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Old October 26th, 2009 #1
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False Nazi Quotations

1. "Truth is the greatest enemy of the state" (Goebbels)

This is the most popular forged quotation. The full version:

"If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State."

Last I checked, this shows up on nearly 60,000 web pages and twenty published books (most of which are vanity press productions, evidence for the value of publishers who still believe in editors). It is attributed to Joseph Goebbels. No one ever gives a citation to the source. A fair number of web citations are to "Joseph M. Goebbels." That wasn't his middle initial. One book credits it to "Joseph Goebbel."

There are several hundred pages in German that cite the statement, but none give a source, and one site (perhaps the earliest) notes that is "retranslated from English."

Goebbels wouldn't have said that in public. He always maintained that propaganda had to be truthful. That doesn't mean he didn't lie, but it would be a pretty poor propagandist who publicly proclaimed that he was going to lie. I know of no evidence that he actually said it. I haven't read everything Goebbels wrote, but I have been through a lot of it.

Goebbels actually accused others of using the technique. In a 1941 article titled "Churchill's Lie Factory," he wrote:

"One should not as a rule reveal one's secrets, since one does not know if and when one may need them again. The essential English leadership secret does not depend on particular intelligence. Rather, it depends on a remarkably stupid thick-headedness. The English follow the principle that when one lies, one should lie big, and stick to it. They keep up their lies, even at the risk of looking ridiculous."

He accuses the English of the "big lie," and suggests that, were he to use such a technique, he would not publicly announce it.

The quotation usually seems to be used by those on the political left, who find it helpful in to associating those they don't like with the Nazis.

It is related to the next quotation, which is usually quoted accurately, but taken out of context.

2. Hitler and the "Big Lie"

The false Goebbels quotation above is actually a take-off on Hitler's familiar statement in Mein Kampf, which is often misunderstood. Hitler stated:

“In this they [the Jews] proceeded on the sound principle that the magnitude of a lie always contains a certain factor of credibility, since the great masses of the people in the very bottom of their hearts tend to be corrupted rather than consciously and purposely evil, and that, therefore, in view of the primitive simplicity of their minds, they more easily fall victim to a big lie than to a little one, since they themselves lie in little things, but would be ashamed of lies that were too big. Such a falsehood will never enter their heads, and they will not be able to believe in the possibility of such monstrous effrontery and infamous misrepresentation in others.…” (p. 231 of the Manheim translation)

Hitler is accusing the Jews the Vienna press of this strategy. It is often taken as evidence that Hitler advocated the "Big Lie." He is, in fact, accusing his enemies of lying.

Now, Hitler was entirely willing to lie — but in public he insisted that he and his propaganda were truthful.

3. Hitler and Gun Control

The following quotation shows up about a thousand times on the Internet last I checked:

"This year will go down in history! For the first time, a civilized nation has full gun registration! Our streets will be safer, our police more efficient, and the world will follow our lead into the future!"

However, Hitler never said it, even though fabricated sources are sometimes provided. Guns weren't that much of a problem in the Nazi era (at least within the country...). In fact, the Nazis liked guns, and started training kids early on in their use.

4. Hitler and "Law and Order"

The following statement is cited less often today than it was during the 1960s, as news of its falsity has gotten around, but it still shows up on a number of web sites:

"The streets of our cities are in turmoil. The universities are filled with students rebelling and rioting. Communists are seeking to destroy our country. Russia is threatening us with her might and the Republic is in danger. Yes, danger from within and without. We need law and order! Yes, without law and order our national cannot survive. . . . Elect us and we shall restore law and order. We shall, by law and order, be respected among the nations of the world. Without law and order our Republic shall fail."

There are lot of things wrong with this statement, beginning with the fact that Hitler wanted the Republic to fail, and was open about it. It had its origins in a communist newspaper, and popped up in the movie Billy Jack (1971). For full details, see that most useful book by Paul F. Boller, Jr. and John George, They Never Said It: A Book of Fake Quotes, Misquotes, & Misleading Attributions (New York: Oxford, 1989), pp. 45-46.

5. Hermann Goering on Culture and Revolvers

Goering is often quoted as having said:

"Whenever I hear the word culture, I reach for my revolver."

This one is also dealt with in They Never Said It. (p. 36). It actually comes from a play by the prominent Nazi writer Hanns Johst titled Schlageter, which deals with the life of a Nazi "martyr." It's also an unlikely thing for Goering to have said, since he prided himself on his artistic knowledge.

