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Old July 27th, 2005 #1
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Default Jew Plan for Economic Enslavement of Goyim, proven by Jew-Bible AND Protocols of Zion

The Protocols merely echo the blueprint for economic enslavement and subjugation of gentile nations found right in the Jewish Old Testament. In that book, the Jewish writers claimed Yahweh said to the Jews:


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"The rich rule over the poor, and the borrower is servant to the lender."
- Proverbs 22:7

"Do not charge your brother interest... You may charge a foreigner interest."
- Deuteronomy 23:19-20

"You will lend to many nations, but you will not borrow. You will reign over many nations, but no nation will reign over you."
- Deuteronomy 15:6

"Though I completely destroy all the nations among which I scatter you, I will not destroy you."
- Jeremiah 30:11

"For the nation or kingdom that will not serve you will perish; it will be utterly destroyed."
- Isaiah 60:12

"This is what the LORD, the God of Israel, said to me: 'Take from my hand this cup filled with the wine of my wrath and make all the nations to whom I send you drink it. When they drink it, they will stagger and go mad because of the sword I will send among them.' So I took the cup from the LORD's hand and made all the nations to whom he sent me drink it: ... all the kings of the North, near and far, one after the otherall the kingdoms on the face of the earth. 'Then tell them, 'This is what the LORD Almighty, the God of Israel, says: Drink, get drunk and vomit, and fall to rise no more because of the sword I will send among you.' "

- Jeremiah 25:15-17, 26,27
Think about it... who are "all the kings of the north, near and far", from the perspective of ancient Israel and Babylon, where those old testament words were penned?

It is our rulers, and our nations, those of the European/Caucasian/Aryan peoples that were specifically targeted for destruction through predatory moneylending.

All these biblical commandments and prophecies of the Jewish writers to the Jews line up perfectly with the plan of the Protocols, which is to destroy every kingdom, and subjugate every nation through economic slavery.

Is that a coincidence?

I don't think so.


Now, contrast the economically predatory advice of the Jewish scriptwriters to their own people, with the economically suicidal advice they gave to us Northern goyim in the New Testament:


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"If someone takes your cloak, do not stop him from taking your tunic. Give to everyone who asks you, and if anyone takes what belongs to you, do not demand it back."
- Luke 6:29-30

"And if you lend to those from whom you expect repayment, what credit is that to you? Even 'sinners' lend to 'sinners,' expecting to be repaid in full. But love your enemies, do good to them, and lend to them without expecting to get anything back."
- Luke 6:34-35
Do you see the difference?

Now you know why the Jewish scriptwriters of the New Testament wanted us Northern goyim to become Christians and think of ourselves as "sheep", because the Jews were shepherds, and to them, sheep are meant to be sheared and slaughtered for profit... their profit.

As financial eductor Robert Kiyosaki's "Rich Dad" told him about moneylending as reported in his book "Cashflow Quadrant":


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"The name of the game in Capitalism is "Who is indebted to whom?"

"The more people you are indebted to, the poorer you are," said Rich Dad. "And the more people you have indebted to you, the wealthier you are. That is the game."

- pg. 111 "Cashflow Quadrant: Rich Dads Guide to Financial Freedom"
As you can see, we were targeted for economic exploitation, enslavement and destruction from day one by the Jewish scriptwriters, and you don't even need the redundant Protocols to prove it... it's all right there in the Bible itself.

Any White people that want to learn the game, and how to win at it, would do well to read Kiyosaki's books. The first two are titled:


Rich Dad, Poor Dad: What the Rich Teach Their Kids About Money--That the Poor and Middle Class Do Not!

Cashflow Quadrant: Rich Dad's Guide to Financial Freedom


Any other Northern goyim interested in escaping the clutches of the Jewish (and non-Jewish) economic predators would be well-served to consider reading them as well.

As I said, we were economically and religiously set up by those Jews from Day One.

It's time to turn the tables.
 
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Judaism is a result of their fierce nationalism, not its cause. Thought that should be pointed out. It's in their genetic make-up.


I don't see what those books would have to do with the Jewish Old Testament, seems like they should be in separate threads. Anyway, I can assure you no man involved in business would say the essence of capitalism is "who is indebted to whom." On the other hand, that sounds exactly like something an author would write when he caters to a liberal audience. Which shows what capitalism is really about if you want to survive in business: knowing what your customers want, and finding ways to give it to them.


Actually, its definition is really the free exchange of goods and services. That means you can produce and set your own prices, and people can choose if they want to buy or not. As opposed to the older system of certain professions and means of production being reserved for nobility. It's not an ideology, any more than math or biology are.

When people are criticizing "capitalism" as if it were an ideology, what they are really talking about is libertarianism. But capitalism sounds better, because the word makes your thoughts focus on the wealthiest, which most people hate, not being wealthy themselves. By contrast, "libertarianism" makes you focus on the population in general. All very subtle.

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Old July 27th, 2005 #3
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I don't see what those books would have to do with the Jewish Old Testament, seems like they should be in separate threads.
It's about learning to stop being economic slaves, as the Jews tried to program us to be through suicidal Christianity, and learning instead to be economic masters, as the Jews tried to teach their own people to be through Judaism.

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Anyway, I can assure you no man involved in business would say the essence of capitalism is "who is indebted to whom."
That is exactly what it is about... at least from the perspective from the Jew usurers who raped and canniballized Europe, and whose strategy was somehow captured perfectly in the Protocols of the Elders of Zion.

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On the other hand, that sounds exactly like something an author would write when he caters to a liberal audience. Which shows what capitalism is really about if you want to survive in business: knowing what your customers want, and finding ways to give it to them.
That is the productive half of capitalism, but the other half is understanding and profiting from the power of debt and compound interest, which the Jew Einstein claimed was "the most powerful force in the Universe".

Also, why do you think the Jew banker Rothschild said: "Give me control of a nations money, and I do not care who makes it's laws."?

Central, fractional-reserve banking, run by, and for the profit of, the Jews, has devoured one country after another, just as it is devouring America, which is 6-7 Trillion or more, in debt. All of that debt is interest-bearing, and it goes straight into the plutocrats pockets.

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Actually, its definition is really the free exchange of goods and services. That means you can produce and set your own prices, and people can choose if they want to buy or not. As opposed to the older system of certain professions and means of production being reserved for nobility. It's not an ideology, any more than math or biology are.
You just don't get it, do you? Are you totally ignorant of what Hitler said about the "Jewish financiers, inside and outside Europe"?

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When people are criticizing "capitalism" as if it were an ideology, what they are really talking about is libertarianism. But capitalism sounds better, because the word makes your thoughts focus on the wealthiest, which most people hate, not being wealthy themselves. By contrast, "libertarianism" makes you focus on the population in general. All very subtle.
What are you talking about? Capitalism is about the power of CAPITAL, which is measured and captured in money. The Jew Marx even said that money is the Jews true God. Money is Power. It's time we harnessed that power for ourselves, instead of continuing to be exploited by the Jews mastery of it.

The Jews knew the power of money and lending at interest... that is why they forbid utilizing it against their own people, but planned to use it against gentiles, to enslave us. They wrote to their own people:

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"The rich rule over the poor, and the borrower is servant to the lender."
- Proverbs 22:7
That is why they wanted us to borrow at interest from them (be sheep), so they could rule over us and shear and slaughter us for their own profit.

What's amazing is that many of the people on this forum seem to fully understand how the Jews spiritually enslaved us with their Jew-worshipping religion, yet seem totally blind to how the Jews built economic enslavement right into the structure of the two religions.

Is there anyone here who understands the economic moneylending enslavement perpetrated by the Jews through foisting suicidal ("blessed are the poor", "sell all you have and give it to the poor", "don't charge interest", "be sheep so we can shear you") Christ-insanity?

If not, then you do not realize just how greedy and clever the Jews really are.

This is the real golden rule: "He who has the gold, makes the rules."

The Jews tricked us into thinking the opposite so they could have the whole field of goldsmithing, banking, usury and moneylending all to themselves, so they could destroy our kingdoms and make us their slaves. This is not exactly rocket science. Just look at the historical record, and the Jews own words. The proof is plainly obvious.
 
