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Old December 25th, 2012 #41
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I think that is going too far. I don't believe it was expressly created for that reason. I believe they soon saw they could turn it that way. christ-insanity has always been useful to jews, and even more so in an age of rapid communications and global transportation. The sad thing is the dolts who think they are White and Christians are too dumb to see that the cult's doctrines are a standing invitation to jews to come in and take over, or to browbeat the cultists into supporting the leftist agenda lest they be denounced as immoral.

Apropos the above, this link to Century Magazine's historic 1928 article:

http://www.unz.org/Pub/Century-1928feb-00476

Commissary to the Gentiles by Marcus Eli Ravage is but one of several writings assigning to Saul of Taursus the successful role of transforming a jewish cult into the destructive insanity that ended the Roman Empire and has crippled the Goyim of the West since that time...
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One of the ways they tried to keep us (the younger generation) in line was that if we weren't Jebus cultists, we'd "goeth before a fall" like "pride goeth before a fall." The afterlife scare doesn't work? Tell them stories of someone who thought he could live without Jebus, but without Jebus' guidance, he goes into a life of immorality and hits rock bottom and returns to Jebus cult.
This is standard fare throughout Christianity.

Good posting , ppl need to hear these things .

Did the Afreekican pastor call after the money stopped ?
 
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........for those who put race first - everything. For those who don't - nothing.
'We' deserve no less.
 
Old December 26th, 2012 #44
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This is standard fare throughout Christianity.

Good posting , ppl need to hear these things .

Did the Afreekican pastor call after the money stopped ?
Yep, the calls did indeed stop.

Christianity works hand in glove with public schooling to castrate White men:

http://elusivewapiti.blogspot.com/20...rn-school.html
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Old December 28th, 2012 #45
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Simpler, more memorable way to put is as I've said.

Most whites are niggers.

Most men are women.


That's how it is. No religion will change it. There's no cure for stupid, as comedian Ron White says. Eugenics might offer a long-term solution.

What we want is an end to divided minds. Either you put jebus #1, or you put race first. You can't serve both. You shouldn't pretend you can. If you've never thought about it before, now at VNN you are forced to make a decision, if you want to post here. Even the bible says No man can serve two masters. Either he will love the one and hate the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other.
Can you not serve two masters though? In a sense you can, if their wills are aligned. For some, christianity and white nationalism are not at odds with each other, which is probably more so true with the christian identity types. It is possible for someone to be a "christian" and also a white nationalist? I would say, yes. However, a true christian? with a full understanding of the christian religion and the christian way of life?: that I am not so sure of.

I've met christian white nationalists before, and I know that some of these guys are the real deal, but I have also observed that many of the lowest quality white nationalists are christians, who annoy me in the same way the "cultural preservationist" types do. Mostly because I know that culture has changed quite a bit over time and much of modernity is, frankly, horse shit.

As far as any white nationalist group goes that consistently yields the most impressive and entertaining individuals? for me? it would have to be the national socialists, so much so that it is actually tempting to become one. But that's a different subject...

Christianity certainly seems to be a major opponent of yours, and if that is something you feel you have to battle then well? it is your forum. Christianity is clearly a major force in the USA, but anti-christian sentiment in the UK is much like anti-capitalism in the UK, it's flogging a dead horse. I mention this because I feel the UK can almost provide Americans with a glimpse into a possible future of America. A disarmed, racially diverse, overly feminised heap of garbage, heavily populated by docile, adult babies who are so used to their corrupt, rogue government that they don't even really care any more. The decline of Christianity really hasn't helped the British very much and I wonder how much it will help the Americans.

Right now I think one of the most dangerous ideologies, that sadly still exists in White Nationalism, is social determinism. Whenever I see people blaming the jew media for the stupid behaviour of stupid whites, it is cringe worthy. Social determinism is almost like the official religion of modern Britain.