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Old October 26th, 2009 #2
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2. Hitler and the "Big Lie"
Alex, I went through every speech that Goebbels did that I could find here:
http://www.calvin.edu/academic/cas/gpa/goebmain.htm

and the only reference to the "big lie" that I could find related to what Goebbels said that English leaders were doing to their people-lying to them.

This is the passage:

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That is of course rather painful for those involved. One should not, as a rule, reveal one's secrets, since one does not know if and when one may need them again. The essential English leadership secret does not depend on particular intelligence. Rather, it depends on a remarkably stupid thick-headedness. The English follow the principle that when one lies, one should lie big, and stick to it. They keep up their lies, even at the risk of looking ridiculous.
http://www.calvin.edu/academic/cas/gpa/goeb29.htm


I went through it some years ago and I make a point of straightening out the record when I hear people use the words "big lie" and the Nazis in the same sentence.
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Old June 19th, 2022 #3
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Fake Nazi Quotations

By Mark Weber


Quotations falsely attributed to Hitler and other Third Reich leaders have been widely circulated for years. Such quotes are often used by polemicists — of both the left and the right — to discredit their ideological adversaries by showing that Nazis held similar views. This tactic works because people have been educated to believe that anything Hitler and other Nazi leaders thought or said was malevolent, wrong-headed or evil, and that no reasonable or ethical person could hold similar views.

Here’s a look at a few of the many remarks falsely attributed to Hitler and other top Nazis.

Goebbels: ‘Truth is the Enemy of the State’

Hitler’s propaganda chief, Joseph Goebbels, supposedly said:

“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”

Rush Limbaugh, the popular American radio commentator, is just one of the many influential Americans who has cited this quotation. During a May 2007 radio broadcast he claimed that these remarks are “from Hitler’s war room, the Nazi spinmeister-in-chief, Joseph Goebbels,” who was “speaking for his cronies in the Nazi party.” Limbaugh went on to claim that American “Democrat Party” leaders were using “a version” of Goebbels’ technique to try to “repress dissent.” And in January 2011 US Congressman Steve Cohen, a Democratic party politician of Tennessee, accused Republicans of propagating “a big lie, just like Goebbels” about a proposed national health care plan.

No one has been able to cite a source for this infamous “big lie” quote. That’s because Goebbels never wrote or uttered those words. His views were actually quite different than what this quotation suggests.

He consistently held that, to be effective, propaganda must be accurate and truthful. In an address given in September 1934 in Nuremberg, Goebbels said: “Good propaganda does not need to lie; indeed it may not lie. It has no reason to fear the truth. It is a mistake to believe that people cannot take the truth. They can. It is only a matter of presenting the truth to people in a way that they will be able to understand. A propaganda that lies proves that it has a bad cause. It cannot be successful in the long run.”

In an article written in 1941, he cited examples of false British wartime claims, and went on to charge that British propagandists had adopted the “big lie” technique that Hitler had identified and condemned in his book Mein Kampf. Goebbels wrote: “The English follow the principle that when one lies, one should lie big, and stick to it. They keep up their lies, even at the risk of looking ridiculous.”

Hitler and Gun Control

In a speech, sometimes said to have been delivered in 1935, Hitler is supposed to have exclaimed: “This year will go down in history! For the first time, a civilized nation has full gun registration! Our streets will be safer, our police more efficient, and the world will follow our lead into the future!”

This quote has been popular with Americans who defend the constitutional right to “keep and bear arms.” It’s cited to discredit those who support restrictions on firearms ownership and use. It’s also cited to support the often-made charge that Hitler and his government curtailed gun ownership in Germany, and confiscated weapons held by private citizens.

The truth is rather different. When Hitler and his National Socialist Party took power in early 1933, they inherited a somewhat restrictive firearms law that the liberal-democratic “Weimar” government had enacted five years earlier. In 1938 Hitler’s government revised the earlier law by loosening those restrictions, thereby enhancing the rights of Germans to own weapons. The most thorough confiscation of firearms ever imposed on Germans was carried out at the end of the Second World War by the occupation forces of the United States and other victorious Allied powers.

Hitler on ‘Law and Order’

Hitler is supposed to have said during a speech in 1932, shortly before he became Chancellor:

“The streets of our cities are in turmoil. The universities are filled with students rebelling and rioting. Communists are seeking to destroy our country. Russia is threatening us with her might and the Republic is in danger. Yes, danger from within and without. We need law and order! Yes, without law and order our nation cannot survive … Elect us and we shall restore law and order. We shall, by law and order, be respected among the nations of the world. Without law and order our Republic shall fail.”

This quotation, which is meant to embarrass and discredit those who support “law and order,” was especially popular with younger Americans during the late 1960s and early 1970s. It appeared on posters and in the 1971 movie “Billy Jack.”