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Ben Klassen, the founder of the COTC co-operated with William Pierce on a number of things. Klassen also knew that Christianity was created by Jews to enslave us goyim. Even though he did not realize the full depth of the economic trickery of the Jews as evidenced in the Bible, let's have a look at what he had to say on this topic.

http://www.creativityohio.com/ner/ner2-18.html

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Nature's Eternal Religion 2 - 18
The Salvation: False Ideas Disseminated by Jews



1. "The love of money is the root of all evil."

This oft quoted passage from the bible has been swallowed in total by practically everyone without ever stopping to examine its meaning. When it is examined for what it is really worth, it is found to be patently false. It is not money, nor the love of money, that is the root of all evil, but the root of all evil is the perfidious Jew.

Money is not only a medium of exchange; it is a very necessary and useful tool in the wheels of commerce in our modem civilization. If we did not have such a means of exchange, modern business, progress, and in fact, civilization as a whole, would be irreparably set back and tremendously handicapped. To the average bread-winner and to the average family, the acquiring and earning of money is the means of acquiring security, of obtaining all the necessities of life, such as food, shelter, clothing, entertainment, education, in fact everything required for a decent living. To impugn a man for pursuing a trade, a profession, or business that will earn him the money to take care of himself and his family is about as idiotic as to deny him the right to live.

No, indeed, there is nothing wrong with a man making as much money as he possibly can and providing for himself, for his family and his heirs, to the best of his ability. It is, in fact, those energetic and restless men of ability, (such as Henry Ford) who have created the most and have also given the greatest benefits to our race, to our nation and to civilization.

This whole idea is basically as wrong as so many other quotations in the New Testament which discourages a man from pursuing those natural instincts endowed to him by Nature for his own survival. Among these basic instincts are the will to survive; the basic urge to fight to preserve himself, his family and his property from any direction; the urge to build, to produce, to make, and to improve. The idea that money in itself is evil, or the love thereof, is along the same lines as some of the other bad advice that Christ gave when he said: "Think not of the morrow, look at the lily in the field, it toils not, yet Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these," etc., or "look at the birds, they toil not yet their heavenly Father takes care of them," etc.

This is all real bad advice. In the first place the birds work hard to do all those things that are required to feed themselves, to build their nests, to raise their young and to perpetuate their species. Those that do not do so, perish forthwith. The lily in the field (and other plants), in their own way, have to compete vigorously against other plants for water and nutrition. If they don't, they get crowded out and are replaced by more healthy and more vigorous plants. All species of Nature, whether they are plants, birds, animals or mankind itself, are in competition with other life. It is the strong, the brave, the vigorous, the courageous, the energetic that survive, while the weak fall by the wayside.

Again this debilitating advice was solely meant for the Gentiles. It was designed to set them back as much as possible; to clear the field for the treacherous Jew who will then have an easier time of it in stealing all the wealth of the world from the White Race and consolidating it in the hands of his own race.

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White Man's Bible - 40
The Brutal Truth About Inflation and Financial Enslavement. The Federal Reserve Board: The Most Gigantic Counterfeiting Ring in the World



How to Steal the World with Worthless Paper. If you were to rack your brains to find the most direct, fastest means of acquiring a monopoly of all the wealth in this world, by fair means or foul, undoubtedly the idea of setting up a gigantic money printing press would cross your mind. In short go into the counterfeiting business on a massive world-wide scale.

All Profit. What is quicker than having such huge printing presses spewing out millions of ten dollar notes, twenty dollar notes, fifties, hundreds, even thousand and ten thousand dollar notes? It is all profit, except for the ink and the paper, which, incidentally, costs less than half a cent per note, whether it is a one dollar bill or a thousand dollar bill.

Awesome Power. There is only one catch, supposedly. Counterfeiting is illegal, and governments crack down hard on violators and the penalties are harsh. In fact, the Founding Fathers of the United States, realizing the awesome power that is inherent in the issuance of money, clearly reserved these rights to Congress and Congress alone. Article 1, Section 8, Par. 5, of the Constitution of the United States, says, "Congress shall have the power to coin money, and regulate the value thereof".

Own the Presses, Buy the Government. But what if you and your gang were so highly successful that once you got going you not only owned the presses, but you had ample money to have a monopoly of the news media, and, subsequently, own the government as well? Having done so, your captive government could then make it legal for you to own and run the printing presses at will. They could then spew out the money for you by the carload. Not only that, but you could insure your great good fortune by having the printing presses run for you under the legal auspices of the established government itself and hand over all the printed money to you, free of charge, except again, for the insignificant cost of the paper and the ink. Not only would your captive government make it legal for you to be in the counterfeiting business in a huge way, but you could even have them give you a legal monopoly, thereby keeping all other competitors out of your racket. Wouldn't that be great?

Not Fantasy. An Accomplished Fact. A wild idea, you say? Perhaps. But not at all impossible. Not only is it possible, but it is an accomplished fact. It is, in fact, a harsh, cold reality, much to our detriment. Those crisp green bills you are now carrying in your wallet are the product of such a counterfeit ring. The international Jewish bankers accomplished that wild dream back in December, 1913, when they inveigled Congress to pass the Federal Reserve Act and, thereby created the Federal Reserve System, a private, (not governmental) corporation, for themselves.

Criminal Gang. This Jewish gang of criminals has rapidly been accumulating unto themselves, not only all the wealth of the United States, but of the world, ever since. Strange, you say? Not at all. When we study the history of these slippery con-artists it is not really so strange at all that they would try to do so. Being a rapacious, piratical tribe for the last several thousand years, and having manipulated the money of the world for the same period of time, it is not at all strange that the Jews would try to monopolize the creation and control of money, the most powerful tool in the world. It would be strange if they had not attempted to do so. They have been monopolizing money and the financial control of White Nations for milleniums. The thing that is strange is that the White goyim has not caught on and realized that the Jews have captured for themselves the money creating machinery of the United States, and also the rest of the world. They are now the unchallenged manipulators of the credit machinery, the banks, and the financial power of the world.

Private Corporation. There is not one American in ten thousand that doesn't believe and take for granted that the Federal Reserve System is a government agency. But nothing is further from the truth. The Federal Reserve banks are owned, lock, stock and barrel, by a criminal gang of international Jewish bankers, a gang that hasn't the slightest interest in serving the best interests of the American people. On the contrary, this scurvy gang of criminals is viciously intent on destroying the White Race that built America, despite the fact that the White Race is the only element that can keep America (and the world) from collapsing into chaos.

The Federal Reserve System, the Federal Reserve Banks, and its many branches and adjuncts, can be considered as a unit. For the sake of simplicity, we will simply refer to if as the Federal Reserve.

Government a puppet of the Fed. Not only does the U.S. government not own the Federal Reserve, it is, in fact, the other way around. The Federal Reserve owns the U.S. government and manipulates it like a puppet, solely for the interests of this avaricious international gang of Jewish jackals, who control the world, its money, and its economy.

Window Dressing. To most Americans, this comes as a major shock. Unbelievable, they say. Ask any banker as to who owns the Federal Reserve and they will lugubriously explain that the Federal Reserve stock is owned by the member banks, divided into twelve districts, that the President appoints members to the board of the governors of the Federal Reserve, etc.

All of this is partially true as far as it goes, but it is pure window-dressing. The few details about the Federal Reserve that are known are widely disseminated. Their sole objective is to act as a smoke screen for the real ownership, the real control. What little is known to the public (and very little is known about the Federal Reserve) is very selective non-information, fed to the local bankers in order to confuse them rather than inform. Even most local bank presidents are so ignorant about the real nature of the Federal Reserve that they believe it is a government owned agency rather than a privately owned corporation solely for profit.

The Brutal Truth. The real facts are somewhat different from what the average banker thinks. They are as follows:

1. The real ownership and control of the Federal Reserve is vested is the Class A stock. The names of those owning this stock are impossible to obtain. Ask your local bank president and he'll be much surprised to find out there is a Class A stock. He will not have the slightest inkling as to its ownership. He is not alone. Those names have never been divulged, not even to the President, or the Congress of the United States. Nor has any Congressional Committee ever had the nerve to honestly investigate the question of that ownership. This should give us some indication of the Federal Reserve's power, and raise a red alert.

