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I wonder about laws of evidence in this case. Can the police steal. . .er, confiscate currency and hold it indefinitely, if it is found on the putative premises at which a crime is to have transpired? If not, does the same hold for bullion, which may be at issue here? Does the issue of legal and non-legal tender come into play, ie, would non-legal tender silver be treated differently than legal tender ASEs? Any such seizure--legal or not--would of necessity place the defendent in a hardship situation, perhaps by design. |
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June 22nd, 2010 | #325 |
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There are two motivation factors. On this side, Steel is a victim of zog. And in the other, financially. Most of the crimes are money motivated the authorities look into first.
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June 22nd, 2010 | #326 |
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Man of Steel Claims that He Was Framed
It is looking more and more like Steele has his wits about him and was framed. He is going to have to discredit the audio recording now. Here are a few more interesting clues.
======== http://www.krem.com/news/local/Steel...-96906969.html Judge orders Steele held in jail in murder for hire plot COEUR D'ALENE, Idaho -- A federal judge ordered former Aryan Nations attorney Edgar Steele, who's accused of hiring a hitman to kill his wife, to stay in jail until his trial starts. Steele said the murder for hire charge is "one giant plot against me" during his detention hearing on Tuesday in the U.S. Federal Courthouse in Coeur d'Alene. Steele was represented by attorney Roger Pevan in the hearing that determined whether he will remain in jail until his trial. During the hearing Tuesday, a portion of an audio tape was played in court of a conversation from jail on June 13th between Steele and his son, Rex, and his wife, Cyndi. Prosecutors said Steele is heard telling his wife and son that two recorded phone conversations between Steele and the alleged hitman, Larry Fairfax, do not contain Steele's voice and he denied plotting to kill his wife. Steele claimed in the call from jail that it's all "one giant plot against me." Steele was arrested June 12 in Sagle, ID. According to the FBI, it was the same day the hit was supposed to take place. Investigators with the FBI told KREM 2 News Steele paid Fairfax $500 up front for the hit on his wife and mother-in-law, and told them he would pay another $100,000 if the insurance settlement came through. The FBI says the plan was to make the hit "look like an accident." Both women were located in Oregon City, Oregon, where Steele's wife was visiting her sick mother. The FBI believes Steele may have been planning the hit for 6 months. Steele is not seperated from his wife. |
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Why not play the actual tape they claim to have of him plotting to kill his wife. The tape they are here reported to have played at court is as irrelevant as one of Steele using the bathroom. |
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Is Steele a Rich Man?
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Is Steele a Rich Man?
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I'm beginning to think that Steele is a rich man and will be able to afford all of the young beautiful honeys that he can stand. If he lives, that is. With all of the people who support him, they will be hard pressed to kill him in jail now. This is especially true with that scumbag Fairfax for an informant. He should have been in prison long before this anyway. |
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More on Jail Phone Call Recordings
Note that Steele is to be jailed until the trial which is set for 6 August.
======== http://www.khq.com/global/story.asp?s=12690828 CDA Bomb Case: Steele to Remain in Custody Until Trial Posted: Jun 22, 2010 1:12 PM Updated: Jun 22, 2010 5:10 PM COEUR d'ALENE, Idaho - A federal judge ordered murder-for-hire suspect Edgar Steele to remain in the U.S. Marshal's custody until his trial in a detention hearing Tuesday morning. Edgar Steele was indicted last week in a murder-for-hire plot. Steele allegedly paid Larry Fairfax to arrange a car accident to kill his wife and mother-in-law. The judge made her ruling based on jailhouse phone calls played in court that determined Steele could possibly attempt to intimidate his wife and others who are witnesses to the case. Edgar Steele made phone calls to both his son and wife from jail. Authorities said they had recordings between Steele and Fairfax discussing the murder-for-hire plot, and needed Steele's wife to authenticate the tapes by identifying Steele's voice. The phone call between Steele and his wife were played in open court. Steele told his wife in the phone call that she has to tell the authorities "that is not my husband's voice". He also told her, "I would never hire someone to kill anybody, least of all you." Edgar Steele will be held in the Spokane County jail until his trial on August 6th. Previous Coverage: COEUR D' ALENE Idaho. - A federal judge ruled Monday afternoon that Larry Fairfax should not be