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Old March 21st, 2019 #1
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Вечный еврей? Или не вечный? Это твое решение.
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Alex Him, do you support us at murdering jews?
I don't support you in this.



1) There will be no global change in the structure of the world after that.

After the disappearance of the Jews, people driven by hate will find new objects for it.



2) One of the favorite object of hatred in Europe for the past few centuries is the Russians.

In the absence of Jews, they will be the only significant object of hatred.


Just look what is happening now - Whale with harness could be Russian weapon, say Norwegian experts - https://www.theguardian.com/environm...wegian-experts
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I don't support you in this.



1) There will be no global change in the structure of the world after that.

After the disappearance of the Jews, people driven by hate will find new objects for it.



2) One of the favorite object of hatred in Europe for the past few centuries is the Russians.

In the absence of Jews, they will be the only significant object of hatred.


Just look what is happening now - Whale with harness could be Russian weapon, say Norwegian experts - https://www.theguardian.com/environm...wegian-experts
So if I got you right you treat Jews like an object of hatred, scapegoats, like Russians in the funny case of whales in Norway?
 
Old May 11th, 2019 #5
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So if I got you right you treat Jews like an object of hatred, scapegoats, like Russians in the funny case of whales in Norway?
The bourgeoisie strives to shift the brunt of the conflict potential (that always exists in bourgeois society) from itself to someone else. Jews are well suited for this purpose. I mean the conflict potential, which arises due to the difference in possibilities despite the declared equality of rights.

After that, all ideological opponents of capitalism are transformed into Judeo-.

Christianity is converted into Judeo-Christianity and the Bolsheviks into Judeo-Bolsheviks.

Do you think that the capitalists will not be able to find any scapegoat after the destruction of all Jews?
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The bourgeoisie strives to shift the brunt of the conflict potential (that always exists in bourgeois society) from itself to someone else. Jews are well suited for this purpose. I mean the conflict potential, which arises due to the difference in possibilities despite the declared equality of rights.

After that, all ideological opponents of capitalism are transformed into Judeo-.

Christianity is converted into Judeo-Christianity and the Bolsheviks into Judeo-Bolsheviks.
Confirm if I got your point right:
1) our principal rivals are capitalists (as economic group), but not the jews (as an ethnic minority)
2) there is a sort of confrontation between aforementioned capitalists and jews as capitalists are interested in demonizing jews.

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Do you think that the capitalists will not be able to find any scapegoat after the destruction of all Jews?
Hard to predict as there is visible way to destroy Jews today.
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After the disappearance of the Jews, people driven by hate will find new objects for it.
So "hate" simply exists, like air, and this disembodied ghost looks for people to possess, who then are driven by this ghost to attack the most convenient targets.

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One of the favorite object of hatred in Europe for the past few centuries is the Russians.
The enemies of Russia were and are the jews. Read Solzhenitsyn's Two Hundred Years Together.

I am suspicious of anyone whose position is "it's not the jews." Because he is lying. It is the jews.
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Confirm if I got your point right:
1) our principal rivals are capitalists (as economic group), but not the jews (as an ethnic minority)
Capitalists (as an economic group) are competitors of other economic groups existing in capitalist society.

Jews (as a people) are competitors of other peoples.



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2) there is a sort of confrontation between aforementioned capitalists and jews as capitalists are interested in demonizing jews.
Sometimes confrontation exists to a great extent sometimes it exists to a lesser extent. It depends on the circumstances of those times.

As far as I understand, in the 1920s in Germany the degree of rivalry between German businessmen of Jewish origin and German businessmen was quite high.



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Hard to predict as there is visible way to destroy Jews today.
As an assumption, let us assume that all Jews in the world have disappeared.

What will this change on a global scale?
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So "hate" simply exists, like air, and this disembodied ghost looks for people to possess, who then are driven by this ghost to attack the most convenient targets.
This is a distortion of my theses.

Hatred does not "simply exists, like air" it has specific causes and appears in specific circumstances.

