Vanguard News Network
VNN Media
VNN Digital Library
VNN Reader Mail
VNN Broadcasts

Old December 9th, 2004 #1
Skunk
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Randy Evans Makes Statement Regarding Glenn Miller

A Statement from Randy Evans - United States Penitentiary

But First a Word from John Gerhardt

There have been falsehoods circulating about what some of us call a movement trying to induce racialists to accept back in known traitor & informant Glen Miller. There are those who were around in the 80's when the Ft Smith trials took place, at which Richard Butler, Louis Beam, Bob Miles & the Order prisoners were defendants. Miller was one of the star witnesses against the defendants. Those who were around then & KNOW what happened, & tell you different are plain lying to you. When a so-called "leader" endorses a known traitor & informant, just what is he endorsing & supporting ? Isn't he endorsing & supporting ratting on fellow racialists & working with ZOG to try to put racialists in prison ? If you want to continue to support such a "leader," aren't you then supporting that "leader's" endorsement of ratting out fellow racialists & helping ZOG try to imprison fellow racialists? Have you considered what messages this is sending out ?

1, to traitors & informants, past, current or future, the message you send is, go ahead & be an informant. That's OK. No only will nothing serious happen to you. but when ZOG finishes rewarding you, come on back, we'll reward you, too.

2, to political prisoners, well, you're in there, the informant is out here where he can help sell my papers or whatever. What did you say your name was again? You should have figured it out by now, but we never really cared about you any way, so sit in there & rot while we welcome those who betrayed you. Screw you.

3, to everyone else, the question, just how weak, how stupid, how morally bankrupt, how worthless has a so-called "movement" become to allow something like this to happen ? Who would want to support something like that ? By the way, all of you love to run around spouting "14 Words," the author of those 14 Words, David Lane, was one of the Ft Smith defendants against who Miller testified. Randy Evans, one of "The Order" prisoners & also a member of CLA, submitted his statement in affidavit form, which I now share with you below. Those of you with your own e-mail lists & websites should also share this with your readers. Those who don't, the question will be, why ? Do you endorse & support known traitors & informants, or are you a fake & phony lets pretend racialist, or a moral coward ? I will include Randy's address at the bottom, after the affidavit.

John W Gerhardt
Christian Legal Association
P.O. Box 713
Johnstown, Ohio 43031

STATEMENT OF ORDER PRISONER RANDY EVANS ON THE TRAITOR & INFORMANT GLEN MILLER & ON THOSE PRETENDING TO STILL BE WHITE "LEADERS" WHILE OPENLY SUPPORTING KNOWN TRAITORS & INFORMANTS



I, Randall Evans, upon the blood of my ancestors and the Evans name do hereby state the following:

1) That I was convicted as a member of the Order.

2) that Glen Miller, formerly of the Klan in North Carolina, testified against Pastor Butler, Pastor Robert Miles, Louis Beam, my co-defendants Richard Scutari, Bruce Pierce, Andrew Barnhill, David Lane and others during a sedition trial in Ft Smith, Arkansas during the late 1980's.

3) That to make this perfectly clear Glen Miller was a government witness that did his best to put the foregoing persons into prison, although some were already incarcerated (my co-defendants & me).

4) That at no time has Glen Miller helped any of my co-defendants nor me since he became a government witness, agent, informant, otherwise known as a "RAT."

5) That let it be known that from my and others perspectives, "birds of a feather flock together," and anyone associating with, promoting, allowing into their organizations in any capacity in any form whatsoever must also be considered a government RAT to be BANISHED and OSTRACIZED from the honorable of our Race. "A RAT is a RAT--A FRIEND of a RAT is a RAT."

6) That only a fool would allow a known rat amongst their ranks in lieu of past white separatist history wherein our people have been victims of COINTELPRO type operations such as Ruby Ridge and many more. This goes for any RAT out there amongst our ranks and those that associate with same.

