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I am amazed how many WN leaders and followers discount the power of official support and mass media control. That's all this stuff is - Authority telling people what it's ok to do and believe, and what must be shunned. |
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Not sure why Greg's so wrong here. Are we claiming that Whites generally speaking were hardcore, Spartans-against-Persia, Dracula-against-the-Turks resisting the attack against their race but were simply overwhelmed by the raw force they were up against?
Obviously that's not true. A third of Germany died in the 30 Years War. Less than .1% of young White American men violently resisted desegregation. Hardly anyone was even willing to join Rockwell defy the assault rhetorically. It was a totally different reaction. And why would leftists and Jews spend huge amounts of their material resources on propaganda if it didn't demoralize people? If ideas didn't matter they'd just invest everything into riot police or whatever. Obviously you (Linder) realize this. You even go so far as to criticize Christianity, very harshly, and trace ideological problems back to the French revolution. But it's ludicrous to act like Greg doesn't believe White people have enemies. He says open racists are socially persecuted. He acknowledges that violence is part of the system arrayed against us ("not all a matter of force"). As far as I know no American has been officially arrested for "racism", though racists have been blatantly railroaded by the government and Greg does seem to skirt around that. The problem with Greg is that he could make his position clearer, but prefers to dance around the sides. Whites don't resist? Well, the government says they can't legally resist. So he must mean Whites don't violently resist, in large enough numbers, and that's the problem. So he wants to distribute ideas which would prepare Whites for a militant campaign, at the least, and violent revolution, if necessary. Just as the "New Left" he models his strategy on used marginal violence (and the threat of a lot more) to convince their enemies that they couldn't simply be ignored or legislated into non-existence. But he'll never say that. He wants to convince a small elite to adopt a Nietzschean warrior-ethos in order to stop their race from being destroyed. But violence? Oh, well, ya know. Violence is a part of history! It sure is. So I wouldn't not say that total pacifism isn't necessarily a moral obligation in all circumstances. This German poem from 1835 sums it up nicely! Yeah, incoming revolution! Quote:
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It's not really about Jews suffering, or Nazis poysecuting them. We're past that. This whole ordeal was the Jews' fault to start with. Most of London isn't even English anymore.
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Of course, it's not just a "manifestation"; it's the greatest propaganda weapon they ever devised to bludgeon Whites into extermination. The fact that the death grip they have on the brainwashing machinery & international finance give them the power to wield it doesn't make it insignificant - especially if you can make it crumble to dust in their hairy hands.
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When Giordano Bruno (1548-1600) suggested that the Earth orbited the Sun rather than vice versa, he was burned at the stake. A few years later when Galileo Galilei (1564-1642) said the same, he was informed that the Catholic hierarchy was already aware of it but that the people were not ready to hear it, and he was forced to recant. The idea of the heliocentric system first caught on as a dirty secret among the well informed. Only later did it become something that "everybody knows." Holohoax-revisionism is following the same pattern in the West. The Zundel trials in Canada represent the Giordano Bruno stage in the acceptance of revisionist truth. Holohoax-revisionism was adopted as the editorial position of the Iranian government in 1988, and the Muslim World generally is already far along toward accepting revisionism as what "everybody knows." You can get a partial indication of the influence of Holohoax-revisionism by doing an Internet search on the phrase, "I am not a Holocaust denier but". Two years ago, when I tried that, I got 6620 hits for "I am not a Holocaust denier but". All of the people who say this have been influenced at least to some extent by Holocaust-revisionism. http://national-socialist-worldview....istorical.html Clearly the cause of Holohoax-revisionism is far from hopeless. Why does Greggy say that it is hopeless? I think it has to be regarded in light of his support for the State of Israel. http://national-socialist-worldview....tes-white.html
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Again, how strange that intellectuals don't trust the people's ability to grasp simple facts. But PhD Goebbels did: strip it bare, lay it out. So that the meanest intelligence you're trying to reach can grasp it. He didn't say it's impossible. He said make it simple. That can - must - be done. |
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Christ almighty. You guys get so overheated in abstractions that you don't even notice my frikin' work.
http://vnnforum.com/showpost.php?p=1757717&postcount=61 I won today, but it was by the skin of my teeth, and I'll tell you why. Hadding will hold it against me because I wasn't entirely forthcoming when I had the chance. I played a christard police officer into being my legal advocate. He was guarding City Hall and he was about to cite me for criminal trespass because anti-Whites claimed I was disrupting their meeting and they had asked me to leave. As reported on my piping thread, a starving diabetic came to my rescue with truthful testimony (not saying Hadding isn't fat), but there was another factor involved, and it's emotional/metaphysical rather than empirical/legal. I was wearing all black today. Black suit with black shirt. No hat. The cop confided in me after the fact that I reminded him of a parish priest and he was raised Catholic. I'm all about equal opportunity when gods come to my rescue. They deserve my faith at least as much as the legal system. |
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Things should be made as simple as they can be without distorting them into confusion, as you say. I agree with that. Always advocated such. Not only simple, but made lapidary, turned into slogans. Streamline all the various problems into a handful of slogans, easily memorized and repeated, easily made into graphic memes, and, to mix metaphors, with jew as the taproot to all of the fleurs de abnormal. Quote:
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It's your pattern of denying enemy activity that makes me wonder about your true motives. I accuse you of nothing, as I have no specific evidence, but I observer your curious pattern over time. Perhaps a simpler, more accurate explanation for your curious arguments is your preference for Big Brother government generally, no matter who's running it, white or jew. You're predisposed to believe the government follows the law, no matter how ridiculous that will seem to most here.