2. Its inception, formation and dovetailing with other such institutions in foreign countries indicates that without a doubt it is owned by a powerful clique of international Jewish bankers, most of whom are not even citizens of this country.

3. To further indicate what absolute power this monster exercises over our government and economy, the Federal Reserve has pre-empted unto itself some unusual and highly illegal privileges. For instance, it pays no income tax as do other corporations, nor does it pay taxes of any other kind.

4. The Federal Reserve has never been publicly audited since its inception in 1913.

5. The Federal Reserve, by having the power to issue money, can "create" money as easily as any other counterfeit gang with a printing press, the only difference being that it can and does do so on a massive scale and has "legal" sanction to do so. The tremendous profits from this counterfeit operation all accrue to the international gang of Jewish bankers at the expense of the American working people.

6. Americans, a little over a generation ago, owned nearly half the old of the world. In 1934, Roosevelt, a chabez-goi, a willing stooge under the control of the Jews, made it illegal for American citizens to any longer own gold, although any foreign swindler, horse thief, or government, could, and still can, exchange their dollars for American gold. He made statutory criminals out of American citizens for owning gold, a privilege our government willingly grants to any foreign horse-thief.

Americans Stripped of their Gold. Thanks to such discriminatory policies, neither the American government nor the American citizen any longer own any significant quantities of gold. We have been fleeced clean. What was originally sold to the American people as a policy to back our paper money with gold, has ended up with America, its people and its government being robbed clean of its precious metal, although we are the most productive country on the face of the earth. The gold in Ft. Knox has rapidly been shipped to foreign shores, especially Switzerland, which the Jews have built up as a private "neutral" haven for themselves.

Even what little is now left in Ft. Knox is now heavily overpledgcd to foreigners and to the Federal Reserve.

Americans Fleeced Again. After having completely stripped clean the American people, in 1975, the Jew-controlled government of the United States again made it "legal" for the ordinary citizen to own gold. Americans could now buy back for $175.00 to $195.00 an ounce, what had been taken from their ancestors at $20.50 an ounce 40 years earlier. Those who fell for this trap and now bought were further fleeced by speculation and falling prices, all of which further enriched the Jewish speculators.

And Again. Such was the situation in 1976. Many White Americans lost money in the up and down manipulations of the Jewish gold speculators. Then towards 1979, as run-away inflation became more obvious and more rampant, confidence in the phoney paper dollar plummeted even further. People at home and abroad panicked and turned to gold, driving up the price to $800.00 an ounce. The Jews then pulled the rug out from under and it sank to under $500.00. Again, many White Americans lost, but the Jews, knowing in advance what they were manipulating, profited from their losses.

Planned that way. This is no accident. It was planned that way. The Jews have accomplished what they set out to do ? accumulate unto themselves, among other riches, all the gold on the face of the earth.

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Back to Beginnings. In the foregoing we have said that the Jews have a monopoly on printing counterfeit money and have also fleeced us of the huge gold reserves once owned by America, and Americans as individuals. To most gullible, uninformed Americans, this seems shocking and incredible. Yet, it is true. How did they accomplish such an astonishing feat, such blatant piracy?

Careful Planning. It is a long story. In this treatise we can only carve out the rough outlines of this sinister conspiracy that has had such a disastrous impact on the fortunes of the White Race. It is a story that must give credit to the astounding possibilities that can be accomplished by meticulous planning, patience, and tenacity. All this the Jews have put forth in ample measure.

Began with Jewish Goldsmiths. The beginnings go back to the early ancestors of the present day Jewish bankers, back as far as medieval Europe, and even further back to ancient Rome, when the Jewish "goldsmith bankers" already predominated in the money markets. They still do today. Gold has been a medium of exchange and used for coinage from ancient times. The Jews, especially, have been wildly fascinated by gold and have undoubtedly promoted the idea that it had mystical and intrinsic values far beyond its real value. In any event, in the old days, people who acquired gold took it to these certain (Jewish) goldsmiths for safekeeping. The goldsmith then gave the depositor a receipt or a "claim check" for the gold received. These "claim checks" could be used to reclaim the gold by anyone who had them in their possession, and not necessarily the same person who deposited the gold. Thereby these receipts were transferable, and in actual practice these receipts for gold began to circulate as paper money. Supposedly, the receipts were as good as gold since whoever had them in their possession could claim the gold from the goldsmiths at any time they wished.

Jews found a Gimmick. So far so good. The next step was that people learned they could carry on trade and commerce by passing these goldsmiths' receipts without ever bothering to withdraw the gold itself. Their "faith" in the value of the paper was based on the idea that it was, after all, redeemable in gold at any time.

The third step was a major discovery by the Jewish goldsmiths themselves of what has been the Key Principle (and a very profitable one) of banking ever since.

It is called "Fractional Reserves."

Loaned out gold that wasn't there. The Jewish goldsmiths made an amazing discovery. They found that with receipts circulating as money, few people came in to claim their gold. They conceived the idea that they could "loan out" gold, at interest ? gold that really did not belong to them, but was only in their "safekeeping."

"Money" out of thin air. With interest. What they did was write out receipts, or "claim checks," to borrowers, and charged interest on the gold they were loaning at the same time. These "claim checks," or receipts, created out of thin air, then, too, passed into circulation, the same as the others that had been given to actual depositors of gold. The Jew, in actuality, was writing out and passing claim checks on several times as much gold as he had available, and nobody, it seemed, was the wiser.

The Jew had struck a fabulous gold mine without having to so much as turn a shovel full of dirt!

"Fractional Reserve" the gimmick. The goldsmith was "lending out" gold that (a) was really not his to lend, and (b) several times more than he actually held in "safekeeping." But with the calls for the actual gold by the original depositors being so infrequent, he felt relatively safe that with his "fractional reserve" of gold that he could cover any day to day withdrawals. He could do so, provided, of course, there was not a "run" on the gold supply that was not his, but only given to him for "safekeeping." The goldsmith, in other words, was writing receipts for perhaps five or ten times as much gold as he had actually on deposit, betting on the theory that most of his depositors would not come to claim their gold at any given time. But the interest he was collecting on the. fictitious gold he had "loaned out," but did not really have, was very real indeed. For instance, if he charged 10% interest a year, and loaned out (via "receipts") ten times as much gold as he had for "safekeeping," he could acquire for himself, in only a year's time, as much gold as was entrusted to him for "safekeeping."

Acquired Monopoly. And thus, even in medieval Europe, these Jewish shylocks acquired a monopoly of gold and money in Venice, in Amsterdam, in London, Paris, Vienna and all other financial centers of Europe.

Jews have Clear Field. Throwing the money monopoly and control of gold into the hands of the Jewish Shylocks was strongly aided and abetted by the Christian church itself. During the Middle Ages (better known as the Dark Ages, when spookcraft ran rampant), the Catholic church forbade Christians in engaging in the loan business, calling it "usury." Since lending money was usurious, and usury was a sin, Christians were shut out, leaving the field wide open to the usurious and pecuniary Jew. Added to this was the stupid Christian doctrine that "money is the root of all evil."

Soon Monopolized all Wealth. One further European practice of the time helped drive the Jews into the money manipulation monopoly. Many countries, cities and principalities had laws prohibiting Jews from engaging in a number of trades and businesses, because they were aware of how, with his rapacious nature, the Jew soon monopolized and ruined those trades and businesses. But, foolishly, to the key, the nerve center of business ? money ? they left the gates wide open for the Jew to monopolize, and he had a field day. This he has to this very day, and today he not only has unchallenged control of the money markets of the world, but because of it, the Jew has a monopoly of every other meaningful and worthwhile business as well.

Coming and Going. Often these Jewish goldsmiths charged their clients both ways. They charged the depositors "fees" for "safekeeping" their gold, and they also collected interest from the borrowers of gold that did not belong to them, often, as we have stated before, lending out in the form of paper receipts five or ten times as much gold as was actually on deposit in their vaults.

Basis of all Modern Banking. From this "fractional reserve" trickery, discovered by these early Jewish goldsmiths, all modern banking principles have evolved, albeit with thousands of variations and refinements.