released from the custody of U.S., Marshals. The judge said she could not reasonably assure the safety of certain people within the community based on the evidence presented by government. Special agents with both the FBI and ATF testified against Fairfax. Fairfax admitted he had built two pipe bombs as part of a murder-for-hire plot. He admitted he was hired by attorney Edgar Steele to kill Steele's wife. The plan was for the device to explode while she traveled to Oregon, causing the wife's car to crash and kill her. The FBI special agent also testified that Fairfax had been working with them about the suspected murder-for-hire plot involving attorney Edgar Steele prior to the pipe bomb being discovered on June 15th. Fairfax never mentioned to the FBI that he had placed a pipe bomb underneath Cyndi Steele's SUV. In court, Fairfax's lawyer argued that his defendant never intended for the bomb to explode. He said that Fairfax taped the fuse to prevent it from igniting. Fairfax also traveled to Oregon City, Oregon, where Cyndi Steele was staying to see if the bomb was still attached to her car. He didn't see it and thought it had fallen off. It was later discovered attached to the car when the SUV was taken to a Quick Lube shop in Coeur d'Alene. Fairfax says he received $10,000 in silver coins from Edgar Steele to kill Steele's wife. Fairfax's attorney says Fairfax intended to take the money and not commit the murder. He says that is why he taped the fuse of the bomb. |
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Pardon me, but how can any one make a car accident seem like a car accident when an explosian takes place ?
Wouldn't some police investigate a car accident with death resulting by looking all over the car ? Is there something missing I don't understand ? If there is a insurance investigator on line tonight if you please, kindly explain this. Isn't it inplausible to make it look like an accident as stated by the press reports to state ?
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Hhmmm - some commentary posted at the end of this Bonner County Daily Bee article may shed light on the informant Larry Fairfax's character:
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Judge orders Steele held in jail in murder for hire plot
The above link has video which plays the part of the calls Steele made to his wife and son. Steele to son: "I'm betting this is a mission impossible job. In other words, it's going to be perfect and it's going to be very incriminating." One bad sign is that Steele's wife and son did not appear at the hearing. Note that the reporter states something like: "Steele begged is wife and son to lie". But I guess that is acceptable reporting if the reporter prefixed it with "prosecutors said" But it also true that Steele was acting as his own attorney at the time and it seems reasonable that he had the right to give legal guidance to the people closet to him with regards to the case. It is also true, that Steele being a lawyer, knew his jail house calls were being recorded and would not have told anybody to lie. If the prosecutors really believe that Steele was telling people to lie to investigators, wouldn't that be illegal and wouldn't prosecutors be adding the charge of witness tampering? So again, prosecutors are lying and the media is repeating the the prosecutors lies. |
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Edgar Steele accuses government of "Mission Impossible Level Plot
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It seems clear that Steele has a Ukrainian girlfriend? Hell hath no fury ... Well maybe the Ukrainian could be a character witness for Steele. Don't want to think of the "M" word. [END UPDATE] Uh-oh. Who's Ukrainian girlfriend? Steele or his sons? Since nobody else reported this we can only hope that it is Steele's son's Ukrainian girlfriend. Can't imagine other MSM source would not try to exploit this. Could Steele, at age 65, ops I mean 64, twelve years after surviving prostate cancer, 6 months after surviving a near fatal heart still be search for young women? This guy testosterone levels must be exceptional high. Quote:
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Great! The MSM will fun with that, attorney with ties to sexual predator, child sexual torturer, and serial murder to defend attorney with ties to racist, anti-semetic, neo-Nazi groups who tried to have his wife and mother-in-law murdered by hit-man Saint Larry Fairfax. |
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Full conversation with son and wife:
http://www.kxly.com/localvideo/index.html?v=21568 Said they plan to use the tapes as evidence without authenticating them first [WTF!?] and they plan to get his wife to say it "sounds like him" to convict him.
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Burden of proof appaently now on government in asset forfeiture seizures...
See U.S. + "preponderance of evidence" and that it is meant to be punitive AFTER a conviction.
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The video at http://www.nwcn.com/news/idaho/Judge...-96943409.html hangs up for me just before Steele's wife started talking. It was OK later.
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