I do feel that forcing a clean break from the status quo is something that White Nationalists are going to have to pull off. It's a hard decision in the short term because of the immediate backlash, but in the long run a clean break from modernity where organised pro white groups impose their own standards upon their societies, marching to the beats of their own drums, would not only force clearer choices, and present a distinct alternative path but also potentially avoid the very real threat of having our racial problem "solved" by a half-assed jury rigged mish-mash of cultural/racial nationalism, led by fashion conscious career politicians, which could open the flood gate to a whole new set of problems.

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By forcing a choice, we also emphasize a Germanic way of thinking - precision - over the defective English way - muddling through. The English way is the bogus idea that contradictions don't matter. Principles don't matter. Friendship and personality are what matters. This false but common idea, all-pervasive in WN (except at VNN), is the reason Anglo-American Christian-based conservatism has never had a single triumph in its entire history, and has done nothing but sit down and go backwards. It has done nothing but become the sick sad pawns of judeo-bolshevism, bleating sheepily about race not mattering and diversity being our greatest strength.

Rising movements are intolerant, not tolerant. A truth so obvious even Pat Buchanan can grasp it.

Let's give it a raza blanca spin: for those who put race first - everything. For those who don't - nothing.
The germanic vs english thinking dynamic you mention could otherwise, and perhaps more accurately be called masculine vs feminine thinking, or honest and truthful vs convenient etc.

What is perhaps so dangerous about what you call the english way of thinking is how powerful it actually is in practice. Something I noticed about people I perhaps unfairly write off as "stupid", due to their lack of big picture thinking, is just how fucking psychologically sturdy these people are. Contradiction doesn't faze them, and for them convenience is law. There is absolutely no reason for them not to change the subject mid argument. You catch them out? they change the subject and attempt to score a sentimental point. It's shriek politics basically. Screaming and shouting vs logic.

High logic and facts based movements are hard hitting and sturdy, but given enough pressure, it basically shatters permanently. So long as you are consistently right, you are fine, but you fuck up too many times and the whole structure collapses. The "english" logic as you call it, does not suffer like this. If the germanic way is like a rock, then the english way is like a sponge(or perhaps even water). It is easily squashed, but bounces back well, and can withstand pressure that would otherwise smash a boulder into pieces. When some sentimental loud mouth blob says dumb shit, nobody bats an eyelid, its expected, and their reputation is intact. When a highly intelligent individual makes a mistake however, their reputation is severely damaged, and they must return to the drawing board to make immediate repairs to their world view. One too many mistakes? and people will think their intelligence has finally driven them mad.

Why must the white race endure this cycle of neglecting problems until the last minute before taking decisive action? when it could simply look at the past, look at the present, draw up realistic plans for the future based on a practical life philosophy and then get right to work, efficiently removing all obstacles and threats it encounters? Such things frustrate me, and perhaps that is what is frustrating you.

The clash between higher thinking and the more archaic impulses and even superstitious inclinations is one that I do not think will be easily resolved, nor do I think that it necessarily has to be resolved for such things do have their survivalistic advantages. Sadly, as much as I prefer logic, precision and consistency over sentimentality, I do feel that the "germanic way" must take the role of general, and adviser to a more sentimental and perhaps even idealistic and superstitious(though not illogical) king. It may be "logical" to simply eat your own kids one day and have some others later on, or perhaps it would be better to not even bother being loyal to any particular group but instead put all of your time and energy into trying to prolong your own life eternally, or, if finding this to be an impossibility, perhaps it would be more logical to simply enjoy the ride rather than concern yourself with tomorrow, live like a mercenary and lie, cheat and steal as much as you need to get your own way. But would you live your life by such logic?

Logic is often referred to as "cold" for a reason. This is not to say that I don't think logic should keep emotion, sentimentality and superstition in check, it should, however, I also think that at times these things need to keep logic in check too, at least from a pro-social perspective.

Ultimately this all comes down to internal conflicts between forces within human nature itself. It will be interesting to see how it all plays out.
 
Old December 28th, 2012 #46
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Preserving the White race really isn't about anything other than preserving the pure, genetic/biological, uniqueness of White Europeans. That's it.