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We don't have any money. We don't have any power. We can't raise someone's social status or protect them from attack. We can't get celebrity endorsements or primetime TV shows. The only things that play to our strengths are telling the unvarnished truth, and using the unvarnished truth to entertain or agitate people. Quote:
Once the bible was proved wrong, the church said the 7 day creation was "metaphor". Then evolution proved the bible wrong. So Adam and Eve and Original Sin became metaphor. And Jesus died to save us from Original Sin. So was Jesus metaphorical too? Err, well you see, it's all about faith and your personal relationship with life and understanding! As Hitler said, the church used to burn people alive for saying that bible was "metaphor" back before they lost power. You'll see the White race return to traditional Christianity when you see the sun and the earth swap spots. Quote:
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My second response is you're very much like greggy in thinking your fine thoughts indoors where your religious view that the government keeps it legal 99% of the time makes sense.
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Too bad that you never read Rockwell, This Time the World. He states emphatically that most people in the establishment are not conspirators, which means that the possibility for crooked proceedings to go through is limited. Glenn Miller did experience a kangaroo court with a crooked Federal judge, but that's the exception rather than the rule. The ensuing Fort Smith Mass-Sedition Trial and Shelby Bookstore Trial resulted in acquittals across the board. It seems, when White Nationalists get into serious trouble, it is much less often because the government did something illegal than because they themselves had a false conception of the law. Glenn Miller signed a consent decree thinking that it was a "scrap of paper" that he could ignore. Hal Turner assumed that he could continue the kind of provocation that he had done previously for the FBI, without their sponsorship, and not be prosecuted. Chester Doles didn't bother to check the Federal law pertaining to his situation. Matt Hale apparently did not realize the danger in which he put himself by continuing to associate with somebody proposing criminal acts. These are all clear instances where having a false understanding of the law was what got the person into trouble. What you can criticize is that there are biased laws, and that where officials have discretion they may exercise it in a very biased way, so that enforcement and punishment are not evenhanded. Matt Hale for example has an absurdly harsh sentence. But in most such cases the government did not, as you claim, break any laws, if for no other reason than that to do so would incur risk for the official who took that initiative.
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Tits on a boar. Or a bull elephant, if you prefer.
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The Republican Party really needs to die. The only thing at this time that could conceivably get rid of Obongo's black ass is a military coup. Even that is problematical since he has conducted a Stalin-type purge of senior officers who would have the stones to do it. And the ones he has purged are too cowardly to speak out for fear of losing their goddamned pensions. This is but one reason my opinion of the US military is about the same as whale shit.
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In contrast, the reaction of the South to desegregation was hugely diminished. They were confused, scared, and demoralized. Apartheid South Africa crumpled too, and the people there were plenty racist. Quote:
The question is less "why are Whites so suicidal?" and more "why aren't Whites more homicidal?", given the current order of things. I don't think the essayists like that question, though. Quote:
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It was a criticism of Greg, but also of Rockwell and Andre to some extent, who were/are otherwise brilliant propagandists. The idea that you should make things simple, focused, and entertaining so that the masses can understand them. It's true, but it's only half the story. You should make things simple, focused, and entertaining for intellectuals as well. It's better. It's stronger. It has more of an impact than propaganda that's convoluted. Just because someone can digest propaganda which is long, incoherent, and boring doesn't mean they want to. Greg claims his stuff is only aimed at elite intellectuals. Andre says Greg's style is ignoring the masses. But it's not a class thing, it's just an effectiveness thing. Quote:
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After watching my wife come face to face with the enemy earlier today I can see that resistance, by what remains of White males, is futile. We're fucking doomed, man. Even Greg Johnson cannot hold out against this onslaught. http://winnememwintuvoice.tumblr.com...are-you-on-ada |
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Nothing personal. I've had a few glasses of wine. I apologize if I've offended you or anyone else here. I feel that I'm among friends here, generally. |
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No problem, my friend.
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Jimmy Marr, you are an inspiration. It sounds like you handled yourself very well. Congratulations to the Oregon Unit of Team White (you, your wife, Officer Mitchell, and the Carbo Pirate) for another job well done.
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