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Old September 10th, 2014 #61
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A chess master's goal at the beginning of the game is to make good first moves that get him set up properly.
And usually those first moves don't include an immediate attack on the queen. The queen is too well defended at the beginning of the game.

That was the theme of this reminder that was my first comment on the BUGS thread that included the issue with Jimmy/seapea:


#12 by Henry Davenport on 09/06/2014 - 3:22 pm

We don’t do Jews!

Bob has stressed that many times.

Mentioning jews collapses your Mantra message to “I’m a naziwhowantstokillsixmillionjews”

Anti-whites took control of the “jew” meme long ago and spent decades arming it to the teeth.

The Mantra doesn’t throw itself onto sharpened anti-white memes that are poisoned pointed stakes.

The Mantra spreads its own memes of “White Genocide,” “anti-white,” “etc. that remold the mass White mind and remold what’s permitted to be said in public conversation.

But many new BUGSters arrive here fresh from the pro-White cult that brainwashes all its adherents that we MUST talk about Jews.

They are like the Whites who arrive at their new all-white neighborhood after fleeing their old neighborhood where diversity wasn’t working, and then repeat their brainwashing, “I love this neighborhood, but it lacks diversity.”

Pro-whites arrive at BUGS from wherever talking about jews wasn’t working, and then repeat their brainwashing, “The Mantra is great, I love it, but I should also talk about jews.”

Duh.

That doesn’t happen too often, but when it does, it’s a real pain in the @ss.

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Old September 10th, 2014 #62
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WN, and even Whites, need to embrace the label "racist", because it is not going away. The more Whites hear other Whites say, "If being against White genocide makes me a racist, then I'm a proud racist" the sooner the average White will become comfortable with the label and it will lose it power.


There is no way for a White "liberal" to argue with the "its about genocide" mantra without exposing their true vindictive and vicious nature.
There is no such thing as racism. There is only perfectly normal natural ethnocentrism.
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Old September 10th, 2014 #63
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Here's something a BUGSer wanted me to post here for him:

http://www.talkshoe.com/talkshoe/web...95897&cmd=apop

This exchange from the BUGS thread will explain what it is for anyone who is interested.

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I’m not a member of VNN forum. If anyone could PLEASE copy and paste the show that I did with ______ showing how our techniques work compared 2 a joosers I would greatly appreciate it. This was a LIVE exercise we were dealing with an actual antiwhite and it’s paramount to bobs article.



#100 by Henry Davenport on 09/10/2014 - 2:32 pm
You or someone paste it here and I’ll copy and post it there.

I haven’t had a chance to listen to it yet…I hear you kicked butt royally!

But to a typically dense pro-white, will it seem like the jooser made telling points and you just repeated yourself foolishly? Ha!

Let’s post it anyway. It’s always possible that someone able to understand will listen to it.

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That’s it, Jimmy, get it out of your system, lol!

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Old September 10th, 2014 #64
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There is no such thing as racism. There is only perfectly normal natural ethnocentrism.
You likely mean to equate racism to geno-centrism.

Either way, you are not going to out scribe the jew scribes or out sophist the jew sophist. Let the jew manufacture the labels and and their shabbos goy call names. Embrace it all with a confident: "If being against genocide means I'm a X, then I'm proudly a X". Unlike diversity, immigration, "affirmative action", etc., there is no way to defend genocide. And only all but the most pathologically hateful "liberal" will be able to see that.
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Old September 10th, 2014 #65
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We don’t do Jews!

Bob has stressed that many times.
Ask not what the Bobavan says, but watch what he does.

I've seen The Bobavan exculpate jews on more than one occasion in open forums with both pro-whites and anti-whites in participation.

Whenever anyone points out that jews are the primary force behind white genocide, Bobavan has a canned response:

"I'm not interested in conspiracy theories about Illuminati, Carbonari or Jews."

Bobavan covers for jews, who cover for niggers, who rape and murder white women and children.

Become a BUGSer. Follow the Bobavan. Help jews hush up the rapes and murders of white women and children by nigger savages. Support jew media's efforts to lure more white women and children to their deaths.

Cover their tracks, so they can murder more whites.

Spread the word and recruit more white genocidal automatons.

Sniff around behind real life white activists. Sabotage their efforts. Censor their words. Wreck their websites.

Last but not least, denounce them as traitors.

Be all that you can be. Join BUGS today.

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Old September 10th, 2014 #66
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Btw, nothing could be more different than the approach of American Renaissance's Jared Taylor and the approach from BUGS, as this comment on a thread about Jared at White GeNOcide Project points out:

Join Mr. Jared Taylor of American Renaissance in a Meditation on White Genocide
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You white devils can’t get your bro’ to use the term “anti-white” more than once in a speech?! LMAO at all of you!

In my organizing days I sure didn’t have any trouble getting the brothers to use the term “racist” twenty or thirty times in every conversation!

You white devils need to get your you-know-what together!

