Ron Paul Lies About Lack Of Involvement With White Nationalists

[Vonbluvens]

Originally Posted by RonPaulFan

I can't believe that a white nationalists would do this to Ron Paul. This is worst than Stormfront keeping Ron Paul banners up for publicity. David Duke and Bill White should be ashamed of themselves.

How dare Bill White tell the truth and ruin things for RP (like the media would never have found out about it anyway).

If it is a lie I am guessing RP will be suing him, but something tells me this isn't a lie.

Actually, Chris Drake has the best take on this whole situation...go back and read it.

[Vonbluvens]

Originally Posted by Alex Linder

I'm moving this back to general. If you're lying about this, that's an anti-White thing to do. I'm guessing you're not, but it's only a guess.

Those angry about what Bill says, let's keep in mind that officially Grandpa Paul is anti-racist.

Are we so feeble that we can only defend ourselves indirectly, through neutral law, rather than manfully through direct advocacy and action?

Let the forces come out in the open:

The jews and their LGF gerbilators, vs the freedom-loving Whites.

EXACTLY! That is very close to what Bill said to me a few minutes ago.

[Derrick Beukeboom]

Originally Posted by Alex Linder

I'm moving this back to general. If you're lying about this, that's an anti-White thing to do. I'm guessing you're not, but it's only a guess.

Those angry about what Bill says, let's keep in mind that officially Grandpa Paul is anti-racist.

Are we so feeble that we can only defend ourselves indirectly, through neutral law, rather than manfully through direct advocacy and action?

Let the forces come out in the open:

The jews and their LGF gerbilators, vs the freedom-loving Whites.

I was betting you would side this way Alex. Perhaps correctly, for now.

This is still basically just a internet forum rumor. There is nothing else to go buy. It's not a question if we are so feeble, it's more of a question of being strategic and engaging in battles you can win.
Fundamentally, this is all really a metaphor for the debate within the Right Wing realm of what tactics we employ to go directly at the source of the problem.
The whole debate in the civil area about the European American Union or whatever is the same thing.
Do you want to finesse the thing and try to outflank the jews or do you want to go directly at them and fight the way they fight: no mercy, no shame, no WASP embarrassment??

THIS is the issue in all this. Yet, the public should take RP at his word. He has been nothing but an honest man and straight forward. We need to as well.
I'm cynical about all this and the way Billy White brought this up reeks of sabotage at worst, immature attention seeking at best.
The jury is still out and we can expect Linder to want to always fight the jews the only way that has worked before - out in the open, No Jews/Just Right.

Many RP people are good folks, a bit naive and I get the drift from some elements of the VNN where they do not believe that anything within the system will work.
For big, fundamental changes, I'm inclined to agree. But, RP and his many supporters are great for incremental change..the steps are in place.

Don't fix it if it ain't broke.
We know you're not fond of the Amren approach Alex, but this is not a website magazine thing or little hotel conferences.
This is big time. Ron Paul is big time.

I'm taking a guess and saying this is bullshit. Trent Lott goes to CofCC and I think has been to some Amren event at one time.
Buchanan is another soft WN code talker. Maybe we should not give this story all that much attention even.
It's not that big of a deal.

Not a story...
and this is a plus for everyone.

[YANKEE_JIM]

Originally Posted by Derrick Beukeboom

I was betting you would side this way Alex. Perhaps correctly, for now.

This is still basically just a internet forum rumor.

104 people viewing "General" as I type this?

MANY are going to visit this forum and learn all about the kike.


-Jim

[Vonbluvens]

Originally Posted by Derrick Beukeboom

I was betting you would side this way Alex. Perhaps correctly, for now.

This is still basically just a internet forum rumor. There is nothing else to go buy. It's not a question if we are so feeble, it's more of a question of being strategic and engaging in battles you can win.
Fundamentally, this is all really a metaphor for the debate within the Right Wing realm of what tactics we employ to go directly at the source of the problem.
The whole debate in the civil area about the European American Union or whatever is the same thing.
Do you want to finesse the thing and try to outflank the jews or do you want to go directly at them and fight the way they fight: no mercy, no shame, no WASP embarrassment??

THIS is the issue in all this. Yet, the public should take RP at his word. He has been nothing but an honest man and straight forward. We need to as well.
I'm cynical about all this and the way Billy White brought this up reeks of sabotage at worst, immature attention seeking at best.
The jury is still out and we can expect Linder to want to always fight the jews the only way that has worked before - out in the open, No Jews/Just Right.

