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Old January 18th, 2016 #1
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will dig up earlier segments, but back to this today (2016-01-18). going subtitle by subtitle

The Feminization of American Culture, by Ann Douglas

http://www.vanguardnewsnetwork.com/M...s-FAC-Ch4b.mp3 (54m)

Notes: Ch4 (b): Conversion and Church Membership: From Testing to Playing. earlier calvinism insisted on dramatic conversion. shift to motherly approach. emphasis on love not judgment. kids naturally become church members. erasing difference between infant baptism and adult experience. doing away with older idea that you needed a dramatic conversion toward a milder, more feminine undramatic relation. increased importance of leisure and play as the religion grew less strict.

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Old January 19th, 2016 #2
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The Feminization of American Culture, by Ann Douglas

(c) Anti-Intellectualism and the Theology of Feeling

http://www.vanguardnewsnetwork.com/M...s-FAC-Ch4c.mp3 (1:07)


Ch4(c): Anti-Intellectualism and the Theology of Feeling. Catherine Beecher, brilliant but didnt get to go to school. Ida vs Eva van Arsdel in fiction of Harriet Beecher Stowe (HBS), Uncle Tom's Cabin and more. The intellectual-feminist spinster vs the anti intellectual, popular, feelings-based Eva. the intellectual decline of calvinism had bad and broad effects on american society, acknowledges 70s feminist author Ann Douglas. god of law, rigor, intellection, justice yields to god of feelings, love, mercy. women exalted over men - but they must stay out of preaching! contradiction there. piety and intellect come to be seen as at odds, where formerly they were commonly united in the old stern puritan fathers who founded the country. congregations went for younger, dumber men in their 30s, rather than old gray wise ones. harvard divinity declined intellectually said Eliot in 1883, going downhill for last 40 years. old school attitude expressed by Cotton Mather: after piousness, second most important attribute of a clergyman is his wide general knowledge. pastor/preacher as intellectual. not as funny fun time clown entertainer boy. emmons and hopkins were two such old-schoolers, trained hundreds. shift to pastoring and writing and away from theology, among ministers. timothy dwight (in johnathan edwards line) as example. shift from exegesis based on idea that CORRECT interpretation of Scripture is job #1 to cult of "self-nurture" and Social Gospel. decline in intellectual ability; loss of felt need for intellectual understanding of theology and bible. more about feelings and emotions and impressions. 1) old man, studying bible 12 hours a day, barely eating; 2) young man, more womanish preaching god of love, exalting women, doing good works in community. old view: "the right interpretation of Scripture was the 'cornerstone of religion.'" essentially students demanded dumbed-down curriculum, with less focus on theology. parallel to college students after massive increase in college population after wwii. only so many people can handle truly advanced material. the rest, even if white, will niggerlike demand the dropping of standards THEY CANT MEET. ... Park-Hodge debate. theology of logic or feelings. Park came for feelings. Hodge showed where this would lead. 1852 synod of congregationalists dumps "calvinism" from statement of self-definition. a sign of spreading liberalism, per Park.
 
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The Feminization of American Culture, by Ann Douglas

(d) Anti-Institutionalism: The Pastor and the Sentimental Heroine

http://www.vanguardnewsnetwork.com/M...s-FAC-Ch4d.mp3 (57m)

Ch4(d): Anti-Institutionalism: The Pastor and the Sentimental Heroine. new liberal minister puts "affections" over thoughts. that is, feelings. denominational differences matter less. ecumenicalism. and the concern with the poor. proto-social gospel, perhaps, even in 1820s. Joseph Tuckerman. dorothea dix. changing prisons and hospitals, helping the insane. these people didnt trust degrees, titles, institutions, they blazed thru like comets, preferring idiosyncratic individual passionate approaches, according to their own vision of what was necessary. they were effective. improve conditions by improving character. douglas: passionate precision alone justifies antipathy to institutional life. Ware, Jr. deal directly with poor or insane. anti-scholarship, preaching, pro-dealing with people directly, loving them, serving them.