We are not doing it for a higher cause, not because Whites are more technologically advanced than other races; noy because we believe our morals and values are superior to other races. We strive to survive because we are, simply because we exist as a distinct and unique race - the only race that matters to us is ourselves.
I agree mostly, though I feel that the whites are a uniquely competent human population. There are many reasons I do not want whites to see the white race displaced with nonwhites in their homelands other than just simple sentimental tribalistic ones.
 
Old December 28th, 2012 #47
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I agree mostly, though I feel that the whites are a uniquely competent human population. There are many reasons I do not want whites to see the white race displaced with nonwhites in their homelands other than just simple sentimental tribalistic ones.
I agree, I'd like for our race to do more than survive, I just don't need any other justification for it beyond the fact of our existence.

What I'd like to see is for our race to not only survive, but to bring about the extinction of all the other human races so they can never again pose any sort of problem for us; although I don't see that as actually being a realistic goal at present, despite it being a very desirable goal in my view.

I also feel no need to justify wanting to accomplish that goal either. The fact that we want to is all the justification that we need as far as I'm concerned.
 
Old December 28th, 2012 #48
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What is the objective of VNN, Alex? Is it to make more people more Jew aware? That is the most important thing that I have taken from VNN -- becoming Jew aware. Or is it just an outlet / comment forum, with no objective at all?

It seems to me, that the objective of it, if there is one, is to make more people more Jew aware. If that is so, then why reject, out of hand, the people most in need of that kind of education?

Why insist on preaching ONLY to the choir?
 
Old December 28th, 2012 #49
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Contradiction doesn't phase them

Faze vs. phase
As a verb, phase means to plan or carry out systematically. It’s usually followed by in or out. For example, when you implement a plan little by little, you phase it in. When you abandon a plan little by little, you phase it out. Faze means to disrupt the composure of. If you are not bothered by something, you are unfazed.

Etymology
Faze derives from the now-obsolete feeze,1 which had several meanings, including (1) to drive away, and (2) to frighten.2 The word developed from this source in the American West during the 19th century.3 In early use, it was sometimes spelled phase, but the modern spelling was standard by around 1900.

Phase is older, having come to English from French in the 17th century.4 It originally referred primarily to phases of the moon and other celestial objects. The newer, nonastronomical senses developed in the 19th century.3

Examples
The words are easily mixed up. As with many homophone pairs, the more common one (phase) is often misused in place of the less common one (faze)—for example:

Losing Randy Moss didn’t phase him … [Opposing Views]

So the fact that there are still garden chores to do does not phase me. [Baltimore Sun]

These writers use the words well:

Being told to “screw off” didn’t faze Mayor John Williams during his inaugural speech before a crowd of more than 200 people Monday. [Trentonian]

On Monday, the DOE released a list of 11 schools set to be phased out and a charter school recommended for non-renewal. [NY1]

Uncanny replicas faze monkeys, too [Futurity]

China will phase in planned changes to its loan-loss provisioning rules to give banks time to adapt … [Reuters]

Totally unfazed by the elements, he threw for 369 more yards and two more touchdowns. [Boston Globe]

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Contradiction doesn't phase them

Faze vs. phase
As a verb, phase means to plan or carry out systematically. It’s usually followed by in or out. For example, when you implement a plan little by little, you phase it in. When you abandon a plan little by little, you phase it out. Faze means to disrupt the composure of. If you are not bothered by something, you are unfazed.

Etymology
Faze derives from the now-obsolete feeze,1 which had several meanings, including (1) to drive away, and (2) to frighten.2 The word developed from this source in the American West during the 19th century.3 In early use, it was sometimes spelled phase, but the modern spelling was standard by around 1900.