I’ll know you’re really getting somewhere when you get that Taylor dude to start saying “anti-racist is a code word for anti-white”!
I doubt anyone here is much interested in Jared, but if anyone is, here's a couple of other threads on him at White GeNOcide Project that stemmed from his unwillingness to allow much Mantra on his site (reasonable from someone running the kind of site he does, now that I look back on it) and a subsequent email exchange with him:

Too Hard to Awaken Whites to White Genocide? An Exchange with Jared Taylor
A Further Exchange with Jared Taylor on White Genocide
 
Old September 10th, 2014 #67
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Taylor and Whitaker. Bad cop, good cop.

The lines of acceptable discourse in WN always end up absolutely excluding jews. Why is that?
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Old September 10th, 2014 #68
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Taylor and Whitaker. Bad cop, good cop.

The lines of acceptable discourse in WN always end up absolutely excluding jews. Why is that?
Because that's the ONLY thing that YOU care about, and we just don't like YOU

I answered your question in my comment above, before you asked it. Please try the novel approach of reading my comment, Sean Gruber.
 
Old September 10th, 2014 #69
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It's like memes to spread among / appeal to the wusses. In that regard, it's effective, I think. But white politics must get out of that democratic pandering mode. That mindset in which we have to appeal to people. Our cause is the ultimate example of selling itself. As I've said 1000x, look who whites marry. Look where whites move. This proves they're WN. They just wont admit it, for PC reasons. People do want what we're advocating. But they won't join a formal political cause, because of their fears, amply and continually stoked by the jewsmedia and all other official vectors. This FEAR is what has to be overcome, and you don't overcome fear by pandering but by leading - as Jimmy Marr does. Verbally, you overcome fear by laughing more than by formal logical argument. Few seem to grasp this. If Jimmy Marr is not afraid, maybe...maybe I can not be afraid. Or be marginally less afraid. People learn from example more than by formal thought. Even really smart people.

Look - online is like a classroom. Who dominates a classroom? Either the teacher. Or the bad boy. The jews are the teach. Prim-lipped, hectoring, lecturing, scolding, telling everyone else to shut up and take notes.

WN needs to be the bad boy. Not the apple-polishing straight-A girl student who has neat margins and perfect handwriting but is essentially an unthinking hominid parrot.

The bad boy can use the facts as part of his material, but he's selling the jokes, the charisma, the raw fucking SEX APPEAL. We are the edgy. We are the dark. We are not nazi clowns, that's not what I mean, we are the ones who dare say what need to be said, who laugh at all the horseshit circulated out there, diversity being a strength, MLK being a godlike creature (as a conservative said yesterday).

The jews big-dog our people. They bark and scare them into whimpering. You don't overcome that by logical arguments but by bigger-dogging. That's how the original national socialists beat the jew-commies. They were the bigger dog in every possible way.

Fuck those little jews up. Remind they're a bunch of lying little pasty-faced armchair general nerds. Sending those brave Southern donut-heads off to fight their battles.

Make people FEEL their own ridiculousness. Make them smart in irritation or embarrassment. Make them feel dumb for not having realized what we're saying earlier. Don't get up early for your 100th hike up Prove-It Mountain, you dutiful loser. Make them feel like they've known what you're saying all along, like it's the most obvious thing in the world, like everybody-knows-it. Then you enlis their animal feelings, their social conformity. The joke contains the argument, it doesn't need to be spelled out. Why should I cite black crime stats when I can say nigger? But of course I use the stats over time, there are places, but on the whole, using nigger is 100x more powerful because it implies and contains all the formal arguments.

We are right. We need to accept that. Our basis - logic and evidence - is unimpeachable. Accept that and use the stuff in the way most likely to help us - as part of our mocking fodder in our endless attack on any who stand in our race's way.
I completely agree. Far too many, even WN's, think of this as a fair fight, where we just have to appeal to people. That's not what this is about. It is not about pleasing the elites. That's a delusion. The entire system, today, is modeled to ensure the destruction of the Western world and the white race. It is a war of racial survival and competing world-views. Those can never reconcile.

So in that regard I very much agree with your attempt to create a Team White vs Team jew-scenario. We need to be aggressive, consistent, principled and hard-working. The jews didn't conquer our civilization by being 'tolerant' or overlooking differences. Either you're with us, and if not, then fuck off!
 
Old September 10th, 2014 #70
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Very interesting.

You know, I have noticed that LewRockwell has gone this direction the last few years. He did not touch that stuff the first 5-8 years, now he routinely uses alexjones type CT stuff. He has damaged his reputation in my eyes, I don't know about his readers. Of course CT is fine wherever there are facts, or speculation is labeled as such, but his writers begin to go farther.
It's clickbait. Stupid, sensational articles presented as truth drive web traffic. The modern tabloid, or taking it way back, the sideshow. Huffington Post, Zerohedge, TheBlaze, and the OG web tabloid pioneer Drudge all sacrifice integrity for clicks.

Rockwell may have got lazy and delegated the site. There was a drop in quality when Ron Paul went viral in 2008, and Rockwell was suddenly a popular guest on political programs, so maybe he didn't have the time. Whatever the cause the site has lost 30 IQ points.
 
