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This is a new AP article, or the same one? This paper picked it up in google's news thread six hours ago.
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http://www.vnnforum.com/main/2004b/53004letters.htm Linder craps out! Yep...Himself lets Duke and the rest of the NA bought and paid for dupes bully him into not attending Dukes conference! A tactical error ITZ! Oy Vey....Duke smoothes Linder over with a mere phone call, starstruck ITZ! The obstructions, hindrances and difficulties Itz! Please Alex make calm, tranquilize yourself and be less harsh! .... relieve the anxiety and tension! Refine yourself Itz!......ohh the crudness! Ohh the unpleasantness , disagreeable,coarseness and rough to the touch you are! Can't we just all get along! Make nice with the NOI! They will help us! Many jew are against Zionism...they be our friends, Itz! Duke be talkin to Alex and is everything is OK! I'm convinced Itz! Nothing to see here folks...just move along! Alex be takin care ob uz! BS! Another jew sellout! Steve B Ed. Note: Not even, dude! See next letter. I be what I be, and I keep on bein'. Like I told cultist Kelso, Weenie's new best friend, he's full of s*** and I wanted to hear the nix from Duke himself. If I had not talked to Duke and felt his reservations, I would have gone down there. I will not drive 1,000 miles to be turned away, especially if the host is on our side and does not welcome me. I acted as an honorable Aryan. If Duke's afraid of my presence, or takes orders from cult-affiliated underlings when it comes to admitting people to a "unity" conference, that reflects on his judgment. I'm going to assume that Duke is misled, and give him some time to figure out what's going on. It is clearer than ever that Aryans in American need some kind of non-cult representation. The NA grows increasingly saffronic. [Edited by Georgie: Watch your language in this section] |
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June 1st, 2004 | #123 | |
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Not that I care, but it's kind of strange when the sensation of "this looks familiar" dawns on you, and then you say, "oh, because I wrote it". Is it safe to assume ALL things from VNNF are eligible to be posted to the VNN letters section Alex? If its not explicitly stated, it should be. Edit: I read even lower, the letter concerning CAL's Scientology past was freaking hilarious! Who knew he kissed ass and fellated his way to the elite of Scientology, then split? "There came a day when I woke up and said, "Hey, I'm not a scientologist. This is a joke. What the hell am I doing here?" Normally, if you try to leave they make it very uncomfortable. They go after you and use all sorts of mental arm twisting to intimidate you back into the fold. So I engineered what they call a "blow" to get myself physically out of the organization. With their blessings I got a leave of absence for some kind of super project that I concocted. It was a total phony. When my leave was over, I simply remained out." Anyone see a precedent?
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By the way...my letter to Alex was not meant to insult although it probably appears to most to be so. Every once is a while I like to give Alex a hard time for the simple reason it brings out the best in him! |
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David Duke told Alex plainly that he was not to attend, on the grounds that "his message would conflict," reflecting the image of Linder supplied to Duke, Alex thinks, by Strom, Kelso, etc. So why cause a conflict? Why show up where you're not wanted by the guest of honor, who's being welcomed home? Why disrupt an otherwise great and important event? You who are saying Alex should have showed up there are wrong. It makes no sense, whether Duke was simply acting on a wrong impression fed him or whether he genuinely does not like Alex. Especially if it's the former, which Alex is assuming and giving Duke the benefit of the doubt. But even if it was Duke's own choice, it would make no sense not to respect that and show up there unwanted. Those suggesting this show a marked negro mentality, or, in Glex's case, a likely desire to hurt Linder, which showing up there unwanted undoubtedly would have. Last edited by Demonica; June 2nd, 2004 at 09:20 AM. Reason: [No racial slurs in the civil forum] |
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Seventh Sunday of Pentecost Our Yokes Rest Easy when Jesus Pulls the Load Beside Us Matthew 11: 16 - 19, 25 - 30 Luke 10: 21, 22 http://www.sundayschoollessons.com/pent6mles.htm See also: Matthew 5 39 But I tell you, Do not resist an evil person. If someone strikes you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also. http://bible.gospelcom.net/bible?lan...sage=Matt+5:39 First a civil forum, now this. Unf*****believable! [edited by Franco] |
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June 2nd, 2004 | #127 | |