Phase is older, having come to English from French in the 17th century.4 It originally referred primarily to phases of the moon and other celestial objects. The newer, nonastronomical senses developed in the 19th century.3

Examples
The words are easily mixed up. As with many homophone pairs, the more common one (phase) is often misused in place of the less common one (faze)—for example:

Losing Randy Moss didn’t phase him … [Opposing Views]

So the fact that there are still garden chores to do does not phase me. [Baltimore Sun]

These writers use the words well:

Being told to “screw off” didn’t faze Mayor John Williams during his inaugural speech before a crowd of more than 200 people Monday. [Trentonian]

On Monday, the DOE released a list of 11 schools set to be phased out and a charter school recommended for non-renewal. [NY1]

Uncanny replicas faze monkeys, too [Futurity]

China will phase in planned changes to its loan-loss provisioning rules to give banks time to adapt … [Reuters]

Totally unfazed by the elements, he threw for 369 more yards and two more touchdowns. [Boston Globe]

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Are you an English teacher by profession, or simply a pedantic twit by nature?
 
Old December 28th, 2012 #51
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What is the objective of VNN, Alex? Is it to make more people more Jew aware? That is the most important thing that I have taken from VNN -- becoming Jew aware. Or is it just an outlet / comment forum, with no objective at all?
Non-enlightenment objectives on hold, for the moment. Observe anyone can read VNN, and further notice our ratio of readers posters is considerably higher than Stormfront's. That is, a considerably smaller frantion of our viewers posts than SF.

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It seems to me, that the objective of it, if there is one, is to make more people more Jew aware. If that is so, then why reject, out of hand, the people most in need of that kind of education?

Why insist on preaching ONLY to the choir?
They don't have anything to say, they have things to learn. You can't learn when you're flapping your gums. That's one. Second, if WN and the jebus cult are compatible, as these brainless human gummy worms pretend, then why must they pollute clean forum with their inanity? Answer: because they don't have any space in their pews, nor any tolerance from their preachers, to talk white. Therefore, their job is to go make White in jeboo's house, and quit cockroaching up our White house. Third, Jebooties are LCDs, and we already have enough of those. I tire of idiots. Fourth, we've gone years allowing these nuts, why not try a different tack, see what results we get? Do things get worse by raising standards? Or better? Fifth, as a practical matter, christians aren't bothered by hypocrisy / lying / contradictions, so the pratical effect of the new rules is merely but usefully that any christian who wants to post here will ignore the signup rule but KEEP HIS MOUTH SHUT ABOUT SUPERKIKE when posting lest he be banned. Sxith, we're grandfathering existing jebus nuts (we still have a few) so there will still be some legacy crankers if they choose to open mouth. Anyway, it smells like victory to me. Getting rid of CI cranks surely proved the right move. Getting rid of ordinary jebus nuts will likely also prove a solid move.

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I agree, I'd like for our race to do more than survive, I just don't need any other justification for it beyond the fact of our existence.

What I'd like to see is for our race to not only survive, but to bring about the extinction of all the other human races so they can never again pose any sort of problem for us; although I don't see that as actually being a realistic goal at present, despite it being a very desirable goal in my view.

I also feel no need to justify wanting to accomplish that goal either. The fact that we want to is all the justification that we need as far as I'm concerned.
Agreed. I don't think whites need to justify their existence to anyone. The will to survive is enough, and if that bothers people well? well, their desire to receive the drawin award is noted.
 
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Contradiction doesn't phase them

Faze vs. phase
As a verb, phase means to plan or carry out systematically. It’s usually followed by in or out. For example, when you implement a plan little by little, you phase it in. When you abandon a plan little by little, you phase it out. Faze means to disrupt the composure of. If you are not bothered by something, you are unfazed.

Etymology
Faze derives from the now-obsolete feeze,1 which had several meanings, including (1) to drive away, and (2) to frighten.2 The word developed from this source in the American West during the 19th century.3 In early use, it was sometimes spelled phase, but the modern spelling was standard by around 1900.