Signed on the 2nd Day of December, 2004,

Randall Evans

To write to Randy Evans, for at least a month until his pending transfer, he may be reached at:

Randy Evans 09882-016
United States Penitentiary - Atwater
P.O. Box 019001
Atwater, California 95301




THE CHURCH OF THE SONS OF YHVH P.O. BOX 165 CALHOUN, LOUISIANA 71225
 
Old December 9th, 2004 #2
Skunk
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default On Glenn Miller: Order member Randy Evans speaks

A Statement from Randy Evans - United States Penitentiary

But First a Word from John Gerhardt

There have been falsehoods circulating about what some of us call a movement trying to induce racialists to accept back in known traitor & informant Glen Miller. There are those who were around in the 80's when the Ft Smith trials took place, at which Richard Butler, Louis Beam, Bob Miles & the Order prisoners were defendants. Miller was one of the star witnesses against the defendants. Those who were around then & KNOW what happened, & tell you different are plain lying to you. When a so-called "leader" endorses a known traitor & informant, just what is he endorsing & supporting ? Isn't he endorsing & supporting ratting on fellow racialists & working with ZOG to try to put racialists in prison ? If you want to continue to support such a "leader," aren't you then supporting that "leader's" endorsement of ratting out fellow racialists & helping ZOG try to imprison fellow racialists? Have you considered what messages this is sending out ?

1, to traitors & informants, past, current or future, the message you send is, go ahead & be an informant. That's OK. No only will nothing serious happen to you. but when ZOG finishes rewarding you, come on back, we'll reward you, too.

2, to political prisoners, well, you're in there, the informant is out here where he can help sell my papers or whatever. What did you say your name was again? You should have figured it out by now, but we never really cared about you any way, so sit in there & rot while we welcome those who betrayed you. Screw you.

3, to everyone else, the question, just how weak, how stupid, how morally bankrupt, how worthless has a so-called "movement" become to allow something like this to happen ? Who would want to support something like that ? By the way, all of you love to run around spouting "14 Words," the author of those 14 Words, David Lane, was one of the Ft Smith defendants against who Miller testified. Randy Evans, one of "The Order" prisoners & also a member of CLA, submitted his statement in affidavit form, which I now share with you below. Those of you with your own e-mail lists & websites should also share this with your readers. Those who don't, the question will be, why ? Do you endorse & support known traitors & informants, or are you a fake & phony lets pretend racialist, or a moral coward ? I will include Randy's address at the bottom, after the affidavit.

John W Gerhardt
Christian Legal Association
P.O. Box 713
Johnstown, Ohio 43031

STATEMENT OF ORDER PRISONER RANDY EVANS ON THE TRAITOR & INFORMANT GLEN MILLER & ON THOSE PRETENDING TO STILL BE WHITE "LEADERS" WHILE OPENLY SUPPORTING KNOWN TRAITORS & INFORMANTS



I, Randall Evans, upon the blood of my ancestors and the Evans name do hereby state the following:

1) That I was convicted as a member of the Order.

2) that Glen Miller, formerly of the Klan in North Carolina, testified against Pastor Butler, Pastor Robert Miles, Louis Beam, my co-defendants Richard Scutari, Bruce Pierce, Andrew Barnhill, David Lane and others during a sedition trial in Ft Smith, Arkansas during the late 1980's.

3) That to make this perfectly clear Glen Miller was a government witness that did his best to put the foregoing persons into prison, although some were already incarcerated (my co-defendants & me).

4) That at no time has Glen Miller helped any of my co-defendants nor me since he became a government witness, agent, informant, otherwise known as a "RAT."

5) That let it be known that from my and others perspectives, "birds of a feather flock together," and anyone associating with, promoting, allowing into their organizations in any capacity in any form whatsoever must also be considered a government RAT to be BANISHED and OSTRACIZED from the honorable of our Race. "A RAT is a RAT--A FRIEND of a RAT is a RAT."

6) That only a fool would allow a known rat amongst their ranks in lieu of past white separatist history wherein our people have been victims of COINTELPRO type operations such as Ruby Ridge and many more. This goes for any RAT out there amongst our ranks and those that associate with same.

Signed on the 2nd Day of December, 2004,

Randall Evans

To write to Randy Evans, for at least a month until his pending transfer, he may be reached at:

Randy Evans 09882-016
United States Penitentiary - Atwater
P.O. Box 019001
Atwater, California 95301




THE CHURCH OF THE SONS OF YHVH P.O. BOX 165 CALHOUN, LOUISIANA 71225
 
Old December 9th, 2004 #3
Aryan Skin
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

From my friend John Gerhardt....