Many RP people are good folks, a bit naive and I get the drift from some elements of the VNN where they do not believe that anything within the system will work.
For big, fundamental changes, I'm inclined to agree. But, RP and his many supporters are great for incremental change..the steps are in place.

Don't fix it if it ain't broke.
We know you're not fond of the Amren approach Alex, but this is not a website magazine thing or little hotel conferences.
This is big time. Ron Paul is big time.

I'm taking a guess and saying this is bullshit. Trent Lott goes to CofCC and I think has been to some Amren event at one time.
Buchanan is another soft WN code talker. Maybe we should not give this story all that much attention even.
It's not that big of a deal.

Not a story...
and this is a plus for everyone.

Don't forget that in 92' Buchanan was "big time" too.

[melcur]

Sounds like bullshit to me. I will say that RP isn't afraid of talking with those holding an altrernative view, but it seems a little far fetched that he'd be knowingly meeting with and shaking the hands of Bill White and any SFers.

I'm calling total bullshit for now.

[Vonbluvens]

If RP doesn't sue Bill I am inclined to believe it true.

[McKinley]

Originally Posted by YANKEE_JIM

104 people viewing "General" as I type this?

MANY are going to visit this forum and learn all about the kike.


-Jim

How many of those viewers do you think are anti's and Kikes just looking for dirt on Paul? I would say most are.

[Vonbluvens]

Originally Posted by McKinley

How many of those viewers do you think are anti's and Kikes just looking for dirt on Paul? I would say most are.

You worry too much. Instead of us being afraid they come to our forum we should view it as an opportunity to advocate for our cause.

[YANKEE_JIM]

Originally Posted by McKinley

How many of those viewers do you think are anti's and Kikes just looking for dirt on Paul? I would say most are.

It don't matter McKinley.


Here, they will find good guys...and TRUTH!


-Jim

[Signe]

Wow...

http://www.google.com/search?hl=la&q...re+Googles+ope

[White Will]

Originally Posted by Alex Linder

I'm moving this back to general. If you're lying about this, that's an anti-White thing to do. I'm guessing you're not, but it's only a guess..

That's right, you have to guess. And you are guessing because nothing the dressup Nazi psychopath says can be relied upon as being truthful. He has a thoroughly documented history of telling whoppers that you are well aware of.

If the rumor is true, he's a saboteur, if not, it's just another grandstanding lie as stunt in a long pattern of grandstanding lie stunts. Lose/lose for you and VNN for allowing him to foul whatever it is you are trying to build.

Falsus in uno, falsus in omnibus It's a White thing.

I'll stick with "Grandpa Paul the antiracist" over Commander ASSWIPE the anti-racist. You are promoting a lying fraud, Alex, in a movement that fights the lies of the Jew with truth.

[YANKEE_JIM]

Originally Posted by Signe

Wow...

http://www.google.com/search?hl=la&q...re+Googles+ope

HAHAHA!!! Strike while the iron's HOT!


See HERE


-Jim

[Mike Riggins]

Originally Posted by YANKEE_JIM

HAHAHA!!! Strike while the iron's HOT!


See HERE


-Jim

This is going to cause VNN so much publicity. I hope the Ron Paul campaign can recover if it is true. Either way we win. Ron Paul will either be President or thousands of new people will come to VNN. I guess I overreacted against Bill White at first. Like him or hate him, he is generating much publicity for us.

[Joe McGee]

Originally Posted by VONBLUVENS

If it is a lie I am guessing RP will be suing him, but something tells me this isn't a lie.

Maybe I have this wrong, but isn't it "Commander" who is always dragging people into court?

[H.N.]

Originally Posted by RonPaulFan

This is going to cause VNN so much publicity. I hope the Ron Paul campaign can recover if it is true. Either way we win. Ron Paul will either be President or thousands of new people will come to VNN. I guess I overreacted against Bill White at first. Like him or hate him, he is generating much publicity for us.

Yes, because VNN has so much power as it is...

Yea, VNN is a good WN forum, but I would rather have a good president than a good message board.

[Vonbluvens]

Originally Posted by White Will

That's right, you have to guess. And you are guessing because nothing the dressup Nazi psychopath says can be relied upon as being truthful. He has a thoroughly documented history of telling whoppers that you are well aware of.

Bill has demonstrated to be RIGHT about many things including (as YANKEE JIM pointed out) Kevin Alfred Strom.

