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Old July 23rd, 2019 #41
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So why don't you both join Gary Raikes' NBU and try to promote Fascism in the UK? You get the whole shebang... cosplay, salutes, LARP, gay sex, etc. You'd both absolutely love it. You could even ask (((Cornelius))) to lend you one of his silly hats, now that he has changed sides and wont be needing them anymore.
I believe Crowe is American.

Seriously Joe, why do you go out of your way to promote the image of an obvious clown like Raikes and conflate his larping with the serious socioeconomic system of fascism? Beyond the nonsense you posted about "the whole shebang... cosplay, salutes, LARP, gay sex, etc" what do you actually know about fascism? Could you write an essay on the conversion of Mussolini from Marxist journalist/intellectual to fascist revolutionary? Perhaps a comment or two on Mussolini's decision to explicitly adopt Giovanni Gentile's 'neo-idealist' convictions concerning the state which, according to Roberto Farinacci (Fascist Party General Secretary), was realized in the forming of the "ethical" and "totalitarian" state. You could explain Mosley's evolution from Baronet to socialist to fascist. Tell us about his socioeconomic ideas. Ideas which were rejected by colleagues who were without ideas of their own, thereby leading to his resignation from the the Labour Party. Tell us about the formation of his New Party and explain the reasons for its breakup. Give reasons for Mosley's conversion to the fascist model of governance. Tell us about his development as an economic thinker. The influence of the early J. M Keynes and the points over which they later disagreed. Then tell us about the influence of the heterodox economists on the policies of the BUF and British intellectualism in general. Talk about Fabian opposition to these ideas and their own interpretation of how the "New World" should be forged. Tell us about how certain Jewish financiers poured money into the Fabians and its citadel of propaganda the London School of Economics. There's just a few suggestions for you to consider...
 
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Well, VNNUK is the village with more than one gay, so it seems you have come to the right place.
The only other flagrant homosexual I've seen post in VNN UK, other than Cornelius, is you.

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So why don't you both join Gary Raikes' NBU and try to promote Fascism in the UK? You get the whole shebang... cosplay, salutes, LARP, gay sex, etc. You'd both absolutely love it. You could even ask (((Cornelius))) to lend you one of his silly hats, now that he has changed sides and wont be needing them anymore.
I'm not familiar with the groups or people you mention, but if you can't separate fags with a sadomasochistic "Nazi" fetish from people who believe Fascism works in a real, legitimate sense, then you must have an agenda that's not entirely heterosexual. Maybe Henry is right and you're a Tory. It doesn't get any gayer than Democracy.
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Old July 23rd, 2019 #43
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I could write such an essay on these events that happened around 80-90 years ago, but I am not going to. I don't have that much free time on my hands and if I did, I couldn't be arsed. It's useless information in 2019.

Those days are long gone, never to return. Focus must be shifted from days gone by to the present day and what we can do in the here-and-now.
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The only other flagrant homosexual I've seen post in VNN UK, other than Cornelius, is you.
I take it you have never encountered Naomi, Rachel Hatred, Angry Of Mayfair, Barbie C or Gerry Fable?
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Those days are long gone, never to return. Focus must be shifted from days gone by to the present day and what we can do in the here-and-now.
Nobody here said that Fascism was marketable to the masses in 2019. In a traditional be sense

I agree with you that the NBU is a clown show.

That being said, it might be possible to rebrand Fascism as something else, and the proles might like it.

If you were to ask the average British prole what they thought about British jobs going to British citizens, first, many would agree.

Why not try micro-politics? Raise a single issue, then press it, and only it, until it's gotten enough attention, then move onto another?

Britain seems pretty well hamstrung when it comes to pushing any remotely radical policies. You're treading on thin ice. You all seriously fucked up when you let your government take your gun rights away, and now you have no real recourse against (((tyranny))). You're all now a bunch of hapless peasants without so much as a pitchfork to defend yourself against (((The Lord's))) knights.

Your political situation is as least as fucked as ours in the US, if not moreso. In similar and differing ways.
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Old July 23rd, 2019 #46
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Nobody here said that Fascism was marketable to the masses in 2019. In a traditional be sense
So why bother with an ideology that cannot be sold to the masses in all of it's naked glory? Why fight a losing battle? Why whip a horse that died 75 years ago? Adopt the parts still applicable in 2019, fuck the rest off and adopt a new, workable strategy.

