you a gender. But if that were the case, why would the efficacy of the drug depend on the gender that you were arbitrarily "assigned" at birth and not your "real" gender?

The use of that much logic is equivalent to a hate crime!

[joeylowsac]

Originally Posted by U. Dunrouse

Physiology doesn't lie. Gender is an invariable biological status fixed by chromosomes, not a choice done by noisy wackos, as proven by that drug. Mother Nature is, of course, a transphobic hater.

Camouflage (genital mutilations and hormonal injections) is not mutation…

(Since we are talking about physiology and biology I will assume that 'gender' is being used synonymously for 'sex'.)

Indeed, everything undertaken to change a persons sex amounts to nothing more than attempts to conceal the sex.

However it is not true that gender is invariably fixed by chromosomes. Consider the following example:

The picture below (circa 1910) is of a 23 year old patient who was seeking medical advice regarding primary amenorrhea. Though the external genitalia appeared normal exploratory surgery revealed no uterus and more surprisingly two undescended testes with vasa deferentia, which leaves no doubt of an XY chromosomal basis (or possibly XXY). The cause was probably complete androgen insensitivity (i.e., Complete Androgen Insensitivity Syndrome).



I ask the same question the doctor asked. What purpose would it serve to declare such a person a man? He also asked what havoc it would wreak but given the havoc wreaked since he asked, we know the answer.
Nobody could interact with this person as they would a man.

This is not a person who has altered themselves artificially, this is how they were made by the gods, or God, or Nature. Usually in 46XY males with complete androgen insensitivity the first indication that something is wrong is the failure to menstruate. There is not a single case of someone with CAIS either being attracted to women or identifying as a man, despite being chromosomally male (46XY). There is at least some variation of gender (in the psychosexual sense) in all of the other conditions that result in Disorders of Sex Development, e.g., 46XX females with congenital adrenal hyperplasia are mostly heterosexual but they are 500 times more likely to be attracted to women than normal 46XX females and in cases of severe virilisation bare no resemblance to a female. Androgen (perhaps more than anything else) plays a critical role in sex differentiation, both physically and mentally.

Mercifully, Disorders of Sex Development are rare, although not as rare as many people think. We can classify people as man and woman arbitrarily by the 46th chromosome and it will usually serve well enough. Or the presence or absence of a testicle or whether the penis/clitoris extends to 2cm, all have been the deciding characteristic at some point. Still it should always be kept in mind that the whole truth is not quite so simple.
Just as it is appropriate and serves well enough to classify Obama or Neal deGrasse Tyson as a nigger (they are niggers) but don't forget that technically they are hybrids.

A footnote: The person in the picture was informed of being infertile but, as was standard practice until recently, were never told they were genetically male nor of the amputation of their balls.

[U. Dunrouse]

Originally Posted by joeylowsac

(Since we are talking about physiology and biology I will assume that 'gender' is being used synonymously for 'sex'.)

Indeed, everything undertaken to change a persons sex amounts to nothing more than attempts to conceal the sex.

However it is not true that gender is invariably fixed by chromosomes. Consider the following example:

The picture below (circa 1910) is of a 23 year old patient who was seeking medical advice regarding primary amenorrhea. Though the external genitalia appeared normal exploratory surgery revealed no uterus and more surprisingly two undescended testes with vasa deferentia, which leaves no doubt of an XY chromosomal basis (or possibly XXY). The cause was probably complete androgen insensitivity (i.e., Complete Androgen Insensitivity Syndrome).

I was of course talking about normal human beings. I thought that it was obvious I wasn't collecting specimens for a freak show such as androgen-insensitive mutants and other gender-based oddities of Mother Nature (XXY, XYY, XXX, bearded women, etc.). Five-legged sheep don't change the fact that sheep are four-legged animals. Using anomalies to destroy natural norms is what Leftists and other Globalist shills usually do.

[joeylowsac]

Originally Posted by U. Dunrouse

I was of course talking about normal human beings. I thought that it was obvious I wasn't collecting specimens for a freak show such as androgen-insensitive mutants and other gender-based oddities of Mother Nature (XXY, XYY, XXX, bearded women, etc.). Five-legged sheep don't change the fact that sheep are four-legged animals. Using anomalies to destroy natural norms is what Leftists and other Globalist shills usually do.

