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Old May 17th, 2010 #41
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In any war there are innocent deaths and civilian casualties. I'm sure most of us can live with that......

NO SURRENDER TO THE IRA!
You still didn't answer my question.
And if what you say is true why is everybody going on about a handful of innocents killed accidently by IRA?
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Old May 17th, 2010 #42
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I doubt any of us could respond to every incident or personality but we didn't have any loyalist bombs on the "mainland" where I/we live but we did have serious problems with the IRA and their supporters. I think that's clear.

In a war shit happens. You take sides. So we would have totally and unconditionally supported loyalist actions and the NF, BM and BNP did exactly that. I have no issue with that at ALL!

I want Northern Ireland to remain British, part of the union. White Marxists are the enemy and, sadly, that makes people who live on their side of the fence often legitimate targets.

Do you support the IRA????
 
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If I was an Irish Republican I would be glad that theres a ceasefire, and weapons have been decommisioned, and that Sinn Fein are signed up to the peace process, and due to that, they are more popular then ever.

Ricky seems to want a return to the dark days, the people in Northern Ireland obviously dont.
I agree we must join up and drive the Muslims from our shores.He wont be happy till this happens.http://www.yale.edu/glc/archive/903.htm
 
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This is the easiest debate I've ever been involved with.
Its easy to debate when nobody even answers your questions.
I feel like I'm talking to myself.
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I doubt any of us could respond to every incident or personality but we didn't have any loyalist bombs on the "mainland" where I/we live but we did have serious problems with the IRA and their supporters. I think that's clear.

In a war shit happens. You take sides. So we would have totally and unconditionally supported loyalist actions and the NF, BM and BNP did exactly that. I have no issue with that at ALL!

I want Northern Ireland to remain British, part of the union. White Marxists are the enemy and, sadly, that makes people who live on their side of the fence often legitimate targets.

Do you support the IRA????
Yes. But you still haven't answered any of my specific questions.
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If as Richardson says "in war shit happens" why is everyone making such a big thing over a couple of boys killed accidently in a bomb the IRA gave a warning for?
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Three pages and still no one has answered a simple question.
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The silence is deafening on this thread.
Where are all the defenders of the brave volunteers of UVF/UDA/LVF?
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Rickey, tell us more about why you stated you are called a bog Arab.

Where do your Arabic features come from?
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The silence is deafening on this thread.
Where are all the defenders of the brave volunteers of UVF/UDA/LVF?
Whats your view on this? http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/su...#ixzz0oBH60Ygm
 
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Rickey, tell us more about why you stated you are called a bog Arab.

Where do your Arabic features come from?
That's a word I've seen thrown around recently.
Like most gaelic people I don't have arab features.
I have dark blond hair and blue eyes.
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Ricky....You've got some nerve coming on here claiming that planting bombs and running off were 'mistakes'.
 
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Pretty simple. He's an Iranian member of the british army who found a RIRA gun in a building on a property that was seldom used. That being the reason RIRa hid the weapon there.
He was afraid to rell psni cuz he thought RIRA would kill him.
In fact he was already under threat from republicans cuz he joined the brit army.

What's this have to do with loyalists? Or even the IRA?
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Ricky....You've got some nerve coming on here claiming that planting bombs and running off were 'mistakes'.
Really? How so?
I've explained it countless times.
If you have a problem with that why don't you condemn loyalists who deliberately murdered about a thousand fellow whites who were almost all civilians.
Rather than moan about a couple of people who didn't get away fast enuff after the IRA gave a warning?
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Still not a single reply to my question going into 4 pages. That's gotta be a record.
Its pretty bad when even faceless people on the internet won't come to your defence.
Still not a single poster has denie that loyalist deal drugs and are cowardly murderers of fellow white civilians.
I guess we all agree then?
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Really? How so?
I've explained it countless times.
If you have a problem with that why don't you condemn loyalists who deliberately murdered about a thousand fellow whites who were almost all civilians.
Rather than moan about a couple of people who didn't get away fast enuff after the IRA gave a warning?
Why don't you condemn those who are flooding Ireland with non-whites instead of trying to stir old tensions?
 
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Rickey, you have had specific answers, or as specific as anyone not directly involved in a Loyalist group can give. Why not ask the Loyalists? You're wrong, too, because your arguments are illogical. Nobody, I suggest, is claiming that it's a case of "Loyalists as Brit heroes" as such and the way in which you approach this serious issue suggests an almost childlike, schoolboyish take on things.

I am sure I speak for the majority of posters here, and if not I beg their forgiveness, when I restate for your information, that we would 100% support any and all loyalist activity against the IRA in pursuit of their military aims.