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If I had been on the speaker's roster and THEN been canceled, I would have attended regardless of what Duke or Kelso or anybody felt. Duke doesn't define "unity," but his actions suggests he thinks he can. What he lost by my not attending was a good report on what actually happened. The fact is that too many in our 'movement' are girlishly sensitive to criticism, and this attitude predominates among the soi-disant high-roaders. A. Linder [i accidentally edited rather than replied, making it appear glex wrote what i did.] Last edited by Alex Linder; June 2nd, 2004 at 03:59 PM. |
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June 2nd, 2004 | #128 | |
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Revisionist (Mueller) conference: Alex had long been invited. Maybe not as a guest of honor, but at least as someone who would be helping to run and/or promote the conference. Alex had been promoting the conference for months on VNN. He already had his plane ticket in hand when he was suddenly disinvited, and the organizer of the conference admitted that it wasn't his wish to do so but rather the wishes of shadowy sponsors. Duke conference: Alex had never been invited, nor had he been specifically disinvited. He was not actively involved on the promotion of the conference, nor was he ever listed on the conference website as a speaker or attendee. He did not have any specific plans to go until the last minute. He would have driven to New Orleans with Chain. Chain's involvement probably threw a bunch of other political stuff into the mix.... if Alex had just gone by himself and without announcing anything on-line, he probably would not have had any trouble getting into the conference as an attendee (just my opinion). But as things turned out, David Duke himself (the organizer of the conference) believed that Alex would make trouble there, and so he asked Alex not to show up. So, to recap the differences: 1) Specific Invitation to Alex: Mueller Conference: yes Duke Conference: no 2) Long-term Plans to Attend (plane tickets, etc.): Mueller Conference: yes Duke Conference: no 3) Alex/VNN Promoted Event: Mueller Conference: yes Duke Conference: no 4) Conference Organizer personally doesn't want Alex: Mueller Conference: no Duke Conferenfe: yes Capiche? |
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June 2nd, 2004 | #129 | |
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Duke did not want me attending his "Unity" conference, I suspect mostly because of what he has heard about us from Scientologist/cultist-of-many-colors Jamie Kelso and Don Black, who apparently has whined to him about criticism here. That is Duke's prerogative. I was never on the official speaker's list, and since Duke didn't want me to go, I didn't want to go. It reflects poorly on David Duke and his judgment and the people he surrounds himself with, in my view, and I think in the view of most. It was a "small" rather than a "big" decision. Kelso is someone Duke and Strom are extremely foolish to be involved with. Time has a way of sorting these things out. I will be writing a reaction to the ideas in the speeches at the Duke show once I've finished listening to them. Last edited by Alex Linder; June 2nd, 2004 at 03:44 PM. |
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Hello Alex,
as a relative newcomer to the US nationalist scene, I am intrigued to hear as to why you were 'banned' from the New Orleans conference. I have been involved in British nationalism since I came out of the British Army in 1976. I myself , have 'suffered the strings and arrows of great misfortune' by Nick Griffin since early 2001. I am a supporter and friend of JohnTyndall. What were the reasons for your exclusion ? What do you think of the 'New Orleans Protocol' ? |
June 5th, 2004 | #132 | |
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A final observation is that "our" government neither follows the law nor refrains from violence, so why should I sign something promising to bring a knife to a gunfight? The best policy with regard to violence is to say nothing. Last edited by Alex Linder; June 5th, 2004 at 02:44 AM. |
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June 30th, 2005 | #133 |
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Just for fun I was looking through a couple of forums to see which threads have been viewed the most, and this thread is pretty high on the list. There's lots of good information here, from the first posts and onward, so I hope newcomers to the forum will take the chance to read it.
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I hear Duke fired Kelso recently, primarily because his girlfriend had had enough of sharing their home with him. Isn't there always a female at the root of these shakeups? I also that David hired him back after agreeing to put him in another house, then took off for Europe again. I also hear that Duke had a major blowup with Willis Carto and with Eustice Mullins at his conference last month. These are rumors as far as I know, but I expect that there have been lots of adjustments in the relationships of those who attended the so-called Unity conference in New Orleans. |
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