The enemy love us wasting our time trying to take the UK back to the 1930's.

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Why not try micro-politics? Raise a single issue, then press it, and only it, until it's gotten enough attention, then move onto another?

Britain seems pretty well hamstrung when it comes to pushing any remotely radical policies. You're treading on thin ice. You all seriously fucked up when you let your government take your gun rights away, and now you have no real recourse against (((tyranny))). You're all now a bunch of hapless peasants without so much as a pitchfork to defend yourself against (((The Lord's))) knights.

Your political situation is as least as fucked as ours in the US, if not moreso. In similar and differing ways.

Now you are talking my language. Sensible, serious politics.

It's workable to mention several topics at once. Take the visible problems and challenges our country faces and sell our solution to our people in a positive political message. Tell people what we are going to do for them and why they should get behind us.

Sell them the solution instead of pointing at the problem and offering nothing.

The situation has been bad, but it can change and might very soon. The EU referendum could be the cause of the avalanche that buries the establishment.

The next chapter is yet to be written.
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Old July 23rd, 2019 #47
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Nobody here said that Fascism was marketable to the masses in 2019...
Perhaps but what is "marketable" is every disgusting form of porography, drink, drugs, unlimited debt, zero hours contracts, pension confiscation and denial of agreed age retirement, unlimited immigration, miscegenation, endless broadcasting of sport and programs that pander to increasingly low IQ citizenry and the promotion and empowerment of every form of degeneracy known to the sickest minds of Men. Fascism is the diametric opposite of that system which is the nexus of the damned. Asymmetrical Democracy will never allow this dystopia to be replaced by the symmetrical perfections that only fascism can attain. Democracy is literally a racket and the odds against it being corrected cannot be overcome by the mythical power of the ballot box.

Democracy is the mass deceit that gave life to Clown World and today it appointed its latest Head of Entertainment...

 
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List of people who at some point in the last 120 years were slipped into 10 Downing St as Prime Minister without having gained support from voters for election to said office at the time of appointment ...

Boris Johnson
Theresa May
Gordon Brown
John Major
Jim Callaghan
Alec Douglas-Home
Harold MacMillan
Anthony Eden
Winston Churchill
Stanley Baldwin
Ramsay MacDonald
David Lloyd-George
H H Asquith
Sir Arthur Balfour

So much for democratic expression of "the will of the people"
 
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We all can't wait to hear your great strategy to take power or what "Practicing Fascism" involves.
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We all can't wait to hear your great strategy to take power or what "Practicing Fascism" involves.
It's customary good practice to link to the person you're addressing. That way the other party is alerted to your comment and is able to respond if they so wish. However it's apparent that you often have a tendency to not do this and one is tempted to think that when you really wish to end an argument you choose to post in such an underhanded way (as on this thread) thereby hoping to end the exchange by having the 'last word' seemingly left unanswered by your opponent.

When you post an essay that demonstrates that you have a detailed and RATIONAL understanding of fascism then I'll consider your request which given your hapless attempt to end the conversation here is obviously not a serious one

As things stand this previous response for the requested essay is unacceptable...
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I could write such an essay on these events that happened around 80-90 years ago, but I am not going to. I don't have that much free time on my hands and if I did, I couldn't be arsed. It's useless information in 2019.....
 
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It's sickeningly obvious that "whoever" directs/owns these things has told them to run around playing the next Act: Further Betrayal & Signing of the EU Treaty.
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I do not think Britain will leave the EU either. So many cunning scumbags working and meddling.
 
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I do not think Britain will leave the EU either. So many cunning scumbags working and meddling.
Agreed.

At this stage, I presume the smirking Supreme Court could overrule it anyway. (and have been waiting gleefully since their Blair creature for this very moment)

But how can a kritocracy be a member of the European Union, it doesn't fit the criteria.

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To join the EU, a state needs to fulfil economic and political conditions called the Copenhagen criteria (after the Copenhagen summit in June 1993), which require a stable democratic government that respects the rule of law, and its corresponding freedoms and institutions.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enlarg...European_Union
I'm sure there will be an "Article" somewhere that overrides this inconvenience.

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Right on schedule, a Surrender Treaty has of course, been agreed upon.



Brexit deal has been struck - Johnson and Juncker announce 'fair and balanced' agreement

https://www.rt.com/news/471111-brexi...-announcement/

 
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