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Old January 4th, 2011 #541
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FBI: Neo-Nazi on trial in Chicago also targeted Miami columnist
Jan 4, 2011

Avowed neo-Nazi William White — on trial in Chicago for allegedly advocating violence on his hate web site against a Chicago man who was a juror in a 2004 case involving white supremacist Matt Hale — once posted similar information about the Miami Herald’s syndicated columnist Leonard Pitts, an FBI agent testified Tuesday in Chicago.

White ripped a column by the columnist, referred to him with the “N-word” slur, then posted all of his personal information online, including his wife’s name and the family’s home address, according to the testimony in federal court.

The posting on overthrow.com prompted an email from the managing editor of the Miami paper, asking White to take down the information. White refused, who, according to the FBI agent’s testimony, emailed a response saying: “Frankly, if some loony took the info and killed him, I wouldn’t shed a tear.”

On Monday, Mark Hoffman, the juror in the 2004 case, testified that he was deluged with text messages in September 2008 — four years after the jury he served on convicted Hale — and that his photo was posted on overthrow.com, along with all of his personal information, including his sexual orientation, his partner’s African-American background and even the name of his cat, “Homeboy.”

White, of Roanoke, Va., is on trial for posting the information on the web site and encouraging violence against Hoffman.

The posting called Hoffman a “gay, Jewish anti-racist” and said he was responsible for wrongly convicting Hale in 2004. Hale was convicted of ordering the head of his security to kill U.S. District Judge Joan Lefkow. That man was an FBI informant. Hale is now serving a 40-year sentence.

Assistant U.S. Attorney Michael Ferrara pointed to past postings by White involving Hale and how White applauded when two of Lefkow’s family members were shot to death by a disgruntled litigant, who wasn’t connected to any hate group.

“It wasn’t the defendant’s intention to harm Mark Hoffman personally. The defendant wanted somebody else to do it,” Ferrara said.

White’s lawyer Chris Shepherd told jurors all of the information posted on White’s site was already public.

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Thumbs down Jury convicts neo-Nazi leader in Chicago trial

Jurors in Chicago have convicted an avowed neo-Nazi of encouraging violence against the foreman of a jury that convicted another white supremacist in 2004.

After a three-day trial, the jury agreed that William A. White of Roanoke, Va. effectively threatened the foreman by posting the man's name, photo, address and cell number online.

As the verdict was read in court Wednesday, that one-time foreman sat on a spectators' bench, leaned forward and cried. White turned to his attorneys and shook his head.

Defense attorney Nishay Sanan told reporters later that jurors acted out from fear and not based on facts of the case. He says he's confident the verdict will be overturned on the grounds White's posting was protected speech.

At sentencing, White faces a maximum 10-year prison term.


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CHICAGO — A self-proclaimed white-supremacist was convicted today by a federal jury in Chicago of soliciting violence to the foreman of a federal jury in Chicago that convicted another white-supremacist, Matthew Hale, in 2004, federal law enforcement officials announced today. The defendant, William A. White, was found guilty on one count of solicitation, announced Patrick J. Fitzgerald, United States Attorney for the Northern District of Illinois, and Robert D. Grant, Special Agent-in-Charge of the Chicago Office of the Federal Bureau of Investigation.

White, 33, also known as “Bill White,” of Roanoke, Va., faces a maximum penalty of 10 years in prison and a $250,000 fine. Jurors deliberated several hours following a two-day trial before U.S. District Judge Lynn Adelman, of Milwaukee, who was assigned to preside over the case in U.S. District Court in Chicago. A sentencing date was not immediately set.

Judge Adelman initially had dismissed the indictment against White but a federal appeals court in Chicago reinstated the solicitation charge last summer. Today’s verdict is White’s second federal conviction in little more than a year. He is currently serving a 30-month federal sentence that was imposed last April after a federal jury in Roanoke convicted him in December 2009 of three counts of communicating threats in interstate commerce and one count of witness intimidation.

“After one white supremacist was tried, convicted and sentenced for soliciting the murder of a federal judge in Chicago, White solicited his followers to retaliate against the foreman of that jury,” Mr. Fitzgerald said. “While freedom of speech is among our most cherished rights, the First Amendment does not protect anyone who intends to induce others to kill or injure. It is critical to our system of justice that jurors and judges alike must be free to perform their duties without living in fear.”

According to the evidence at trial, White created and maintained a former web site, “Overthrow.com,” which was publicly accessible on the Internet. The web site purported to be affiliated with the “American National Socialist Workers Party” (ANSWP), and claimed the organization was comprised of a “convergence of former [white supremacy] ‘movement’ activists who grew disgusted with the general garbage that ‘the movement’ has attracted and who formed the ANSWP under the Command of Bill White.” Members of the ANSWP were described as “National Socialists… who fight for white working people.”