War is dirty. War is hell, war blurs the boundaries of strict black-white morality and what is said and seen to be "good" and "bad". In war you want to win. You'll have people killed who mightn't deserve it and some who don't get a bullet, like Martin McGuinness, who assuredly deserve it!

Ulster is British. Ulster was a war. Some think it still is. I donated to Loyalist causes and if some of the money was used for criminal acts then how do you define criminal because I would legitimately argue that in a war all tactics are acceptable in order to secure victory.

So why, then, are you bothered about a bit of drug dealing by loyalists? All paramilitary groups use illegal acts to fund their efforts whether it be The Order Bruder Schweigen, the PIRA, Baader-Meinhof Group, Action Directe, the Tamil Tigers or Umkonto Wesizwe/ANC. All major governments in the West support drug dealers and the British government often turns a blind eye to poppy seed growers in the far east......

So what is the moral equivalence you seek to employ?

Did I applaud and my heart leap for joy when Loyalist "terrorist" Michael Stone attacked those IRA scum at the cemetary in 1988. You bet your life I did and if some of the (IRA supporters) by the grave side got killed and were innocent then so be it!

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I hope this is getting clear enough for you.
 
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Why don't you condemn those who are flooding Ireland with non-whites instead of trying to stir old tensions?
There's nothing old about it. Its present day.
Loyalists still murder old people and children.
There's still 5000 soldiers in the north.
Britain still claims part of Ireland.

How long have non-whites occupied Ireland? With england its 800 years. No end in sight.

By the way you still haven't answered my question but neither has anybody else so yer in good company.
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There's nothing old about it. Its present day.
Loyalists still murder old people and children.
There's still 5000 soldiers in the north.
Britain still claims part of Ireland.

How long have non-whites occupied Ireland? With england its 800 years. No end in sight.

By the way you still haven't answered my question but neither has anybody else so yer in good company.
OK - let me re-phrase it. Why are you so upset about fellow whites in a white country and completely ignoring the flood of non-whites? Do you see Brits moaning about the influx of Irish into Britain? Hell, no, because for every house that's taken by an Irish family, that's one less for a non-white family.

I've been asking you this since you started the other thread but you haven't answered.

As for the answer to your question, isn't it bloody obvious what I think?
 
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Rickey, you have had specific answers, or as specific as anyone not directly involved in a Loyalist group can give. Why not ask the Loyalists? You're wrong, too, because your arguments are illogical. Nobody, I suggest, is claiming that it's a case of "Loyalists as Brit heroes" as such and the way in which you approach this serious issue suggests an almost childlike, schoolboyish take on things.

I am sure I speak for the majority of posters here, and if not I beg their forgiveness, when I restate for your information, that we would 100% support any and all loyalist activity against the IRA in pursuit of their military aims.

War is dirty. War is hell, war blurs the boundaries of strict black-white morality and what is said and seen to be "good" and "bad". In war you want to win. You'll have people killed who mightn't deserve it and some who don't get a bullet, like Martin McGuinness, who assuredly deserve it!

Ulster is British. Ulster was a war. Some think it still is. I donated to Loyalist causes and if some of the money was used for criminal acts then how do you define criminal because I would legitimately argue that in a war all tactics are acceptable in order to secure victory.

So why, then, are you bothered about a bit of drug dealing by loyalists? All paramilitary groups use illegal acts to fund their efforts whether it be The Order Bruder Schweigen, the PIRA, Baader-Meinhof Group, Action Directe, the Tamil Tigers or Umkonto Wesizwe/ANC. All major governments in the West support drug dealers and the British government often turns a blind eye to poppy seed growers in the far east......

So what is the moral equivalence you seek to employ?

Did I applaud and my heart leap for joy when Loyalist "terrorist" Michael Stone attacked those IRA scum at the cemetary in 1988. You bet your life I did and if some of the (IRA supporters) by the grave side got killed and were innocent then so be it!

YouTube- 1988 The Milltown Massacre

I hope this is getting clear enough for you.
You give one of the rare instances where loyalists targeted IRA vols. The vast majority were too cowardly to do so. Preferring any taig will do.
Probably the Mcguiness is alive today is cuz loyalists weretoo busy shooting 14 year lold boys in the back to hit the provos.
I am against drugs as all right minded people are and so is the IRa they drew the line on drugs when it came to fundraisi
Funny how people condmn the IRA for unintentionally killing a small number of civilians. But if loyalists deliberately murder hundreds of civilians that's war shit happens.
You think it might have anything to do with the nationalities of the victims?
I noticed when Adair and C company moved to Bolton few yrs ago all of a sudden english people started to complain about the drug dealing uda thugs.
English people never complained about them while they were in Ireland. Imagine that. Why could that be?
Btw, I had a much bigger laff than you when those two brits got stiffed a few days after Milltown.
Had a bit of a party on March 7 2009 also.
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