It would be a little easier to post a response if they would let me in, which they just blocked. What would I have done? I know what I DID when I faced the heat. I held firm, betrayed no one, refused to discuss any deals with anyone. No one, incidentally, offered me any deals to counter informants used against me. That doesn't seem to be normal procedure, after they have secured someone becoming a traitor & informant. And I remained firm throughout my whole time of imprisonment. Because of this, I've never had to resort to LYING about others such as Miller has just done about the Order prisoner. As for being a coward, here Miller is making these accusations, stating these LIES against the Order prisoners, who are in prison & not quite as able to get their own side of the story out. Which is probably why the rat Miller thought he could get away with some of his earlier spins trying to tell people he helped the Order, when he only helped ZOG. By the way, what about Richard Butler & Bob Miles, now both deceased? Care to defame them by accusing them of being as much of a rat as you?
 
Old December 9th, 2004 #4
Aryan Skin
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

You said that you could name a dozen and asked if I wanted you to name them. I replied with a yes name them, but look whoose slithering away. Don't issue me a challenge asswipe, name the dozen.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rounder
I have nothing to do with banning anyone. I tried to get norcal, that gook anima enima and several others banned, but couldn't. I'm just the Tabloid Clerk here, and run my mouth freely like everybody else.

You're quite obviously very ignorant as regards my association with The Order. Go read my signature below. Then come back here and deny one word in it. I dare you. Since you accuse me of lying, putting spins on my posts, defaming others without justification, and making false accusations, then you ought to be able to list just one. So list one.

And since you can't and won't, then by deduction in simple logic, you're not only the GD liar, but a confessed liar.

Now VNN'ers, just watch him slither away, or completely ignore everything I've just said and kike-like, resume his name calling in lieu of answering me. Which is what the juvenile brats, and loonies have been doing for the past 9 months I've been on this forum.

Well John Gerhardt (is that your real name?), are you gonna list one? VNN'ers are waiting. . . . .Daaaaaaa...
 
Old December 9th, 2004 #5
Skunk
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

No, Alex does all the banning from behind the scenes, and the list of people who have been banned for attacking RAT MILLER is a long one. As for John Gerhard he didn't post on this forum - I did. It's very possible he doesn't even know that post is here - so stop playing the red herring RAT MILLER. He's not here to answer your call, but he left his address as well as Randy Evans address.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rounder
I have nothing to do with banning anyone. I tried to get norcal, that gook anima enima and several others banned, but couldn't. I'm just the Tabloid Clerk here, and run my mouth freely like everybody else.

You're quite obviously very ignorant as regards my association with The Order. Go read my signature below. Then come back here and deny one word in it. I dare you. Since you accuse me of lying, putting spins on my posts, defaming others without justification, and making false accusations, then you ought to be able to list just one. So list one.

And since you can't and won't, then by deduction in simple logic, you're not only the GD liar, but a confessed liar.

Now VNN'ers, just watch him slither away, or completely ignore everything I've just said and kike-like, resume his name calling in lieu of answering me. Which is what the juvenile brats, and loonies have been doing for the past 9 months I've been on this forum.

Well John Gerhardt (is that your real name?), are you gonna list one? VNN'ers are waiting. . . . .Daaaaaaa...
 
Old December 9th, 2004 #6
MidnightSun
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rounder
I just responded to this same post in the Main Discussion Forum.

So where are you Skunk-Runt? Get your ass over here and answer the question: "What would you have done in my summer 1985 shoes, after a dozen Order members had ratted on me, and two more (Pierce and Lane) tried to ???

And do bring John Gerhard (whoever he is) on this forum to face me man-to-man, one-on-one in fair, free, and open debate. I dare him !!!
Get your ass over here and answer my question.

Rounder said this after Panzerfaust was raided:


Quote:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rounder
Any WN witnessing any WN leader taking drugs or dealing in drugs, ought to turn his ass in to the cops anyway. That's not informing. That's not ratting. That's justice.


It is not honorable to welcome a known informant who testified against his own brothers. And it is clear that Miller has every intention of informing on WNs now and in the future.

Your excuse is that "everyone else is doing it" so...If WNs are being raided lately I would naturally suspect it to be due to Miller who defends his right to rat as "justice." For all I know, perhaps it was you who ratted on Panzerfaust, do you deny this?
 
Old December 9th, 2004 #7
Franco
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: USA
Posts: 5,017
Blog Entries: 4
Default

-


Mods, please ban all of the people who have come to VNNF solely to argue about the Miller case. It has already been argued. It is old news.


----
 
Old December 9th, 2004 #8
MidnightSun
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Franco
-


Mods, please ban all of the people who have come to VNNF solely to argue about the Miller case. It has already been argued. It is old news.


----
You're a trash talking crazy person who belongs in an asylum.
 