Between Sept. 11 and Oct. 11, 2008, White used the Web site to solicit another person to injure Juror A on account of Juror A’s role as the foreperson of the jury that convicted Hale, the leader of a white-supremacist organization known as the World Church of the Creator, who was found guilty and sentenced to 40 years in prison for soliciting the murder of a federal judge in Chicago.

As part of White’s solicitation of violence against Juror A, White posted derogatory comments and personal information about Juror A, including Juror A’s home address and phone numbers, to be posted on the Overthrow.com Web site on Sept. 11, 2008. The solicitation occurred under circumstances strongly corroborating White’s intent that another person engage in criminal conduct using, attempting to use or threatening the use of force against Juror A.

White was aware that individuals associated with the white-supremacist movement, who were the target audience of his Web site, at times engaged in acts of violence, directed at non-whites, Jews, gays and persons perceived by white-supremacists as acting contrary to their interests. Prior to the solicitation against Juror A, White on multiple occasions caused postings to the Web site which disclosed what purported to be the home address and/or personal identifying information of individuals who were targets of criticism on the Internet. Certain of these postings during the same time period expressed White’s desire that acts of violence be committed against these specific individuals, including author and Holocaust survivor Elie Wiesel, individuals known as the “Jena 6,” a Canadian civil rights lawyer, and syndicated newspaper columnist Leonard Pitts.

The Government is being represented by Assistant U.S. Attorneys Michael Ferrara and William Hogan

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Bill White was found guilty of solicitation to harm a juror by an all-white jury in Chicago today.
Kwans in action !

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Unhappy "A sentencing date was not immediately set."

White was convicted in Roanoke in December 2009. He remained incarcerated pending sentencing until April 2010 - approximately 4 months.

In this instance Mr. White is scheduled to be release from the BoP January 18. Apparently he will now face at least an additional 4 months imprisonment while yet another pre-sentence report is developed.

The DoJ continues to rock and roll. New case law. New definitions of "true threat". New ways to deny bail.

... and this time a "secret" jury.

Will Judge Adelman find flaws in the jury verdict, or a failure to follow instructions? Doubtful. If White prevails he will only prevail at the appellate level and my guess is that he has not a prayer's chance in hell.

Adelman's dismissal was of the indictment, and that was overturned with the express instructions that the jury's findings of fact would be controlling and would be required. So, the jury having now decided, my guess is that the appellate courts won't touch it.

Bill may get credit for the 4 months he'll pull between now and sentencing, plus the months he was incarcerated before the Chicago case was initially thrown out. Someone with more experience will have to comment on whether or not he may get credit for time served on the Roanoke convictions; I don't know.

What will not surprise me, however, will be a repeat of the government's motions at sentencing for "enhancements." They'll bring in the complaining witness and have him weep, piss, and moan for the judge in the hopes the judge will turn a ten month sentence into a 100 month sentence. That was denied in Roanoke, but this is a new ball game.
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Lets give a hand to the fed's star witness and former friend of Bill White, Michael Burks.....
If I had a physique like that, I think I'd at least cover it up with a shirt.
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My best guess from everything I've read they will give him 3 years and not the 10... but a HUGE fine !
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This trial is a sham. Nigger and faggots are not some royalty class for whom it is a serious crime to "offend." Even if there was some minor offense involved, we should petition the governor to pardon Bill White if for no other reason than on grounds that his description of jews was so EPIC.

Correct me if I am wrong, but White called jews "hate demons in human form, unleashed upon the earth by Satan" or something to that effect.
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This sucks for Bill. He was so close to getting out. The government most likely deliberately waited until his first jail sentence was all but up to retry the Chicago charge just to stick it to him. The jury verdict was oh so typical of kwan logic. If he is lucky he will only get a few more years.
 
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Thanks for the report, John Creagh.

Here's a link to another story on the judge's dismissal:

http://www.firstamendmentcenter.org/news.aspx?id=24103

I'll still be surprised if Bill White is now released. Without any doubt the DoJ is burning the midnight oil drafting up appeal after appeal to get the matter taken away from Judge Adelman permanently. No way the feds are EVER going to let a mere trial judge let White out of jail. I look for a new trial to be ordered, and for the 7th Circuit to repeat in its entirety all their objections to Judge Adelman's initial rulings throwing out the indictment.
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Default Bill White Released from Prison two days ago (20 Mar 2011)

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I suspect notmenomore is right though. We'll see.