Fear a "Run." The modern banker still fears, as did the ancient goldsmith, a "run" on his bank, a time of panic, or rumor, regarding their integrity or stability that sometimes caused all depositors to rush in and withdraw their deposits at the same time. When this happened to the early goldsmith, and happen it did, the enraged depositors, finding their gold was not there, usually hanged such Jewish manipulators from the nearest tree. In old Amsterdam, a Jewish goldsmith proposed a law making it a hanging offense for anyone starting a "run" on a goldsmith. This immediately alerted his depositors and precipitated just such a "run" on him, the very thing he feared. Of course, this Jewish Shylock had far too many "receipts" out and could not pay. The depositors ended up hanging the goldsmith.

Jews became Fabulously Wealthy. Needless to say, those Jewish goldsmiths that were not hanged became fabulously wealthy by trafficking in gold that (a) was not theirs; and, (b) did not exist. As time went on, through, fees, interest and usury sometimes as high as 30% to 50%, they acquired most of the gold that had been earned and owned by their Gentile clients. They soon became the Shylocks and money lenders, not only to individuals in all thc civilized countries, but also to their governments. They have vigorously and aggressively maintained, enhanced and strengthened that position to this very day. They have now, as we said in the beginning, acquired absolute monopoly of all banking, issuance of money, financing, money lending, stock markets and the gold of the world. It is their most powerful weapon. With it they have acquired their remaining weapons with which to enslave the gullible goyim. Through monopoly of money, they easily acquired monopoly of the means of propaganda, and every other nerve center of power, including government itself.

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Acquired Legal Status by Treachery, Deceit, Betrayal. We now want to get back to the last part of our story ? namely how the Jews acquired "legal" control and monopoly of printing the money of the United States, by setting up the Federal Reserve System. We can see from the foregoing that the foundation for this financial power group was laid many centuries before that fateful day in December of 1913.

Treachery and Cunning. It is a fascinating story, permeated by treachery, deceit, bribery, trickery, and above all ? long, patient and intricate planning on the part of the Jews. It is also marked by stupidity and betrayal by members of our own race.

Rothschild owns Half the World. The International Jewish bankers, mainly based in New York, already had a tight monopoly, over the money supply of the United States long before 1913. The House of Rothschild, long ago had established their tentacles in the industrial countries of Europe, especially England, France, Germany, Italy and Austria during the 19th century. In each of these countries (as well as the smaller nations), they had organized a Central Bank System, such as the Reichsbank in Germany, or the Bank. of England in Britain. Basically, a Central Bank meant that it controlled the country's banks, using the full credit of the government to issue money. All the while it had the legal sanction of that same government whose people it was fleecing by having a monopoly on issuance, i.e., printing money.

Fiercely Destroy Anyone who Interferes. In the United States, prior to the passage of the Federal Reserve Act in 1913, whereas the Jewish bankers had had control of the nation's money almost from its inception, that control was still fluid amongst its own rivals and could be wrecked by an aroused people and/or Congress. In fact, during the Civil War, in a temporary lapse, Abraham Lincolm invoked the legitimate powers of Congress and issued 450 million dollars in printed currency, later called "Greenbacks" that did not derive through the hands of the International Jewish Bankers, and no interest was paid on this money. This single act so enraged the Jewish bankers, that they had Lincoln assassinated by one of their agents, namely Botha, alias John Wilkes Booth, a Jew.

Artificial Panics. In any event, after the Civil War, due to the manipulations of these Jewish bankers, who had artificially created the financial panics of 1873, 1893, and the severest of all, in 1907, there were serious rumblings from the people, and from some uncontrolled members of Congress, threatening that the Jewish power might be broken.

To ward off such a possibility, they decided to "legalize" their unconstitutional shenanigans by Federal Law ? all in the name of "reform against the New York Bankers." This was reverse psychology at its best.

Paul Warburg the Master Mind. To lay the ground work for such a law, a small clique of bankers headed by Paul M. Warburg, a Jew, recently arrived from Germany, met secretly on Jekyll Island at a plush hunting club in Georgia. They left in a private railroad car from Hoboken, New Jersey on November 22, 1910. So secretive was the meeting, no news about it leaked out until six years later.

With this small gang of New York bankers was one Senator, namely Senator Nelson Aldrich, himself entangled with the Jews in vast holdings and monopolies. Paul M. Warburg had come from Germany only 8 years earlier. He represented the House of M. M. Warburg Company, which controlled the Reichsbank in Germany, and in turn was a branch of the Jewish House of Rothschild.

Jewish Boast. It was Meyer Amschel, the patriarch of the House of Rothschild, who arrogantly stated, "Give me control over a nation's money and I care not who makes its laws." The Jewish House of Rothschild has made good that boast and now controls the economies (and the law-making) of the world.

At Jekyll Island. Under Paul Warburg's leadership, the small clique at Jekyll Island hammered out the main draft of a bill that would secure for themselves the legalized and privileged monopoly of banking, based on the same systems as the Central Banks of Europe. At the heart of it all was the unrestricted printing of money, and having sole monopoly.

Political Trickery. It was introduced into Congress as the Aldrich Plan by the senator whose name it bore under the auspices of the Republican Party. The bill was roundly attacked by opponents of Wall Street as being a bill favoring the New York bankers.

In the elections of 1912, the Republicans made the Aldrich Plan (all in the name of reform) a part of their official platform. An unknown University professor by the name of Woodrow Wilson, suddenly, out of nowhere, became the Democratic candidate for President. He and the Democratic party roundly attacked the Aldrich plan and offered in its place a piece of legislation that (supposedly) was "for the people" instead of the bankers. It was called the Federal Reserve Act. Although Congress and the people were too stupid to realize the situation, the "opposition" plan was in essence the same Aldrich Plan, as hammered out by Jew Paul Warburg and his henchmen, at the secret meeting on Jekyll Island. There was some honest opposition to the bill by such stalwarts as Congressman Charles A. Lindberg from Minnesota, and Senator LaFollette of Wisconsin, and others. Passage of either the Republican version or the Democratic version was precarious, despite loading the coin on both sides.

Bided their Time. But the treachery and cunning of the Jews is almost infinite. They bided their time. On December 23, 1913, when most of the congressmen and senators had already left the capital for the Christmas holidays, their select henchman stayed and rushed the bill through congress. Their paid stooge, Woodrow Wilson, signed the bill immediately. The Jews had their Central Bank, European style.

Disaster for American People. For the American people, who understand little of all the confusion, it was a day of infamy, a disaster of much greater magnitude than a dozen Pearl Harbors.

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Deficit Spending. Stripped of all window dressing, how does the Federal Reserve work? Basically, it works on deficit spending and the same principles of "fractional reserves" as practised by their Jewish goldsmith ancestors.

The Jews are constantly and deliberately pushing the Federal government deeper and deeper into debt, because every billion dollars more debt means a billion dollars into their own coffers, plus interest.

Mechanics of Manipulation. Supposing the Federal government in Washington needs another ten billion dollars. Where do they get it? They go to the Federal Reserve, a private criminal gang of international Jewish bankers. The Federal Reserve makes the loan.

Where does the Federal Reserve get all this money?

Simply Prints it for Nothing. In order to make the loan, the Federal Reserve first asks the U.S. Bureau of Printing and Engraving to print up a new batch of 10 billion in dollar bills of various denomination, tens, twenties, hundreds, etc. These then are turned over to the Federal Reserve Bank free of charge, except for the cost of the paper and ink for printing them, which is insignificant. The United States government then prints up ten billion dollars in U.S. government bonds and turns these over to the Federal Reserve also as "collateral." These U.S. Government bonds are an I.O.U. and have to be repaid, with interest. The Federal Reserve then issues the U.S. Treasury department credit to the amount of ten billion dollars on which it can write checks.


People in Debt with Interest for Worthless Paper.

A cursory inspection of this transaction reveals:

1. The Federal Reserve has contributed nothing but paper and ink, a minimal item.

2. Riding on the credit and prestige of the United States government, it has "issued" (created out of nothing) ten billion dollars worth of new money.

3. The government gets to spend this money, but has to pay it back to the Federal Reserve with interest.

4. The Federal Reserve is immediately ten billion dollars richer ? plus the eternal interest it will accrue from this account receivable.

5. The United States government and people are ten billion dollars deeper in debt to the Federal Reserve and have to pay it back with interest.