Phase is older, having come to English from French in the 17th century.4 It originally referred primarily to phases of the moon and other celestial objects. The newer, nonastronomical senses developed in the 19th century.3

Examples
The words are easily mixed up. As with many homophone pairs, the more common one (phase) is often misused in place of the less common one (faze)—for example:

Losing Randy Moss didn’t phase him … [Opposing Views]

So the fact that there are still garden chores to do does not phase me. [Baltimore Sun]

These writers use the words well:

Being told to “screw off” didn’t faze Mayor John Williams during his inaugural speech before a crowd of more than 200 people Monday. [Trentonian]

On Monday, the DOE released a list of 11 schools set to be phased out and a charter school recommended for non-renewal. [NY1]

Uncanny replicas faze monkeys, too [Futurity]

China will phase in planned changes to its loan-loss provisioning rules to give banks time to adapt … [Reuters]

Totally unfazed by the elements, he threw for 369 more yards and two more touchdowns. [Boston Globe]

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Those really bothered you eh?

Well, corrected and bolded.
 
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posted on VNN:

There is no such thing as "Christian genetics".

"Our poor, befuddled Goyim do not, in the main, understand the difference between a race & a religion,
just as they have been indoctrinated to equate “race” with place.
It is relevant to note that an Arab who is always a Semite, could adopt Buddhism, a non-Semitic religion, but he would still be a Semite, for that is his race.
Race is always distinct from religion.
That’s why we have two words with their distinct meanings.

When other races adopt &/or steal another race’s religion, as jews have mostly done,
they do not, thereby, change their race;
The majority of Moslems are not racially Semites, either, although they practice religious solidarity with Arabs who are also Moslems.
As we should also know, Arabs (Semites) are not all Moslems, although the majority are.
There are Arab Christians & Arab jews (Sephardim), whose religions are also Semitic, as is their race, but no one, except a jew, would claim to be a Semite because he had a Semitic religion.
Confucianism is a Chinese religion. Were I to adopt it, I would have no right, whatsoever, to call myself Chinese."

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"Every time new and promising opportunities for meddling have arisen," he brought out, "the Jew has been immediately involved. He has demonstrated an uncanny ability to sniff out like a bloodhound anything which was dangerous to him. Having found it, he uses all his cunning to get at it, to divert it, to change its nature, or, at least, to deflect its point from its goal. Schopenhauer called the Jew 'the dregs of mankind,' 'a beast,' 'the great master of the lie.' How does the Jew respond? He establishes a Schopenhauer Society. Likewise, the Kant Society in his work, in spite of the fact that -- or, rather, because -- Kant summarily declared the Jewish people to be a 'nation of swindlers.' [33] The same with the Goethe Society. 'We tolerate no Jews among us,' said Goethe. 'Their religion permits them to rob non-Jews,' he wrote. 'This crafty race has one great principle: as long as order prevails, there is nothing to be gained,' he continued.
He categorically emphasized: 'I refrain from all cooperation with Jews and their accomplices. [34]
All in vain; the Jewish Goethe Society is still there. It would be there even if he himself had expressly forbidden such knavery."
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General Lee,

Not allowing Christians to post here will make them more likely to want to post and/or lurk here. One pursues that which retreats.

It's a good rule, don't worry.
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Old December 29th, 2012 #56
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I got this Dishnetwork and there are just loads of Christian channels, I'd say at least a dozen.
Plus, they got these new TV satellite services , like SkyAngel, that are virtually all Christian programing.

Also, there is a new crop of digital channels, that you get over the digital airwaves. I was scanning the digital channels you can get here, for free, over the air, and there are about 12 new Christian channels.

Pictures are far more powerful than words. The first written languages were hieroglyphs, the alphabet evolved from pictures. Words and ideas were originally a series of hieroglyphs, or pictures. Words without pictures are abstract and have much less impact on people, I think.
 
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I can't agree with Alex Linder more on this vital issue. I go a step further in suggesting that Christianity is the entire reason for our downfall, because in its place, we'd have ethnic nationalist churches (the way Shintoism looks out for the Japanese, and Judaism looks out for Jews).

Every European country ought to remove Christianity from its churches, redecorate them, and instead of the Bible, discuss real history, science and philosophy, in addition to the people and culture specific to that country. The Church should act as an ethnic hub for our people to network.
 
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