In capitalist society, the reason for this is the inequality of opportunities between members of this society. After all, it is clear that people having $ 1 and people having a billion dollars have very different possibilities.



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The enemies of Russia were and are the jews.
The Polovtsi, the Pechenegs, the Mongols and other nomads who attacked ancient Russia. Were they Jewish?

Russian dukes who fought with each other for power, who walked on each other by military campaigns and ravaged each other’s cities. Were they Jewish?

German knights of the Livonian Order against whom Ivan the Terrible fought during the Livonian War. Were they Jewish?

Swedes against whom Peter the Great fought during the Northern War. Were they Jewish?

Ottoman Turks against whom Catherine II fought. Were they Jewish?

In the end maybe Napoleon and Hitler were Jews?



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Read Solzhenitsyn's Two Hundred Years Together.
Firstly, he was incompetent in this topic. He had no historical education.

Secondly, he was one of the main instruments of anti-Russian propaganda of the West.



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I am suspicious of anyone whose position is "it's not the jews."
It is your right.



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Because he is lying. It is the jews.
If I lie, then you will have pleasant opportunities to expose me.
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This "we" refers to which group? What do all the members of this group have in common?
The White nationalist movement united by wise knowledge about Global Jewry.
It's not that I'm trying to accuse you in something, but I'm going to synchronize the positions of Western WNs and true Russian nationalism of people like Putin and you.


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As an assumption, let us assume that all Jews in the world have disappeared.

What will this change on a global scale?
To answer this obvious question it's enough to understand what Jews bring to White race.

Okay, I want to ask you something else. I don't know what is your point of view on Hitler and Holocaust, but let take the official theory that Hitler attempted to exterminate 6 000 000 Jews. So my question is: if you had a chance in 1940s to save 6 000 000 Jews from extermination, would you save them or let them die? Would you risk lives of White soldiers to liberate Jews from Nazi camps like Soviet grandparents did in 1940s?
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The White nationalist movement united by wise knowledge about Global Jewry.
Your wise knowledge is some kind of dogma that is not subject to doubt?



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It's not that I'm trying to accuse you in something, but I'm going to synchronize the positions of Western WNs and true Russian nationalism of people like Putin and you.
I think that you are trying to achieve my ban because of my point of view.

I do not belong to any social, political or church group. Therefore, it is in vain to try to see in my personal thoughts the point of view of Putin or Russian liberals, nationalists, communists, fundamentalists, etc.



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To answer this obvious question it's enough to understand what Jews bring to White race.
This is not the answer to my question.

Although it’s not at all difficult for me to ask the next question: What did the Jews bring the White race?



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Okay, I want to ask you something else. I don't know what is your point of view on Hitler and Holocaust, but let take the official theory that Hitler attempted to exterminate 6 000 000 Jews. So my question is: if you had a chance in 1940s to save 6 000 000 Jews from extermination, would you save them or let them die?
I would be happy to save millions of any people, with the exception of the soldiers of the invading army attacking Russia.



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Would you risk lives of White soldiers to liberate Jews from Nazi camps like Soviet grandparents did in 1940s?
In the Nazi camps there were not only Jews there were representatives of many nations and very many of them were Russians. Therefore, the Russians liberated the camps not only for the sake of the Jews.

I don't consider myself entitled to judge those who gave their lives for what they considered important.

For me, the life of a Russian person is more valuable than the life of a Jew from Israel.
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To answer this obvious question it's enough to understand what Jews bring to White race.
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Although it’s not at all difficult for me to ask the next question: What did the Jews bring the White race?
Hmm...let's see... Pedophilia, sex-change operations for children, sex slave trade, third-world criminals...