6. If congress did its duty and invoked its constitutional right and obligation, it could and should have printed the same ten billion in dollar bills on its own for the cost of the paper and ink, as did Abraham Lincoln, without owing the Jewish bankers a cent. This is what the Constitution of the United States authorizes it to do and obligates it to do.

Hitler defied Jewish Bankers. As far as I know, in modern times, outside of the $450 million in "greenbacks" that Abraham Lincoln had printed, the only country that defied the Jews and printed its own money was Adolf Hitler's Germany between 1933 and 1945. Before Hitler, the Rothschild owned Reichsbank had Germany so tied up, bankrupted and in debt, that the German people were virtual slaves to their Jewish masters. Every business, every industry, every farm, every cow, was either owned by the Jews or hopelessly pledged to them. Millions were unemployed and starving. The country, totally ravished by the Jews, was in worst possible straits, financially, morally, and practically every other way anyone could possibly imagine.

Germany Printed Its Own Money. As soon as Hitler came to power, he wrested the money printing privileges out of the hands of the Jews. Instead, it was printed by the legal authority of the German government itself, backed by the productive strength of the nation. There was no interest paid on it and the government was not in debt to any Jews or anybody else for each and every Mark that was printed.

Miracle Recovery. The immediate financial and industrial recovery in Germany that followed was a marvel to behold. While much richer countries, like the United States, were wallowing in depression, unemployment and despair, the Germans were busily building new factories, super highways, houses, cars, ships, etc. Unemployment disappeared in short order. Everyone was working and building. By breaking the Jewish financial stranglehold over the German people, the Germans, during Hitler's short 6 year period of peace, were more productive and prosperous than they had ever been in their previous history.

Fabulous Wealth could he Ours. The United States, being a much richer country, due to its land and resources, could be fabulously wealthy if and when we break the Jewish stranglehold here. This we must do and we will do.

Jews pushed us into World War I. Although the Federal Reserve Act, passed in 1913 violated the Constitution (and still does), which says under Article I, Section 8, Congress alone "has the power to coin money, (and) regulate the value thereof" the Jews now "legally" had the power to print all the money they wanted, to control, fleece and manipulate the finances of the wealthiest country in the world. They have done so with a vengeance. They were now ready to use those powers. Within less than a year after passage of the Federal Reserve Act, the Jews had World War I in full swing. By 1917, they had the United States inveigled in it, although we had not even the slightest national interest in entering that war.

Financed both Sides. But the Jews did. In Germany, the Jewish outfit of M.M. Warburg Co., was helping the Kaiser "finance" the war. In the United States, Paul Warburg of Kuhn, Loeb and Co. and their now functioning Federal Reserve System was "selling" war bonds to the American government by the billions to finance the "American" war effort. Both Central Banks, in Germany and the United States, were owned and controlled by the same Jewish House of Rothschild. While the cream of young manhood of the White Race was dying in the stinking trenches and the mud of the battlefields, the Jewish printing presses on both sides of the Atlantic were rolling out money and propaganda. The White nations of the world were killing the best of their manhood, sinking deeper and deeper into debt, and the Jews were getting richer and fatter.

Terrible Power. The Federal Reserve System is, of course, an unmitigated evil, the poisonous breath of a monster that is choking the American White people to death. With unlimited control of the money and finances of the world, the Jews can deliberately instigate, and manipulate wars, depressions, debts and taxes at will. Through the power of money, they have accrued unto themselves the television networks, the news media, the stock exchanges, the banks, the industries, and, in fact, the government itself. The Jewish controlled government is now slowly enslaving the White Race here and abroad in a deliberate program of destruction.

Racial Showdown. What can we do about it? It is pointless to wage single wars against the Federal Reserve or the United Nations, or the many other tools the Jews now control in order to more rapidly destroy us. We are not going to win scattered battles. We can only win a total war in which it is a united, organized war, a total war ? the White Race against the Jews and the mud races. Our best and only program is to organize racially around the creed of THE Church of Creativity. We must totally drive the Jews from power and totally grasp into our own hands our own future and destiny. Only an organized, united White Race can do that, and do it we will.

Racial Religion A Must. Once this book, the White Man's Bible, is the universal property of the majority of the White People of the United States, we are well on the way to having broken the terrible power of the parasitical Jews and the diabolic Federal Reserve.
 
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Check it out for yourself. Should you doubt the accuracy and veracity of my story about the Federal Reserve rip-off, be my guest and check it out for yourself. There are particularly a few vital questions to which you must get straight answers:

First, and the most vital: To whom does the benefit accrue each time a new dollar bill is printed? Certainly not the public, and certainly not the U.S. Government. If the government got the benefit of all the printing press money, it would not be 800 billion dollars in debt and have to tax the people another 700 billion a year to try to shore up its deficit budget. The benefit clearly accrues to the international gang of Jewish counterfeiters who own the Federal Reserve.

Second: Who owns the Class "A" stock in the Federal Reserve? Don't let them tell you there isn't any.

Thirdly: Why does the Federal Reserve pay no taxes, when every other private corporation and individual does?

Fourthly: Why has the Federal Reserve never been audited?

There are many more questions we should ask, but the above will suffice.

In order to get answers you may want to write to your Congressmen, or perhaps half a dozen Congressmen and Senators, and see what a disparity of answers they come up with. Don't expect to get honest answers from them. Nor can you expect your banker, nor the news media to come up with any straight answers. The bankers, because they don't really know, and the news media, for the same reason, but even if they knew, they would lie to you, because they are owned by, and are part and parcel of, the same International Jewish Conspiracy.

Red Flag. The very fact that it is so difficult to get straight answers to the above vital questions should Alert Red Flags in your mind about the Sinister Nature of the conspiracy that devours all.


Conclusion.

What does all this mean to you, the average hard working White taxpayer? What does it mean to you, the average White American who has to work and scrimp and save to make ends meet and earn a decent living for himself and his family, yet has to work into the middle of June to assuage the voracious Jewish tax collector?

It means plenty to you. The impact on the working White middle-class American is devastating. It practically makes him a galley slave in the so-called Land of the Free, the America that the White Man built from a wilderness.

So you had better listen and listen real well. The nefarious swindle known as the Federal Reserve means the following to you.

1. It means you have to earn every dollar you work for at least five times over.

(a) You first earn the dollar that supposedly you get in your paycheck or in your business.

(b) You have to pay for it again by borrowing it from the Federal Reserve swindlers.

(c) You have to pay interest on that dollar forever and a day to the Federal Reserve. This may wind up paying two dollars in interest for every dollar received (borrowed).

(d). You have to pay more than half of what you earn back in a multitude of taxes, all of which finally ends up in the hands of the same Jewish swindlers whose counterfeit dollars you had to beg for in the first place.

2. It means also, since these treacherous Jews have the fraudulent means of printing themselves unlimited wealth, that they can buy up the total means of propaganda ? newspapers, magazines, publishing houses, book distribution, radio networks, T.V. networks, etc. This they have done a long time ago and they are in total control. They have ruthlessly used this to control the minds and the thinking of the people of the world, including the confused and confounded thinking of the White Race.

3. By means of thought control and mind manipulation they also control the governments of the world, including our own in the United States of America.

4. By means of their tremendous financial power they can also buy, sell and manipulate those government officials that are not persuaded. In short they can and do buy, sell, own and control our government.

5. Since the program of the Jews is the total mongrelization and destruction of the White Race (which they are accomplishing at an accelerating pace), you, my dear White Racial Comrade, are the target of their destruction. Whether you like it or not, you are in the frying pan.

6. Because of their insatiable avarice and greed, the Jews, by means of confiscatory taxation, are looting the White Man of even that little which he has left after years of hard work and scrimping and saving.

7. The small sum total of the White Man's savings is further decimated by spiraling inflation. And what causes inflation? The unlimited printing of counterfeit paper dollars by the corrupt and sinister Jew, as manifested by the Federal Reserve.

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Think it Through. So think about it, White Man. You have a lot at stake as to whether or not you continue to allow the venal and perfidious Jew to continue his fraudulent racket of printing worthless paper dollars and passing them off to you as being "legal tender."

You had better wake up and do something and do it now. "But," you ask, "What can I do?"

* * * * *

What can you do, indeed? A good question and we will answer it only briefly here, but we will show the way.