Old December 9th, 2004 #9
Franco
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: USA
Posts: 5,017
Blog Entries: 4
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by MidnightSun
Get your ass over here and answer my question.

Rounder said this after Panzerfaust was raided:






It is not honorable to welcome a known informant who testified against his own brothers. And it is clear that Miller has every intention of informing on WNs now and in the future.

Your excuse is that "everyone else is doing it" so...If WNs are being raided lately I would naturally suspect it to be due to Miller who defends his right to rat as "justice." For all I know, perhaps it was you who ratted on Panzerfaust, do you deny this?

Fuck off.


----
 
Old December 9th, 2004 #10
Skunk
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

I've answered your question RAT MILLER. As for John Gerhard - I believe he left his mailing address. And you should know by now that a "free and open debate" on VNNF is not tolerated by Alex when it comes to you. People have a way of being disappeared around here!

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rounder
I just responded to this same post in the Main Discussion Forum.

So where are you Skunk-Runt? Get your ass over here and answer the question: "What would you have done in my summer 1985 shoes, after a dozen Order members had ratted on me, and two more (Pierce and Lane) tried to ???

And do bring John Gerhard (whoever he is) on this forum to face me man-to-man, one-on-one in fair, free, and open debate. I dare him !!!
 
Old December 9th, 2004 #11
Franco
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: USA
Posts: 5,017
Blog Entries: 4
Default

-


Ok - what is the purpose of your post??? The Glenn Miller matter has been talked about here at VNNF until no one wants to talk about it anymore. It's been done. It's over.

I suggest that the post be moved to the Chutzpah [now called Nutzpah] area of the forum.




[edited]


-------

Last edited by Franco; December 9th, 2004 at 02:47 AM.
 
Old December 9th, 2004 #12
Skunk
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Speak for yourself

Speak for yourself. Glenn Miller has had a thousand opportunities to run his mouth and tell his side - THE ORDER MEMBERS DESERVE NO LESS!

This post doesn't belong in Nutzpah it is exactly where it belongs. You seem to be afraid of something having it posted here.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Franco
-


Ok - what is the purpose of your post??? The Glenn Miller matter has been talked about here at VNNF until no one wants to talk about it anymore. It's been done. It's over.

I suggest that the post be moved to the Chutzpah [now called Nutzpah] area of the forum.




[edited]


-------
 
Old December 9th, 2004 #13
Franco
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: USA
Posts: 5,017
Blog Entries: 4
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Skunk
Speak for yourself. Glenn Miller has had a thousand opportunities to run his mouth and tell his side - THE ORDER MEMBERS DESERVE NO LESS!

This post doesn't belong in Nutzpah it is exactly where it belongs. You seem to be afraid of something having it posted here.


VNNF does not exist to re-argue the Miller matter over and over and over and over again.

If you don't like Miller, why post at VNNF? Maybe you should find another forum.

And, have you ever been banned from VNNF before?


-------
 
Old December 9th, 2004 #14
Skunk
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Randy Evans Speaks For The First Time On Vnnf!

This is the FIRST opportunity that Randy Evans has had to make his case. His letter is written on Dec. 2, 2004, so it is timely and appropriate. IF this is a "forum" then he has every right to be heard.

I didn't know that liking Miller was a requirement to post on this forum. Where is that rule? Please direct me to it. Do you only want preaching to the choir? And wtf do you think you are anyway? You are one person on this forum...I didn't know that you had been appointed watch dog and here to make up rules that suit you.

Don't be so afraid of free and open speech little man.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Franco
VNNF does not exist to re-argue the Miller matter over and over and over and over again.

If you don't like Miller, why post at VNNF? Maybe you should find another forum.

And, have you ever been banned from VNNF before?


-------
 
Old December 9th, 2004 #15
Franco
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: USA
Posts: 5,017
Blog Entries: 4
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Skunk
This is the FIRST opportunity that Randy Evans has had to make his case. His letter is written on Dec. 2, 2004, so it is timely and appropriate. IF this is a "forum" then he has every right to be heard.

I didn't know that liking Miller was a requirement to post on this forum. Where is that rule? Please direct me to it. Do you only want preaching to the choir? And wtf do you think you are anyway? You are one person on this forum...I didn't know that you had been appointed watch dog and here to make up rules that suit you.

Don't be so afraid of free and open speech little man.

Say....your name isn't.....Gunter88, is it?