Jews refuse to report jewish pedophiles to the (non-jewish) police

https://vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=549697

Jews force European women to become sex slaves in Israel

https://vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=550967

Jews talk about how they use Ukraine's women as sex servants, turning the country into a brothel

https://vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=551355

Jew doctor is pushing for sex-change treatment for children – his rabbi supports him

https://vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=551357

Jewish academic says that jews will lead the new, multicultural Europe

https://vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=551227

Crooked jewish NGO once again brings rapeugees to Europe. Italy says: ENOUGH!

https://vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=549982

Oh, and of course...genocide:

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(...) We mustn't forget that some of greatest murderers of modern times were Jewish
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An Israeli student finishes high school without ever hearing the name "Genrikh Yagoda," the greatest Jewish murderer of the 20th Century, the GPU's deputy commander and the founder and commander of the NKVD. Yagoda diligently implemented Stalin's collectivization orders and is responsible for the deaths of at least 10 million people. His Jewish deputies established and managed the Gulag system.
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Stalin's close associates and loyalists included member of the Central Committee and Politburo Lazar Kaganovich.
(…)
Many Jews sold their soul to the devil of the Communist revolution and have blood on their hands for eternity. We'll mention just one more: Leonid Reichman, head of the NKVD's special department and the organization's chief interrogator, who was a particularly cruel sadist.
https://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,...342999,00.html
 
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Your wise knowledge is some kind of dogma that is not subject to doubt?
It's not dogma, it's like a scientific fact, read the Stewart Meadows' post. This forum is mainly about Jewish crimes, I even thought it's impossible to pack the whole forum in the single post but Stewart managed to do it.


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I think that you are trying to achieve my ban because of my point of view.
Hell no! I don't think you hate hitlerism, racialism and anti-NWO fight so much to be banned here. I don't even think you're not right, I state the difference between you and typical WN views, so maybe you can be right and we all are wrong. I'm still your friend.



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I would be happy to save millions of any people, with the exception of the soldiers of the invading army attacking Russia.
We don't argue that life of a Russian person is more valuable than the life of a Jew from Israel, but I was asking something else. Would you save millions of Jews in hypothetical concentration camps of Hitler if they were put alone (without Soviet captives)?
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Hmm...let's see... Pedophilia, sex-change operations for children, sex slave trade, third-world criminals...

Jews refuse to report jewish pedophiles to the (non-jewish) police

https://vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=549697
I will analyze your links gradually.

Firstly, your heading Jews refuse to report jewish pedophiles to the (non-jewish) police is inadequate. In the first link we can see that the Jews did not report pedophilia of the police of Jerusalem, i.e. Jewish police.

Secondly, I do not see anything strange and unnatural in this phenomenon. Any community seeks self-regulation.

When I served in the army, there among the soldiers and sergeants it was considered unacceptable to appeal to officers to resolve conflicts that arose among the soldiers. If a soldier did this, then his colleagues could boycott him.

The same was in my school but in a less rigid and principled form. If there was a conflict between classmates, then in this case we rarely appealed to teachers for help. As a rule, such a conflict was resolved with the help of a fight.

It is also not uncommon to have cases such as those described in the first link when a family does not go to the police when crimes against its members are committed inside it.

Should we place all the blame on Jews for this widespread and universal feature of group psychology?

The main thing is that in the links provided by you nowhere pedophilia is recognized as a normal course of action of the Jew. In these articles, Jews was not campaigned to engage in pedophilia. There are no advices in the articles to spread pedophilia among other nations.

Instead, in the fourth link, you can read what Rabbi Chaim Kanievsky, a leading Israeli rabbi and posek in Haredi Jewish society ruled that reporting instances of sexual child abuse to the police is consistent with Jewish law. Other major Orthodox poskim in America, such as Rabbi Hershel Shachter also concur that abuse cases should be reported in full to the civil authorities.


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In 2018 you fed us very fresh news from 2009, 2003 and 2013.





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Oh, and of course...genocide:

Genrikh Yagoda, the greatest Jewish murderer of the 20th Century. Yagoda diligently implemented Stalin's collectivization orders and is responsible for the deaths of at least 10 million people.

https://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,...342999,00.html
Without waiting for the queue, I immediately want to ask you: Do you know what the figure of 10 million people is based on?
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It's not dogma, it's like a scientific fact, read the Stewart Meadows' post. This forum is mainly about Jewish crimes, I even thought it's impossible to pack the whole forum in the single post but Stewart managed to do it.
Now I will answer your question.