The White Man in small numbers has been aware of the sinister Jewish menace for a long, long time. The persistent mistake he has made in his feeble efforts to fight this cancer has been to fight the symptoms of that cancer, not the cause. This we have shown in the chapter of the relentless warfare between the Jews and the Gentiles.

The Federal Reserve is one of those symptoms, albeit a mighty powerful symptom. The real underlying cause is the Jewish network, the Jewish race itself. (Other symptoms of Jewish malignancy are: the United Nations; the corrupt, race mixing, Supreme Court; inflation; crime; integration; confiscatory taxation and a host of other Jew-concocted problems bedeviling the White Man.)

We Have The Power. THE Church of Creativity has the creed and the program to destroy this malignant evil and wipe it from the face of the earth. We cannot destroy the powerful Jewish plague by chopping at its tentacles. Only by marshalling and organizing the awesome might of the total White Race can we ever hope to get the parasitic Jew off our back. Aroused, informed and organized the White Race is ten times as powerful as all the Jews and mud races combined. Our program gets down to the basics of the Laws of Nature, the survival of our own kind, the great White Race. We go after the cause, not the symptoms.

In this, our White Man's Bible, and in NATURE'S ETERNAL RELIGION, we have the total program, the final solution, the ultimate creed.

Organize and Distribute. Need we say more? If you want to join the White Man's fight for survival, expansion and advancement of our own race, then avail yourself of a copy today.

After you have read our Bible, thoroughly digested and studied it, then you are ready to become a member of the finest religious organization on the face of the earth, the Church of Creativity. You are then ready to become a CREATOR ? the cream of the elite, and take up the fight against the despicable Jew.
White Man's Bible - 40
The Brutal Truth About Inflation and Financial Enslavement. The Federal Reserve Board: The Most Gigantic Counterfeiting Ring in the World


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Welcome aboard, White Nobility. jews further this bilking by banking through control of the terms. If the average Joe understood fractional reserve banking, they'd riot."You mean our government is passing out money it bought at interest from a private company?! How are we ever supposed to pay it back?"
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Welcome aboard, White Nobility. jews further this bilking by banking through control of the terms. If the average Joe understood fractional reserve banking, they'd riot."You mean our government is passing out money it bought at interest from a private company?! How are we ever supposed to pay it back?"
A private company set up by Jews, for their own profit.

Did you ever read "The Creature From Jekyll Island"?

It documents the creation of the Federal Reserve, and almost all the names involved in the founding are Jewish. Other books document this as well.
 
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It's about learning to stop being economic slaves, as the Jews tried to program us to be through suicidal Christianity, and learning instead to be economic masters, as the Jews tried to teach their own people to be through Judaism.
I don't think they tried to program us through Christianity. They have always hated Christianity and in fact tried to stop its spread in the Roman Empire. In the Middle Ages they were often instructed by their rabbis to spit when they passed a church, masking it as a cough if needed. That doesn't mean that it has been beneficial to us, of course.


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That is the productive half of capitalism, but the other half is understanding and profiting from the power of debt and compound interest, which the Jew Einstein claimed was "the most powerful force in the Universe".
How would it be the other "half"? Why not the other forty percent, or the other sixty percent, or the other 43.5 percent?

Again: capitalism is defined as the free exchange of goods and services. This includes free production -- well, some areas will be restricted off course, but they will be restricted the same way for all, as opposed to when only the local noble could own the local mill -- and free price-setting. That's it. Attach anything else to it, and you are engaging in Marx's ongoing propaganda drive.

If you make a quote by Einstein, I would like to see the source. I would expect Einstein to say the Four Laws of Thermodynamics or whatever they're called are the most powerful forces in the universe -- since they are.

Anyway, I don't care much what he said about the economy, he was not an economist, so he knew as little about economics as he did about brain surgery or agriculture.


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Also, why do you think the Jew banker Rothschild said: "Give me control of a nations money, and I do not care who makes it's laws."?
Interesting quote. Yet your claim was that debt would be "one half" of capitalism, and this quote has nothing to do with that claim, even if they are both about the economy.

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Central, fractional-reserve banking, run by, and for the profit of, the Jews, has devoured one country after another, just as it is devouring America, which is 6-7 Trillion or more, in debt. All of that debt is interest-bearing, and it goes straight into the plutocrats pockets.
No, most of U.S. debt is owned by China and Japan.


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You just don't get it, do you? Are you totally ignorant of what Hitler said about the "Jewish financiers, inside and outside Europe"?
No need to get upset, we're having a civil discussion and as we are adults we can keep it that way. Otherwise nothing good will come of it.

If Hitler said something, it doesn't necessarily have to be true. Example: he said contradictory things about Christianity. He said that it was good for Europe, and he said that it was a plague on Europe. Both can't be true. No, though I admire Hitler and other men in the Reich, I don't worship them. I believe things when I hear the arguments for them only.

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It's time we harnessed that power for ourselves, instead of continuing to be exploited by the Jews mastery of it.
Absolutely, White Nationalist organizations need money, if that is what you mean. As for the Jews being money's master, that is not true. All Whites put together own more money than all Jews put together. I think that even all Chinese put together own more than the Jews. So they are not money's "master," and I am hard-pressed to see how anyone could be the "master" of money.


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The Jews knew the power of money and lending at interest...
As do Whites, Chinese, Japanese, Turks, Indians, and pretty much everybody else.

To lend at interest is a great invention, perfected by the system developed by the Renaissance Italians. It makes it possible to loan money, which everybody needs to do at one point or another. Without that system investment in the Renaissance would have been much, much lower, and therefore production and invention and the arts would have been at a much lower level.

No, interest rates were not invented just so a few Jews can make money. Interest rates were invented because it's a good invention. Consider that it was invented by the Japanese, Chinese etc independently. If something is invented all over the world, like marriage or hierarchy or interest rates (when a country is advanced enough), then you can be sure there's a good reason for it.

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that is why they forbid utilizing it against their own people
Wrong, Jews lend money to other Jews against interest all the time. Don't you think Jews loan money from banks too? Do you think they get to do that for free?


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What's amazing is that many of the people on this forum seem to fully understand how the Jews spiritually enslaved us with their Jew-worshipping religion, yet seem totally blind to how the Jews built economic enslavement right into the structure of the two religions.
I have said this to some other people, and I will say it to you too: be very humble when you approach the subject of economics. Realize that if you haven't studied it, you know almost nothing about it. I am not saying that to insult you, it is a fact. I know nothing about surgery or engineering, and will therefore be humble when someone more knowledgeable than I talk about it. If the things they say disappoint my hopes, I will accept that, instead of calling them liars.

Now, you wonder why we don't speak more of Jewish involvement in banking. Dr. Pierce approached this subject in an ADV broadcast. He said many people email him and ask him to talk about the Fed, and well, it may be possible the Fed's monopoly on producing money is bad for us, but he didn't know enough to speak about that. He said he would stick to talking about the things he did know something about, like Jewish involvement in Hollywood, communism, lobby groups etc.

We should follow his example. You talk a lot about banks and the Jews in them, but can you provide a map over the financial transactions in the world, the Jews and Gentiles who own what banks and how much money they handle, and when that would hurt us and when it wouldn't hurt us?

I don't think you can, and that is no insult either. None of us here can, so that's why we don't approach the subject. We have plenty of other stuff on our list of grievances. And talking about something you don't know the whole truth about will inevitably lead to paranoid assumptions waaay out there. Do you see my point?


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Is there anyone here who understands the economic moneylending enslavement perpetrated by the Jews through foisting suicidal ("blessed are the poor", "sell all you have and give it to the poor", "don't charge interest", "be sheep so we can shear you") Christ-insanity?
I agree with you here, these slave-morality teachings of Christianity are no good. But it wasn't Jews who were behind Christianity, just a few stupid Jews running around preaching to the masses. And Whites in the Roman Empire carried on the message long after those first founders were gone.


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This is the real golden rule: "He who has the gold, makes the rules."
Absolutely, money and possessions enable you to do more things than you otherwise would be able to. Though I don't think of it as a golden rule, really. My golden rule is "All for the White race."

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Let me lay this out very simply:

Here we have two religions (Judaism and Christianity), both founded, crafted and promoted by Jews.