The example was merely to illustrate that your statement "Physiology doesn't lie. Gender is an invariable biological status fixed by chromosomes..." is not correct. Physiology does lie and sex in not fixed by chromosomes. I was not in any way making a statement about the social status of freaks.
Studying abnormalities has lead to great insights in many fields (e.g., brain function, consciousness, cognitive neuroscience, etc.), particularly when human study would be unethical. As well as insight into other abnormalities, such as homosexuality of which so called transgenderism is a form.

[Mick Walker]

Demonstrators took to the streets in Rome and Milan, following Italy’s Senate vote on an anti-homophobia bill. It proposed to equate anti-LGBT discrimination with racism, and raise sex orientation and gender topics at schools.

The controversial document, known as the ‘Zan bill’ after its initiator, Italy’s center-left MP and LGBT rights activist Alessandro Zan, was rejected by 154 votes in the Senate on Wednesday, while 131 members voted in favor. First introduced in the lower house of parliament in May 2018, it passed the House of Representatives last year in November, but faced challenges in the Senate. Parliament will now be unable to reopen discussions on the proposed law for the next six months, which leaves little time for it to be approved at all before the legislation expires. “The bill is dead,” senator Dario Parrini told Reuters.

They talked about us for two years and then as if nothing had happened they threw us in the bin,” a protester in the streets of Rome told RT’s video agency Ruptly on Thursday. “But it is always better than having to accept a watered-down text,” she added.

With the bill having sparked heated arguments between liberals and conservatives, its opponents suggested amendments to the initial document. Italy’s Lega Nord leader and former interior minister Matteo Salvini said the pro-bill politicians’ refusal to dialogue turned the legislation into “years of useless discussions.” Italy’s Foreign Minister Luigi Di Maio and Labor Minister Andrea Orlando called the Senate’s decision a “disgrace.”

“We understood that there was a scam,” a protester in the Italian capital told Ruptly, adding that her companions will “fight to get to our rights.”


More here...

https://www.rt.com/news/538812-italy...bill-protests/

[U. Dunrouse]

Originally Posted by joeylowsac

The example was merely to illustrate that your statement "Physiology doesn't lie. Gender is an invariable biological status fixed by chromosomes..." is not correct. Physiology does lie and sex in not fixed by chromosomes. I was not in any way making a statement about the social status of freaks.
Studying abnormalities has lead to great insights in many fields (e.g., brain function, consciousness, cognitive neuroscience, etc.), particularly when human study would be unethical. As well as insight into other abnormalities, such as homosexuality of which so called transgenderism is a form.

No, physiology doesn't lie. Being insensitive to androgen is physiological. That's a physiological dysfunction. And sex is fixed by chromosomes. The 'woman' in your previous post (in fact, a female-looking male) is a man who didn't go through virilization because of a mutation (or several mutations) nullifying the effects of androgen. Your assertion that sex is not fixed by chromosomes amounts to asserting that sight is not linked to eyes because the eyes of blind people are insensitive to light.

Originally Posted by joeylowsac

Studying abnormalities has lead to great insights in many fields (e.g., brain function, consciousness, cognitive neuroscience, etc.), particularly when human study would be unethical. As well as insight into other abnormalities, such as homosexuality of which so called transgenderism is a form.

That's true. But that's true because the study of abnormalities has enlightened the functioning of normality. In other words, abnormal/dysfunctional organs, tissues and bodies have demonstrated how normal organs, tissues and bodies work. For instance, androgen-insensitive mutants have demonstrated that androgen causes the virilization of males at puberty. Male vertebrates are inherently females who go through a masculinization process at the proper age. The individual in your example is not a female. He's a nonvirilized male.

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[joeylowsac]

Originally Posted by U. Dunrouse

No, physiology doesn't lie. Being insensitive to androgen is physiological. That's a physiological dysfunction. And sex is fixed by chromosomes. The 'woman' in your previous post (in fact, a female-looking male) is a man who didn't go through virilization because of a mutation (or several mutations) nullifying the effects of androgen. Your assertion that sex is not fixed by chromosomes amounts to asserting that sight is not linked to eyes because the eyes of blind people are insensitive to light.