For all believers in something like in a scientific fact, their prejudices are the main competitor for their minds.





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I state the difference between you and typical WN views
And of course you have no idea what the posting of unorthodox views on the forum will lead to, where everyone is convinced of certain ideas as a scientific fact. Right?





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We don't argue that life of a Russian person is more valuable than the life of a Jew from Israel, but I was asking something else. Would you save millions of Jews in hypothetical concentration camps of Hitler if they were put alone (without Soviet captives)?
I already answered the question when I wrote I would be happy to save millions of any people.

If you do not understand then my answer was Yes.
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And of course you have no idea what the posting of unorthodox views on the forum will lead to, where everyone is convinced of certain ideas as a scientific fact. Right?
There is nothing dangerous to have kinda different views unless you completely reject national-socialist ideas. Are you really sure your views so "unorthodox" to make you less compatible with White Nationalism than SF (((Serbians))) and SF (((Russians)))?


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I already answered the question when I wrote I would be happy to save millions of any people.
Got it.
Would you keep alive billions of non-whites as well? I just remind you that less than 5% of Earth population are Whites.
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I will analyze your links gradually.

Firstly, your heading Jews refuse to report jewish pedophiles to the (non-jewish) police is inadequate. In the first link we can see that the Jews did not report pedophilia of the police of Jerusalem, i.e. Jewish police.
In the thread that I linked to, I showed that jewish religious and political leaders, headmasters of jewish schools, jewish lawyers and jewish neighborhood watch groups all over the world protect jewish criminals – even child rapists – by refusing to report them to their host country's police, and I also showed that this refusal to co-operate with non-jewish authorities is part of their religion and tradition. Here are just a couple of articles from my thread:

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(...) "Kids are molested continually," said Rabbi Benzion Twerski, a psychotherapist in private practice in Brooklyn's haredi community. (…) "The perpetrators are more often than not faculty. When these things happen, they get shushed up real quick and the rebbe or faculty member gets moved around to different jobs. They get shuffled around, not moved out of town, because people think it will go away," he said. "The majority of cases get swept under the rug.
http://www.thejewishweek.com/feature...s_coming_light

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After Molestation Accusation, Dutch Jewish School Adopts Unusual Response


(...) After the Paris indictment, the Council of European Rabbis, in which Jacobs plays a prominent role, issued a strongly worded statement instructing Jewish schools to stop covering up sexual abuses and go to police immediately.” The statement was seen as rejecting the applicability to sex abuse cases of the religious concept of mesirah, a traditional prohibition on reporting fellow Jews to secular authorities.
http://jewishweek.timesofisrael.com/...sual-response/

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Judge: Orthodox Protect Abusers, Not Victims


(...) Speaking from the bench the day after Yom Kippur at the sentencing of Yona Weinberg, who received a 13-month jail term, Reichbach said he found it “troubling” that the community “seeks to blame, indeed punish victims who seek justice from the ... civil society,” according to a court transcript. He went on to add that the Orthodox community’s religious courts are “inappropriate” and “incapable” of dealing with criminal matters.
http://www.thejewishweek.com/feature...rs_not_victims

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The Child-Rape Assembly Line

Meeting the Rabbi who's been ostracised for sounding the alarm on child rape.
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On his lap, facing away from him, is a boy, maybe seven years old. And the old man is having anal sex with this boy.”
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In Ritual Bathhouses of the Jewish Orthodoxy, Children Are Systematically Abused (…) Rabbi Rosenberg believes around half of young males in Brooklyn’s Hasidic community – the largest in the United States and one of the largest in the world – have been victims of sexual assault perpetrated by their elders.
http://www.vice.com/en_uk/read/the-c...0000141-v20n11

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Secondly, I do not see anything strange and unnatural in this phenomenon. Any community seeks self-regulation.
Really? In my thread I wrote about how "Western" jews commit serious crimes in their Western host country, like murder and child-rape, and then flee to Israel and live a comfortable life there because the Israeli authorities refuse to extradite them. Here's an example from the jewish newspaper The Algemeiner:

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Mondrowitz has been living in Israel since skipping out on the New York warrants almost thirty years ago. (…) In 1985, Mondrowitz was indicted, in absentia, on four counts of sodomy and eight counts of sexual abuse in the first degree against four Italian-American boys, ages 11 to 16,
https://www.algemeiner.com/2013/07/2...sailant-video/

This is unique to jews.