Originally Posted by White Will

If the rumor is true, he's a saboteur, if not, it's just another grandstanding lie as stunt in a long pattern of grandstanding lie stunts. Lose/lose for you and VNN for allowing him to foul whatever it is you are trying to build.

This statement shows you are a master at polemics but most realize you are presenting a false dilemma here. How is Bill a saboteur? Please share.

Originally Posted by White Will

I'll stick with "Grandpa Paul the antiracist" over Commander ASSWIPE the anti-racist.

It is surprising to see name calling coming from a man of your intelligence.

Originally Posted by White Will

You are promoting a lying fraud, Alex, in a movement that fights the lies of the Jew with truth.

Hell, I thought Alex was being fair here. How is he promoting Bill White?

This isn’t a choice between Bill White and Ron Paul—that’s fallacious argument.

[Hell Raising Woman]

I think there are enough problems with the jew media attacking Ron for not giving back funds given by what jewish supremists calls "White Supremacists" without exagerrations about Ron meeting people at a dinner party belonging to WN groups.

From observing Ron, he meets and greets anyone who has the same ideals as him, regardless of what their other beliefs are. Doesn't mean he endorses that ideology, but understands why we think we do. I think it just so happen that a few WN's attended the dinner to get a chance to meet with Ron, nothing more.

In addition, from watching the donor names appear on Ron Paul's web site, there are plenty of jews supporting him including the name, "Schumaker or Schumacher." Be aware. I wouldn't doubt the jews will try to dominate his support.

[White Will]

Originally Posted by RonPaulFan

This is going to cause VNN so much publicity. I hope the Ron Paul campaign can recover if it is true. Either way we win. Ron Paul will either be President or thousands of new people will come to VNN. I guess I overreacted against Bill White at first. Like him or hate him, he is generating much publicity for us.

Bye, phony Ron Paul fan.

<kerplop!>

[ANSWP Commander]

Hello all:

I had to have emergency dental surgery today. Apparently, a cavity formed in between two of my teeth (even though I floss regularly), spread extremely rapidly (one of those teeth has has problems since I was a kid) and I am going to have to have those two teeth largey eviscerated and rebuilt. As a result of the "exploratory surgery" that was done today, I am alternarely in a large degree of pain or heavily doped up on sedatives, and am expecting two more surgeries in the near future. Obnoxiously, my insurance does not cover the procedures involved (they are considered "cosmetic") and only covers the teeth being pulled (which is not acceptable), and thus I am $5000 out of pocket for Christmas. Merry F-ing Christmas.

Anyways, because of this, I have not been the most communicative or the most available to the press, other inquirers, people wanting to debate me, shout insults, etc.

Some points, though, before I retire to bed:

* Zero-eth, as I'm adding this in (engineer style): The router for Overthrow.com just arrived. Merry Christmas. The site will be back up this weekend if I can get the electricians out tomorrow; if not, just after Christmas.

* First, Alex Linder lifted the ban on me, and I thank him for that.

* Second, I heard Ron Paul's extended comments about white nationalism and Don Black made on Fox News, and I thought they were disingenuous, as Don Black could probably make one phone call and have Ron Paul's ear.

* Third, The restaurant in Arlington is Sala Thai, not Tara Thai, as someone on our Yahoo group pointed out today:

"Dear Mr. White,

I am now the Program Director for The National Capital Area CofCC( I met you there once or twice in the old days when you lived in Wheaton(?)). It's the Sala Thai restaurant and we are going to meet the 3rd Tuesdays of the month henceforth. We'll likely have Tom Sunic as speaker in Feb. We already have Jared Taylor lined up for March. No meeting in Jan. Please let me know if you want to receive email notices of the meetings. Also, you can have your members contact me if they'd like to be CCC members, because we basically cover all of MD, all of VA, DC, and even DE and parts of PA. Thanks."

* Fourth, I have been approached for interviews from four different national publications and a slew of "independent" journalists, bloggers, college kids and the like. All I have to say is the truth: That Ron Paul is not necessarily terribly "racist" -- I doubt he hates blacks, etc -- but he is certainly aware of the Jew and aware of racial issues.

* Fifth, as an aside, someone broke into property I own and set a small fire. They did not do much damage, but the investigation kept me standing around in the cold for about three hours this afternoon, thus I have been away from email.

* Sixth, I have not looked up the guy who represents Paul at these meetings, but will do so at the first opportunity.

Bill White, Commander
American National Socialist Workers Party