That's true. But that's true because the study of abnormalities has enlightened the functioning of normality. In other words, abnormal/dysfunctional organs, tissues and bodies have demonstrated how normal organs, tissues and bodies work. For instance, androgen-insensitive mutants have demonstrated that androgen causes the virilization of males at puberty. Male vertebrates are inherently females who go through a masculinization process at the proper age. The individual in your example is not a female. He's a nonvirilized male.

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Of course the abnormalities are physiological and the secondary physiological characteristics are certainly more than a little deceiving! If that is a man then the physiological characteristics telling the truth are microscopic, everything else is telling a lie.
You are free to choose to reduce the definition of manhood to merely signifying the presence of a Y chromosome but the choice is arbitrary. By that logic that person is as much a man as you or I, in which case the distinction has very little meaning.
I can't speak for you but I strongly feel that I am significantly more man than that person. Something other than chromosomes must account for that.

I should point out that Complete Androgen Insensitivity Syndrome is only my own guess. The condition was unknown in 1910 and impossible to diagnose. There are other possibilities e.g., 5-alpha-reductase deficiency; Klinefelter Syndrome (XXY chromosomes).

[U. Dunrouse]

Originally Posted by joeylowsac

You are free to choose to reduce the definition of manhood to merely signifying the presence of a Y chromosome but the choice is arbitrary. By that logic that person is as much a man as you or I, in which case the distinction has very little meaning.
I can't speak for you but I strongly feel that I am significantly more man than that person. Something other than chromosomes must account for that.

Yes, the effects of male hormones on our bodies and brains.

[joeylowsac]

Originally Posted by U. Dunrouse

Yes, the effects of male hormones on our bodies and brains.

(that was the only point I was making, sex differentiation is governed largely by biochemical processes)

[U. Dunrouse]

Originally Posted by joeylowsac

(that was the only point I was making, sex differentiation is governed largely by biochemical processes)

And biochemical processes come from genes, i.e. chromosomes…

[Ned Hiller]

Originally Posted by joeylowsac

(that was the only point I was making, sex differentiation is governed largely by biochemical processes)

These hormonal processes can also determine a person's political views.

If you have noticed, based on our attendance of National Socialist rallies, we are higher in our testosterone levels as evidenced by our facial hair, wide or long jaws, broad shoulders, and broad hips when compared to the effeminate libtards and cuckservatives.

In addition, we shave our cranial hair to further emphasize our high testosterone, hyper-masculine physiques and our vastly superior intelligence compared to the left-right idiots.

RaHoWa!

White Power!

[joeylowsac]

Originally Posted by U. Dunrouse

And biochemical processes come from genes, i.e. chromosomes…

Great Goddess! No, that is not correct. The sex hormones are produced by glands (e.g., gonadal, adrenal, etc.).
Consider, every cell in my body contains all 46 chromosomes. The genes on those chromosomes determined that a heart cell would be a heart cell and a liver cell a liver cell but they are not involved in regulating my heart beat or liver function. That is done by the organs themselves.

[Ned Hiller]

Originally Posted by joeylowsac

No, that is not correct. The sex hormones are produced by glands (e.g., gonadal, adrenal, etc.).
Consider, every cell in my body contains all 46 chromosomes. The genes on those chromosomes determined that a heart cell would be a heart cell and a liver cell a liver cell but they are not involved in regulating my heart beat or liver function. That is done by the organs themselves.

I agree, even though genes can cause defects in the endocrine system which can cause hormonal imbalances and affect cognitive abilities, such problems can also be caused by malnutrition, carcinogens and exposure to endocrine disruptors.

In the 1900s, the US government made it mandatory to iodize salt to prevent iodine deficiency because it causes hypothyroidism which can cause brain damage and reduce cognitive functions.

In the 1950s, the US government started banning many carcinogenic substances because it can, among other things, cause tumors in the endocrine system which can cause hormonal imbalances.

Then in the 2000s, the US government banned endocrine disruptors because they can also cause brain damaging hormone imbalances.

This is probably why there are so many soy-boys in the 21st century: the hormone imbalances are making them dumb, moody and left-wing in their political views.