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In 2018 you fed us very fresh news from 2009, 2003 and 2013.
Note:

The thread has 102 posts, and it's filled with a huge amount of newspaper articles – new ones as well as old ones – about how jewish communities and institutions all over the world cover for jewish child-rapists. The article in my last post is less than two weeks old.

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Early estimates of the death toll by scholars and government officials varied greatly.[14] According to higher estimates, up to 12 million[15] ethnic Ukrainians were said to have perished as a result of the famine. A U.N. joint statement signed by 25 countries in 2003 declared that 7–10 million perished.[16] Research has since narrowed the estimates to between 3.3[17] and 7.5[18] million. According to the findings of the Court of Appeal of Kiev in 2010, the demographic losses due to the famine amounted to 10 million, with 3.9 million direct famine deaths, and a further 6.1 million birth deficits.[19]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor
 
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I don't support you in this.

1) There will be no global change in the structure of the world after that.

After the disappearance of the Jews, people driven by hate will find new objects for it.

2) One of the favorite object of hatred in Europe for the past few centuries is the Russians.

In the absence of Jews, they will be the only significant object of hatred.

Just look what is happening now - Whale with harness could be Russian weapon, say Norwegian experts - https://www.theguardian.com/environm...wegian-experts
Ill never forget what a Russian ex-pat friend who I would trust with my life said me years ago when I prefaced a sentence with "well, Russians are Whites ...." he cut me right off cold and said "No ...Russians are Russians."

You are correct, if the jews were killed off tomorrow most of the anti-semites of today in the West would become anti-Russian.

I said most, certainly not myself.


I dont agree with you about the no global change part if the tribe were wiped out tho, that goes against reason.
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You are correct, if the jews were killed off tomorrow most of the anti-semites of today in the West would become anti-Russian.
I disagree. Jew-wise people (or "antisemites", as you call them) despise jews for the reasons I listed in one of my previous posts, i.e. for using their enormous influence in Western media and politics to push for destructive things like third-world immigration, feminism, homosexuality, transsexualism, pedophilia (yes, jews actually promote sex with children) and zionist wars in the Middle East.

Russians don't do any of these despicable things, and jew-wise people know that.

P.S. I'm not the one who gave you a thumbs down for your post.
 
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I disagree. Jew-wise people (or "antisemites", as you call them) despise jews for the reasons I listed in one of my previous posts, i.e. for using their enormous influence in Western media and politics to push for destructive things like third-world immigration, feminism, homosexuality, transsexualism, pedophilia (yes, jews actually promote sex with children) and zionist wars in the Middle East.
I know all about the tribe and their negative effects on my country, I've been pro white for decades and dont need a lecture on jews from a newbie like you. And I'll use any fucking term that I please in voicing my opinions, thanks.

I consider myself an anti-semite, I dislike all semitic peoples and consider them all my enemies. And their ridiculous religions superstitions.

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Russians don't do any of these despicable things, and jew-wise people know that.
It's not about that, its about how Russians have been unjustifiably viewed as "backwards" and "foreign" in the West for the past few centuries and lingering animosity from the 'cold war' and communism. I know 'pro-white' folks in the US who still refer to Russians as 'commies' today.

Alex Him is right on stating that with the jew out of the way Russians will become the most reviled nationality in the West. In my opinion.

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Are you serious ...like I could give one fuck about whether some anonymous likes or doesn't like my opinion?

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