Anyway, it's great to know Bill is free now.
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Pravda Bill provoked fate but has at least been partially vindicated. I failed to follow developments in this case.
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Bill White freed, going to Maryland for now

Bill White, who led a now-defunct hate group, seems to have little left in Roanoke.
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Free after more than two years in prison, William A. White will not be coming home to Roanoke, where he built a real estate business and a neo-Nazi organization before falling victim to his own hateful words. White plans to live with his parents in Maryland -- at least for the time being, his attorney said Wednesday. After a judge's decision to throw out a jury verdict that would have subjected him to more prison time, White was released about 11 a.m. Wednesday from the Metropolitan Correctional Center in Chicago.

The leader of a now-defunct hate group, White has spent two and a half years locked up on charges of threatening, intimidating and encouraging violence against blacks, Jews and others he believed worthy of a white supremacist's wrath. White seems to have little to return to in Roanoke.

The American National Socialist Workers Party, a neo-Nazi group he founded, is no more, according to the Southern Poverty Law Center, which monitors hate groups. And the rental home business that White ran in the West End neighborhood has fallen victim to bankruptcy.

Still, White will have to come to Roanoke at least temporarily to visit probation officers as part of his three years of supervised release after his incarceration. "At some point, he will be arriving in Roanoke, it appears," said Mike Price, a senior probation officer who is responsible for supervising the 33-year-old. It's possible that White could ask that his probation be transferred to Maryland, where he will be living with his parents in their suburban Montgomery County home. Price declined to say if such a request has been made.

Nishay Sanan, a Chicago lawyer who represented White on his most recent charges, said his client already is making plans to meet with probation officials in Maryland.

White -- once described as one of the loudest and most obnoxious neo-Nazi leaders in America by the Southern Poverty Law Center -- walked free Wednesday on the orders of U.S. District Judge Lynn Adelman. His mother and wife were waiting to take him back to Maryland, Sanan said.

The previous day, Adelman ruled that a Chicago jury was wrong when it convicted White in January of using his website to encourage violence against the foreman of a jury that convicted a fellow white supremacist years ago.
White's behavior in that case mirrored his actions in many others: He publicized his target's home address and telephone numbers, injected some inflammatory rhetoric meant to appeal to his racist website's followers, but never made a direct threat against the juror.

In fighting the Chicago charge and seven similar ones in Roanoke, White sought protection from the First Amendment. More often than not, his defense worked. But in the end, White's organization fell apart after he was sent to prison on the three charges for which a Roanoke jury ruled his actions crossed the line between free speech and criminal activity.

Now that he's out, White must refrain from using one of his favorite weapons.
As a condition of his probation, White is forbidden from participating in "any Internet related business or hobby involving a website, and the posting of any information on any website."

Brenda Hale, who White once deemed "a n----- in need of lynching" for her vigilance against him as president of the Roanoke chapter of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People, said she expects White to eventually go back to his old ways.

Yet in a letter to The Roanoke Times, written while he was in prison, White said he planned to withdraw from the white supremacy movement and keep his website dark upon his release. "I do not intend to recant my views," he wrote, "even if I will quiet them."
 
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Smile Caribou Barbie Worse than Pravda Bill?

Pravda Bill's lawyer correctly pointed out that Sarah Palin and others have gotten away with worse without being charged. This doesn't mean that White was not provoking fate. You don't have to be so blatant about possible threats when you post the home address of homosexual Jews. The same is true of posting the address of the "Cry Me a River" Negro Leonard Pitts. If Bill had been a bit more careful, he would have never been convicted.
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By David Kravets April 21, 2011 | 5:10 pm

A neo-Nazi found guilty of jury intimidation over a web post was released from custody this week after a federal judge reversed his conviction, a ruling his attorney said Thursday buttresses online free speech “no matter who says it.”

William A. White, the operator of now-defunct Overthrow.com, a website once affiliated with the white-supremacist American National Socialist Workers Party, was released from custody Wednesday, his attorney, Nishay Sanan, said in a telephone interview.

“This vindicates the First Amendment. The First Amendment protects popular and unpopular speech, no matter who says it,” Sanan said.

White was convicted in January of using the internet in 2008 to solicit “physical force” against a former jury foreman in a different white supremacist’s appeal. He was incarcerated at a Chicago jail pending the outcome of his petition to have his conviction set aside.

His crime: Among other things, White posted the name, address, picture and telephone numbers of one of the jurors who convicted white supremacist Matthew Hale. At the time, Hale was appealing his 480-month prison term for soliciting the murder of a federal judge.

White posted the juror’s information under the headline, “Hale Seeks to Have Sentence Overturned” with the sub header of “Gay Jewish Anti-Racist Led Jury.”


A federal judge tossed White’s indictment in 2008 on grounds that “it failed to allege a solicitation” for physical force to be used against the juror, and as “contrary to the First Amendment,” U.S. District Judge Lynn Adelman wrote then.