Old September 10th, 2014 #71
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The reason why Horace da Wabbit keeps mentioning the Berlin Wall is probably that Bob Whitaker claims to have caused the wall to come down through his clever wordsmithing. This is ridiculous bullshit on Whitaker's part.
He thinks his observation that communist countries have to put up walls to keep people in struck the fatal blow that brought the wall down. That's laughable, and I doubt he was the first to coin the meme.
 
Old September 11th, 2014 #72
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One thing that the BUGSters like to say is, "The Mantra is working!"

They don't seem to be able to explain what "working" means, except quantitatively, in terms of how many places it's posted and how many people were exposed to it. Qualitatively, what effect their Mantra has does not seem to be evaluated at all.

Likewise they were counting their great success with the Anti-Racist Hitler cartoon in terms of how many had seen it, but didn't take into account that some significant portion of those who had seen it couldn't figure out what it was supposed to convey (which was predictable given its use of inside jokes like paraphrases of Barbara Spector).

A qualitative evaluation of the Mantra's effect would involve finding out what people think about it. Does the Mantra's use of the word genocide seem accurate or does it seem like hysterical hyperbole? Has exposure to the Mantra altered anybody's thinking or is it only embraced as a slogan by people who were already concerned about the racial situation? Do people who post the Mantra come across as annoying cultish freaks?

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If the BUGS-tards do not perceive the jew as the conceiving, planing, implementing, and promoting the scheme of White genocide, who do they believe is behind the true diabolical architects of the scheme?
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They don't seem to be able to explain what "working" means

Their idea of the mantra "working" is 5 green thumbs up on a Youtube comment on a pro-white video that only pro-white people watch.
 
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If the BUGS-tards do not perceive the jew as the conceiving, planing, implementing, and promoting the scheme of White genocide, who do they believe is behind the true architects of the scheme?
If you wish to know who runs BUGS, ask yourself who they are not allowed to criticize - VoltAryan
 
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If you wish to know who runs BUGS, ask yourself who they are not allowed to criticize - VoltAryan

Sure. But I wanted to know who is the sinister force behind whatever conspiracy theory the BUGS-tards are promoting?

Wonder if the jew has the chutzpah to claim the WN.
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Sure. But I wanted to know who is the sinister force behind whatever conspiracy theory the BUGS-tards are promoting?

Wonder if the jew has the chutzpah to claim the WN.
Indirect connections/references to the work of Joseph P. Farrell, who's a conspiracy theorist who postulates that Nazis survived the war and continue to wreak havoc in current affairs.
 
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Indirect connections/references to the work of Joseph P. Farrell, who's a conspiracy theorist who postulates that Nazis survived the war and continue to wreak havoc in current affairs.
Joseph P Farrell and Jim Marrs are these two INCREDIBLY intelligent, incredibly well researched geniuses that despite all their supposed genius and research abilities still manage to believe in the EVIL of the Nazis and the Holohoax to the letter

When in reality any half wit with a double digit IQ can easily debunk the 6 million lie and the "evil Nazi" myth in a single afternoon of research on the internet. Yet these two fools still propagate this nonsense like its fact. Yeah they sound like real geniuses and people to be trusted to me


"Horus" the rabbit cites this SHILL constantly as well I might add as some kind of genius researcher who is pro white.
I've listened to practically every podcast of Joseph P Farrell and he certainly isnt pro-white. In fact I'd go for to say he is an anti-racist anti-white and especially anti German.

In one of his books "genes giant monsters and men" Joseph Farrell claims that whites have the most mixed DNA of all the races and in reality are the "least pure" race on the planet. So he says the idea that racist whites trying to protect their purity is ridiculous. This guy is anti-white as they come. I actually think he may be worse than Alex Jones.

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Old September 11th, 2014 #79
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official definitions for the word 'conservative'

1. Favoring traditional views and values; tending to oppose change.

Is this what we want? We don't want things to change? Are you fucking kidding me? not a conservative.

2. Traditional or restrained in style

all of our 'restraint' has gotten everyone so far, while their utter lack of 'restraint' has gotten them wildly successful gains.

3. Moderate; cautious.

Yes, keep being moderate and cautious as they drag your sons and daughters back to the public rape caves/schools.

4. Of or relating to the political philosophy of conservatism.

evidence of modern retardism, official dictionary uses word in the definition of the word.
 
Old September 11th, 2014 #80
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Sorry but I don't believe that if Pat Buchanan weren't making TV appearances it would be Alex Linder there instead.

Buchanan actually is respectful of at least some people that are openly more radical than he is. Back in 1988 they had a skinhead, Michael Palasch, as a guest on Crossfire and as I recall Buchanan was quite fair. I had a brief correspondence with Buchanan about the article that I wrote about him and he was friendly enough.

He wrote that book that called the Second World War "the unnecessary war." Whom do you think that helps?

Incidentally, since this thread is about the BUGSters, Buchanan puts the BUGSters to shame. He broaches a number of issues that the BUGSters say should be left alone.
How did Buchanan treat Duke?

You simply don't get people or politics.
 
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