[joeylowsac]

Originally Posted by Ned Hiller

This is correct, even though genes can cause defects in the endocrine system which can cause hormonal imbalances and affect cognitive abilities, such problems can also be caused by malnutrition, carcinogens and exposure to endocrine disruptors.

In the 1900s, the US government made it mandatory to iodize salt to prevent iodine deficiency because it causes hypothyroidism which can cause brain damage and reduce cognitive functions.

In the 1950s, the US government started banning many carcinogenic substances because it can, among other things, cause tumors in the endocrine system which can cause hormonal imbalances.

Then in the 2000s, the US government banned endocrine disruptors because they can also cause brain damaging hormone imbalances.

This is probably why there are so many soy-boys in the 21st century: the hormone imbalances are making them dumb, moody and left-wing in their political views.

What was said was that hormones come from chromosomes. And as I said, no that is not correct. Nothing you mentioned above contradicts that in any way.
I said hormones come from glands. The endocrine system involves those glands.
The endocrine system is a messenger system comprising feedback loops of the hormones released by internal glands of an organism.
If anything this only illustrates my point. How you've managed to interpret what you wrote as contradictory to my point I do not know.

[U. Dunrouse]

Originally Posted by joeylowsac

What was said was that hormones come from chromosomes. And as I said, no that is not correct. Nothing you mentioned above contradicts that in any way.
I said hormones come from glands. The endocrine system involves those glands.
The endocrine system is a messenger system comprising feedback loops of the hormones released by internal glands of an organism.
If anything this only illustrates my point. How you've managed to interpret what you wrote as contradictory to my point I do not know.

Genes (chromosomes) are the blueprint for the synthesis of hormones and receptors of hormones. Mutated genes and abnormal chromosomes cause the synthesis of dysfunctional hormones and/or receptors of hormones. So hormones come from genes (chromosomes). If hormones didn't come from genes (chromosomes), there would be no hereditary hormonal/endocrine disorders such as hermaphroditism, achondroplasia (dwarfism) and the androgen insensitivity syndrome (AIS).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Androg...ivity_syndrome

[Ned Hiller]

Originally Posted by joeylowsac

What was said was that hormones come from chromosomes. And as I said, no that is not correct. Nothing you mentioned above contradicts that in any way.
I said hormones come from glands. The endocrine system involves those glands.
The endocrine system is a messenger system comprising feedback loops of the hormones released by internal glands of an organism.
If anything this only illustrates my point. How you've managed to interpret what you wrote as contradictory to my point I do not know.

I was not arguing, I actually said you were correct and just added extra information in that post.

Originally Posted by U. Dunrouse

Genes (chromosomes) are the blueprint for the synthesis of hormones and receptors of hormones. Mutated genes and abnormal chromosomes cause the synthesis of dysfunctional hormones and/or receptors of hormones. So hormones come from genes (chromosomes). If hormones didn't come from genes (chromosomes), there would be no hereditary hormonal/endocrine disorders such as hermaphroditism, achondroplasia (dwarfism) and the androgen insensitivity syndrome (AIS).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Androg...ivity_syndrome

Hormones are produced by the endocrine system and not directly by genes but what you mentioned about genetic mutations causing hormonal imbalances is true because it can cause defects in the endocrine glands.

However, as I said genes are not the only cause of hormone imbalances and environmental factors such as malnutrition, exposure to carcinogens, and exposure to endocrine disruptors can also cause hormone imbalances.

[George Witzgall]

Originally Posted by Ned Hiller

I was not arguing, I actually said you were correct and just added extra information in that post.



Hormones are produced by the endocrine system and not directly by genes but what you mentioned about genetic mutations causing hormonal imbalances is true because it can cause defects in the endocrine glands.

However, as I said genes are not the only cause of hormone imbalances and environmental factors such as malnutrition, exposure to carcinogens, and exposure to endocrine disruptors can also cause hormone imbalances.

Also when you are cucked or otherwise lacking purpose/direction you lose testosterone.

[joeylowsac]

Originally Posted by Ned Hiller

I was not arguing, I actually said you were correct and just added extra information in that post.

Oh, okay...that explains the lack of an opposing view.