A federal appeals court reinstated the indictment, (.pdf) ordering Adelman to hold a trial. After White was tried by an anonymous jury in January, he petitioned the judge to acquit him.

Adelman agreed, saying White’s posts “did not suggest or imply that anyone do anything” and that “I am convinced that no reasonable factfinder considering the posts and the context in which they were made could conclude, based on an objective standard, that they constitute a solicitation.” (.pdf)

Sanan expected the government to appeal Adelman’s decision. The government did not immediately respond for comment.

The former jury foreman testified that he began receiving text messages after White posted his information. The texts, he testified, said things like “sodomize Obama, Bomb China, kill McCain, cremated Jews, all these really upsetting things.”

He added that none of the texts threatened his life or said, “I’m coming to get you.”

Sanan said his client’s behavior was peanuts compared to Sarah Palin’s online antics. A so-called “hit list” of 20 politicians targeted with “rifle sights” graphics included Gabrielle Giffords, the Arizona representative shot in January. The sarahpac.com site said, “Let’s take back the 20, together.”

“Sarah Palin had put her on a website with a scoped and target,” Sanan said, “and nobody was charged.”
 
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Bill White's website had some of the most interesting content around at the time. He had a flair for rewording news items in a way that emphasized the point he was making. Fortunately much of Overthrow.com material is still available.
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Bill White's website had some of the most interesting content around at the time. He had a flair for rewording news items in a way that emphasized the point he was making. Fortunately much of Overthrow.com material is still available.
You are absolutely right about Pravda Bill. He had a flair for twisting the dragon's tail and getting away with it. He got a bit too bold in the end however. That will work only with a toothless dragon. This post from the Wayback machine is an example of him doing it correctly.
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Contempt Charges For "Threatening" Department Of Justice Official Dismissed, With Prejudice, Against Bill White
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Virginia Beach, Virginia -- US District Court Judge Rebecca B Smith this morning dismissed contempt charges against William A White, publisher of this website and Commander of the American National Socialist Workers Party, ruling that his publication of the addresses of a US Department of Justice Civil Rights attorney and second, private attorney general representing a group of civil rights plaintiffs was not criminal or contemptuous.

In a hearing earlier this month, Kevin Mottley, an attorney with Troutman Sanders, who represented a group of Negro tenants of Dr James Henry, a Virginia Beach landlord, testified, in tears, about the "fear" White had placed him in and how he had had to hire police bodyguards to protect his home after White published his address and phone number on this website.

Later, Lori K Wagner, an attorney representing the US Department of Justice in the case, demanded that White be arrested and charged with a felony after he published her home address and urged supporters to write her letters or drop by to discuss their views on the case.

In open court last month, Wager and Mottley said that they were considering settling the case out of fear of White and the American National Socialist Workers Party. They testified that their fear of White was interfering with their ability to prosecute Henry, and that they had diverted hundreds of hours of staff time for seven lawyers and over $250,000 to prosecuting White for contempt.
 
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Pravda Bill's lawyer correctly pointed out that Sarah Palin and others have gotten away with worse without being charged. This doesn't mean that White was not provoking fate. You don't have to be so blatant about possible threats when you post the home address of homosexual Jews. The same is true of posting the address of the "Cry Me a River" Negro Leonard Pitts. If Bill had been a bit more careful, he would have never been convicted.
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Just for clarification:

In the charges related to Leonard Pitts, the Roanoke jury failed to convict. The "homosexual jews" case [in Chicago] resulted in : first, a tossed indictment, and subsequently a tossed jury verdict. Bill White was ultimately convicted in neither case.
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Just for clarification:

In the charges related to Leonard Pitts, the Roanoke jury failed to convict. The "homosexual jews" case [in Chicago] resulted in : first, a tossed indictment, and subsequently a tossed jury verdict. Bill White was ultimately convicted in neither case.
I stand corrected on the details. However my point is still valid. The addresses and phone numbers could have been posted in a less incriminating manner that would not have made it feasible to arrest him in the first place. If he had not been convicted on any counts he could have successfully sued the FBI for millions of dollars.

Note in the old Overthrow post above it is suggested that readers can call the party concerned and discuss the matter. It is further suggested that readers could visit the party concerned to discuss it. There is NO suggestion of violence or ANY illegal activity. This is the way that he should have been doing it the whole time. His convictions stem from remarks like "kill this nigger" and similar ones.
 
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He certainly can. Those of us in ARA have a strong presence here.
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Judging by the name Adelman, the judge who released Pravda Bill is one of The Chosen People. His Wiki biography or http://www.wisconsinhistory.org/dict...h_term=adelman does not address the matter of race.
 
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