In his many election campaign speeches in 1932 Hitler stressed the themes of justice, freedom, jobs and national unity — not “law and order.” German universities in 1932 were not “filled with students rebelling and rioting.” In fact, German students were among the most fervent supporters of Hitler and his National Socialist movement.

Goering on Culture

Hermann Goering, a high-ranking Third Reich official, is often quoted as having said: “Whenever I hear the word culture, I reach for my revolver.” Reichsmarschall Goering (Göring), who was commander of Germany’s air force, would never have said anything like this. Along with other high-level Third Reich leaders, he esteemed the arts, and prided himself on his appreciation of culture.

This quote is a distortion of a line by a character in the play Schlageter by German writer Hanns Johst. The original line (translated) is “When I hear [the word] culture … I release the safety on my Browning!” A version of this quote is presented in a staged scene in “Why We Fight,” a US government wartime propaganda film, to suggest that the typical “Nazi” was an uncultured thug.

Hitler and Conscience

“I am liberating man from the degrading chimera known as conscience,” Hitler is supposed to have said. This widely repeated quote appears, for example, in The Great Quotations, a supposedly authoritative collection compiled by Jewish American journalist and author George Seldes. It’s a version of a remark attributed to Hitler by Hermann Rauschning in his book, The Voice of Destruction (Conversations with Hitler), which is a source of many fraudulent quotations supposedly based on private talks with Hitler that, in fact, never took place.

The “original” text of this quote, as presented by Rauschning, is: “Providence has ordained that I should be the greatest liberator of humanity. I am freeing men from the restraints of an intelligence that has taken charge; from the dirty and degrading self-mortifications of a chimera called conscience and morality, and from the demands of a freedom and personal independence which only a very few can bear.”

In fact, Hitler repeatedly emphasized the importance of acting conscientiously. For example, in at least three different public statements or speeches in 1941 alone, he spoke about acting in accord with his conscience. Rudolf Hess, a close friend and trusted colleague, once said that his devotion to Hitler was based in large measure on his regard for Hitler’s resolute conscience. In a 1934 speech Hess said: “The conscience of a moral personality is a far greater protection against the misuse of an office than is the supervision of parliament or the separation of powers. I know no one who has a stronger conscience, or is more true to his people, than Adolf Hitler … The Führer’s highest court is his conscience and his responsibility to his people and to history.”

Hitler: ‘Destroy By All Means’

The US government propaganda film, “Why We Fight,” quotes Hitler as having said: “My motto is ‘Destroy by all and any means. National Socialism will reshape the world’.” This is a version of a remark attributed to Hitler by Hermann Rauschning in his influential book. The “original” text, as presented by Rauschning, is: “I want war. To me all means will be right … My motto is not ‘Don’t, whatever you do, annoy the enemy!’ My motto is ‘Destroy him by all and any means.’ I am the one who will wage the war!” Another version of this invented remark appears in the book Hitler and Nazism (1961), by historian Louis Leo Snyder, who was a professor at City College of New York.

Hitler on Terrorism

Hitler has often been quoted as saying: “Terrorism is the best political weapon for nothing drives people harder than a fear of sudden death.” This quote is based on two invented remarks in Hermann Rauschning’s mendacious book, The Voice of Destruction.

Hitler: ‘We Are Barbarians’

Hitler has often been quoted as saying: “They refer to me as an uneducated barbarian. Yes, we are barbarians. We want to be barbarians, it is an honored title to us. We shall rejuvenate the world. This world is near its end.”

This is another fraudulent Hitler quote from the fanciful work of Hermann Rauschning.

Hitler and ‘Brutal Youth’

“A violently active, dominating, intrepid, brutal youth — that is what I am after … I want to see in its eyes the gleam of pride and independence, of prey. I will have no intellectual training. Knowledge is the ruin of my young men.” This widely cited remark is included, for example, in George Seldes’ The Great Quotations. The source cited by Seldes is an item in The Nation by the popular American journalist and author John Gunther (1901-1970).

In fact, this is a version of a remark attributed to Hitler by Hermann Rauschning, whose imaginative work is a source of many phony “quotes.” Another fraudulent Hitler remark in this same spirit and from this same source, likewise cited by the supposedly authoritative Seldes, is this: “Universal education is the most corroding and disintegrating poison that liberalism ever invented for its own destruction.”

These remarks misrepresent Hitler’s real views. In fact, National Socialist Germany was a world leader in science, learning, technology and medicine. Hitler was admired by some of the leading intellectuals of the age, including Knut Hamsun, Ezra Pound, Louis-Ferdinand Celine and Martin Heidegger.

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