-----
 
Old December 9th, 2004 #16
Aryan Skin
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Glenn Miller the "rat"

OH OK I get it MIller. Everyones a rat except you ehh. The men you refer to as "Order rats" are sitting the rest of their lives in prison and you a free man who testified against them have the nerve to call them rats. Crawl back under your rock Miller. I suspect that your pals here at VNN will never allow this to be posted. But the fact is you are the "rat" who runs free bad mouthing good men who will most likely spend the rest of their days in prison, you scum !
 
Old December 9th, 2004 #17
Sean Martin
......
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Posts: 9,397
Default

Re: Miller

I have a question for you. It seems that at times you flip flop on the Order. Some times you call them rats because they landed you in prison and other times you talk about how brave and honorable they are.

I recognize what they did to you was wrong, but at times it seems you forget about it.

I am just curious about that. It would probably help you against your critic if you stayed more consistent on order matters.
__________________
http://www.vnnforum.com/showpost.php...64&postcount=9
Doppelhaken, Draco, Richard H, ToddinFl, Augustus Sutter, Chain, Subrosa, Jarl, White Will, whose next?
 
Old December 9th, 2004 #18
Aryan Skin
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Yes name the dozen you lying ass wipe !

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rounder
Your ignorance of The Order is making a fool of you. I put no one in jail. Period. Order members were put in jail by the dozen Order members who ratted on them during The Order trial in Seattle, WA in early 1986. Do you want me to name the dozen?

You say I bad mouth good men. What good men? David Lane and Bruce Pierce? Was Bruce Pierce a good man in Mar 85 when he confessed to the feds and told them The Order have given me stolen money?

Was David Lane a good man in Jan 85 when he asked me to help hide him out, and then after I hide him out for two months, tried to make a deal with the Colorado US Attorney in exchange for not more than 6 years in prison, after his arrest in Apr 85?

Was the dozen Order members who became government witnesses after their arrests in Summer 85 and told the feds everything they knew about me accepting stolen money, helping Lane hide out, and harboring federal fugitives, good men?

Are those the good men you say I badmouthed ? Or would you care to deny one word I've stated here?

Of course not. You'll change the subject, rant and rave vague goobily gop, resort to name calling, or just slither away like all cowardly, anonymous, do-nothing-but-talk, juvenile, computer-commandos do. Woncha ???
 
Old December 9th, 2004 #19
Skunk
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default The Five Words

It's simple RAT MILLER - you should have used Terrible Tommy's THE FIVE WORDS when dealing with ZOG "I HAVE NOTHING TO SAY". If you had done so you wouldn't have to spend the rest of your pathetic life trying to undo your dishonor as SERGEANT SNITCH! As it is - you will have to DIE A RAT! Once a RAT always a RAT!

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rounder
Your ignorance of The Order is making a fool of you. I put no one in jail. Period. Order members were put in jail by the dozen Order members who ratted on them during The Order trial in Seattle, WA in early 1986. Do you want me to name the dozen?

You say I bad mouth good men. What good men? David Lane and Bruce Pierce? Was Bruce Pierce a good man in Mar 85 when he confessed to the feds and told them The Order have given me stolen money?

Was David Lane a good man in Jan 85 when he asked me to help hide him out, and then after I hide him out for two months, tried to make a deal with the Colorado US Attorney in exchange for not more than 6 years in prison, after his arrest in Apr 85?

Was the dozen Order members who became government witnesses after their arrests in Summer 85 and told the feds everything they knew about me accepting stolen money, helping Lane hide out, and harboring federal fugitives, good men?

Are those the good men you say I badmouthed ? Or would you care to deny one word I've stated here?

Of course not. You'll change the subject, rant and rave vague goobily gop, resort to name calling, or just slither away like all cowardly, anonymous, do-nothing-but-talk, juvenile, computer-commandos do. Woncha ???
 
Old December 9th, 2004 #20
MidnightSun
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

A rat's excuse is "everyone else is doing it!" A rat is a rat is a rat.

You have never responded to my post about your recent activities.

Quote:
Rounder said this after Panzerfaust was raided:


Quote:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rounder
Any WN witnessing any WN leader taking drugs or dealing in drugs, ought to turn his ass in to the cops anyway. That's not informing. That's not ratting. That's justice.
If WNs are being raided lately I would naturally suspect it to be due to Miller who defends his right to rat as "justice." For all I know, perhaps it was you who ratted on Panzerfaust.
 
Reply

Share


Thread
Display Modes


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:52 PM.
Page generated in 0.59062 seconds.