In their scriptures, the Jews admit that "The rich rule over the poor, and the borrower is servant to the lender". (Prov. 22:7)

Now, in the religion they created for themselves, the Jews taught their own people not to lend to each other at interest, but rather to lend to us goyim at interest.

But in the religion they created for us, they taught us not to lend to anyone at interest, nor to even expect the return of what we lend.

In addition, they also taught us the "virtues" of poverty, the unlikelihood of the rich getting into "heaven", and suggested we "sell all we have and give it to the poor."

The predictable end result of such a combination would be the gradual loss of economic power of gentiles, and the gradual accumulation of wealth into the hands of moneylending Jews. When we look at the historical record, we see that that is exactly what happened in Europe.

You see, just as "loving your enemies" is suicidal advice promoted to you by your enemies... not lending at interest, and instead giving your stuff away or lending to others and expecting nothing in return, is suicidal advice from those who plan to lend to you at interest, and thereby financially enslave you.

It's all just common sense once you look past the superstitious hocus pocus.

However, that hocus pocus, enforced by the Roman Catholic Church (which predictably prevented Christians from moneylending, leaving the field wide open to the Jews), is what allowed the Jews to monopolize goldsmithing and moneylending, giving rise to the enormous Jewish economic power in Europe.
 
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This should be in the Religion forum. Maybe Antiochus could move it there.



Let us remember that writing down rules is a pretty late invention in Jewish history. And they were just the same before that. Let us also remember that Judaism is a religion that mirrors their behavior and is meant to justify it. The religion does not create their behavior. They are nationalists, fiercely hostile against other races, because it is in their genes. Such a strong behavior for such a long time cannot be caused by outside suggestions alone, it has to be internal, biological.

So it's not a conspiracy, it's genetics.


About Christianity, I believe, like you do, that the slave morality we see in the New Testament is bad for Whites. The NT quotes you show, for example -- I have used them myself, some of them. But it is not a Jewish plan. The Jews that were Christians were actively persecuted by the Jewish rabbis. They were not agents trained and unleashed on Whites, they were heretics. Their main reason for travelling around the Mediterranean was probably the simple fact that if they had stayed in Judea, they might have been killed.


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However, that hocus pocus, enforced by the Roman Catholic Church (which coincidentally prevented Christians from moneylending, leaving the field wide open to the Jews), is what allowed the Jews to monopolize goldsmithing and moneylending, giving rise to the enormous Jewish economic power in Europe.
Yes, it is a coincidence. The Catholic Church was not run by Jews, and in fact detested them, though it did a lousy job at keeping them out from Europe. Had they done more than just lock up Jews in ghettos and think that would be enough, we might not have been in the mess we're in today. But they were never Jew agents. They considered Jews to have broken the covenant with God, something like that.
 
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Any White people that want to learn the game, and how to win at it, would do well to read Kiyosaki's books.
Do not look to Kiyosaki for advice on how to get rich. For an excellent debunking, see here:

http://www.johntreed.com/Kiyosaki.html
 
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This should be in the Religion forum. Maybe Antiochus could move it there.
Why did you wait till now to petition for the thread to be moved, instead of at the beginning?

This thread has nothing to do with religion, which has to do with God or gods, but instead has everything to do with Jewish economic conspiracies as proven by their own words in the Bible.

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Let us remember that writing down rules is a pretty late invention in Jewish history. And they were just the same before that. Let us also remember that Judaism is a religion that mirrors their behavior and is meant to justify it. The religion does not create their behavior. They are nationalists, fiercely hostile against other races, because it is in their genes. Such a strong behavior for such a long time cannot be caused by outside suggestions alone, it has to be internal, biological.
Are you trying to say that lending money at interest is a result of genetics?

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So it's not a conspiracy, it's genetics.
Well, it's all there, written in black and white in the Bible, in the Jews own words.

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About Christianity, I believe, like you do, that the slave morality we see in the New Testament is bad for Whites.
Correct, but no one has ever pointed this economic slave angle before... at least not to my knowledge.

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The NT quotes you show, for example -- I have used them myself, some of them. But it is not a Jewish plan.
Of course it's a plan. It's spelled right out in black in white:

"You will lend to many nations, but you will not borrow, and so you will reign over many nations, but no nation will reign over you."

And that is exactly what they have done.

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The Jews that were Christians were actively persecuted by the Jewish rabbis.
Or so they say.

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They were not agents trained and unleashed on Whites, they were heretics.
Again, that is their claim.

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Their main reason for travelling around the Mediterranean was probably the simple fact that if they had stayed in Judea, they might have been killed.
Or that Rome was their enemy, and they wanted to destroy it and lay down the seeds for economic and psychological subjugation of the gentiles.

Remember, Saul of Tarsus ("Saint Paul") was a very patriotic Jew, and the foremost persecutor of the Christians before he had his sudden and suspicious "conversion".

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Yes, it is a coincidence.
A coincidence that just happened to lay the groundwork for the Jewish economic and spiritual subjugation of Europe, which the Jewish prophets commanded them to do.

That's not a coincidence, it was a plan well executed.

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The Catholic Church was not run by Jews, and in fact detested them,
The Roman Catholic Church was founded by Jews, specifically Paul and Peter, both Jews, as were most of the early Christians.

The Basilica at the Vatican is built right on top of the tomb of the Jew Peter.

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though it did a lousy job at keeping them out from Europe. Had they done more than just lock up Jews in ghettos and think that would be enough, we might not have been in the mess we're in today. But they were never Jew agents. They considered Jews to have broken the covenant with God, something like that.
They were agents of the Jews without even knowing it. The church was following the scriptures, which were written by the Jews, and so in that respect, they were Jewish agents, even while believing they weren't.

The record is clear... the Jews had a plan to conquer and destroy all nations using moneylending. They created a religion for us that forbid us from moneylending and taught us to value being poor, and then they swept into Europe and monopolized moneylending, building huge fortunes and using their power and influence to then destroy our kings and nations, which is exactly what their Jew bible told them to do.

What is there about this that you don't understand?

It's all written right there in black and white in the bible and in the historical record.
 
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Do not look to Kiyosaki for advice on how to get rich. For an excellent debunking, see here:

http://www.johntreed.com/Kiyosaki.html
I read that debunking and it's incorrect.

Just read Kiyosaki's books for yourself and make up your own mind.

But, let's deal with Kiyosaki and his ideas later.

It's much more important that people understand exactly what happened to our people and nations, before we move on to figuring out exactly how to fix the mess we are in.
 
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Let's look at these two sentences first:

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Why did you wait till now to petition for the thread to be moved, instead of at the beginning?
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What is there about this that you don't understand?
Again I am going to ask you to keep that anger against the unenlightened bottled up. Let's keep it civil, yes?

Now, why should it be in the religion forum, you ask. Well, look at the name of the thread for one thing.


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Are you trying to say that lending money at interest is a result of genetics?
I believe I showed very clearly what I was saying. I will write it again: their nationalism and fierce hostility toward other races is genetic, not a result of them reading a religious book. The scripture is simply mirroring and justifying their nature.

What exactly is there in lending money that you think is evil? If I lend you money for a long period of time, I want something back for it, I'm not gonna do it for nothing. If I did, I couldn't make a living lending money, and then you'd have no money to borrow. What is evil in that?

Now, usury, that's a nasty business. Engaging is usury should be condemned, like many other things. The Jews have engaged in usury, but that's not responsible for even one percent of the mess we're in today. It is their domination of the media and Hollywood that is really hurting us.


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Correct, but no one has ever pointed this economic slave angle before... at least not to my knowledge.
Because there is no slave angle, if you're talking about lending money. That people borrow money against interest is not responsible for our present situation. And I doubt Jews have the same control of the large banks of the world as they have of the media; they did have a lot of influence way back, but how much today? Who knows.

Have you done any research on this? You're basically saying Jews are controlling us through banks -- what large banks are controlled by Jews and how? How large a percentage of banks in the West do they control? And how exactly are we hurt by it?

I can tell you haven't done research, as you believed public debt to be owned by Jews, when in fact is is owned mostly by the Japanese and Chinese.

The document Who Rules America? shows Jewish influence in Hollywood and the media very clearly. That's why I believe in what Pierce said about the media. I will demand the same level of scientific studies for anything else I am asked to believe in, and I think we all should.