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Old January 21st, 2016 #4
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The Feminization of American Culture, by Ann Douglas

Ch5: The Escape from History

The Static Imagination


a)

Teachers Without Texts

The Romantic Historians: History as Protestant Religion


http://www.vanguardnewsnetwork.com/M...s-FAC-Ch5a.mp3 (1:09)

Notes: Ch5: The Escape from History. subtitle one: Teachers without Texts. female values - nurturing, supportiveness. but against theorizing, the Victorians. personal and particular rather than social and programmatic. ministers similar to women and housewives as they desert theology and dogma (structure) for personal, emotional appeals. they lose their specific body of knowledge/expertise that gives them position and reason to compel respect. ministers and women authors may have been popular, but their words were insubstantial, dismissible. they dumped the gravitas of theological treatises for LCD emo garbage, essentially. This was the rise of mediocrity. no professional knowledge. no real admission of real goals. The Romantic Historians: History as Protestant Religion. americans were not concerned with theology (anti-intellectual). americans were interested in history, had huge number of historical societies which published much. hegel and tying philosophy/theology to history. change thru time. does every soul matter? yes to winthrop, no to hegel. it's all about the patterns arising from actual behavior. men dont necessarily know the ends they serve. we inspect god operating thru history, see much waste or no waste, according to hegel or winthrop. new focus on history. how does history relate to god/theology? can we see patterns - His working his way out using men thru time? opinions differed. "Of the seven most important figures in the development of post-Revolution American history -- George Ticknor, Edward Everett, Jared Sparks, George Bancroft, William Prescott, John Lothrop Motley, and Francis Parkman -- none were untouched by the new German historiography and the transformation of theology integral to it." (p.206). Four of the seven came from minister backgrounds, which they rejected for history, partly because ministry had become too liberal-effeminate. their fathers, real or metaphorical, might have prepared consolidated theological systems, but their sons would put that same effort into study of areas of history. German new or higher criticism - the search for historiicty of bible. search for actual FACTs - ranke's "wie es eigentlich gewesen war" - as it actually was - new way of looking at history, vs history as semi-biblical higher drama, tellnig of stories barely different from myths. where does change
come from? laws explain it, fact of it matters more. dialectic: synthesis coming from thesis and antithesis. these men worked 10-14 hour days and blew out their bodies in pursuing their vocations. great interest in dominant masculine energy as represented thru history, building of empires, violence, expansion. american history was political from first as regions sought control and definition of americanism, partly thru histories of their area's and men's role in revolution. idea of establishing facts by researching archives came to dominate history. intellectual power shifted from ministry to historian among these seven elite WASP writers, most of whom had background in ministry thru their families.

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Old January 23rd, 2016 #5
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The Feminization of American Culture



Intro: The Legacy of American Victorianism: The Meaning of Little Eva

http://www.vanguardnewsnetwork.com/M...ture-Intro.mp3

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- old-style Calvinism with masculine preachers, intellectual rigor, foundation of America's first and top universities, gives way, via complete disestablishment of Protestant churches by 1833, to a softened, sentimentalized, femized consumer mass culture dominated by a new alliance between a new breed of preachers and middle-class women. originally the religious DOCTRINE mattered in a church, when colonies in NE at least were founded; but this concern declined, and churchgoing became mere middle-class social function. feeling > thought. niceness > rigor. femininity > logic or masculinity, first within the cultural sphere (evolution from 1820 to 1875), then later, in 1900 on, in ENTIRE sphere (aided by jews, the feminized mindset for whites dominates not just the reading culture of middle class, but the entire, uh, Ideosphere). protestantism was a very different thing after than before. she puts dates at 1820 and 1875. different type of man becomes preacher; different concerns (serious theology vs catering to women clients/customers) in 1900 than in 1800. loss of status as preacher becomes another supplicant to the Shesus. from Edwardseans (sinners in the hands of an angry god - focused on INDIVIDUAL soul and sin and salvation) to namby-pamby anti-intellectual feelings-mush centered on love - which quickly perverted into Social Gospel around 1900. christianity in america evolved into something very useful to jews, just about the time they showed up. of course she doesnt touch on that part. ... douglas laments the rise of an anti-intellectual mass-consumerist, feminized but not feminist american culture; she wishes calvinist patriarchal intellectual rigor had opened to others rather than lowered. but can you have serious intellectual culture AND feminism at the same time? is intellectual culture consistent with non-patriarchal values, with matriarchy? douglas thinks so. but she might be wrong.

http://vnnforum.com/showthread.php?p...as#post1819696
 
Old January 23rd, 2016 #6
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The Feminization of American Culture (1977)

Part One: The Sentimentalization of Status


Ch. 1: Clerical Disestablishment

[the chapters in this book are quite long so we'll break them up into multiple segments. this is Ch1a.]
http://www.vanguardnewsnetwork.com/M...s-FAC-Ch1a.mp3 (59m)

- vocab: vitiation. how america became what it is today. softening. from logic to sentiment. from patriarchy to maudlin, soft, middle-class, feminine consumerism. outsiders and insiders agree that preaching has gone from men of strength and rigor to vaguely absurd pambies without anything substantial to say, catering to women. how america reached the state it was in when jews arrived in great numbers to pick up with their 'culture of critique.'

http://vnnforum.com/showpost.php?p=1...&postcount=471

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