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Of course it's a plan. It's spelled right out in black in white:

"You will lend to many nations, but you will not borrow, and so you will reign over many nations, but no nation will reign over you."

And that is exactly what they have done.
Do you believe in conspiracies spanning more than two thousand years?

It is their natural behavior to close the ranks against Gentiles. Conspiracy has nothing to do with it. That passage in their scripture is only mirroring their behavior.



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Or that Rome was their enemy, and they wanted to destroy it and lay down the seeds for economic and psychological subjugation of the gentiles.
So secretly, Saul & co were agents of Jewry. You have proof, of course? No? Without proof, I think you should refrain from making any statements about this.


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A coincidence that just happened to lay the groundwork for the Jewish economic and spiritual subjugation of Europe, which the Jewish prophets commanded them to do.
It didn't lay the groundwork. If you read Cicero, you see that the Jews were powerful in Rome even before Christianity. They got money from slavery and a number of other professions.


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The Roman Catholic Church was founded by Jews, specifically Paul and Peter, both Jews, as were most of the early Christians.
They like to say that, but you know that nothing like the Cath Church existed when Peter and Paul lived, or even on the days they died. The Cath Church came looong after that, after factional infighting between different groups of Christians. To say that the faction that eventually won could trace its roots all the way back to Paul, as if he would have wanted it to win, that was just propaganda.


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The Basilica at the Vatican is built right on top of the tomb of the Jew Peter.
You're making a hen of a feather here. Just like those who dig up some quote by some imam to support their neocon idea that the hundreds of millions of Muslims are conspiring to take over the world.

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They were agents of the Jews without even knowing it. The church was following the scriptures, which were written by the Jews, and so in that respect, they were Jewish agents, even while believing they weren't.
So why do you bring up Paul and Peter? This indicates that you are aware there were other factors that shaped the Church, not that it would be (supposedly) founded by Paul.

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The record is clear... the Jews had a plan to conquer and destroy all nations using moneylending.
No, you have just shown some quotes from their scripture. That shows they are bastards, which we already knew, but it shows no millennia-old conspiracy. They don't read scripture and then organize to carry it out hand in hand, that's not how it works. And the suggestion that Christianity would be part of their plan you have provided no evidence of whatsoever. You just say "Paul was hastily converted. Veeeery suspicious." That's not evidence.

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DC,

I have been aggravated with you from the beginning of this thread, because you have been relying on dishonest debate tactics, and playing games by using red herrings. You have also been demanding documentation for every little point that comes up, in order to detract from the main point, which is that the Jews created two vastly different religions, one for their people, and one for ours.

The religion they created for their people gave predatory and empowering economic advice, while the religion they created for our people gave suicidal and disempowering economic advice. In the following centuries the Jews gained massive economic power in Europe by doing exactly what their Old Testament commanded them to do, which is to lend to goyim nations at interest, and destroy their Kingdoms. This is all a matter of historical record continuing up to the present day. If you don't, or can't, or won't see the obvious, I honestly don't care.

From your very first post, you did not address one single point made, or one biblical reference, but instead resorted to vague generalizations about "libertarianism", even giving me the standard definition of "capitalism", while ignoring the essential fact that capitalism is based on capital, which in it's purest form is money. Then you began to try to play games with percentages after I threw out a generalized adjective like "half" merely to represent one side of the two different aspects of capitalism as I see them.

In short, I have dealt with pseudo-intellectual sophist fuckheads like you for many years, often while studying economics and finance at University, and I have no desire to do it any longer. Please do not address me again.
 
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RE: White Nobility

Welcome to VNN

Excellent thread. The info and connections that you've presented, I will use to bolster my jew usury conspiracy arguments. Thank you.

Just one point. I think that the author of the Rich Dad, Poor Dad series was half chink, if I'm not mistaken. Nevertheless the material is sound.
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I have been aggravated with you from the beginning of this thread, because you have been relying on dishonest debate tactics, and playing games by using red herrings.
All in your mind. There's a certain type of visitor who signs up, posts his pet theories and is vehemently aggressive about them because they are The Truth in his mind, then burns out and disappears after only a short time. I hope you are not that kind of visitor.

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You have also been demanding documentation for every little point that comes up, in order to detract from the main point, which is that the Jews created two vastly different religions, one for their people, and one for ours.
Why yes, I do expect you to put up some evidence of your ENORMOUS conspiracy theory, if you expect to be believed. "Detract" from the main point? To the contrary, I am looking straight at that main point, waiting for you to put up some proof that, for example, Paul was a secret agent of the rabbis as you say. Of course you don't have any proof of that, and that's why you get angry now. You can't fathom why not everybody sees The Truth that is so clear to you that you don't even need evidence.

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In the following centuries the Jews gained massive economic power in Europe by doing exactly what their Old Testament commanded them to do, which is lend to goyim nations at interest, and destroy their Kingdoms.
Again: their religion is a mirror of the instinct imprinted in their genes, it is not the source of that instinct. You are putting the cart before the horse.

I will prove it to you: there was a scientific study where infants of different races were exposed to adults of other races. The infants that reacted the least to the other races were the White infants. The infants that reacted the most, were the Jewish infants -- they freaked out.

So you see, it is in their genes to be hostile toward Gentiles. That's why they design their religion to justify that hostility. Most of our behavior is the result of our behavior genes, there is ample scientific evidence of that nowadays. Obviously nationalism is a genetic thing.


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From your very first post, you did not address one single point made, or one biblical reference,
Untrue, I have addressed many, I believe most of your points. For example, I addressed your assertion that "the other half of capitalism is" the power of debt, or something like that. I asked you to clarify why it would be half of capitalism. You couldn't.

I addressed your point about Jewish bankers; I asked you to show who the Jewish bankers in our age are, and what banks they control. You couldn't.

(Note: I do not contest the assumption that there are Jewish bankers. I know there are, I have seen the names of at least a few. But if you claim they have enormous power, then I want to see much more names and figures to support that theory.)

I addressed your point about Peter and Paul secretly being the agents of the rabbis, and asked you to show proof of that. Again, you couldn't.

(Note: I do not disagree with you when you say Christianity has been bad for us. I disagree only when you say it was a secret Jewish plan to make it so. You see how close our opinions are, and that it is silly of you to declare me an enemy? You will find there are no two posters at VNNF who have the exact same opinions.)

Do you agree now that your statement above, that I haven't addressed a single point of yours, is incorrect?


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while ignoring the essential fact that capitalism is based on capital, which in it's purest form is money.
To disagree with what you say is not the same as ignoring what you say. Don't you agree?


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Then you began to try to play games with percentages after I threw out a generalized adjective like "half" merely to represent one side of the two different aspects of capitalism as I see them.
So you admit now that you don't have any research or anything else to back up that assertion. Good.

Here at VNNF you cannot just throw out your pet theories and expect people to believe them without scrutinizing them. You will have to be prepared to back up your points. We are a skeptic lot, that is why we are here.


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In short, I have dealt with pseudo-intellectual sophist fuckheads like you for many years, often while studying economics and finance at University, and I have no desire to do it any longer. Please do not address me again.
Drama queen. . . . Resorting to childish name-calling so soon. And I don't believe for one minute that you've studied economics at a university, you are just saying that because I indicated in my posts that I have. No offense, but I don't believe you. In nearly all cases someone who has studied economics will use a certain language that reveals his training, like in all professions.

Next time, be better prepared to back up your claims. Especially the one about Peter and Paul being secret Judaist agents, there's no proof at all of that one. But I am not being hostile toward you, and there is no need for you to be hostile either. Just accept that people won't always agree with you right off the bat in an internet forum, especially not if it is a WN forum.



Or a Marxist forum. Boy, do those guys hate each other. "The worst insults we reserve for ourselves," as one Marxist author put it.

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jews created christianity. Lending at interest is usury. catholic church is a jew possession. What do they do with their money? Good works or hoarding? Is that an example of jew or christian?
judaism is far older than christianity. christianity is a compilation. You seriously think saul "saw the light"? His coup was realizing what a great tool religion could be. TO ENSLAVE THE jews ENEMIES. It is in the way now. That's why they are actively trying to dismantle it. See: golum.
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